A lot of PC gamers over-exagerate the level of graphics in many pc games

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

you know PC has won when the main debate here is that pc is just "moderatly better" instead of "vastly better"

:lol::lol:

VanDammFan

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

you know PC has won when the main debate here is that pc is just "moderatly better" instead of "vastly better"

:lol::lol:

NanosuitLover

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

VanDammFan

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

I don't think you read what Nanosuitlover just wrote. MANY of those things he listed a console cannot not do. Don't know how you got "the things you list are what consoles do just fine"....

The only game that looked better then the best PS3 exclusive was crysis, a corridor fps with and great phsyics and barely any enenies on screen.

If this game is runing on a PC that has 4x the Ram on the PS3, a much better and faster GPU, and a more powerfull CPU then the Cell ( I doubt it).

Then pc gamers must really have low standards. Better graphics don't make for a better game. It's all about gameplay and that is where PC game fail hard.

PC games need a new way to play games k/M is an abysmal way to try to play shooters.

ratchet_usa

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

VanDammFan

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

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[QUOTE="NanosuitLover"]

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

mitu123

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

VanDammFan

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

No they don't do those! Where do you ppl get your information? Consoles don't even have 1080p, the games all the best looking console games render in 720p or less and stretched to higher resolutions, only call of duty runs in 60fps, and consoles do not have DX11 grade features and do not use Full screen Anti-Aliasing.The ignorance you show is astounding. Don't try to downplay the PC because you don't like it, stop being a liar in denile.

Yeah. I've played STALKER on max and it still looks awful.

Even with mods it isn't the greatest thing out there. But that GTA4 Ienhancer mod is crazy

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[QUOTE="NanosuitLover"]

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

NanosuitLover

The things you list are what consoles do just fine. Must be fine enough as it dont complain. As for being "bias"...I am bias when it comes to games. They are to be played on GAMING CONSOLES..

No they don't do those! Where do you ppl get your information? Consoles don't even have 1080p, the games all the best looking console games render in 720p or less and stretched to higher resolutions, only call of duty runs in 60fps, and consoles do not have DX11 grade features and do not use Full screen Anti-Aliasing.The ignorance you show is astounding. Don't try to downplay the PC because you don't like it, stop being a liar in denile.

So lets say I played your wonderful pc game "of your choice"..AND I play a console game of my choice..AND I still say, basically they are on par with one another..Im wrong,crazy,blind? OR just a fanboy?..SURE pc can do those things, but consoles do their thing as well, and they do it just fine. Ive played pc games JUST TO SEE THE WOW people find in them. I was NOT WOWED by anything. SO that must mean something right?

This can go on and on until we are old dead men im sure...What will we have accomplished? NOTHING except lost time. You like your pc games maxed out I like my console games on medium setting..

Lets put it this way. Currently the only game in my opinion that is completely in another level than the console and you could say a generation is Crysis. Now with that being said theoretically the current PCs are generation(s) ahead of the console. Its all up to developers to take advantage of that hardware and go that extra step to make the game they are developing that much farther ahead. The problem is it takes time and they have to learn the hardware and what the limitations are, not only that another thing that no one really has unlimited access to is money. The PC obviously has better graphics, but at the end of the day if they have current gen graphics thats all that is necessary at the moment.

More like a lot of console gamers overexagerate the level of graphics in many console games. I still recall the "Uncharted 2 looks better than Crysis" threads that popped up in late 2009.

Sure, not every PC game released is a graphic powerhouse. Tweak a pair of settings and the difference gives you the shivers. Just look at those GTA4 screenshots and compare them with the console version - think that this can be done with virtually every game.

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[QUOTE="NanosuitLover"]

Killzone? Lolfail. Nothing special there, highly scripted AI in small linear levels with only one or two designated flanking roues. OOOOOOOOHHH I'm impressed!! Ever hear of ARMA 2? Every RTS game? They demonstrate better AI.

NanosuitLover

In any case to call Killzone AI bad is simply laughable. They aren't scripted at all. No battle plays out the same way.

Forget it, you are covered in a viel of ignorance. Really? Battles are VASTLY different each time? WOW you are a fool. And how is the RTS argument invalid? I just listed PC Games that have better AI so of course your gonna invalidate it with "Oh thats not fair, I'm gonna cry your a meany!". So its a game genre that requires good ai, it still proves PC Games have better AI. Does Killzone's AI engage in infantry, battles AND drive all manner of military land, sea, and air vehicles all in a completely open world 225 square kilometer map like in ARMA2? No. Get over it, if you think a six year old CPU in a console has nearly equal AI processing capability to a 2011 i7 2600k or AMD equivalent, I can't help you, the education system has already failed you.

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

The only game that looked better then the best PS3 exclusive was crysis, a corridor fps with and great phsyics and barely any enenies on screen.

If this game is runing on a PC that has 4x the Ram on the PS3, a much better and faster GPU, and a more powerfull CPU then the Cell ( I doubt it).

Then pc gamers must really have low standards. Better graphics don't make for a better game. It's all about gameplay and that is where PC game fail hard.

PC games need a new way to play games k/M is an abysmal way to try to play shooters.

Brainkiller05

PC games are miles ahead, the only people who disagree are astonishingly enough... console gamers, who haven't experienced PC gaming's potential. Put simply PC games are running in twice the resolution at twice the frame rate with better textures, draw distance and anti-aliasing, in other words; there's nothing to debate here.

Being able to render games in 1080p (not stretched 720p like on yawnsoles) with higher res textures and run at a constant 60fps instead of mostly 30 enough to justify that its a generation ahead? Superior lighting, shaders, and physics is another generation. So 2 generations aheadm, not anymore than that though.

NanosuitLover

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

you know PC has won when the main debate here is that pc is just "moderatly better" instead of "vastly better"

:lol::lol:

NanosuitLover

OH I was thinking more along the lines of "The truth has finally been spoken"..Now if PC gamers would just admit it we can move on..All be friends and live happily together..

Just admit what? That PC is only "slightly better"? Let me give you a thought excersise to prove your bias. Imagine a new console comes out next month, it can go over 1080p resolutions, capable of 60fps on the majority of games, have advanced dx11 equivalent rendering and effects like shadows, particles, and shaders, as well much higher res textures, high texture filtering and AA (jagged edge smoothing for the tech illiterate) and advanced physics, along with more in depth games with larger scale. You would be like "Oh my god! This is the NEXT GENERATION of consoles". Well, PC does all those things I just listed, yet you refuse to give it credit because its not a "console" per say, its bias, plain and simple.

More like a lot of console gamers overexagerate the level of graphics in many console games. I still recall the "Uncharted 2 looks better than Crysis" threads that popped up in late 2009.

Sure, not every PC game released is a graphic powerhouse. Tweak a pair of settings and the difference gives you the shivers. Just look at those GTA4 screenshots and compare them with the console version - think that this can be done with virtually every game.

Mograine

Most games cant be modded to give such a massive increase in graphic fidelity such as that demonstrated by gta 4......dom2000

Perhaps. It doesn't change the fact that most games CAN be modded to give increases even if not massive.

It's not an "overexageration". More like damage control from the other side.