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#1 AlieNick
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Acclaim boss David Perry

"Because of the cost of making the PlayStation 3 and because they sold it at a loss, Sony basically has pretty much no chance of making money on the PS3, because it's lost more money than they made during the entire peak of the PlayStation 2 - it's not going to happen again for Sony," said Perry during his GCDC keynote speech yesterday.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=218719

We all knew PS3 was a disaster, now devs are saying it too.

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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lmao Acclaim flopped a long time ago
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#3 Czenkus
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Everyone thinks what they want. Yes ps3 has lost money, does that take away from the fact its a great console for you as a gamer ? no. I enjoy my ps3, my 360 and sometimes my wii. This only matters if sony decides to pull the plug .. which wont happen. Though it is scary to have negative vibes out there, when debating wheter or not to publish for the ps3 as a 3rd party dev.
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Acclaim boss David Perry

"Because of the cost of making the PlayStation 3 and because they sold it at a loss, Sony basically has pretty much no chance of making money on the PS3, because it's lost more money than they made during the entire peak of the PlayStation 2 - it's not going to happen again for Sony," said Perry during his GCDC keynote speech yesterday.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=218719

We all knew PS3 was a disaster, now devs are saying it too.

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Someone's opinion that the PS3 is not going to be as successful as the PS2 means it's a flop?

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#5 GreyFoXX4
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Think a dev is worried about Sony losing money when there is bascially 15million users out there? And what has Acclaim done for me lately lol? Sony sold me a great machine with some great games coming to it at a loss to themselves :) Maybe some devs should look into how to make great games before commenting on someone else's business descion, that would be wise for them to worry about.

P.S. Why is it Eurogamer always bad mouths the ps3. And when was the last board meeting of Sony was David Perry invited to to know anything about Sony's plans and their finicial status lol. One more oppionionate useless threads.

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#6 killerfist
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ACCLAIM??

damn haven't heard anything about them since....Turok: Rage Wars lmao

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#7 carljohnson3456
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The PS3 isnt a flop, it's just losing Sony money. It's selling fine, especially considering it's price. Besides, I dont think Sony was counting so much on making money off of the PS3 (selling it at a 200 dollar loss at the beginning of this gen) but rather that they were counting on making money off of Blu Ray winning the format war. We'll see how that pans out for them.

But anyway, the PS3 is still a precious tool for Sony. There are lots of ways for them to make money off of the system to help recover costs, like the downloadable movie/tv show thing they have now. Not to mention when Home hits they will probably charge for micro transactions and have ads posted all over the place to help recover.

Yeah, they've lost alot, but the Playstation brand is too powerful for Sony to let go or whatever. It's a tool that helped them when the format war against a cheaper competitor, HDDVD. Not too many companies could come out a little later than HDDVD, with higher costs and still win the format war. I think Sony will keep the Playstation brand around as long as they can.

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#8 Zenkuso
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David Perry is still making games?

Jesus I thought he retired (or went to management), haven't heard about him since the good ole earthworm jim days.

Sony won't care about the loss, they'll make it up other ways unlike acclaim they don't just relay on there playstation for profits.

The startup costs for the 360 and PS3 are generally the same as well(only a few thousand dollars difference), so he must be talking about the extended dev time required to make a PS3 title to increase costs, tech licenses they have to pay for no matter what they develop on so he can't pull that out his butt. Personally he's probably just enjoying the relative ease when compared to the PS3 to make games for but then again who wouldn't, to say a consoles failed on his basis of opinion = stupid quite frankly.

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#9 Czenkus
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The PS3 isnt a flop, it's just losing Sony money. It's selling fine, especially considering it's price. Besides, I dont think Sony was counting so much on making money off of the PS3 (selling it at a 200 dollar loss at the beginning of this gen) but rather that they were counting on making money off of Blu Ray winning the format war. We'll see how that pans out for them.

But anyway, the PS3 is still a precious tool for Sony. There are lots of ways for them to make money off of the system to help recover costs, like the downloadable movie/tv show thing they have now. Not to mention when Home hits they will probably charge for micro transactions and have ads posted all over the place to help recover.

Yeah, they've lost alot, but the Playstation brand is too powerful for Sony to let go or whatever. It's a tool that helped them when the format war against a cheaper competitor, HDDVD. Not too many companies could come out a little later than HDDVD, with higher costs and still win the format war. I think Sony will keep the Playstation brand around as long as they can.

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I just think, that sony will become stronger next gen, based on seeing the other side of the pond, as Xbox did last gen, so if joe smoe from accalaim acts up.. meh shrug it off.
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#10 omgimba
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Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

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#11 godofwar2610
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Acclaim did't say Ps3 is a flop it just said that it's not gonna make a profit this generation which is kind of stupid since the ps3 hasnt even been out for 2 years. But i can admit its not going as well as ps2 was selling but its really starting to pick up especially with the bluray victory and MGS4:D.
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#12 Czenkus
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Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

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To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.
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#13 AlieNick
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This is a scientifically proven fact that can't be disputed.

PS3 = flop

You can spin it like George Bush or Gordon Brown as much as you want, but the facts always rise above spin and you just end up back where you started.

PS3 = flop
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#14 KhanhAgE
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Wait.

Isn't Acclaim dead?

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#15 Miss_Wacy
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acclaim still have a mouth huh? bout time they brought turok 1 and 2 to the virtual console
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#16 carljohnson3456
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And since everyone is stating that Acclaim is dead... I'm pretty sure the last Acclaim game I bought was WWF (not WWE) Warzone on the PS1. Man that game was awesome. Stone Cold Steve Austin FTW! Right, right, circle for the Stunner! :lol:
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[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

Czenkus

To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.

The format was meaningless look at the pathetic Blu-ray numbers. Itune movies outsold Blu-ray thus proving digital download will inevitably be the next step.

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#18 Czenkus
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[QUOTE="Czenkus"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

Khansoul

To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.

The format was meaningless look at the pathetic Blu-ray numbers. Itune movies outsold Blu-ray thus proving digital download will inevitably be the next step.

Very good point.
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#19 yellerbelly
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Maybe when Apple release the I-TV.

I think most people would rather watch movies on their TV rather than on their PC. I know I would.

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#20 Bubblehash
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lmao Acclaim flopped a long time agoSolidGame_basic
:lol::lol: Agreed.
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#21 MikeE21286
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:lol: Acclaim....I'm sorry, but this response is totally valid for whenever Acclaim says anything.
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#22 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Czenkus"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

Khansoul

To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.

The format was meaningless look at the pathetic Blu-ray numbers. Itune movies outsold Blu-ray thus proving digital download will inevitably be the next step.

So then everyone can stop claiming that the PS3 is selling well for "teh Blu Ray player onlyz!!!"

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[QUOTE="Khansoul"][QUOTE="Czenkus"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

Czenkus

To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.

The format was meaningless look at the pathetic Blu-ray numbers. Itune movies outsold Blu-ray thus proving digital download will inevitably be the next step.

Very good point.

Either that or CHEAPER movies are the next step. Spending anywhere from $16-35 for a single feature length film on blu-ray is just ridiculous, especially considering you can find used DVDs for under $10 easily, and they're usually $5 or less (if you're shopping Amazon). The sad part is that most the blu rays don't even take advantage of the extra space, aside from the hi-def version of the flicks. Some blu-rays even have LESS bonus features than their DVD counterparts. Personally, it's these reasons why I haven't purchased a single blu-ray movie yet.

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#24 primateface
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acclaim used to be a good company....where the hell have they been though what games have they even made this generation? lol i thought they went out of business
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#25 primateface
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lol acclaim did go out of business
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And since everyone is stating that Acclaim is dead... I'm pretty sure the last Acclaim game I bought was WWF (not WWE) Warzone on the PS1. Man that game was awesome. Stone Cold Steve Austin FTW! Right, right, circle for the Stunner! :lol:carljohnson3456

:lol: it was so horrible, bad memories.

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#27 Czenkus
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]And since everyone is stating that Acclaim is dead... I'm pretty sure the last Acclaim game I bought was WWF (not WWE) Warzone on the PS1. Man that game was awesome. Stone Cold Steve Austin FTW! Right, right, circle for the Stunner! :lol:HAZE-Unit

:lol: it was so horrible, bad memories.

I actually liked that game hahaha, and I hate wrestling. ooo shall I make Haze comment here to back up my only wrestling game I ever liked!? hehe j/k
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#28 SolidGame_basic
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WWF Warzone? How about Attitude? You could pretty much just dominate with the chair.
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#29 primateface
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That's why all the new turok games suck pretty much though they arent made by acclaim the original developers only the name exist still Iguana Entertainment is actually the developers...i think was acclaim development studio both are dead.

That boss is not a good boss if he let his company die..that's sad a bunch of good development studios died....even data east is dead they made some good games back in the day also.

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#30 ShamrockRovers
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Wait.

Isn't Acclaim dead?

KhanhAgE

Thats what I thought:|

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So... success means making the most profit; i.e. putting out 8 year old hardware and charging $250 for it? Or charging exhorbitant prices for proprietary accessories like hard drives and wi-fi?

Sony sold their hardware to us at a loss. That means, as consumers, we get more features for the money. I respect that.

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#33 primateface
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oops midway made nba jam...i knew it was some company like that
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#34 primateface
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damn i knew i was right....midway made arcade editions of nbajam but iguana entertainment actually did the console editions
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#35 AzatiS
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acclaim is a flop company years now , and David perry souldnt talk about flops.... Very flop thing to say imo...

Btw , i agree that PS3 made Sony to lose money , so the RRoD of X360 for MS. Does it matter in the end? NO ,why? Because simply great games coming , one after the other. Is not that any of this giants gonan die because of some loses... Great David.

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#36 primateface
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One of the biggest letdowns data east going out of business come the F on they made double dragon man
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#37 ToScA-
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So... success means making the most profit;

Itinerant_Voice

In this, and most business...I'd say so yes.

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#38 darthogre
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If that's the case X360 = flop as well......it's never going to make it's money back because they too sold it for a loss and if you include all the RRoD costs (plus other defective items) it probably has lost more than the PS3. The Xbox brand has flopped the past 8 years.....they are billions in the hole.
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#39 primateface
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Dude i remember going to ames....i dunno most people here probley too young to remember that place was department store kinda like wal-mart but not as big...kinda like roses? but going there and playing double dragon in the arcade....i remember having so much fun playing super double dragon on snes that game had me piss in my pants laughing so hard when i was a kid playing that crap 2 players with my brother...sucks all the good stuffs gotta die.
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#40 eloyc
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We all knew PS3 was a disaster, now devs are saying it too.

AlieNick

Ok, go and say that to all PS3 owners that are ENJOYING their console. :roll:

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#41 agentzero23
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Wait.

Isn't Acclaim dead?

KhanhAgE

What they must be zombies now :(

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#42 sam280992
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Who's Acclaim?
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lmao Acclaim flopped a long time agoSolidGame_basic

Lol true that

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#44 3picuri3
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lmao Acclaim flopped a long time agoSolidGame_basic

which means they know something about flopping. totally agree with everything he said.

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Who's Acclaim?sam280992
Winnar!!
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[QUOTE="Czenkus"][QUOTE="Khansoul"][QUOTE="Czenkus"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Cause the PS3 didnt win them the Format war... That isn't worth anything for Sony.... Right...

Acclaim fails at intelligence.

plagueseason

To be fair, there are plenty of blu ray players that dont have PS3 on the box.

The format was meaningless look at the pathetic Blu-ray numbers. Itune movies outsold Blu-ray thus proving digital download will inevitably be the next step.

Very good point.

Either that or CHEAPER movies are the next step. Spending anywhere from $16-35 for a single feature length film on blu-ray is just ridiculous, especially considering you can find used DVDs for under $10 easily, and they're usually $5 or less (if you're shopping Amazon). The sad part is that most the blu rays don't even take advantage of the extra space, aside from the hi-def version of the flicks. Some blu-rays even have LESS bonus features than their DVD counterparts. Personally, it's these reasons why I haven't purchased a single blu-ray movie yet.

lol iunes movies sure if you like watching it on a 2 inch screen. blu-ray being the price it is reached 2% of movies sales just in 2 years. 2% was because the ps 3 had it in the machine. think about the % hdtv are in house holds that means the people that have hdtv are watch ing blu-ray movies you really think once hdtv becomes say 50% in house holds they will be watching itune movies. ya ok. hdtv sales are rising every day = blu-ray movies sales rising as well. dvd was 30 bucks a movie did that stop it to become a the standard movie sales when vhs was 5 bucks a movie as well.

vhs was 80 bucks a movie when it came out if you remember did that stop it from being 5 bucks in a few years later.

sony lose in the gaming division was not only a loss for that it also a loss for sony in the movie industry

once the stand alone blu-ray players becomes say 100 to 200 bucks price range = more ps3,hdtv's,blu-ray movies, ect. sales.

i like you to download a hd movie and see how long it takes before you can watch your movie.

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#47 trasherhead
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ukiiiii...

lets see, the old Acclaim made like 5 good games in almost 20 years.
The new Acclaim makes free online mmorpgs.
Tell me again why I should consider listening to this guy?

And as far as I know they arn't selling it at a loss any more. Sure they won't be making much profit in the end but they will break even. MS still hasn't made back their5 billion$ loss from the last xbox and its no more then half a year ago since they startet breaking even with the 360.

The only ones that realy make money in the gameing bizz is Nintendo and the only reason for that is because they make cheap, low tech consoles.

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#48 kyacat
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Didn't Acclaim make that crappy Olsen twin driving game?

please PS3 not a flop or a disaster

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#49 beast667
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:lol:, when's the last time acclaim made a good game?