Achievement SO UNDERRATED

When I first got my Xbox 360 back about a year ago, I thought that the achivement points was such a gimmick. I thought to myself it was stupid for a person to play a game just to get achievement points and cared for it so much. I wasn't really into it that much. But about 2 months ago I got the Wii and started playing Zelda and Monkey Ball. I noticed that I felt NO sastifaction upon completing the game. Don't get me wrong, Zelda was a great game, but I didn't have that feeling I did like I when I got my 100 pistol kill in Gears of War or Defeating the blacklist in Need for Speed on my Xbox 360. It just felt really awesome to have that little block pop up saying "Achievement Unlocked". I really am glad that Ps3 is hoping on and doing that trophy idea and I hope the Wii does something like that too.hoankiemdinh

Yeah they are awesome, I fgound myself today trying to survive 60 secs in Geometry wars evolved  :@ I suck at that game but it's awesome.

Yes they are. There so addictive. some innovation is always good. But i'm stuck at 5381 :cry:

I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

Perhaps if a fraction of these achievments translated over to MS Points, they would be worth bragging about. But as it stands, theyre worthless.

I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.Aljosa23

I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

You are right.  You don't understand acievment points.

You do not only get them for completing the game, but you can earn them for completing the game in interesting ways, doing interesting things, or playing the game in a way that you usually wouldn't. For example, in Call of Duty 3 you achievements like this:

-Blow up five Nazis with one gernade

-Complete an entire level using only melee attacks.

-Complete a level using only German weapons

Etc. And there are dozens more cool ones like those.  Every good game has achievements like this and more.  They give you a reason to play the game over in a non-standard way, or you might even earn one of these by accident, which feels rewarding. You throw a beautiful grenaded and Nazi's go flying everywhere, and BAM!  Achievement earned!

Not only do they give you fun rewards for playing in new and different ways (extending replay value) but you have a permanent online record of doing these tasks.  Someone doesn't believe you beat Gears on "Insane?"  They can go online and you have an achievement that proves it.

Achievmnets rock.  The total Gamerscore is only a small part of it.

Playing for achievements is a pathetic waste of time. Believe me, I know.Koalakommander

I agree. 

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.FrenziedRaldo24

Perhaps if a fraction of these achievments translated over to MS Points, they would be worth bragging about. But as it stands, theyre worthless.

 I love Gamerpoints, sure it doesn't really make the game better but it's always nice to get that little something extra that all your friends (and random people on Xbox live) can see.

I think Gamerpoints are Great, especially the ones that push you that little bit into doing thing you probably wouldn't have the motivation to do otherwise thus adding to the replay value.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.Mystikef

You are right. You don't understand acievment points.

You do not only get them for completing the game, but you can earn them for completing the game in interesting ways, doing interesting things, or playing the game in a way that you usually wouldn't. For example, in Call of Duty 3 you achievements like this:

-Blow up five Nazis with one gernade

-Complete an entire level using only melee attacks.

-Complete a level using only German weapons

Etc. And there are dozens more cool ones like those. Every good game has achievements like this and more. They give you a reason to play the game over in a non-standard way, or you might even earn one of these by accident, which feels rewarding. You throw a beautiful grenaded and Nazi's go flying everywhere, and BAM! Achievement earned!

Not only do they give you fun rewards for playing in new and different ways (extending replay value) but you have a permanent online record of doing these tasks. Someone doesn't believe you beat Gears on "Insane?" They can go online and you have an achievement that proves it.

Achievmnets rock. The total Gamerscore is only a small part of it.

Hm, so you play to find out who sits at their Xbox360 the longest based on the score you play your games for. I'll stick to playing for fun. 

Achievements are for nerds who want to show their e-coolness. They add nothing new to a game, and are useless.batistafan99

I like your style 

What is the use of playing the same exact game 3 times to get 100 achievement points?drsports1980

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about. 

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.FrenziedRaldo24

Perhaps if a fraction of these achievments translated over to MS Points, they would be worth bragging about. But as it stands, theyre worthless.

It just shows the stuff you achieved in certain games, its a way to show your friends what you have done in other games

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about.

as9332

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing. 

[QUOTE="Mystikef"]

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.Koalakommander

You are right. You don't understand acievment points.

You do not only get them for completing the game, but you can earn them for completing the game in interesting ways, doing interesting things, or playing the game in a way that you usually wouldn't. For example, in Call of Duty 3 you achievements like this:

-Blow up five Nazis with one gernade

-Complete an entire level using only melee attacks.

-Complete a level using only German weapons

Etc. And there are dozens more cool ones like those. Every good game has achievements like this and more. They give you a reason to play the game over in a non-standard way, or you might even earn one of these by accident, which feels rewarding. You throw a beautiful grenaded and Nazi's go flying everywhere, and BAM! Achievement earned!

Not only do they give you fun rewards for playing in new and different ways (extending replay value) but you have a permanent online record of doing these tasks. Someone doesn't believe you beat Gears on "Insane?" They can go online and you have an achievement that proves it.

Achievmnets rock. The total Gamerscore is only a small part of it.

Hm, so you play to find out who sits at their Xbox360 the longest based on the score you play your games for. I'll stick to playing for fun. 

 getting achievements is fun, its not some sort of competition

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

thats like asking whats the poitn of playing ANY game multiple times for no reason at all. :| 

I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

it actually does.

I've gone back to game to do certain things just to get achievements.

Like hitman and splinter cell, go back and do the missions perfectly. etc 

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Mystikef"]

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.Mystikef

You are right. You don't understand acievment points.

You do not only get them for completing the game, but you can earn them for completing the game in interesting ways, doing interesting things, or playing the game in a way that you usually wouldn't. For example, in Call of Duty 3 you achievements like this:

-Blow up five Nazis with one gernade

-Complete an entire level using only melee attacks.

-Complete a level using only German weapons

Etc. And there are dozens more cool ones like those. Every good game has achievements like this and more. They give you a reason to play the game over in a non-standard way, or you might even earn one of these by accident, which feels rewarding. You throw a beautiful grenaded and Nazi's go flying everywhere, and BAM! Achievement earned!

Not only do they give you fun rewards for playing in new and different ways (extending replay value) but you have a permanent online record of doing these tasks. Someone doesn't believe you beat Gears on "Insane?" They can go online and you have an achievement that proves it.

Achievmnets rock. The total Gamerscore is only a small part of it.

Hm, so you play to find out who sits at their Xbox360 the longest based on the score you play your games for. I'll stick to playing for fun.

Don't be an idiot just to be negative. My whole post was about how achievements are fun and can encourage you to play games in different ways and try for new goals BESIDES just finishing the game. The online record was only two sentences of my post.

Unlockable content and rewards is up to the game developers, not your Xbox360. I have a 360 and found achievments to be a complete waste of time. If I don't want to play GeOW, what does 200 headstomps = 10 points matter to me? 

Achievements are for nerds who want to show their e-coolness. They add nothing new to a game, and are useless.batistafan99

[QUOTE="as9332"]

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about.

Koalakommander

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing.

I could care a less about the points. It just gives an intresting and different ways for playing a game. In a way it adds reply value to a game. For example, you would never sit down one day and say; let me try to score 48 points in the first quater while playing NCAA football. But acheivement motivate you to play the differently. And again if you dont care about playing the game differently you DONT have to.

And like I said before.. I am not one of those people who will play bad games just to get the achievements. 

[QUOTE="Mystikef"]

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.Koalakommander

You are right. You don't understand acievment points.

You do not only get them for completing the game, but you can earn them for completing the game in interesting ways, doing interesting things, or playing the game in a way that you usually wouldn't. For example, in Call of Duty 3 you achievements like this:

-Blow up five Nazis with one gernade

-Complete an entire level using only melee attacks.

-Complete a level using only German weapons

Etc. And there are dozens more cool ones like those. Every good game has achievements like this and more. They give you a reason to play the game over in a non-standard way, or you might even earn one of these by accident, which feels rewarding. You throw a beautiful grenaded and Nazi's go flying everywhere, and BAM! Achievement earned!

Not only do they give you fun rewards for playing in new and different ways (extending replay value) but you have a permanent online record of doing these tasks. Someone doesn't believe you beat Gears on "Insane?" They can go online and you have an achievement that proves it.

Achievmnets rock. The total Gamerscore is only a small part of it.

Hm, so you play to find out who sits at their Xbox360 the longest based on the score you play your games for. I'll stick to playing for fun.

[QUOTE="as9332"]

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about.

Koalakommander

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing. 

You just don't get it. It gives you a reason to try new things and play games in new ways.  YEs...  it is only "useless points" and a popo-up box.  But it is actually fun to try new things especially when the game tells you when you succeed. I think it is awesome that they went for that achiemement like that.  They got to enjoy the game in a way they never would have tried otherwise.  It's called REPLAY VALUE and achievement points have done more for replay value than any other invention this side of online multiplayer.  You haters will never get it.  It is not about bragging...  it is about getting more fun out of a game. Isn't that what every gamer would want?  More fun?

you know whats funny, people say achievements are useless points, how is playing a game to gain and achievement any more "useless" than playing a game PERIOD?

gaming on the whole is useless, dont make it seem like achievement points make playing a game useless :lol:  

Achievements are just a metagame that falls under the same basic principle inherentin almost every bit of (good) game design: Making the player feel rewarded for the time and effort he put into the game.

Thats pretty much what every game does. The sense of progression, accomplishment, or closure are the rewards for playing and beating through a game. Achievements just add on more to that.

But im not a particularly big fan of them, probably because i understand why it works so well. Any game i enjoy should be enjoyable on its own merits. I shouldnt need extra incentives to replay it. 

Truth be told I wouldnt be playing games as long like Dead rising without achievements. It gave me a reason to play more...even after I beat the game....Achievements basically gives the game more replay value.killaj2786

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="as9332"]

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about.

Mystikef

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing.

You just don't get it. It gives you a reason to try new things and play games in new ways. YEs... it is only "useless points" and a popo-up box. But it is actually fun to try new things especially when the game tells you when you succeed. I think it is awesome that they went for that achiemement like that. They got to enjoy the game in a way they never would have tried otherwise. It's called REPLAY VALUE and achievement points have done more for replay value than any other invention this side of online multiplayer. You haters will never get it. It is not about bragging... it is about getting more fun out of a game. Isn't that what every gamer would want? More fun?

I agree man.. people always assume that points give them bragging rights.

I've never met anyone in person or over XBL who goes around "bragging" about how many points they have.  

what the hell is wrong with some of the people in this thread? I guess playing video games is useless too?

I don't need achievement points to motivate me to play a game on a harder difficulty. If the game is fun, then I will play it through again on a harder difficulty. Achievement points add nothingbatistafan99

what the hell is wrong with some of the people in this thread? I guess playing video games is useless too?

-Sora

Its so stupid when people say "achievements are useless" because truth be told, gaming on the whole is useless.  

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]I don't understand the point of achievements. It is just giving you points for winning the game. Doesn't really make the game better, and doesn't increase the games length. Most achievements are annyoing, and almost impossible to get. I must be the only one who thinks this because almost everyone else is screaming that achievements are godly.drsports1980

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing.

Koalakommander

[QUOTE="-Sora"]

what the hell is wrong with some of the people in this thread? I guess playing video games is useless too?

JPOBS

Its so stupid when people say "achievements are useless" because truth be told, gaming on the whole is useless.  

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]I don't need achievement points to motivate me to play a game on a harder difficulty. If the game is fun, then I will play it through again on a harder difficulty. Achievement points add nothingJPOBS

i would still play it, no matter if it had achievements or not. they don't add anything to the game, they are there for bragging rights. i've heard lots of people brag about their gamerscore over xbox live and on internet forums.

[QUOTE="as9332"]

They are pathetic if you are the kinda person who will buy shrek3 just so you can get achievements.

But heres where it gets good.. just earlier today I was playing Aeigs wings with some friends of mine... and there is an achievement for playing thorugh a level without firing and one for without getting hit.

Now this game has 4 player co-op.. so we are all making sure that one of us (whoever is going for the achievement) doesnt get hit. And beleiveit or not.. it was FUN.

Without having an achievement unlocked at the end of the level we would never have went out of our way to make the game in a different way.

That to me is what achievements all about.

Koalakommander

Shouldn't it be up to the game iteself to provide you with unlockable content instead of your Xbox giving you points that practically do nothing. 

 Achievements get a big meh from me.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="batistafan99"]I don't need achievement points to motivate me to play a game on a harder difficulty. If the game is fun, then I will play it through again on a harder difficulty. Achievement points add nothingbatistafan99

i would still play it, no matter if it had achievements or not. they don't add anything to the game, they are there for bragging rights. i've heard lots of people brag about their gamerscore over xbox live and on internet forums.