Activision CEO: Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry

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#1 MercenaryMafia
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http://kotaku.com/5832203/call-of-duty-makers-say-competitors-anti+call-of-duty-talk-harms-the-gaming-industry

The Irony! lol

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#2 DarkLink77
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Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

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#3 super600  Moderator
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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

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#4 FoolwithaLancer
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Is he still going by the Kindergarden rule of

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it"

It's business, get use to it.

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#5 The_Pacific
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I like how you're paraphrasing the quote. :roll:

Activisoin = Bad

EA = God/ The holy savior.

Next time read the entire article TC. This is what he ALSO said : "This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

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#6 DangerousLiquid
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Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DarkLink77

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

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#7 Wasdie  Moderator
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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

super600

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

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#8 0Hamburgher
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You really twisted around his words with the title :|
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#9 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

I remember that. That makes me hate Activsion even more.

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#10 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DangerousLiquid

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

People can have an opinion about something if they want. Nobody controls anyone's opinions.

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#11 magiciandude
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What are they going to do? Call the gaming industry police?

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#12 FoolwithaLancer
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DangerousLiquid

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

Its business, if youcan't handle bad talk about your game that will sell Millions no matter what you're doing it wrong.

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#13 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

Activision can't handle criticism, it seems.
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#14 turtlethetaffer
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It harms the industry because then devs will need to think of original ideas?!

OH THE HUMANITY!

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#15 lundy86_4
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He makes a good point, but people are entitled to have an opinion regarding their games. They're also entitled to express that opinion.

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He got his feelings hurt, that's cute.
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#17 Maroxad
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While I disagree with with that anti CoD talk harms the industry. I do however agree with this,

"This isn't politics, in order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie."

People are entitled to say what they want. And if they want to criticize CoD, then so be it.

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#18 Arach666
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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

That´s just sad and speaks volumes about activision.

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#19 DarkLink77
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It harms the industry because then devs will need to think of original ideas?!

OH THE HUMANITY!

turtlethetaffer
I lol'd. But this is Activivision. Original ideas are a no-no until they run every franchise they own into the ground.
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#20 UCF_Knight
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Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DarkLink77
Nailed it on the first post.
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#21 LustForSoul
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In the end they are both really greedy companies. Yes, EA too. This smack talk is stupid, they're not even remotely the same games. Quite the opposite of each other in terms of FPS games.

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#22 Sushiglutton
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That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.
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#23 eboyishere
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To be honest.. They both sound like **** like as if either EA or acti knows what is best for the industy.
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#25 DarkLink77
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That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.Sushiglutton
Well, he obviously wasn't going to call out EA. I mean, come on.
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#26 Sushiglutton
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I like how you're paraphrasing the quote. :roll:

Activisoin = Bad

EA = God/ The holy savior.

Next time read the entire article TC. This is what he ALSO said : "This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

The_Pacific
Ah, one more user who is capable of reading :)!
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#27 razgriz_101
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bwahahahahahahaha

pot calls the kettle black much.

THPS is a key example of harming a good franchise, much like they are doing with CoD now...jesus Kotick do you not learn much, oh wait your a CEO not a gamer my bad.

It hurts your wallet maybe but its good for us to voice our opinion bout your messiah of a product.

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#28 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.DarkLink77
Well, he obviously wasn't going to call out EA. I mean, come on.

He's calling out EA ofc but that's not the point. What TC and the article are falsely claiming is that he is saying that talking down COD specifically is bad for the industry (whover does it). That is NOT what he said, nor did he imply it.
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#29 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.Sushiglutton
Well, he obviously wasn't going to call out EA. I mean, come on.

He's calling out EA ofc but that's not the point. What TC and the article are falsely claiming is that he is saying that talking down COD specifically is bad for the industry (whover does it). That is NOT what he said, nor did he imply it.

It's basically what he meant, if only because Activision owns like one other franchise.
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#30 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

It harms the industry because then devs will need to think of original ideas?!

OH THE HUMANITY!

DarkLink77

I lol'd. But this is Activivision. Original ideas are a no-no until they run every franchise they own into the ground.

I was referring to the industry and devs as a whole, but yeah I know about Activision.

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#31 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

It harms the industry because then devs will need to think of original ideas?!

OH THE HUMANITY!

turtlethetaffer

I lol'd. But this is Activivision. Original ideas are a no-no until they run every franchise they own into the ground.

I was referring to the industry and devs as a whole, but yeah I know about Activision.

Unfortunately, both are true.
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#32 Steameffekt
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"... embrace change..." LOL what?! :lol:

Oh the irony.

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#33 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I lol'd. But this is Activivision. Original ideas are a no-no until they run every franchise they own into the ground.DarkLink77

I was referring to the industry and devs as a whole, but yeah I know about Activision.

Unfortunately, both are true.

I know at least other genres are still going strong. And even some FPS's still have original thoughts. (ie FEAR.)

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#34 SuperFlakeman
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That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.Sushiglutton

Yeah I don't like vocal minorities trying to change the world. Vote with your money and stfu.

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#35 santoron
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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

That's just... sad.

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#36 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, he obviously wasn't going to call out EA. I mean, come on.DarkLink77
He's calling out EA ofc but that's not the point. What TC and the article are falsely claiming is that he is saying that talking down COD specifically is bad for the industry (whover does it). That is NOT what he said, nor did he imply it.

It's basically what he meant, if only because Activision owns like one other franchise.

No it's not. He's speaking in general terms when he spoke about companies not "tearing each other apart", even though he ofc is directly inspired by what the EA boss said. But he didn't imply that saying bad things about COD in particular is worse than doing it about another game (which is what Kotaku's headline did). U are blinded by hate :)!

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#37 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]That is not what he said. He wasn't specifically saying that "Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry". What he said was that: "We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie." So he's speaking much more generaly (and he's correct ofc). I don't play COD, l but this witch-hunt is geting sligtly silly.SuperFlakeman

Yeah I don't like vocal minorities trying to change the world. Vote with your money and stfu.

I suppose u could call an EA boss a vocal minority... :|

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#38 HaloPimp978
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Wow they are a whole bunch of cry babies. Their fans bash BF3 so how come we can't bash COD, he needs to suck it up because people have opinions and they are going to express them.

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#39 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Everything he said was correct.

EA is showinglack of confidence in BF3 and desperation if they need to resort to fanboyish comments like "die CoD, die :cry: ".

Not that I blame them, they probably know that besides technical merits, MW3 is going to be superior in every way.

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#40 drinkerofjuice
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They kinda have point, even though they're partially trolling here :P

But seriously, gamers hate CoD like how Palestinians hate Israelis. The difference is that the Palestinians actually have a good reason behind their hate.

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#41 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DangerousLiquid

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

When CoD is the only thing being bought by the casual gamers, it does hurt the industry. That money could be going toward actual good games with some actual innovation. Instead, those casual gamers only know about Call of Duty so that's all they buy.
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#42 789shadow
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Aww, does Activision have their wittle feelings hurt?

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#43 AdolescentDon
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Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

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#44 turtlethetaffer
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Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

AdolescentDon

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

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#45 viper-kid
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EA needs to be more professional. Why did they need to bash Cod consistently at E3 2011? trying to please the BF fans?

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#46 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

turtlethetaffer
Your point

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

turtlethetaffer

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hate
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#47 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"] Your point[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

viper-kid

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hate

between 2 developers that do the exactly same game. Imagination fail.

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#48 bbkkristian
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I actually agree with him, gamers should stop bashing CoD and provide ways they can improve the game, instead of being mad that other companies are copying the multi-million dollar franchise.*raises flame shield (hylian shield)*

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#49 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"] Your point[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

viper-kid

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hate

Still has annual releases with little to no improvement over each sequel so your point? nothing to hate really i would be driven bonkers if my favourite music artist released a mediocre album every year, i think the same of SAW just let the franchise die for god sake or least tone back release schedules.

Yearly releases are actually not good for games like CoD, its understandable sports games get roster updates especially in football as so much can change in the space of ayear but FPS games do not need new iterations every year especially CoD its hardly changed at all.

Btw before you bring an arguement b-b-b-b-ut sports games dont change much i give you Fifa over the past 4-5 years its improved tenfold.

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#50 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

turtlethetaffer

Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hate

between 2 developers that do the exactly same game. Imagination fail.

Why change something that's perfect? the fans are fine with the gameplay and we will continue to support them.