Activision CEO: Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry

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#51 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

razgriz_101

Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hate

Still has annual releases with little to no improvement over each sequel so your point? nothing to hate really i would be driven bonkers if my favourite music artist released a mediocre album every year, i think the same of SAW just let the franchise die for god sake or least tone back release schedules.

Yearly releases are actually not good for games like CoD, its understandable sports games get roster updates especially in football as so much can change in the space of ayear but FPS games do not need new iterations every year especially CoD its hardly changed at all.

Btw before you bring an arguement b-b-b-b-ut sports games dont change much i give you Fifa over the past 4-5 years its improved tenfold.

Music =/= Gaming. Yet Battlefield is allowed yearly releases right? Fifa has improved in 5 years and Cod has improved in 5 years becoming the current populist game so whats your point? Also IW and Treyarch have different time periods and setting so they do change the weapons and equipment. BF done the same with different time periods and BF fans call them different because of different vehicles and weapons, so why not cod?
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#52 mikeyMKII
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This article made my day.

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#54 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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Why can't we just get along? There is enough room for both franchises.

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#55 Valiant_Rebel
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I don't see how talking bad about Call of Duty, or any game in general will harm the industry. Even though some people tend to make it sound very personal, it doesn't mean the industry is in danger. They are still opinions, be it good or bad. There has been anti-CoD talk even before MW2 came out. If it hasn't hurt it then, it won't hurt it now.

If you want to talk about CoD's "influence" on the games, they mostly only influence first person shooters. Of course, that all depends on the developer's decision to let CoD guide their pre-production/full production cycle. Every other genre seems to be doing well without its influence.

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#56 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DragonfireXZ95

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

When CoD is the only thing being bought by the casual gamers, it does hurt the industry. That money could be going toward actual good games with some actual innovation. Instead, those casual gamers only know about Call of Duty so that's all they buy.

I'm not really a casual gamer and I play cod because I think it has the best co-op options. I think you're exaggerating a little bit. There are good reasons why some people enjoy it.
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#57 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]

I like how you're paraphrasing the quote. :roll:

Activisoin = Bad

EA = God/ The holy savior.

Next time read the entire article TC. This is what he ALSO said : "This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

exactly what i was goona quote.
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#58 flowernuts
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Activision harms the gaming industry.
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#59 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Honest answers here people. What good has embracing the CoD bandwagon actually done for the games industry? You know, other than make Activision the greediest company in existence?

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#60 ethanradd
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I like how you're paraphrasing the quote. :roll:

Activisoin = Bad

EA = God/ The holy savior.

Next time read the entire article TC. This is what he ALSO said : "This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

The_Pacific

...it's reached a point in System Wars where it doesnt matter what Activision does or says, people WILL find a way to twist words or to simply reply with the same old parrot song Acitivision is Eeevil (while EA are saints?) ...rehash (while others are masters of innovation?) ....wont buy the game (good for you?) ....same game! ...game for 13 year old kids ...noobs ...the true rehash is the same old comments everytime really, I still cant understand such a strong hate for the game, u'd think it was as bad as Big Rigs to hear them tell it

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#61 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DangerousLiquid

Their game harms it how? Just because millions of people prefer their games and not whatever you play? How is that harming? It helps the industry. It pulls in money.

Also, I agree with Activision, for once.

If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period.

it harms the gaming industry because COD is stopping it from being creatively driven to demand driven, it means good developers will have tunnel vision on what sells vs what delivers exception experiences. Look at mw3, its the same core as the original mw, not much has changed, the sp is largely a waste of time unless you have absolutely nothing better to do, and they remake the same online game with a minimal 12 maps. They should just have released 1 game and just keep building on it, adding more maps, instead we get 7 different standalone packages, all with different starting maps, the newer ones having some new maps and refreshing old ones. I think COD would be good if they just kept expanding on the MP and dropped the SP, and gave one of their dev's something better to do.
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#62 JohnF111
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Is he still going by the Kindergarden rule of

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it"

It's business, get use to it.

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I find it funny he mentions that it isn't politics, yet i see no difference, the opposition trying to bring down the big guy... EA saying BF3 will bring down CoD, it's exactly politics.
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#63 MercenaryMafia
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Some of you guys obviously didnt watch the video. He sounded like a wounded bird to me. Why can't he handle a little competiton?

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#64 turtlethetaffer
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Some of you guys obviously didnt watch the video. He sounded like a wonded bird to me. Why can't he handle a little competiton?

MercenaryMafia

I was literally about to say this, he needs to learn to take some criticism.

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#65 Gibsonsg527
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Its good to know that I am hurting Activisions feelings.

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"This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

Activision

It's a shame they can't follow their own advice, it's not like Activision isn't guilty of slinging some mud around either. "It's a innovation industry" Yup you guys sure have shown us that block-buster games are all about innovation! Not...remaking the same game with shiny new skins every year.

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#67 viper-kid
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Its good to know that I am hurting Activisions feelings.

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Their pockets aren't hurt so they don't care about hate
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#68 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="Gibsonsg527"]

Its good to know that I am hurting Activisions feelings.

viper-kid

Their pockets aren't hurt so they don't care about hate

He obviously cares otherwise this article/ thread would not be here.

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#69 el3m2tigre
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His tears.... they're so delicious.

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#70 Jynxzor
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Oh god I just watched the video he sounds like a kid who just got bullied, and he somehow pretends that other industries are some "Gentlemanly" afair. Movie makers sling as much mud as game developers.
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#71 kaealy
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Didn't Activision trash talk DICE and BF3 about their console versions of the game? If so, oh the irony of it all.

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#72 turtlethetaffer
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Didn't Activision trash talk DICE and BF3 about their console versions of the game? If so, oh the irony of it all.

kaealy

That wouldn't surprise me. This guy is a serious ass.

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#73 BlancoBX
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Because yearly re-hashes with no substantial improvements, and high priced DLC that should have been included in the original product are so good for the industry? Give me a break...

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#74 Lonelynight
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Yeah... no.
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#75 Birdy09
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Everything he said was correct.

EA is showinglack of confidence in BF3 and desperation if they need to resort to fanboyish comments like "die CoD, die :cry: ".

Not that I blame them, they probably know that besides technical merits, MW3 is going to be superior in every way.

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Im starting to think you just say the opposite to provoke people.
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#76 tomarlyn
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Having read the article and watched the clip, my respect for Activision has risen with that.
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#77 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Im starting to think you just say the opposite to provoke people.Birdy09
The opposite of what?
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#78 TheAcountantMan
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Eric Hirshberg should be the new CEO of AMD.
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#79 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Im starting to think you just say the opposite to provoke people.IronBass
The opposite of what?

of what other people are saying ?
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#80 carljohnson3456
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I like how you're paraphrasing the quote. :roll:

Activisoin = Bad

EA = God/ The holy savior.

Next time read the entire article TC. This is what he ALSO said : "This isn't politics," Hirshberg said, as he wrapped up an awards ceremony keynote at the Gamescom event in Cologne. "In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose. This is an entertainment industry, it's an innovation industry, and at best, it's an art form... We shouldn't be tearing each other apart, fighting for a larger slice of the pie. We should all be focused on trying to grow a bigger pie. If we as an industry act like there are a finite number of games in the world, then there will be." - :|

The_Pacific
Wow, that's kinda profound... but still, they're as guilty as anybody about trashing other games and what not.
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#81 thejakel11225
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LEAVE CALL OF DUTY ALONE :cry: ! LEAVE HER ALONE!

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#82 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

wow really.

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#83 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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of what other people are saying ? dkdk999
SW is built on opposite statements.
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#84 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

Looks like COD is turning into the next Halo... Success = Haters

turtlethetaffer

Except Halo doesn't get annual releases.

And it's actually good.

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#85 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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It harms the industry because then devs will need to think of original ideas?!

OH THE HUMANITY!

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#86 mirgamer
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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"] If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period .

That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read in System Wars.
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#88 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"] If you don't love COD, then simply never talk about it. Period .mirgamer
That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read in System Wars.

Haven't been here long have you?

DangerousLiquid, under one of his other accounts, once told me that if Twilight Princess had been an FPS with multiplayer, it would have been destroyed by CoD.

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#89 Ly_the_Fairy
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Your game harms the industry, bro. Suck it up.

DarkLink77

Their game doesn't harm the industry.

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#90 ShadowriverUB
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I say watch video, he not talking about Call of Duty but gaming industry and he is right, there no point of argueing with compatition and he acted smarter to not responce to EAs hate :p.... theu it wont change opinion of CoD in some people;p

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#91 ChubbyGuy40
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I agree ................this hate should be directed towards Battle Failed 3 what a joke of a game seriously

Golden_Boy187

So innovation and new ideas are bad. Every developer should be more like Activision who has recycled the same game, every year, getting worse every year, and refuse to make changes while depending on their mindless drone of casuals who are buying it.

Oh please. Battlefield 3 is on a whole new level that CoD will never be able to reach.

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#93 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

I agree ................this hate should be directed towards Battle Failed 3 what a joke of a game seriously

Golden_Boy187

So innovation and new ideas are bad. Every developer should be more like Activision who has recycled the same game, every year, getting worse every year, and refuse to make changes while depending on their mindless drone of casuals who are buying it.

Oh please. Battlefield 3 is on a whole new level that CoD will never be able to reach.

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#94 N30F3N1X
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Lol, Activision guy talking about the gaming industry while mentioning innovation. What a joke. Show him who's boss, Ricci :P

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Golden_Boy187

Sorry dude, he's right, and a facepalm pic isn't a counterargument ;)

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#96 el3m2tigre
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I agree ................this hate should be directed towards Battle Failed 3 what a joke of a game seriously

Golden_Boy187

But it's not. It's directed towards Call of Duty. The REAL joke here.

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#97 Golden_Boy187
Member since 2007 • 787 Posts

[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

So innovation and new ideas are bad. Every developer should be more like Activision who has recycled the same game, every year, getting worse every year, and refuse to make changes while depending on their mindless drone of casuals who are buying it.

Oh please. Battlefield 3 is on a whole new level that CoD will never be able to reach.

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Hate to break it to you Goldenboy but on these forums you're in the minority.

thank god these forums don't = the world

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#98 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

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Golden_Boy187

Hate to break it to you Goldenboy but on these forums you're in the minority.

thank god these forums don't = the world

Okay, as much as I repsect your liking of Zelda, CoD is nothing special. It's ok, but not some godly experience.

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#99 Iantheone
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Words hurt,guys. Hurt.
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#100 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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thank god these forums don't = the worldGolden_Boy187
This is true. That's why we're gonna see MW3 defeat BF3 when all is said and done ^_^