Activision CEO: Anti-Call of Duty Talk Harms the Gaming Industry

Golden_Boy187

So you have no counter-argument at all?

Guess it really is Modern Rehash 3 then.

[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]thank god these forums don't = the worldIronBass

Scores will belong to BF3. Sales will most likely belong to MW3.

Scores >>> sales.

Scores will belong to BF3. ChubbyGuy40

If that actually happen, the difference will be minimal, like previous entries of both series. You'll excuse me if I don't consider arguing over a minimal score difference.

Sales will most likely belong to MW3.Scores >>> salesChubbyGuy40

Millions of people enjoying a game more >>> a couple of reviewers enjoying the other (a bit) more : D

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

super600

In the IT industry, it's 1 or 0, you either float or go bust.

Innovation is a constant in the IT industry.

It looks like Activision thinks digital games = old school movie industry.

http://kotaku.com/5832203/call-of-duty-makers-say-competitors-anti+call-of-duty-talk-harms-the-gaming-industry

The Irony! lol

MercenaryMafia

Not gonna lie, the EA corporate fools constantly railing on CoD is incredibly childish. If you're gonna smack talk your competitor, be clever and subtle with it. Don't act like a jealous three year-old throwing a b****-fit. enterawesome

Activsion is not in the IT game e.g. Intel vs AMD, NVIDIA vs AMD, Microsoft vs Google, Oracle vs Google, Apple vs Google Android device manufactures, Intel vs ARM.

Their competitors talk so much crap about CoD because that's what they hear from gamers, and they want their potential consumers to think their company is on the same page as they are.

If Activision produced one game that I could stomach for more than 10 minutes, I would be simply amazed.

While in theory ""In order for one to win, the other doesn't have to lose", in reality games do have a limited audience, much of the CoD players aren't gonna pick up other games after getting MW3.

I don't think EA will achieve anything with their trash talk though, it just makes them look childish. But if they think it will help then go for it.

Actually, I agree with Activision on this. I can't remember the last time every other publisher and developer talked smack about one single game to try and beat it in sales. It's downright childish. Honestly, I hate Call of Duty. But ever since Battlefield 3 was announced, EA has taken this ridiculous stance of "Here's how we're going to beat CoD." And the only thing that goes through my mind is, "OK, STFU now."

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Between 2 developers so what's your point? haters got to hateviper-kid

Still has annual releases with little to no improvement over each sequel so your point? nothing to hate really i would be driven bonkers if my favourite music artist released a mediocre album every year, i think the same of SAW just let the franchise die for god sake or least tone back release schedules.

Yearly releases are actually not good for games like CoD, its understandable sports games get roster updates especially in football as so much can change in the space of ayear but FPS games do not need new iterations every year especially CoD its hardly changed at all.

Btw before you bring an arguement b-b-b-b-ut sports games dont change much i give you Fifa over the past 4-5 years its improved tenfold.

Cod has become worse from a CoD2/4 players point of view for many reasons, overbloated killstreak rewards,shoddy map desigsns and i could continue but for the sake of my fingers i wont bother writing an essay at this time in the morning.

Cleary you havent played battlefield its had more variation on time periods than CoD has (futuristic,historic,past) and i cant really think how a battlefield game has been released every single November over its life time either its been just around a year and a half since bfbc2 and when bf3 launches its a shocking (for a CoD fan) 1 and 3/4 years old.So essentially your correct bout yearly releases but least we dont get it rammed down our throats in the holiday season every year for the sales grab.

My point about music has a good point, look at how quickly GD were firing albums out in the 90's there was only bout a year between dookie and insomniac which is pretty tight for music and the rushed attitude shows through in the songwritign sometimes much like with CoD and its balance issues due to lack of any beta testing,map glitches which go un reported for ages etc.

CoD has become popular because of CoD4 but its been dwindling for a lot of the older fans, sure theres kiddy mc dipturd who's never played a shooting game but he moves on aswell.CoD is essentially fisher price my first shooter for the games industry popular but not all that substantial.

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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]Scores will belong to BF3. IronBass

If that actually happen, the difference will be minimal, like previous entries of both series. You'll excuse me if I don't consider arguing over a minimal score difference.

Sales will most likely belong to MW3.Scores >>> salesChubbyGuy40

Millions of people enjoying a game more >>> a couple of reviewers enjoying the other (a bit) more : D

More people enjoying it is not ">>>" less people enjoying it a bit more. With that logic Meyer and Rowling write better books than Dante and Virgil.

They should be thankful that they're not in Rebecca Black's shoes.

Thier whinning and moaning makes me want to hate on COD even more

So innovation and new ideas are bad.

ChubbyGuy40

There is nothing innovative about BF3 nor MW3. If you're looking for innovation and new ideas, look for elsewhere. Battlefield and Call of Duty are the best in what they do and it's only personal preference that tells which one is better game for you. Opinion. I'll be having lots of fun playing both. This fighting between these two camps is really stupid.

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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

finalfantasy94

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

wow really.

That makes me even hate the company more.They were actually blocking and filtering any dissent towards the COD franchise.

Thank God they are getting affected, its about time. EA should be more direct and bash the living hell out of CoD at a conference, just for the Lulz.

Thank God they are getting affected, its about time. EA should be more direct and bash the living hell out of CoD at a conference, just for the Lulz.

Lucianu

Yeah! That would be awesome as long as they don't bash Act and the COD franchise to the extreme and just bash them at a respectable tone.

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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]thank god these forums don't = the worldChubbyGuy40

Scores will belong to BF3. Sales will most likely belong to MW3.

Scores >>> sales.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] This is true. That's why we're gonna see MW3 defeat BF3 when all is said and done ^_^drinkerofjuice

Scores will belong to BF3. Sales will most likely belong to MW3.

Scores >>> sales.

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Scores will belong to BF3. Sales will most likely belong to MW3.

Scores >>> sales.

Birdy09

I just find it humourous that it comes from the same people who "couldn't care less about scores" and think they're "worthless". That's all.

drinkerofjuice

The two things aren't related in any way :?

An Activision CEO gives a sensible reply in response to a rather controversial comment from John Riccitiello yet, nevertheless, small details like the message content must have been invariably lost on the public between the headlines, because I don't see why anyone would object to what Hirshberg said.

Wow. The guy goes up and makes a good, solid point but then I look to the comments and see that most everyone is against him. Just pretend for a second that the guy ISN'T with Activision. Put your petty hatred aside and listen to what he's actually saying: - Competition is good - Having more games in market is good - Mudslinging is bad - Having fewer games is bad How is it possible that any gamer could see that list and go "No, I completely disagree. This guy is just a crybaby." But of course, since it's Activision and CoD was mentioned, we all have to put on our fanboy jerseys and mock the hell out of someone who made a good point. Come on, people. Just pretend that Notch said this, or something. Wouldn't you be applauding if he were the one up there saying those same words?

No. Minecraft should rot from the core.

More people enjoying it is not ">>>" less people enjoying it a bit more. With that logic Meyer and Rowling write betterbooks than Dante and Virgil.N30F3N1X

"Better" (good) is a subjective, personal criteria. It isn't what I was talking about, nor what I was using the ">>>" for.

I meant that millions of people enjoying a game is more significant (from a industry standpoint)than a couple of reviewers enjoying a game a bit more, since it shows what more playes want to play.

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]I just find it humourous that it comes from the same people who "couldn't care less about scores" and think they're "worthless". That's all.

N30F3N1X

The two things aren't related in any way :?

"Better" (good) is a subjective, personal criteria. It isn't what I was talking about, nor what I was using the ">>>" for.

I meant that millions of people enjoying a game is more significant (from a industry standpoint)than a couple of reviewers enjoying a game a bit more, since it shows what more playes want to play.

IronBass

Bs.

It's not what "players want to play", it's what "players get slammed in the face". If CoD didn't have Activision to back up its multimillion advertising campaign or if any other FPS developer had the same resources they would be in the same position.

Bs.

It's not what "players want to play", it's what "players get slammed in the face". If CoD didn't have Activision to back up its multimillion advertising campaign or if any other FPS developer had the same resources they would be in the same position.

N30F3N1X

That's a different subject (the "why" do people want to play it). And since there are tens (if not hundreds) of factors that affect that, it's not something we're in position to discuss.

The fact that millions of people play CoD every day remains. And unless somebody is pointing a gun at them forcing them to play, the only logical conclussion is that they do it because they want to (I mean, I never heard that so many people play a game because they don't want to) :]

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"Better" (good) is a subjective, personal criteria. It isn't what I was talking about, nor what I was using the ">>>" for.

I meant that millions of people enjoying a game is more significant (from a industry standpoint)than a couple of reviewers enjoying a game a bit more, since it shows what more playes want to play.

Bs.

It's not what "players want to play", it's what "players get slammed in the face". If CoD didn't have Activision to back up its multimillion advertising campaign or if any other FPS developer had the same resources they would be in the same position.

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So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

Wasdie

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

So they don't want people to talk bad about COD?

redskins26rocs

They were deleting negative comments on their Youtube videos.

This guy needs to stop being such a baby and learn to take some criticism. Every other dev is criticized but you don't here them complaining about how "oh, our games are the industry, don't insult us, pwetty pweese."

it harms there profits, NOT the games industry, games industry did fine before COD and will be fine after it ceases to existdelta3074

Activision and EA are both historically guilty of being horribly greedy publishers who stifle creativity to pump out sequels and DLC. That kind of behavior harms the gaming industry, results in franshice milking, and ultimately is the root cause of all the COD hate in the first place.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]it harms there profits, NOT the games industry, games industry did fine before COD and will be fine after it ceases to existenterawesome

EA and Dice are so pathetic.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="delta3074"]it harms there profits, NOT the games industry, games industry did fine before COD and will be fine after it ceases to existDangerousLiquid

EA and Dice are so pathetic.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.

Wanna talk about whose insecure? The guy in the article/ video is whining about how anything bad said about CoD hurts the industry as a whole.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.DangerousLiquid

Yeah, it's obvious EA made a huge mistake with all the declarations against CoD, and now that they see that it will be impossible for them to defeat MW3, they're in panic.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="delta3074"]it harms there profits, NOT the games industry, games industry did fine before COD and will be fine after it ceases to existDangerousLiquid

EA and Dice are so pathetic.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.

I just find it weird that the same guys that talk down on CoD never mention any games with tigher controls, good responsiveness, or basically, anything that would suggest their pet games are any better for serious gamers(i.e people who play competetively). I wonder if the management at Activision even realizes how massive an advantage CoD has due to its engine that handles better than most despite being really ugly.

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"] Which in turn harms the industry. Do you honestly believe there aren't gamers out there who love to play CoD? The EA CEO is constantly railing on CoD and making it seem as if their goal is to annihilate the entire franchise, or "rot from the core" as he put it. That means there are less games in the world for people to enjoy, so yes, it does hurt the industry.turtlethetaffer

EA and Dice are so pathetic.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.

Wanna talk about whose insecure? The guy in the article/ video is whining about how anything bad said about CoD hurts the industry as a whole.

EA has been whining for months now, I'd be worried if I were in Acti's shoes, as well.

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"] Which in turn harms the industry. Do you honestly believe there aren't gamers out there who love to play CoD? The EA CEO is constantly railing on CoD and making it seem as if their goal is to annihilate the entire franchise, or "rot from the core" as he put it. That means there are less games in the world for people to enjoy, so yes, it does hurt the industry.turtlethetaffer

EA and Dice are so pathetic.

Talking crap about COD all the time because they are so insecure about BF3 and know they will get their ass handed to in terms of sales.

Wanna talk about whose insecure? The guy in the article/ video is whining about how anything bad said about CoD hurts the industry as a whole.

He didn't say that.

Let's grow a pair and learn to take criticism. millerlight89

Riccitiello's 'criticism' was about as constructive as the comments here.