Activision: Gamers will 100% go for the cheaper next gen console (PS4VSX1)

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#101 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

MonsieurX
Such a bad build for the price :lol:

build one cheaper with operating system included.
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#102 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]I know some people who are buying the One just because they don't like the dualshock controller and want to play Halo. So I wouldn't be too sure about that, Activision. Oh, and obligatory, CoD LOL. BF4>>>>>>>>>>>>-RocBoys9489-

You've got to read into what they're saying.

If they showed a group of people both consoles, and said "Both will play highly-anticipated games with next-gen visuals, but one is $100 more" then of course everyone would choose the one that's $100 less.

But that's not the real-world scenario, and that's not what Activision is talking about. They're just simply talking about the focus group who really knows nothing about the systems other than that they do "pretty much the same thing" for a different price.

Obviously people will sway one way or another if they know more about the consoles. The Xbox One's library being amazing, and the enhanced feature set, is why the console is staying competitive at the current moment despite mountains of bad press.

They're not hardcore gamers really, they're the Madden, Gears, Halo, CoD, 2k, Fifa crowd and have been on XBL forever. I'm going to predict that the PS4 and One are going to sell damn near the same amount of units for the first two years. Both have their set demographics I think. As it stands with my PC right now, I don't see any incentive to buy these consoles at the prices right now and have to pay for online. Too few exclusives right now also. I'll be playing the big multiplats at still higher settings this fall.

Chya, the PC makes the thought of buying a console harder, and harder every day 

With that said, if I had $500 lying around that had absolutely no purpose in life than to buy something ultimately pointless, I'd buy an Xbox One. That way I'm ready for the awesomeness rather than relying on friends for games, like Halo, all last gen.

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#103 Videodogg
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It is not even about price, for me anyway. 

If Sony had included the PS camera and priced the PS4 at $499 , i still would rather get the PS4 over the Xbox One. I like the Move functionality much better than the Kinect. I love the idea of Move functionality on the ps4 controller and i really hope it is a feature that is well used in games. I love the Move wand controllers too, as they are very precise and accurate. They work very well in FPS games as well as some sports games like Golf and i like the casual Sports Champion series too. 

Kinect on the other hand is completely usless in games, with the exception of Dance games, and has virtually no appeal to me.

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#104 pcgamingowns
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better investment than a shitty console anyday last you longer than a console will for gaming.

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#105 Wasdie  Moderator
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Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

pcgamingowns

That's not even a good build. No GPU, no blu-ray drive (you get one on the consoles), and a mediocre processor (majority of PC games prefer strong cores to many weak cores). By the time you actually get the thing built you're looking at at least $650 for a PC that you'll have to turn down the graphic settings just to play modern games with.

If the only reason you're building a PC is to play just slight above console settings, you're just fooling yourself.

If you're going to build a gaming PC you might as well drop the money and do it right. You'll upgrade less over the years and just be happier.

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#106 Obviously_Right
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Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

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#107 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

Obviously_Right

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No monitor? Does the PS4 includes one?
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#108 LordOfPoms
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

MonsieurX

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You Hermits fail so hard. Just admit a Gaming PC is far more expensive.

No monitor? Does the PS4 includes one?

Televisions are only owned by the rich, elite and sultanates of society.
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#109 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

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You Hermits fail so hard. Just admit a Gaming PC is far more expensive.

^^^That's a bad build. But anyway, the chances you don't own a KB&M, monitor, and speakers already are probably very low. Guess you gotta include the price of a TV in your console price too lem :lol: Wi-fi adapters are as cheap as $10 and you don't need a Blu Ray drive. Games are DD on Steam. Not to meantion they're much cheaper and online is free.
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#110 PCgameruk
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Wii U has won. Thank you finalstar!Blabadon
With the Wii U shitty hardware it works out alot more expensive actually.
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#111 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

No Keyboard

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No speakers

No Blu Ray

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You Hermits fail so hard. Just admit a Gaming PC is far more expensive.

LordOfPoms
No monitor? Does the PS4 includes one?

Televisions are only owned by the rich, elite and sultanates of society.

You can hook your PC up to televisions, though. He should have included mouse/keyboard. That would have added $20-$30. He also should have just ordered good parts. That would have saved a whole lot of headaches. You would have to start venturing into $1000+ territory before PC gaming actually became more expensive than console gaming.
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#112 finalstar2007
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PC is cheaper so more people will go PC this Gen then? I know i 'm going this route.dobzilian

Why is PC always thrown in every thread? are PC owners that desperate for more people to join? the thread has nothing to do with PC and no PC is not cheaper, if you really want real gaming on the  PC it could cost $900+ but i do agree that games are very cheap on the PC ( OR you can even get all games for free if you wish and desire, its very easy ).. there is no point in throwing PC down in every single thread, not everyone like what PC has to offer and not all games are on the PC.

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#113 Wolfetan
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PS4 is only 40 dollars cheaper when you add Eye.ShoulderOfOrion
And why the hell would you want an Eye?
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#114 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]I know some people who are buying the One just because they don't like the dualshock controller and want to play Halo. So I wouldn't be too sure about that, Activision. Oh, and obligatory, CoD LOL. BF4>>>>>>>>>>>>-RocBoys9489-

Halo and a controller they've never tried.. You know some morons my friend.

The DS4 barely looks different from the ds3, same as the one controller and 360. They're just newer, uglier versions.

The DS4 is a whole completely new controller, heck even the BF4 devs are saying its superior that PS3 and xbox controllers, opinion of someone who not only makes a huge FPS but also someone who actually treid it http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/25/battlefield-4-designer-explains-superiority-of-dualshock-4-over-ps3-and-360-controller-mocks-the-fanboys/

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#115 finalstar2007
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Not 100% of gamers but most will buy Ps4 yeah.

 

Oh btw finalstar2007, i just saw Man of Steel and no way that is Movie of the year, that goes to Django Unchained:P

aroxx_ab

I thoguht man of steel was so good i may go see it again :P.. easily i thought it was the best super hero movie

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#116 MasterX666
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Anyone who buys a X1 his bad with money and has very bad taste in general!

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#117 Lionheart08
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PS4 is only 40 dollars cheaper when you add Eye.ShoulderOfOrion

Except the Eye isn't mandatory. Can't say the same for Kinect unfortunately. :P

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#118 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Yes, gamers will go for the cheaper and superior console with better games

-RocBoys9489-

I watched RAW for the first time in a year a couple days ago. My god, how bad the WWE has become, nothing like it was 10-15 years ago.

Wrestling has always sucked. It just went from being trashy anti-establishment pandering in the 90s to "Please stop scrutinizing us for Chris Benoit" today.

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#119 Far_RockNYC
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SO the Wii u will win in sales! ..........o wait. 

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#120 Granny_Spanked
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"] Nope I'm going with Playstation. 20 exclusives instead of 15, more powerful system, better online, and I won't get screwed by Microsoft.

There is no possible scenario in which a PlayStation system has better online than an Xbox system. It will never happen. There is literally a bigger chance of Sony inventing time travel than them making a better online system than Microsoft.

So you're saying my other three points are valid, glad to see you came around.
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#121 Alucard_Prime
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Seems to me he's stating the obvious. Of course we like to pay less for stuff. The people who will get an X1 will need to be convinced there is an aded 100$ value in what they are getting, or that the X1 meets their needs more. Of course if the consoles are identical but one cost 100$ more than the other, why the hell would anyone buy the more expensive one? 

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#122 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

Wasdie

That's not even a good build. No GPU, no blu-ray drive (you get one on the consoles), and a mediocre processor (majority of PC games prefer strong cores to many weak cores). By the time you actually get the thing built you're looking at at least $650 for a PC that you'll have to turn down the graphic settings just to play modern games with.

If the only reason you're building a PC is to play just slight above console settings, you're just fooling yourself.

If you're going to build a gaming PC you might as well drop the money and do it right. You'll upgrade less over the years and just be happier.

ahaaahahaahhhhahhahhhahhhhh you can buy a blu ray drive for that pc for like 50$ bucks and pc games dont ship on blu ray you'd know that if u were pc gamer and that cpu stomps the piss out of xdone and ps4 cpu which use **** 1.8 ghz tablet processors.

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#123 pcgamingowns
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all you gotta do is add a graphics processor read latest www.anandtech.com reviews for graphics card never hurts to read instructions install the graphics card and take dumps on ps4/xdone.

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#124 pcgamingowns
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upgrade the gpu every 4-5 years pc last like over 10 years still be running shit on max.

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#125 pcgamingowns
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difference is 4-5 years multiplats on console hell not even launch day will be running max settings like the pc version.

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#126 pcgamingowns
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quake 4 and call of duty 2  on xbox360 were serverly watered down pieces of shit when it came to graphics compared to pc on launch day in 2005 same shits gonna happen.

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#127 lamprey263
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there's that rumor going around that MS may remove the Kinect requirement, I'm inclined to maybe believe it since removing it from being bundled with consoles can drop the price probably by $100, if not more if say MS takes a loss on it to try to beat PS4 on price, surely they can't be so blind that they don't realize that cheaper has an advantage with consumers... then again maybe this just plays into that 3rd console curse
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#128 dream431ca
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Yes 400 dollars for a system that is pretty much the same in terms of hardware (but still more powerful) is nice.

 

The fact the big difference is the lack of camera on PS4 which I can still buy if I want for 60 dollars and it still be 40 dollars less than a xb1 with its camera is nice.

 

The fact I can get ps+ which gives A LOT MORE than xbl live does, for less is nice also.

 

But what it comes down to is politics for me. MS slammed its consumers hard with tons of drm and said "deal with it" and spent weeks, months arguing with consumers as to why they should deal with it, then flip flopped not for the sake of the customer but to get better sales. The fact they put even something simple as netflix behind a paywall and dozens of other reasons why I wont support MS. I wont support them for their terrible lack of respect for the very people who keep them in business.

 

Im not a fanboy of any system because I love games. But I also wont support a company that treats its customers like walking wallets and nothing else. If sony did the same thing as MS and MS was the company to give its customers options and showed that they mattered then I would have pre ordered a xb1 instead of a ps4.

 

If a company does things that dont make me feel like a valued customer I dont give them money, regardless of who they are.

Gargus

This post wins.

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#129 mariokart64fan
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Wii U has won. Thank you finalstar!finalstar2007

the title says next gen console not last gen so WiiU cant possibily win :D

your welcome

lol

wiiu wins period no its aints or buts youll see , just like how psvita was supposed to out sell 3ds with its heavier hardware ? lol guess people never learn from the past lol

 

 

the problem with wiiiu right now is the heavy titles have yet to hit , wiiu is just starting to wake up just like 3ds and ds and ps3 lol all of which took time

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#130 Seabas989
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So the Wii U wins? :P

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#131 TheWalkingGhost
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The cheaper one and the superior one.faizan_faizan
The WiiU is superior to neither.
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#132 MrGeezer
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Brand loyalty goes pretty far with video games. People will blindly buy a console from their favorite brand despite everything.

Wasdie
I don't think it matters THAT much, or else PS3 would have won last generation and the WiiU would be selling a $***load better than it is right now. All other things being nearly equal, brand loyalty is gonna win. But I think there's enough difference between the PS4 and the X1 (price being a big one) that brand loyalty isn't gonna matter THAT much.
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#133 branketra
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Activision apparently does not consider Nintendo to be competing with Sony and Microsoft.
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#134 cainetao11
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What if I get the cheaper console AND the more expensive one?

 

Mind = Blown?

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Right there with ya
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#135 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Brand loyalty goes pretty far with video games. People will blindly buy a console from their favorite brand despite everything.

MrGeezer
I don't think it matters THAT much, or else PS3 would have won last generation and the WiiU would be selling a $***load better than it is right now. All other things being nearly equal, brand loyalty is gonna win. But I think there's enough difference between the PS4 and the X1 (price being a big one) that brand loyalty isn't gonna matter THAT much.

I agree for the most part. Sony is world wide the brand, imo. They will sell the most.
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#136 StrongBlackVine
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there's that rumor going around that MS may remove the Kinect requirement, I'm inclined to maybe believe it since removing it from being bundled with consoles can drop the price probably by $100, if not more if say MS takes a loss on it to try to beat PS4 on price, surely they can't be so blind that they don't realize that cheaper has an advantage with consumers... then again maybe this just plays into that 3rd console curselamprey263

So Microsoft will just give up every single thing that had planned with X1. Without Kinect it is CLEARLY inferior to PS4.

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#137 Blake135
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Yes 400 dollars for a system that is pretty much the same in terms of hardware (but still more powerful) is nice.

 

The fact the big difference is the lack of camera on PS4 which I can still buy if I want for 60 dollars and it still be 40 dollars less than a xb1 with its camera is nice.

 

The fact I can get ps+ which gives A LOT MORE than xbl live does, for less is nice also.

 

But what it comes down to is politics for me. MS slammed its consumers hard with tons of drm and said "deal with it" and spent weeks, months arguing with consumers as to why they should deal with it, then flip flopped not for the sake of the customer but to get better sales. The fact they put even something simple as netflix behind a paywall and dozens of other reasons why I wont support MS. I wont support them for their terrible lack of respect for the very people who keep them in business.

 

Im not a fanboy of any system because I love games. But I also wont support a company that treats its customers like walking wallets and nothing else. If sony did the same thing as MS and MS was the company to give its customers options and showed that they mattered then I would have pre ordered a xb1 instead of a ps4.

 

If a company does things that dont make me feel like a valued customer I dont give them money, regardless of who they are.

Gargus

Yep very nice sums up my thoughts aswell.

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#138 Cranler
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quake 4 and call of duty 2  on xbox360 were serverly watered down pieces of shit when it came to graphics compared to pc on launch day in 2005 same shits gonna happen.

pcgamingowns
Youre wrong about CoD 2. http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/12/10/call-of-duty-2-head-to-head?page=3
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#139 finalstar2007
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Activision apparently does not consider Nintendo to be competing with Sony and Microsoft.BranKetra

Seeing how CoD:Ghosts ( and most if not all multiplats ) havent even been announced for the WiiU yet i dont think they take the WiiU very seriously.

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#140 Cranler
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

Better than a sucky ass console custom built by ascendtech.

All you need to do now is add a graphics card 100-200$

 

by the time you buy xbox live and a game it's gonna coast about the same as the pc with graphics card

 

Obviously_Right

No Keyboard

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No Monitor

No speakers

No Blu Ray

No Wi-Fi

You Hermits fail so hard. Just admit a Gaming PC is far more expensive.

Consoles come with tv's and speakers?
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#141 Teuf_
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They're just trying to get MS to drop the price. A cheaper console is better for publishers, since it means more consoles that can play their games.

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#142 paraskhos_basic
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Lets hope ms can do something amazing with their system.
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Just wanted to say that.
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#144 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Activision apparently does not consider Nintendo to be competing with Sony and Microsoft.finalstar2007

Seeing how CoD:Ghosts ( and most if not all multiplats ) havent even been announced for the WiiU yet i dont think they take the WiiU very seriously.

Nintendo itself issued a statement asserting it does not compete with other video game companies. For better or worse, video game publishers and developers seem to be accepting Nintendo's statement and are working to make their video games only for the most popular platforms.
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#145 Merex760
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PS4 is only 40 dollars cheaper when you add Eye.ShoulderOfOrion
No, it's $100 cheaper to the consumer that doesn't want gimmicky motion controls. See, the Xbone would also be cheaper if they gave consumers the OPTION. No options with Microsoft, unfortunately.
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#146 campzor
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Hopefully, we need another ps2 domination scenario.
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#147 mitu123
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I'm going for both though I agree with them in the fact that the cheaper console will definitely have more sales.