Admit it!, There is not a RPG game on any console/PC that will beat Witcher 3 anytime soon

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#51 cainetao11  Online
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@StrongBlackVine said:
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Considering Bloodborne beat in the same year....

I like the idea of The Witcher 3, but haven't had motivation to finish it and I have had the game since launch. The combat is boring and bad. If I ever finish it the story/writing will be the only reason. That is top notch.

People say The Witcher 3 is not padded like other games, but it is absolutely full of filler content all over the map.

?

10>9. More GOTY awards. Guess that doesn't matter in this instance.

Correct. It wasn't my GOTY. Both games have 92 aggregate on Metacritic so it's not like there was a huge gap in perceived quality. The Witcher 3 just has way more casual appeal hence more awards.

OKey doke.

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#52  Edited By cainetao11  Online
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@casharmy said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@cainetao11 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

Considering Bloodborne beat in the same year....

I like the idea of The Witcher 3, but haven't had motivation to finish it and I have had the game since launch. The combat is boring and bad. If I ever finish it the story/writing will be the only reason. That is top notch.

People say The Witcher 3 is not padded like other games, but it is absolutely full of filler content all over the map.

?

10>9. More GOTY awards. Guess that doesn't matter in this instance.

Correct. It wasn't my GOTY.

lol thread title says "Admit it" which implies we are answering with our personal opinion.

Captain America here needs to recognize that game reviews have no hand in this discussion but any thought process probably went out the window when he saw you list a Sony exclusive and his bigot nationalist xbox fanboyism went off the rector scale in attack mode.

LOL you're suggesting you put thought into this place. In malhovich's thread about Gears 4 being the best 3rd person shooter of the year, it was inundated by cows posting "10>7 lol your tears blah blah". Suddenly its not right to do? In SW, of all places?

Thanks for sharing.

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#53  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@mems_1224 said:

lol the combat, exploration and open world in witcher 3 were complete and utter shit though

You're confusing it with Skyrim.

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#54 Jag85
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@the_master_race said:

3- FFXV (I was watching TB's Podcast , jesse said the game is stupid but it's so fun and there's a rumor that Square Einx made its team to play witcher 3 before designing FFXV)

Rumour is false. FFXV was in development hell long before even the first Witcher.

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Mass Effect Andromeda would like to have a word with you ??

Oh yes Mass Effect Andromeda , SJW's 2017 GOT

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#57 the_master_race
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@Jag85 said:
@the_master_race said:

3- FFXV (I was watching TB's Podcast , jesse said the game is stupid but it's so fun and there's a rumor that Square Einx made its team to play witcher 3 before designing FFXV)

Rumour is false. FFXV was in development hell long before even the first Witcher.

No I mean before completing the design .....

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2016/04/final_fantasy_xvs_dev_team_played_a_lot_of_the_witcher_3_last_year

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Not one game beat TW3 this year, it's a masterpiece, this is easy to admit.

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@Berserker1_5 said:

Before Witcher 3, I played games just out of boredom. I had trouble playing games as I found most stories cliche, boring, or something else. I would also revert to some online game like BF, LOL, Dota, Smite..etc

After I played Witcher 3, I got to say; the game ignited the fire in my heart for single player games again. Yet, there is this disappointment. I can't seem to find a game that close to it in story telling, combat, exploration, open world. They always lack a characteristic that tends to bog it down

FF15 is a more fun game than Witcher 3

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@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:

lol the combat, exploration and open world in witcher 3 were complete and utter shit though

You're confusing it with Skyrim.

Nope, definitely not. Skyrim actually has interesting environments and lore. Witcher doesn't.

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#61 commander
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the witcher 3 gets boring fast.

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#62  Edited By the_master_race
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@putaspongeon said:
@Berserker1_5 said:

Before Witcher 3, I played games just out of boredom. I had trouble playing games as I found most stories cliche, boring, or something else. I would also revert to some online game like BF, LOL, Dota, Smite..etc

After I played Witcher 3, I got to say; the game ignited the fire in my heart for single player games again. Yet, there is this disappointment. I can't seem to find a game that close to it in story telling, combat, exploration, open world. They always lack a characteristic that tends to bog it down

FF15 is a more fun game than Witcher 3

/thread

maybe gameplaywise , ... storywise fukc No

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I dunno, I bought it several months ago and I haven't even touched it.

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@mems_1224 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:

lol the combat, exploration and open world in witcher 3 were complete and utter shit though

You're confusing it with Skyrim.

Nope, definitely not. Skyrim actually has interesting environments and lore. Witcher doesn't.

None of the Bethesda RPGs has anything worthwhile except bugs. Complete and utter waste of time and money.

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#65 jun_aka_pekto
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If Doom Reboot and TW3 came out at the same time, I'd definitely buy Doom first.

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@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:

lol the combat, exploration and open world in witcher 3 were complete and utter shit though

You're confusing it with Skyrim.

Nope, definitely not. Skyrim actually has interesting environments and lore. Witcher doesn't.

None of the Bethesda RPGs has anything worthwhile except bugs. Complete and utter waste of time and money.

k

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My opinion is better than your's. :p

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#68  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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DS3 already did. Found myself just trying to hurry up and beat witcher. Meh.

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Its incredibly boring, mediocre and most overrated game of this generation by long margin. your character can barely walk, combat is trash, story and dialogues are boring.

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

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#70  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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I will easily admit that. I love every single aspect of The Witcher 3.

@Random_Matt said:

Good game, but overrated. The open world was quite pointless, served no purpose apart from question marks and other tedious crap. Tons of better rpgs out there.

Such as?

People are praising Skyrim and hailing it as better than The Witcher 3? Where's my gigantic facepalm emote.

Skyrim has a garbage story, filled with boring, derivative characters. The voice acting is on par with a middle school kid's production play, and the hack and slash sponge combat is lul-worthy. Here, let me just hack at this enemy for 5 minutes with right trigger/left click. No need to dodge, or heal, or even try another approach; I can just hack and slash till the sun comes up.

The world is decent, at best, mostly involving dwemer ruins that all look the same, and a bunch of boring stories about characters you'll never get to interact with, or even appeal to. I went into a dungeon in one game, and at the end, there was a woman who said, "You had so much potential, but I guess I'll just have to kill you." What potential? Was I good in bed? Did I have some ugly characteristic that would put me in a great side show? Why can't I join you and help your cause? Why am I always stuck being the good guy and why did I have no choice, whatsoever?

The Witcher 3 had quests out in the middle of nowhere where you met a troll, for instance, who kept getting attacked by men. Now, it was a sort of friendly troll, that wasn't really harming anyone unless they got close, and it even warned them. In Skyrim, you could have killed him, or you could have killed him. But in The Witcher, you could actually help him paint a shield on his tent to hopefully stop people attacking him, or you could kill him. It's all about choices, and the outcomes are different, indeed.

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W3 was a great game with a cool story, but the combat and core gameplay wasn't as good as Bloodborne or DS3. It's why I've played through W3 only once with a few side missions. I played Bloodborne twice all the way through and then bought and beat the DLC, the game was just that fun.

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True, but considering TW3 is one of the best games ever made, that's not necessarily a bad thing. There are fantastic RPGs out and coming, anyway (Divinity OS, Wasteland 2 and 3, etc, etc).

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@ghosts4ever said:

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

Except i take Crysis 2 over witcher 3 in every single way. and it was very consolzied dumbed down verison of original groundbreaking Crysis.

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#75  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

Except i take Crysis 2 over witcher 3 in every single way. and it was very consolzied dumbed down verison of original groundbreaking Crysis.

As far as gameplay is concerned Crysis 2 is undoubtedly a better game. Even if it is made for 12 year old Halo players.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

Except i take Crysis 2 over witcher 3 in every single way. and it was very consolzied dumbed down verison of original groundbreaking Crysis.

As far as gameplay is concerned Crysis 2 is undoubtedly a better game. Even if it is made for 12 year old Halo players.

Crysis 2 was ok. not bad. Crysis 3 was really bad and most forgettable game.

btw only witcher game i really liked was witcher 2. first game was terrible. and 3rd game is very overrated.

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RPG is a very broad term... Wasteland 3 and Divinity 2 will easily be better RPGs. Witcher 3 is an Action-Adventure RPG-Lite.....

I enjoyed TW3 for what it was though. Great presentation if you look past the few minor bugs and glitches. The combat was fun, but nothing special. I like the alchemy/combat build. Decoctions FTW.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:

its presentation is only good thing about it. this game exposed CDPR can never make game with good combat.

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

Except i take Crysis 2 over witcher 3 in every single way. and it was very consolzied dumbed down verison of original groundbreaking Crysis.

As far as gameplay is concerned Crysis 2 is undoubtedly a better game. Even if it is made for 12 year old Halo players.

Crysis 2 was ok. not bad. Crysis 3 was really bad and most forgettable game.

btw only witcher game i really liked was witcher 2. first game was terrible. and 3rd game is very overrated.

I'm sorry so you liked The Witcher 2's combat ove 3's?

They were both bad but 2s was worse

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@acp_45 said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

They are incredibly overrated.

Pc gamers espcailly. When Crytek jumped aboard the gravy train with Crysis 2, the game transformed into a console title for which they where (and still are) berated.

The Witcher 3 is exactly that, after all CDP big talk, they, like Crytek, jumped ship. Yet you will see almost no criticism from pc gamers, even though it's obvious within the first 5 minutes of playing it something is off.

Except i take Crysis 2 over witcher 3 in every single way. and it was very consolzied dumbed down verison of original groundbreaking Crysis.

As far as gameplay is concerned Crysis 2 is undoubtedly a better game. Even if it is made for 12 year old Halo players.

Crysis 2 was ok. not bad. Crysis 3 was really bad and most forgettable game.

btw only witcher game i really liked was witcher 2. first game was terrible. and 3rd game is very overrated.

I'm sorry so you liked The Witcher 2's combat ove 3's?

They were both bad but 2s was worse

not combat. its always bad. overall structure of game was better. story was better. it was not boring horse riding simulator.

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#80  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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The Witcher 3 took more cues from the books. It isn't quite The Witcher without Ciri and Yennefer.

I prefer the more cohesive map design of Witcher 2 though, even though Witcher 3 has a nice open world.

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#81  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@Jag85 said:

In terms of combat, it's sub-par compared to other top-tier modern RPGs in that department.

Like what? Most RPGs have totally awful sword combat - I'd say TW3 is well above average, being bested primarily by Souls games which better shine in that department due to that being their defining feature (they are barely RPGs; even less so than TW3). The mindless clicky-clicky of Skyrim? Retro point-and-clicky of Pillars of Eternity? Those are not compelling examples of swordplay

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@Berserker1_5 said:

Before Witcher 3, I played games just out of boredom. I had trouble playing games as I found most stories cliche, boring, or something else. I would also revert to some online game like BF, LOL, Dota, Smite..etc

After I played Witcher 3, I got to say; the game ignited the fire in my heart for single player games again. Yet, there is this disappointment. I can't seem to find a game that close to it in story telling, combat, exploration, open world. They always lack a characteristic that tends to bog it down

witcher sucked. mass effect will blow it out of the water. and nobody can pull fanboy BS on this comment since they are both multiplats.

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@Berserker1_5:

It depends on what you consider a good rpg. Witcher 3 was a great game but I can't say it's my favorite over other rpg's. Persona 4 Golden, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Final Fantasy, Atelier, Fable, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Fallout.... I actually had more fun with these rpg's than Witcher 3.

My biggest gripe with Witcher 3 is the combat and healing system. It takes waaaaay too long for food to heal you and the worst part is that it's so hard to find. On normal mode, Gheralt dies too easy. The only way you can win a match with minimal damage is by playing like a bitch and dodging like crazy.

Other than that, I love the storytelling and presentation. Everything in Witcher 3's environment is so lively!

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#84  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@xantufrog said:
@Jag85 said:

In terms of combat, it's sub-par compared to other top-tier modern RPGs in that department.

Like what? Most RPGs have totally awful sword combat - I'd say TW3 is well above average, being bested primarily by Souls games which better shine in that department due to that being their defining feature (they are barely RPGs; even less so than TW3). The mindless clicky-clicky of Skyrim? Retro point-and-clicky of Pillars of Eternity? Those are not compelling examples of swordplay

I've asked this question and no one can come up with a solid answer. A lot of these people(on Gamespot forums) just rave about how TW3 combat sucks, but they can't name anything that's better except for the Souls series in terms of sword and board combat. Lol

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#85  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@Berserker1_5:

It depends on what you consider a good rpg. Witcher 3 was a great game but I can't say it's my favorite over other rpg's. Persona 4 Golden, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Final Fantasy, Atelier, Fable, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Fallout.... I actually had more fun with these rpg's than Witcher 3.

My biggest gripe with Witcher 3 is the combat and healing system. It takes waaaaay too long for food to heal you and the worst part is that it's so hard to find. On normal mode, Gheralt dies too easy. The only way you can win a match with minimal damage is by playing like a bitch and dodging like crazy.

Other than that, I love the storytelling and presentation. Everything in Witcher 3's environment is so lively!

Um... have you ever heard of potions?

There are potions called Swallow and White Rafford's decoction that restore great amounts of health in a short amount of time...

Also, Quen is your friend.

White Raffard's DecoctionImmediately restores a portion of VitalitySold by the Herbalist northeast of Oxenfurt

SwallowAccelerates Vitality regeneration. Vitality regenerates pauses upon receiving damage.Starting recipe

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#86  Edited By Epak_
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@mems_1224 said:

lol the combat, exploration and open world in witcher 3 were complete and utter shit though

You're confusing it with Skyrim.

Nope, definitely not. Skyrim actually has interesting environments and lore. Witcher doesn't.

None of the Bethesda RPGs has anything worthwhile except bugs. Complete and utter waste of time and money.

Skyrim is a ****** joke and Paarthurnax with his constant use of 'dragon language' is lame as hell...

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@killered3 said:

My biggest gripe with Witcher 3 is the combat and healing system. It takes waaaaay too long for food to heal you and the worst part is that it's so hard to find. On normal mode, Gheralt dies too easy. The only way you can win a match with minimal damage is by playing like a bitch and dodging like crazy.

Kill deer, hoes (LOL), and wolves = get meat. ezpz

I played on 'Blood and Bones' and honestly I found the game quite easy. The level above that though.... that's insane.

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I absolutely love TW3. Game of the gen so far for me.

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#89  Edited By ArchoNils2
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Nice opinion you got there. Personally I'm more of a JRPG guy. Witcher 3 was great for a WRPG, but it isn't even in my top 3 this gen

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#90 enzyme36
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Fallout NV is a better RPG

Fallout 4 has better combat and a better world map

Phantasy Star 4 is better.... in my heart :P

But Witcher 3 is solid and has a more impactful story... I still think its a bit overrated as its constant praise as omg best game ever. But not hating on anyone who thinks this.... a case can be made at least.

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#91 Flyincloud1116
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@ArchoNils2 said:

Nice opinion you got there. Personally I'm more of a JRPG guy. Witcher 3 was great for a WRPG, but it isn't even in my top 3 this gen

Me too.

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#92  Edited By thehig1
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I enjoyed skyrim and fallout 3/4 more than the witcher 2/3.

If it counts I prefer Dark souls 2/3 over all of them

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#93 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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In sheer volume, coherent game world, characters and monsters. Yeah. TW3 likely is the best. It is also one of the few with some measure of choice and consequence (you know the thing that is the very core of the PnP RPGs these games try so desperately to mirror).

Overall I will agree that it is likely the best, with runners up being: Divinity: Original Sin, Persona 4, Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines, Fallout 1 (I think that were the first and some of the few RPGs where you could win the game without ever killing anything). FF15 could be a runner up, but not finished it yet, but so far, while the game is quite fun, it is not very RPG in its nature. Persona 5 could likely give it a run for its money if the jump from P4 to 5 is as large as P3 to 4 (and to be honest it was not THAT big of jump overall)

So If I were to look at it objectively then yeah, TW3 is likely the best RPG made, I still Prefer Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines though.

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#94 nepu7supastar7
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@DragonfireXZ95:

Hehehehe.....Swallow.... ?

Good tip though, I guess. Witcher is still fucking hard.

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@The_Stand_In said:

Have you SEEN Divinity: Original Sin II, bro?!

On a side note I have tried to play Divinity Original Sin for awhile but have always been intimidated with the ruleset.. I am use to play DnD like games, and I cannot really understand how character building works in making a character when it comes to rp elements.. Like say I want to play something like a death knight/shadow knight/fallen paladin type.. Is there such a thing? To me it always struck me as something like Path of Exile in trying to understand the mechanics because they are literally the opposite of any other action rpg I have played.

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#96 Planeforger
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The Witcher 3 is probably the best game of the decade, but I'd love to see something top it soon.

More great games is always a good thing.

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#97  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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I still think Skyrim is much better. Skyrim has a more interesting open world to explore and offers more freedom for me to do whatever I want to do and be whoever I want to be. I also hate the combat and movement in The Witcher 3 so much that I had to quit playing it.

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#98 uninspiredcup  Online
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It's combat is better as well. With more varied play styles.

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#99 xxgunslingerxx
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witchers 3 combat and movement system are super clunky. Sorry but it actually fails there I gave up on playing just because I couldn't stand it.

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#100  Edited By TheFadeForever
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Story and quest wise the Witcher 3 does it better than Skyrim. Certain RPG do it better than other when it comes to certain aspect of gameplay and etc. Dark Souls does combat better than Witcher 3 but isn't nearly as story driven where the players have to find out by clues and interpretation by themselves.