Advantages of consoles over Pc

Lately people - including me - have been wondering if console gaming is still worth it. I can only come up with a few points as to what makes consoles better than Pc in some departments:

• optimization (devs get the most out of a specific hardware)
• local multiplayer (gaming with your family/friends on a couch)
• second-hand phyical copies market (example: got ZombiU at 4 euros)
• exclusives/timed exclusives (exclusives are a critical point and most likely the only reason that keeps Nintendo afloat)
• portability (major point for handhelds and a good one for home consoles - holidays/parties,ecc.. -)
• price (?) (very debatable)

Any other reasons you guys can come up with?

This is almost the same topic as this one. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/pc-gamers-why-do-you-own-consoles-32026598/#33

Not to be a killjoy, but...

• Day one patches, unfinished releases... the games of today are a joke compared to those of the PS2 era in terms of optimization.
• Only Nintendo consoles still provide this.
• Season passes, DRM and account-attachment kind of ruin this for the most part.
• This is the only reason consoles are still worth it.
• The Xbone and PS4 are not portable devices. And what about gaming laptops and computers built in small cases? They do exist.
• Lower cost of games on PC negate this point. Especially GOG, GMG and Steam sales.

yep, optimization this time around means squat since their using basically off the shelf low end to medium end pc parts using same coding standards. X1 is waiting on DX12 to actually make full use of its cpu and ACE units from its gpu along proper tools for the its esram pool. And most PS4 devs dont even take the time to "code to metal"

just as gaming machines

sadly many of the advantages of console gaming have been eroded over the years which is a shame. console gamers are now getting many of the same hassles as PC gamers but few of the benefits. in the meantime PC have become more robust and more reliable over the years. even the last bastion of the old console gaming, nintendo, has succumbed to the modern world. when i got my wuu it took the best part of 4 hours to get it patched, set up and so on (and thats on a good internet connection).

some of these hassles are necessary. with online gaming becoming big on consoles there had to be a way to patch and maintain games. same with online stores and so on. it would be impossible to be able to provide these services on something with the flexibility of a PS2 ot GC.

other parts, mandetory installs for example, are taking the whizz (and console gamers seem to be just accepting it, promoting it even, which i find astonishing.). consoles today are just too bloated. i mean the OSs on modern consoles take up half the ram available on the system roughly. thats insane and a colossal waste. on the PC it would be deemed completely unacceptable for the OS to be taking up half the available ram. if you have a PC where the OS is using half the ram then either, 1) your PC is crap and needs to be upgraded, 2) the OS is a bloated piece of crap and the developer will be flogged or 3) (most likely) you have installed and are running a whole load of useless crap which has caused the system to become bloated.

the one big advantage that consoles have over the PC is they do have very large companies pushing them and they have a set of developers that work only on those devices. some of those developers, like nintendos studios, are the very best in the world. so they get great games which are simply never going to see the light of day on the PC (or on any other console)...at least not in an official capacity. no one buys exclusive content for the PC. no one is pushing the PC as a gaming platform (nvidia, AMD and co push their own hardware of course...but they dont push the PC). no one has built a massive set of developers to work on PC games only.

thats the only advantage they have left imho.

I remember waiting hours just for my PS4 to slowly update the system and the game on that museum-grade 5400rpm HDD before I got to play Bloodborne. It was a slower "installation" than any PC game I had to install over the years, including the recent 60GB GTA 5.

Exclusives this gen are far too weak as well. My PS4 has been collecting dust ever since I finished Bloodborne, trolling alongside my PS3 that has nearly two years' worth of dust sitting on it. I guess I'll only turn my PS4 on again when Persona 5 is out, and then I'll probably trudge through another couple hours of updates.

plug n play

exclusives

used game market

parity in pvp software (for online multiplayer) - this one is a guess since I don't play PC games online

-Optimization: true but the point is made mute by pc overcoming said optimizations with raw processing power.

-Local multiplayer: kind of true, although not many games use it these days, you can always just make a lan on your laptop, for me that is better.

-Second hand copies: Overcome by the cheap prices of games on pc.

-Portability: You are talking about handhelds, not consoles.

-Exclusives: True the only reason to own a console, but if i had to pick only one system i would go with pc, better versions of all mutiplats (90% of game nowdays) > some exclusives

-Price: I won't argue this, pc is more expensive, but you get what you pay for.

I don't know about this gen but i've played many games in spit screen on xbox 360.

DRM on console? What? Not with physical games. What I do if a game has season pass, day one dlc and many patches because it's launched broken - don't buy it. Console optimization still matters, just less so. There will be exclusives this gen that will make the hardware sweat.

But if you don't want digital games and DRM, the cheap prices on PC are negated.

Used games advantage exceeds pricing, being able to sell your used games is nice too. I recently sold Battlefield 4 and Dying Light at decent prices online.

In reality
-It's cheaper
-2nd hand market
-Exclusives, which duh any system will have exclusives

Every other advantage of console gaming has been lost these days.

-Optimization: "PC struggles" in that department are a by product of wildly different gaming PC's out in the market, and it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. Massive strides have been made in that regard. Console gaming has gone backwards between the patches and all that jazz. More importantly PC games run smoothly, console games struggle to do 30, and this gens consoles are incredibly underpowered.

-Local multiplayer: What local multiplayer? Lets be real that's become an exception overtime, as console devs have been cutting this shit down sans the Japanese developers, and a franchise like Halo or Call of Duty.

The plug n play thing has always been dumb, because I was able to have my PC up and running fairly quickly to play game. Plus nowadays there are patches and install processes for console games. Otherwise as platforms they have been wildly outclassed by PC gaming.

Here's one advantage console games have over PC games when dealing with Japanese titles:

You're not expected to like a game clearly inferior to what you actually want on your system and you're allowed to complain if something goes wrong with the game.

That last point is really important, and the reason why consoles are so under powered compared to even moderately powerful gaming PCs. They invest in low end hardware because all that R&D from last gen wasn't worth it and hype up that weak hardware as next gen when it's really just a low end, extremely gimped PC. PC gamers don't have to worry about that because they can invest as little or as much as they want into a gaming rig with the expectation of having a certain level of performance out of their new rig. I wish that console owners realized how much they've been duped by Sony and Microsoft with the new consoles.

The only console maker I'd have to give props to for anything would have to be Nintendo. Their games almost never have bugs and feel unfinished. If there is a bug, it's fixed within two or three days and that's it. Their hardware is always reliable and they've got a mountain of exclusives not available anywhere else. Granted, they really seem to be new at the idea of updating the firmware as shown with the Wii U, but they at least try to be different from anybody else. They don't even try to compete in the horsepower department. I know everything I said in this paragraph is subjective given their terrible relations with 3rd parties, but I've seen a lot of PC gamers say that if they bought a console, it would be a Nintendo console because to get a console from MS or Sony would be redundant given the fact that most games from consoles come to PC baring the occasional exclusive. There are a lot more Nintendo exclusives I know I would want to play certainly than on Xbone or PS4. I love the Halo series, but I could live without that. On the other hand, all the myriad of Nintendo exclusives I know I want to play. It'd have to be PC and Nintendo for me.

Most of the time, Console advantage and "muh couch" attitude is just the illusion of advantage. Same goes for this thinking that Naughty Dog is best thing since sliced bread. Split Screen Co-op and used game market are real advantages of Console gaming (but PC games are cheaper on other hand). If you prefer Console exclusives then that's another advantage for you, but it may not be advantage for someone else. Other advantages of Consoles don't exist anymore.

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Im enjoying the new ys. no complaints here!

Was talking about games like Cladun X2, Rise of Incarnates, and the recent FF ports. Cladun X2 didn't sell enough units to warrant future NIS games on Steam, and too many people complained about Rise of Incarnates thus denying PC gamers of the Tales and Tekken franchises.

Main advantage is to use consoles as alternative gaming devices my PC is hooked up to a 27 inch monitor I can't get 1440p from my HDTV so for games like Divinity OS I want a monitor but for other games I want a huge TV which means 1080p which the PS4 handles good enough for me.

When/if I get a 4K TV I will buy another PC to play games on it and probably won't care much about console exclusives but that's a long way away.

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Here are 10 advantages consoles offer over PC:

1.Convenience

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Well there are too many variables in here, for me the best setup is pc (multiplats), ps4 (console exclusives) and wii u (exclusives), because they all have something that i want, for example i would never buy a wii u as a stand alone system, yet along with another system it become really great, ps4 is balanced because it gives decent graphics, exclusives and has better 3rd party than wii u, and pc because as i said is the best system for every single game that is multiplat which is most games nowdays, so i kinda agree when pc gamers say that if they want a console they would get a wii u since it's the more unique console.

I'd personally say

1. PC + PS4 + WII u

2. PC + PS4

3. PC + Wii u

4. PS4 + WII U

5. PC

6. PS4

7. Wii U

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999999999. Xbone

Years ago I would have said the plug and play type of experience you had with consoles was an HUGE advantage over PC... nowadays though, GBs of patches, install, sign ins, etc just made consoles look like cheaper PCs

sigh

There's nothing convenient about having to type up account and network settings using a controller.

Get into a multiplayer match pretty quick,

0 chance of Driver Conflicts

Software degradation is almost non existent

Games don't take as much commitment

straight forward trouble shooting

1. Convenience

2. Split screen multiplayer

3. Price

4. Japanese games (PC gets them but they are either shit console ports or the Japanese devs don't bother making them)

5. Used game market

@Krelian-co: something confusing ?

Compatibility issue is also a huge disadvantage on PC.

confusing? no, just the bullshit that almost went through my monitor and splashed me.

Console optimization isn't a factor anymore. The only time it happens is with first party developers. This can be tied with first party exclusives and mean just as much. To 3rd party developers and publishers, they couldn't care less about a port optimization as long as its in a playable state.

I can think of many reasons why you should choose a PC over a console these days. Every new console generation you have to buy new controllers at $60 a pop. Gotta upgrade your HDD or buy a external HDD. Peripherals from last generation don't work for your new system (guitar hero). No Backwards Compatibility (twins) and everyone else have already mentioned day 1 patches and Season Passes. Plus you gotta buy into the paywall to play online.

These days the only real advantage a console has over a PC is console exclusives.

@Krelian-co: what exactly is bullshit about what I said ?

Getting a multiplayer match quickly depends on what game is being played not what platform is being used to play. Your 1st claim is already BS. You know nothing about PC gaming.

A good example would be the MCC on release.

The biggest thing for me is convenience.

lol, Ok. It does depend on what game is being played. I dont play cod so i dont know you may have more experience in that, I mainly played games like ARMA2 and 3 on PC games you cant play on consoles. To get into games with Arma takes lots of time, and making sure your mods are sync'd with the server. I know nothing of PC gaming though.

• optimization (devs get the most out of a specific hardware)

Moot point this gen, both PS4 and Xbox One are low/mid range x86 IBM compatible machines

• local multiplayer (gaming with your family/friends on a couch)

Home LAN is great fun, if you have the hardware. PC's are actually compatible with TV's, I have this PC and a Laptop hooked to mine as I type and you can use any controller you want. Unfortunately split screen co-op is disappearing now as well

• second-hand phyical copies market (example: got ZombiU at 4 euros)

Steam sales and cheaper new releases counter this and digital is far more convenient. I can download a 30Gb, brand new game and be playing it in under an hour

• exclusives/timed exclusives (exclusives are a critical point and most likely the only reason that keeps Nintendo afloat)

PC gets fantastic exclusives as well that any consoles will never see. There are also the fact that it gets "console" exclusives as well such as Titanfall, Rise of the Tombraider, SSFV and No man's land

• portability (major point for handhelds and a good one for home consoles - holidays/parties,ecc.. -)

How portable is your PS4 or Xbox One? You're not playing that on the train! If you want to count handhelds then I guess there's Nvidia shield to balance the equation.

• price (?) (very debatable)

I probably wouldn't argue this as I know I spend a lot more money on hardware for cheaper software to be enough to even it off. Upgrading as regularly as I do is not essential nor is it required though

I'm afraid your list is really that relevant anymore with today's consoles desperately following along after PC. If there is another fixed hardware console generation after this one, it's going to be heavily skewed towards digital, physical copies of games, movies and music are well on their way to being history.

How is that a disadvantage when backward compatibility is not even a thing on consoles (other than re-buying the port of an old game)?

Consoles are still cheaper, simpler, longer lasting (a 2005 PC is not running GTAV, a 2005 console is), and provide local multiplayer. I'm enjoying my gaming PC this gen but I couldn't go without my consoles either.

a 2005 gaming pc can run gta v if it uses the same craptastic 2005 console settings (720p 30 with everything low)

The minimum PC requirements of GTAV did not yet exist in 2005. Please stop lying.

i don't know... I can highlight 60 games on steam and click install go to bed, and have 60 games available to play the next day, games are kept up to date... And installing games on ps4/xbox one is infinitly more clunky or requires a ride to the store. And with nvidia/ati having apps that can set up the settings for games I don't really have to to try and tweak anything any more.

I think the only benefit to consoles is really for devleopers, 1 or 2 target pieces of hardware is probaly easier to optimize and support.

Sony and Nintendo first and Second party games. That's about it.

Consoles used to be convenient but these days they try to be more like PCs. A console like the GC was simple.

a gaming pc of 2005 would run it, minimum requirements are usually lower common denominators, there was hardware in 2005 equivalent and stronger than the minimum requirements, of course, you being a console peasant ignorant would not know this, carry on.

Lol, you are an odd combination of extreme arrogance and utter idiocy. The GeForce 7800 GTX, released in 2005, had 256MB of RAM. GTAV requires a graphics card with a minimum of 1GB RAM. It also requires Vista or newer Windows, which did not exist in 2005. It also requires quad core processer; want to show me one of those from 2005?

Do you not get embarrassed talking such utter shit?

Shit will happen on all consoles, shit will just happen more often on PC. MCC was pure incompetence, put those same devs on PC and it'll be incompetence in a much more varied landscape increasing complexity. You'd be luck if that game even started...

they're all good, man

"GPU: Nvidia Geforce 210"

That's a 2009 graphics card with 1GB of RAM, which meets the minimum requirements.

There is no 2005 card that meets the minimum requirements.

Stop embarrassing yourself dude.

Edit: Lol, did you delete your post (#46) when you realised how crap it was? Smooth move :P

Local multiplayer, but that's mainly a Nintendo thing. And that's about it.

I'm so glad I invested in a gaming PC for this gen. Consoles have always been my primary choice for gaming, but the advantages they bring have vanished. I find PC gaming to not only be better, but also more convenient.

Yeah i deleted it as it contained wrong information, this one is right

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1308&game=Grand%20Theft%20Auto%20V Minimum Requirements

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gid=198&graphics=GeForce%209800%20GT gefore 9800gt Release Period-Jul-2008

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?pid=19&cpu=Core%202%20Quad%20Q6600%202.4GHz Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz Release period 08-Jan-2007

Anymore questions mr ignorant?

Kinda sad pathetic consolites peasants have to come down to 10 year old pcs to prove anything. There are far cheaper and better pieces today, but anyway if you want to feel winning over a 10 year old pc is a victory be my guest mr peasant.