After TLOU can we all agree that Naughty Dog is the best developer this gen

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#151 moistsandwich
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Super Mario Galaxy - 9.7

Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 9.7

is greater than

Uncharted 2 - 9.6

The Last of Us - 9.5

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#152 Sonysexual1
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Super Mario Galaxy - 9.7

Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 9.7

is greater than

Uncharted 2 - 9.6

The Last of Us - 9.5

 

 

moistsandwich

Yup. This proves Microsoft had the worst exclusives this gen.

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#153 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

I don't buy any game under 90 on meta. Sub-90 games are mediocre at best because of score inflation in the gaming press.

Sonysexual1

The first 3 Halo games are 9.1 and higher on Metacritic. WTF are you talking about. Stop using dumb User Scores. They are meaningless. The only scores that matter are the ones coming from professional gaming critics. Not juvenile kids like yourself.

So do you admit LittleBigPlanet trumps every single Halo and Gears game for this generation? How sad...

Pretty much every pc game comes with a creation kit. And we have titles like Garrys mod that have existed for yonks. Littlebigplanet is alright but thats not really the ends of ends either. I assume alot of 20 something hipsters for IGN or whatever reviewing games don't actually play pc games and thus have much lower standards and a very narrow horizon. It's like a child impressed by flashing lights.
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#154 Snugenz
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Nope, though they are a great dev.

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#155 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

So why are Halo sales so high? The game is a mediocre POS.

Sonysexual1

The sales are high because the game is GREAT. Your one of the few 100 people that can't see that. That's alright because blind bias fanboys tend to not see greatness on other platforms that aren't their favorite. lol!! I guess Super Mario Galaxy 2 (which has the highest Metacritic score and a 9.1 user score) is trash as well. lol!!

Is your brain malfunctioning? What does SMG2 have anything to do with Halo 4? Halo 4 is a mediocre CoD-wannabe game with high sales.

Halo 1, 2 & 3 were incredible. I don't see your point at all. What does LBP have to do with anything. lol!! You're embarrassing yourself truly. Even your fellow cows are starting to see how lame you point really is. Halo 4 has an 87 score. That's actually pretty great for Metacritic. If you're calling that trash, then every PS3 exclusive with a score of 87 or less is TRASH as well to you.
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#156 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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One of the best for sure. It's impossible to make everyone agree on THE best though,. 

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#157 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] The sales are high because the game is GREAT. Your one of the few 100 people that can't see that. That's alright because blind bias fanboys tend to not see greatness on other platforms that aren't their favorite. lol!! I guess Super Mario Galaxy 2 (which has the highest Metacritic score and a 9.1 user score) is trash as well. lol!! blackace

Is your brain malfunctioning? What does SMG2 have anything to do with Halo 4? Halo 4 is a mediocre CoD-wannabe game with high sales.

Halo 1, 2 & 3 were incredible. I don't see your point at all. What does LBP have to do with anything. lol!! You're embarrassing yourself truly. Even your fellow cows are starting to see how lame you point really is. Halo 4 has an 87 score. That's actually pretty great for Metacritic. If you're calling that trash, then every PS3 exclusive with a score of 87 or less is TRASH as well to you.

LBP has a 95 on metacritic, which is higher than every single Gears and Halo game this generation. Don't you find this embarassing?

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#158 WilliamRLBaker
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lol 8.0

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#159 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Yes we can certaintly agree on this

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#160 locopatho
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Is your brain malfunctioning? What does SMG2 have anything to do with Halo 4? Halo 4 is a mediocre CoD-wannabe game with high sales.

Sonysexual1

Halo 1, 2 & 3 were incredible. I don't see your point at all. What does LBP have to do with anything. lol!! You're embarrassing yourself truly. Even your fellow cows are starting to see how lame you point really is. Halo 4 has an 87 score. That's actually pretty great for Metacritic. If you're calling that trash, then every PS3 exclusive with a score of 87 or less is TRASH as well to you.

LBP has a 95 on metacritic, which is higher than every single Gears and Halo game this generation. Don't you find this embarassing?

LBP has shitty floaty gameplay tho. I'd take a good game like Crackdown (rated about 15 - 20 points lower) then that overrated crap.
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#161 mems_1224
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One of the best for sure. It's impossible to make everyone agree on THE best though,. 

seanmcloughlin
Exactly. So many great games this gen its impossible to choose.
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#162 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

I don't buy any game under 90 on meta. Sub-90 games are mediocre at best because of score inflation in the gaming press.

Sonysexual1

The first 3 Halo games are 9.1 and higher on Metacritic. WTF are you talking about. Stop using dumb User Scores. They are meaningless. The only scores that matter are the ones coming from professional gaming critics. Not juvenile kids like yourself.

So do you admit LittleBigPlanet trumps every single Halo and Gears game for this generation? How sad...

I never said that at all. I like LBP. The only Halo games it trumps for me is Halo Wars and Halo ODST. That's about it. Are you saying Mass Effect 2 with a 9.6 rating trumps LittleBigPlanet? lol!! I don't even know why were even discussing Metacritics scores anyway since they don't count here in SW.
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#163 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

One of the best for sure. It's impossible to make everyone agree on THE best though,. 

mems_1224

Exactly. So many great games this gen its impossible to choose.

Yes, it's unfortunate none of those great games are 360 exclusives.

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#164 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] The first 3 Halo games are 9.1 and higher on Metacritic. WTF are you talking about. Stop using dumb User Scores. They are meaningless. The only scores that matter are the ones coming from professional gaming critics. Not juvenile kids like yourself. blackace

So do you admit LittleBigPlanet trumps every single Halo and Gears game for this generation? How sad...

I never said that at all. I like LBP. The only Halo games it trumps for me is Halo Wars and Halo ODST. That's about it. Are you saying Mass Effect 2 with a 9.6 rating trumps LittleBigPlanet? lol!! I don't even know why were even discussing Metacritics scores anyway since they don't count here in SW.

You seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills. In no way was I saying that professional reviews were accurate, which is why I constantly asked you the rhetorical question: "Is LBP better than every single halo and gears game this generation?".

LBP got a 6.6 in user reviews, which is what I would rate the game. Halo 4 might be a mediocre POS, but it's still slightly better than LBP.

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#165 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Is your brain malfunctioning? What does SMG2 have anything to do with Halo 4? Halo 4 is a mediocre CoD-wannabe game with high sales.

Sonysexual1

Halo 1, 2 & 3 were incredible. I don't see your point at all. What does LBP have to do with anything. lol!! You're embarrassing yourself truly. Even your fellow cows are starting to see how lame you point really is. Halo 4 has an 87 score. That's actually pretty great for Metacritic. If you're calling that trash, then every PS3 exclusive with a score of 87 or less is TRASH as well to you.

LBP has a 95 on metacritic, which is higher than every single Gears and Halo game this generation. Don't you find this embarassing?

No, not at all. It's a completely different genre. I wouldn't even compare LBP to a FPS game like Halo. The fact that I own both, makes it even more irrelevant to me. I'm not petty like that.Are you embarrassed that TLOU flopped here on GS? lol!!

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#166 CaseyWegner
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after From Soft?

These guys made 2 monstrous franchises THIS GENERATION ALONE, Uncharted and The Last of Us. No other developer can make such claim other than From Soft who made critical hits Demon's Souls and Dark Souls back to back

-Damien-

bioware - dragon age & mass effect

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#167 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

One of the best for sure. It's impossible to make everyone agree on THE best though,. 

Sonysexual1

Exactly. So many great games this gen its impossible to choose.

Yes, it's unfortunate none of those great games are 360 exclusives.

cool story bro
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#168 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Halo 1, 2 & 3 were incredible. I don't see your point at all. What does LBP have to do with anything. lol!! You're embarrassing yourself truly. Even your fellow cows are starting to see how lame you point really is. Halo 4 has an 87 score. That's actually pretty great for Metacritic. If you're calling that trash, then every PS3 exclusive with a score of 87 or less is TRASH as well to you. blackace

LBP has a 95 on metacritic, which is higher than every single Gears and Halo game this generation. Don't you find this embarassing?

No, not at all. It's a completely different genre. I wouldn't even compare LBP to a FPS game like Halo. The fact that I own both, makes it even more irrelevant to me. I'm not petty like that.Are you embarrassed that TLOU flopped here on GS? lol!!

So you admit professional reviews are irrelevant, yes?

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#169 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

So do you admit LittleBigPlanet trumps every single Halo and Gears game for this generation? How sad...

Sonysexual1

I never said that at all. I like LBP. The only Halo games it trumps for me is Halo Wars and Halo ODST. That's about it. Are you saying Mass Effect 2 with a 9.6 rating trumps LittleBigPlanet? lol!! I don't even know why were even discussing Metacritics scores anyway since they don't count here in SW.

You seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills. In no way was I saying that professional reviews were accurate, which is why I constantly asked you the rhetorical question: "Is LBP better than every single halo and gears game this generation?".

LBP got a 6.6 in user reviews, which is what I would rate the game. Halo 4 might be a mediocre POS, but it's still slightly better than LBP.

Good, my point has been made then. lol!! End of story.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

One of the best for sure. It's impossible to make everyone agree on THE best though,. 

Sonysexual1

Exactly. So many great games this gen its impossible to choose.

Yes, it's unfortunate none of those great games are 360 exclusives.

Gears is dope

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#171 DH1278
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Can't agree on them being 'the top' but definitely top 3. Their games clearly excel above the competition and they take the PS3 and produce more out of it than most of the developers around. I used to think that, why did we need a new gen of consoles a couple of years ago, if only so few devs actually took full advantage of even current tech. Naughty Dog proved to be one of those few devs and can't wait to see what they produce for the PS4.
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#172 heeweesRus
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ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

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#173 FragTycoon
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Asking lems or herms to admit that is like asking them to not be lems or herms...

:P

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#174 uninspiredcup
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ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

heeweesRus
But Valve and Nintendo have higher and more consistent scores.
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#175 mems_1224
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ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

heeweesRus
GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins
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#176 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

uninspiredcup
But Valve and Nintendo have higher and more consistent scores.

Valve's last game (CS:GO) scored an 83. they aren't more consistent
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#177 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

heeweesRus
But Valve and Nintendo have higher and more consistent scores.

Valve's last game (CS:GO) scored an 83. they aren't more consistent

Wasn't developers by Valve. So...
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#178 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

mems_1224

GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Aw yeah forgot about them. I love Godstar to death. Tough pick between them and Naughty Dog for me.

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#179 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

ND is easily the best Dev this gen.

TLOU=95 on MC

UC3=92 

UC2=96

UC1=88

Excellent scores across the board

heeweesRus

GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Aw yeah forgot about them. I love Godstar to death. Tough pick between them and Naughty Dog for me.

Naughty Dog are Godstar's bitch. :cool:
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#180 uninspiredcup
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Team Fortress 2- 92 The Orange Box - 96 Portal - 90 Portal 2 - 95 Portal Still Alive - 90 Halflife 2 - 99.9 Halflife - 96 Halflife 2 - Episode 1 - 90 Halflife 2 - Episode 2 - 90 With strategy, rpg, puzzle, fps and multiplayer, aside from making the highest rated titles around they are also a highly diverse and original developer. Unlike Naughty Dog who ripoff whatever they can get there filthy hands on.
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#181 Rage010101
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Best AI ever = best developer?  YES

happyduds77

Agreed

cockroach standares are laughable at best then :lol:

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#182 ToScA-
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Not to me. I didn't like the Uncharted games. Have yet to play TLOU though.

 Bioware and From Software are my candidates. Valve and Rockstar are up there too.

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#183 Rage010101
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Team Fortress 2- 92 The Orange Box - 96 Portal - 90 Portal 2 - 95 Portal Still Alive - 90 Halflife 2 - 99.9 Halflife - 96 Halflife 2 - Episode 1 - 90 Halflife 2 - Episode 2 - 90 With strategy, rpg, puzzle, fps and multiplayer, aside from making the highest rated titles around they are also a highly diverse and original developer. Unlike Naughty Dog who ripoff whatever they can get there filthy hands on.uninspiredcup

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#184 DH1278
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[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

Best AI ever = best developer?  YES

Rage010101

Agreed

cockroach standares are laughable at best then :lol:

If that's what the OP was hinting at as far as being "the best" then **** no! The AI in the UC and TLoU games is horrendous.

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#185 shadiezz2012
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oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to it
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#186 happyduds77
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]Agreed

DH1278

cockroach standares are laughable at best then :lol:

If that's what the OP was hinting at as far as being "the best" then **** no! The AI in the UC and TLoU games is horrendous.

No, it's very smart. It even outsmarts some of the guys in system wars.
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#187 Armoured_Mage
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id put them top 20 if i was feeling generous.

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#188 Sonysexual1
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id put them top 20 if i was feeling generous.

Armoured_Mage

At least it's not bottom 10 like Microsoft studios.

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#189 heretrix
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I like them, but their game mechanics are a bit rough. They are definitely among the finest this gen, but the best is arguable. They certainly are really good at developing great human characters. The Uncharted cast (all 3 games) are amongst the finest video game characters ever.

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#190 ArisShadows
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I would rank them very high, along side probably Nintendo and Valve.
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#191 faizan_faizan
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oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to itshadiezz2012
close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins
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#192 happyduds77
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to itfaizan_faizan
close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Metacritic? Really?
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#193 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to ithappyduds77
close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Metacritic? Really?

it's not going to be that different here.

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#194 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to ithappyduds77
close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Metacritic? Really?

What else do you expect the people here to use? Gamespot Scores?
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#195 heretrix
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]oh hell yes no doubt but Rockstar and from software are close to ithappyduds77
close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Metacritic? Really?

It really doesn't matter where you go, Rockstar is consistently at the top of their game and they've been doing it for at least a decade. Hell they've been making top quality games even before they became Rockstar.

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#196 heeweesRus
Member since 2012 • 5492 Posts

[QUOTE="happyduds77"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar winsCaseyWegner

Metacritic? Really?

it's not going to be that different here.

It isn't really a fair comparison because of all the internal studios that R* is made out of. R* North, San Diego, Vancouver, Toronto, leeds, etc... You're pretty much comparing a publisher to a single dev.
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#197 heretrix
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"] Metacritic? Really?heeweesRus

it's not going to be that different here.

It isn't really a fair comparison because of all the internal studios that R* is made out of. R* North, San Diego, Vancouver, Toronto, leeds, etc...

Rockstar North alone is still better.

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#198 happyduds77
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="happyduds77"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] close? :lol: GTA4-98 Lost and the Damned-90 Gay Tony-90 Red Dead-95 Undead Nightmare-87 Max Payne 3-87 LA Noire-89 Rockstar wins

Metacritic? Really?

What else do you expect the people here to use? Gamespot Scores?

No. It's subjective. Using other people's opinion as facts is just stupid.
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#199 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's not going to be that different here.

heretrix

It isn't really a fair comparison because of all the internal studios that R* is made out of. R* North, San Diego, Vancouver, Toronto, leeds, etc...

Rockstar North alone is still better.

R* North is excellent, I won't disagree with yah there. WHEN the hell is Agent coming out ? :(
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#200 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]Agreed

DH1278

cockroach standares are laughable at best then :lol:

If that's what the OP was hinting at as far as being "the best" then **** no! The AI in the UC and TLoU games is horrendous.

yeah this sure is bad AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ0ZBGkEUU&hd=1

:roll:

can't wait to see what games you think have better AI

and in few sec i will bring videos that make it AI look dumb as hell