Alan Wake Is The Videogame Equivalent Of A Michael Bay Movie

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I feel like one of the few who actually enjoy Micheal Bay's movies... :?

AAllxxjjnn

Alan Wake is a psychological thriller, laced with suspensful mystery.

If anything, it's Uncharted 2 that's like a Michael Bay movie, with enough bullets flying to restock a munitions shop.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] but this is more laughable tbqhGiancar

More laughable than comparing Alan Wake to a Michael Bay movie?

Uncharted 2 wasn't anywhere near as shallow as a typical Michael Bay Movie but the action scenes were definitely reminiscent to those in his films.

I don't usually doubt Remedy(still haven't played Alan Wake), and I honestly am not going to start now and suddenly think they went all Micheal Bay on me. Call of Duty is micheal bay. God of War is micheal Bay. Gears of War is micheal Bay...but Alan Wake? eh i don't know about that. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] but this is more laughable tbqhGiancar

More laughable than comparing Alan Wake to a Michael Bay movie?

Uncharted 2 wasn't anywhere near as shallow as a typical Michael Bay Movie but the action scenes were definitely reminiscent to those in his films.

Comparing one game's critical acclaim to that of a movie (or a number of movies) is a poor type of comparison.

I'm comparing the content of Uncharted 2 to what you typically get from Michael Bay movies and Uncharted 2's action scenes are highly comparable to those in Michael Bay movies. Copious amounts of explosions, bullets flying, people dying, one liners and so on are plainly visible in both mediums. In fact, Uncharted 2 has much more of it due to its longer length than the average movie. I'm not knocking its pacing or trying to say that it doesn't deserve to be as highly acclaimed as it is (I honestly think it deserves it) but there's no denying how similar it is to Michael Bay movies.

As far as Alan Wake is concerned, it's not even an action game which distances it quite considerably from Michael Bay films.

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I feel like one of the few who actually enjoy Micheal Bay's movies... :?

Hahadouken

I would never buy Pearl Harbor, but not to say I didn't enjoy sitting through it at least once. I liked Armageddon a lot, though. If I wanted a realistic story, I'd watch the news. I watch movies to be entertained, and Micheal Bay does a good job at that. A movie doesn't need a deep story to be good (not to say I don't enjoy a deep story from time to time), so I don't understand the hate Micheal Bay gets.

Uwe Bowl however... :twisted:

Well I haven't played Alan Wake yet, but if what you're saying is true, that would make Alan Wake a terrible game.

Comparing one game's critical acclaim to that of a movie (or a number of movies) is a poor type of comparison.

I'm comparing the content of Uncharted 2 to what you typically get from Michael Bay movies and Uncharted 2's action scenes are highly comparable to those in Michael Bay movies. Copious amounts of explosions, bullets flying, people dying, one liners and so on are plainly visible in both mediums. In fact, Uncharted 2 has much more of it due to its longer length than the average movie. I'm not knocking its pacing or trying to say that it doesn't deserve to be as highly acclaimed as it is (I honestly think it deserves it) but there's no denying how similar it is to Michael Bay movies.

As far as Alan Wake is concerned, it's not even an action game which distances it quite considerably from Michael Bay films.

The_Game21x

Alan Wake is a psychological thriller, laced with suspensful mystery.

If anything, it's Uncharted 2 that's like a Michael Bay movie, with enough bullets flying to restock a munitions shop.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Go watch The Rock right now. Michael Bay was occasionally good once.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Comparing one game's critical acclaim to that of a movie (or a number of movies) is a poor type of comparison.

I'm comparing the content of Uncharted 2 to what you typically get from Michael Bay movies and Uncharted 2's action scenes are highly comparable to those in Michael Bay movies. Copious amounts of explosions, bullets flying, people dying, one liners and so on are plainly visible in both mediums. In fact, Uncharted 2 has much more of it due to its longer length than the average movie. I'm not knocking its pacing or trying to say that it doesn't deserve to be as highly acclaimed as it is (I honestly think it deserves it) but there's no denying how similar it is to Michael Bay movies.

As far as Alan Wake is concerned, it's not even an action game which distances it quite considerably from Michael Bay films.

Giancar

I'm comparing the two on just about the only thing that I can compare between them. The action scenes. You can't compare graphics, gameplay or MP to movies. Pacing is something that I already commented on and Uncharted 2 undoubtedly does better.

In terms of action scenes, Uncharted 2 is very similar.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I don't usually doubt Remedy(still haven't played Alan Wake), and I honestly am not going to start now and suddenly think they went all Micheal Bay on me. Call of Duty is micheal bay. God of War is micheal Bay. Gears of War is micheal Bay...but Alan Wake? eh i don't know about that. Giancar

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]I'm comparing the two on just about the only thing that I can compare between them. The action scenes. You can't compare graphics, gameplay or MP to movies. Pacing is something that I already commented on and Uncharted 2 undoubtedly does better. In terms of action scenes, Uncharted 2 is very similar.Giancar

Yes, and the thread is based on a deeply flawed premise. Games do not equivocate to movies in any more than a couple of ways, making most comparisons between them, including the one this thread is based on, inherently flawed.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Go watch The Rock right now. Michael Bay was occasionally good once.InsaneBasura

I like Micheal Bay's older movies, but I don't like his newer ones, and I regret seeing Pearl Harbor.

And I doubt Alan Wake is like his newer movies, at least quality wise.

if alan wake is a micheal bay movie, then what does that make gears of war , halo and CoD. you lack logicAndrovinus

They are all bay-like games to me. I put them in the same category. though Alan Wake is closer to the 'the rock' level of quality, gears and halo are transformers, and COD is pearl harbor.

In the end they're all pretty shallow, though Alan Wake (just like the rock) is a notch above the rest

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I feel like one of the few who actually enjoy Micheal Bay's movies... :?

JuarN18

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people seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not calling Alan Wake bay-esque because it has explosions every five seconds. I'm saying its the equivalent of a bay film because it doesnt strive to be anything more than it is, which is a summer blockbuster type of souless experience

Completely wrong.

Michael bay movie?

Really?

Absolutely not.

It doesn't have terrible writing.

It doesn't have baysplotions.

It doesn't have weak characters who feel like they have a higher purpose.

No baysplotions

Animal-Mother

It had one "bay" mement, [spoiler] The rock stage scene. [/spoiler]

And I always laughed when the Sheriff told the take to freeze!

Ummm haven't played it.... but I voted...

for that option.

There's simply no way it could be that bad.... Transformers is the best thing Michael Bay ever did, and the first one was an at BEST kind of entertaining fun movie, while the second was just disgusting crap...

A story driven game with decent review scores shouldn't be nearly as bad.

people seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not calling Alan Wake bay-esque because it has explosions every five seconds. I'm saying its the equivalent of a bay film because it doesnt strive to be anything more than it is, which is a summer blockbuster type of souless experience

Boogie_J

Just how is Alan Wake "soulless"? It had a fantastically crafted story, advanced by complelling characters and atmospheric art direction. The tale had plenty of twists in its direction, so it never went in a straight line. The entire world of Bright Falls was meticulously rendered, bringing to life a believable and authentic small town atmosphere, along with the richly created forests that completely pulls the player into the experience.

Alan Wake "soulless"? I don't think so.

I think you confused Alan Wake with Gears of War.

I haven't played Alan Wake yet (waiting for my copy to come in the mail), I doubt it is bad as bad as a Michael Bay movie though.

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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

Heavy Rain is the video game equivalent of a mystery cliche.

SgtKevali

Not exactly a bad thing.

I felt that a lot of stuff that occured within Heavy Rain had no purpose. I really enjoyed it the first time around because the devs certainly got atmosphere and acting down right, but looking back on it my opinion has changed.

All action and cheap thrills, but in the end a very shallow experience.

Just beat it. Good game, but something is keeping it from being great. I felt it was missing something, but I didnt know what at the time. After thinking about it for a while I realized what it lacked: subtlety. This game is one set-piece after another. It's so meticulously placed and in-your-face I can almost hear the devs behind me saying 'isn't this cool?! oh my god did you see that?'. This is a game I would have loved back in my early teens, but now I just wish games would strive to be more than just the videogame equivalent of a popcorn-summer-blockbuster-flick. Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.

It's a shame. The tech behind this game is incredibly impressive, and the game is very immersive..

Boogie_J

I hate to badmouth Uncharted 2 as it is without question one of the best games this gen, but to me, with the exception of the "it was missing something/shallow experience" part, you're describing Uncharted 2 (I can't play Alan Wake, so I can't comment on that). Uncharted 2 has a fairly shallow popcorn movie sort of plot with fairly generic characters and its forward momentum is mostly achieved with constant thrills, exciting level design and awesome high octane set-pieces, not a bad thing at all in a video game, which is why UC2 is one of the best this gen despite the fact that it doesn't do anything very interesting or subtle story-wise.

What I am saying by bringing UC2 into this is that a game doesn't exactly need subtlety or anything more than a popcorn-summer-blockbuster sort of plot to be excellent as UC2 proves.

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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not exactly a bad thing.

hakanakumono

I felt that a lot of stuff that occured within Heavy Rain had no purpose. I really enjoyed it the first time around because the devs certainly got atmosphere and acting down right, but looking back on it my opinion has changed.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

jg4xchamp

I felt that a lot of stuff that occured within Heavy Rain had no purpose. I really enjoyed it the first time around because the devs certainly got atmosphere and acting down right, but looking back on it my opinion has changed.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I felt that a lot of stuff that occured within Heavy Rain had no purpose. I really enjoyed it the first time around because the devs certainly got atmosphere and acting down right, but looking back on it my opinion has changed.

jasonharris48

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] same initial playthrough tthe game leaves a good impression. Really good impression. On multiple playthroughs it loses that luster a bit, and the annoyances with the plot stick out more. Arach666

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] That's how I felt after my second playthrough. I didn't bother trying to get 100% anymore.

jg4xchamp

I think thats a huge insult towards the game and a huge praise for Mr. Bay which he doesn't deserve. :P

Completely wrong.

Michael bay movie?

Really?

Absolutely not.

It doesn't have terrible writing.

It doesn't have baysplotions.

It doesn't have weak characters who feel like they have a higher purpose.

No baysplotions

Animal-Mother

Completely wrong.

Michael bay movie?

Really?

Absolutely not.

It doesn't have terrible writing.

It doesn't have baysplotions.

It doesn't have weak characters who feel like they have a higher purpose.

No baysplotions

Animal-Mother

Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.Boogie_J

All action and cheap thrills, but in the end a very shallow experience.

Just beat it. Good game, but something is keeping it from being great. I felt it was missing something, but I didnt know what at the time. After thinking about it for a while I realized what it lacked: subtlety. This game is one set-piece after another. It's so meticulously placed and in-your-face I can almost hear the devs behind me saying 'isn't this cool?! oh my god did you see that?'. This is a game I would have loved back in my early teens, but now I just wish games would strive to be more than just the videogame equivalent of a popcorn-summer-blockbuster-flick. Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.

It's a shame. The tech behind this game is incredibly impressive, and the game is very immersive..

Boogie_J

Yeah, the game looks try hard, even more so than Heavy Rain. That's saying a lot.

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.Salt_The_Fries

funny you mention throbbing gritstle. I was just listening to the second annual report

I really want to play this game with opinions being so polarized.

I feel the exact opposite, it reminds me of aindepedent or foregin movie.. not a micheal bay movie.

A videogame that is like a Bay movie would be Halo or Mario imo

All action and cheap thrills, but in the end a very shallow experience.

Just beat it. Good game, but something is keeping it from being great. I felt it was missing something, but I didnt know what at the time. After thinking about it for a while I realized what it lacked: subtlety. This game is one set-piece after another. It's so meticulously placed and in-your-face I can almost hear the devs behind me saying 'isn't this cool?! oh my god did you see that?'. This is a game I would have loved back in my early teens, but now I just wish games would strive to be more than just the videogame equivalent of a popcorn-summer-blockbuster-flick. Alan Wake is one of the many examples of why games havent achieved art yet.

It's a shame. The tech behind this game is incredibly impressive, and the game is very immersive..

Boogie_J

It is the exact opposite of cheap thrills used by all video games like Siren, all japanese horror and resident evil ones

And is missing the DLC

And you really expect a game to go ABOVE the best movies in story ??????????????? Well, you expect too much, especially since games like MGS4 and FF13 that are supposdly heavy on movie side, offer some of the most cheesy and laughable stories ever created, the excecution is also out of this world bad, or worst

Comparing to those, Alan Wake did come the closest to a movie experience that could be, given it is a game, and not striving to best all movies on the planet

BTW, Alan Wake is pure art, the atmosphere, world, story are better than 99% of those usually crappy movies out there

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Completely wrong.

Michael bay movie?

Really?

Absolutely not.

It doesn't have terrible writing.

It doesn't have baysplotions.

It doesn't have weak characters who feel like they have a higher purpose.

No baysplotions

stiggy321