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If the footage we have seen thus far is any indication; AA. The gameplay looks way too simplistic, the enemy design isn't inspiring in the least, and the atmosphere seems pretty defunct for a psychological thriller. Vandalvideo
So, if everything looks bad for you why are you hyping it AA (great)?
I want to play this game so bad. Need to get a 360 first.lusitanogamerYou can get an Arcade for $200 and than use any USB for game saves...very cheap.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]If the footage we have seen thus far is any indication; AA. The gameplay looks way too simplistic, the enemy design isn't inspiring in the least, and the atmosphere seems pretty defunct for a psychological thriller. PAL360
So, if everything looks bad for you why are you hyping it AA (great)?
Because reviewers nowadays seem to be willing to give high production values the benefit of the doubt when it comes to reviews. Even when a game fails on everything it sets out to be t hey still give it a decent score.[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]If the footage we have seen thus far is any indication; AA. The gameplay looks way too simplistic, the enemy design isn't inspiring in the least, and the atmosphere seems pretty defunct for a psychological thriller. Vandalvideo
So, if everything looks bad for you why are you hyping it AA (great)?
Because reviewers nowadays seem to be willing to give high production values the benefit of the doubt when it comes to reviews. Even when a game fails on everything it sets out to be t hey still give it a decent score.I desagree. Reviewers have been giving very low scores to some big names like Halo Wars for example
Anyway, going by gameplay vids, AW looks an awesome game in my opinion
[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I want to play this game so bad. Need to get a 360 first.BURSTIIIFIREYou can get an Arcade for $200 and than use any USB for game saves...very cheap. Thanks for the suggestion, but i'm probably getting an Elite next month when this game comes out. Although cheaper, i'm not really interested in the Arcade.
I desagree. Reviewers have been giving very low scores to some big names like Halo Wars for exampleAnyway, going by gameplay vids, AW looks an awesome game in my opinionPAL360One need look no further than FF13 for evidence of the view that I'm espousing. The game was a mess gameplay wise. The pacing was horrible, the progression was far too simple, and the design itself was extraordinarily linear. Had I finished the game I would have more than likely given it a 7.0 or 7.5 at the most. The game was largely saved by the production values. Also, I'm not sure what gameplay you're looking at. All the gameplay I've seen has been incredibly boring. Shambling construction workers and inanimate objects =/= suspenseful or compelling.
You got to be kidding me, this picture shows the true graphic powers of the Xbox 360 which is made by the godly Microsoft. All other games EVEN CRYSIS does compare to this NEXT GEN title. Alan Wake will have it all big enviroments, Raw Jackets and even more trees than Fable 2. Look at the other graphics from Kz2, UC2 and Crysis they dont even compare to the holyness that is Alan Wake.
Killzone 2 looks like crap compared to Alan Wake
Even the ass of Chloe cant compare to Alan Wakes superior graphics
Look at all the jaggies on the trees, atleast Alan Wake has no jaggies because of the X360 superior graphics card
once again this can not be stressed enough alan wake WILL BE 2010 GRAPHICS KING!
It was always in HD.:P Honestly, being a cow, im not going to hold the games resolution against it. 540p, 1080p, whatever, it does not look CLOSE to God of War 3, or Uncharted 2, and only marginally similar to Killzone 2.[QUOTE="aia89"]
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=57213&page=6
what the hell? now it's HD again? lol!
mitu123
[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]^^^No one finds a low level fanboy with a wall of text and emoticons worth arguing with.speaker48I didnt ask anyone to argue me lol, I just asked someone to tell me what Alan Wake does graphically that is so godly :lol:. Unlike lemmings, I actually went out of my way to inform them on what the PS3 titles actually do technically that make them significant. It seems lemmings cannot do that. They always have to have SOMETHING to match whatever sony has lol. Sony had MGS this gen, but no......Splinter Cell was the "real" stealh game, MGS was an action movie dumbed down for the casual masses (which ubisoft restarted their project from scratch to follow this same formula but failed :lol: ) Then, sony has Gran Turismo, but no......Forza 3 HAS to be the definitive racing title Then sony had God of War.......But no, Ninja Gaiden had to be the definitive hack and slash (there were extremely heated debates in the pre-NG2 days lol, same with MGS4 and Splinter Cell Conviction) They always have to counter sony every chance they get. The only instance of this EVER happening with cows was Killzone being called the "halo killer", a name which was NEVER even started by cows lol. Now, lemmings are simpily desperate to cling to whatever they can to reclaim the console graphics king title (a battle which THEY rabidly started with Gears lol). This is evident with their recent fondness of Crysis 2 (until they revealed the PS3 version was superior, then it didnt matter anymore) God, lemmings can never just let cows have something lol. The sad part is a lot of what he is saying is true. But, also he doesn't seem to understand that this goes BOTH ways for Xbox and Playstation fanboys.. I'd like to see speaker48 and another random lemming duel it out in a super battle so I can laugh.... a lot.
[QUOTE="mitu123"]It was always in HD.:P Honestly, being a cow, im not going to hold the games resolution against it. 540p, 1080p, whatever, it does not look CLOSE to God of War 3, or Uncharted 2, and only marginally similar to Killzone 2. Finally, a certain fanboy who says it's on par with Killzone 2.[QUOTE="aia89"]
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=57213&page=6
what the hell? now it's HD again? lol!
speaker48
I predict a 9.0 Anyway I hope it is a good game because this may finally be the reason I purchase a 360.
^^^No one finds a low level fanboy with a wall of text and emoticons worth arguing with.SpiritOfFire117I've seen people argue with low level fanboys before, i just think people can't counter his statements.
lol, noone seems to be able to answer my question it seemsspeaker48
Not every game has to do what Uncharted 2 does to be good. I'm going to play Alan Wake for its dark, brooding atmosphere and well paced story. You're listening too much to fakeboys here. Why can't we just enjoy the game for what it is?
The game is 540p. It is a fact. I am getting a little tired of these bullshots keep posted. The shots at beyond3d have 8xAA sampling at least.
nhh18
It won't matter if it has slightly less pixels. I've seen many gameplay videos and Alan Wake looks beautiful. Graphics King? No, but it's still far, far from ugly.
[QUOTE="nhh18"]
The game is 540p. It is a fact. I am getting a little tired of these bullshots keep posted. The shots at beyond3d have 8xAA sampling at least.
SpinoRaptor24
It won't matter if it has slightly less pixels. I've seen many gameplay videos and Alan Wake looks beautiful. Graphics King? No, but it's still far, far from ugly.
So they traded some resolution to have 4xMSAA so be it. KZ2=QAA whicis about2xMSAA....UC2=2xAA..I wonder why they dont run with 2x the AA like AW? Mabey to keep the rez up?[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]
[QUOTE="nhh18"]
The game is 540p. It is a fact. I am getting a little tired of these bullshots keep posted. The shots at beyond3d have 8xAA sampling at least.
vaderhater
It won't matter if it has slightly less pixels. I've seen many gameplay videos and Alan Wake looks beautiful. Graphics King? No, but it's still far, far from ugly.
So they traded some resolution to have 4xMSAA so be it. KZ2=QAA whicis about2xMSAA....UC2=2xAA..I wonder why they dont run with 2x the AA like AW? Mabey to keep the rez up? yet games like God of War 3 can have MLAA which mimics 16x MSAA , aka the most technically advanced anti aliasing system ever put onto consoles, and STILL be 720p ;) While at the same time using 2500 x 2500 textures on its character models (most games use 125 x125 or 250x 250), and having the most detailed character model put onto consoles, and processing realistic real time flesh wounds (again, superior tech to any console game previously released). All I've seen of alan wake's physics is a storm blowing some trash cans around (low res low poly trash cans lol) and alan wake running around with a flash light in the dark with NOTHING going on. Im still hard pressed to find this game better looking than MGS4 (an extremely underrated game around here for its visuals, it didnt win all those best graphics awards for nothing lol)yet games like God of War 3 can have MLAA which mimics 16x MSAA , aka the most technically advanced anti aliasing system ever put onto consoles, and STILL be 720p ;) While at the same time using 2500 x 2500 textures on its character models (most games use 125 x125 or 250x 250), and having the most detailed character model put onto consoles, and processing realistic real time flesh wounds (again, superior tech to any console game previously released). All I've seen of alan wake's physics is a storm blowing some trash cans around (low res low poly trash cans lol) and alan wake running around with a flash light in the dark with NOTHING going on. Im still hard pressed to find this game better looking than MGS4 (an extremely underrated game around here for its visuals, it didnt win all those best graphics awards for nothing lol)speaker48
That's because Alan Wake and GOW3 are two completely different games, developed by two completely different developers on two completely different consoles.Alan Wake is a psychological action thriller. I don't expect behemoths walking around in the background. AW is driven by its story and narrative, while GOW3 is driven by its combat.
Until I see 1280x720 or 960x540 in this link, it's all speculation. Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.[QUOTE="nhh18"]
The game is 540p. It is a fact. I am getting a little tired of these bullshots keep posted. The shots at beyond3d have 8xAA sampling at least.
mitu123
[QUOTE="mitu123"]Until I see 1280x720 or 960x540 in this link, it's all speculation. Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.Why not just let it go then? MGS4 never got knocked because of its resolution by the vast majority general gaming public (read not fanboy types on internet) or by reviewers for that matter. How is it any different with this one game? Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters. What does not matter are the feelings of a few butt hurt fanboys who expected this gen to automatically like the one the PS2 had. Arrogant really.[QUOTE="nhh18"]
The game is 540p. It is a fact. I am getting a little tired of these bullshots keep posted. The shots at beyond3d have 8xAA sampling at least.
Brownesque
[QUOTE="speaker48"] yet games like God of War 3 can have MLAA which mimics 16x MSAA , aka the most technically advanced anti aliasing system ever put onto consoles, and STILL be 720p ;) While at the same time using 2500 x 2500 textures on its character models (most games use 125 x125 or 250x 250), and having the most detailed character model put onto consoles, and processing realistic real time flesh wounds (again, superior tech to any console game previously released). All I've seen of alan wake's physics is a storm blowing some trash cans around (low res low poly trash cans lol) and alan wake running around with a flash light in the dark with NOTHING going on. Im still hard pressed to find this game better looking than MGS4 (an extremely underrated game around here for its visuals, it didnt win all those best graphics awards for nothing lol)SpinoRaptor24
That's because Alan Wake and GOW3 are two completely different games, developed by two completely different developers on two completely different consoles.Alan Wake is a psychological action thriller. I don't expect behemoths walking around in the background. AW is driven by its story and narrative, while GOW3 is driven by its combat.
OHHH, so now the game type effects the graphic ability of the game? if anything AW is a much smaller scale than GOW3 soo yeah. haha ur like AW is an psychological thriller!! but GOW3 is just combat... lol fail logic is fail[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters.speaker48lol wut? Uncharted 2 hit the 3.5m mark like 3 months ago, most liky 4M by now. And as for killzone 2, your precious Mass effect (neither the first nor the second) managed to outdo killzone 2 :roll: where hyping this game on sales now lemmings? :lol: god lemmings need to loose this "every 360 exclusive sells 5 million " dillusion lol. Honestly I can see this game selling 2 mil. If the mass effect's , the forzas, and the fables can't do it, stop acting like this niche new IP is gonna do like 2 million day one lol Um...Mass Effect 2 sold 2.5 million 2 months ago...chances are it's over 3 million now. Killzone is barly over 2 million FYI. Chances are you and 90% of cows have never played Killzone 2 :|
[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="speaker48"] yet games like God of War 3 can have MLAA which mimics 16x MSAA , aka the most technically advanced anti aliasing system ever put onto consoles, and STILL be 720p ;) While at the same time using 2500 x 2500 textures on its character models (most games use 125 x125 or 250x 250), and having the most detailed character model put onto consoles, and processing realistic real time flesh wounds (again, superior tech to any console game previously released). All I've seen of alan wake's physics is a storm blowing some trash cans around (low res low poly trash cans lol) and alan wake running around with a flash light in the dark with NOTHING going on. Im still hard pressed to find this game better looking than MGS4 (an extremely underrated game around here for its visuals, it didnt win all those best graphics awards for nothing lol)KevinButlerVP
That's because Alan Wake and GOW3 are two completely different games, developed by two completely different developers on two completely different consoles.Alan Wake is a psychological action thriller. I don't expect behemoths walking around in the background. AW is driven by its story and narrative, while GOW3 is driven by its combat.
OHHH, so now the game type effects the graphic ability of the game? if anything AW is a much smaller scale than GOW3 soo yeah. haha ur like AW is an psychological thriller!! but GOW3 is just combat... lol fail logic is failhuh?
Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.Why not just let it go then? MGS4 never got knocked because of its resolution by the vast majority general gaming public (read not fanboy types on internet) or by reviewers for that matter. How is it any different with this one game? Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters. What does not matter are the feelings of a few butt hurt fanboys who expected this gen to automatically like the one the PS2 had. Arrogant really. MGS4 was knocked by lemmings, just as AW is being knocked by cows. Nothing new. And why are you moving to sales now (even though I don't think it'll outsell either). running out of arguments about the game itself? Kinda sad really, AW is looking like a wonderful game and you stooping to that low just gives cows more ammuntion and hope.[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Until I see 1280x720 or 960x540 in this link, it's all speculation.
vaderhater
Why not just let it go then? MGS4 never got knocked because of its resolution by the vast majority general gaming public (read not fanboy types on internet) or by reviewers for that matter. How is it any different with this one game? Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters. What does not matter are the feelings of a few butt hurt fanboys who expected this gen to automatically like the one the PS2 had. Arrogant really. MGS4 was knocked by lemmings, just as AW is being knocked by cows. Nothing new. And why are you moving to sales now (even though I don't think it'll outsell either). running out of arguments about the game itself? Kinda sad really, AW is looking like a wonderful game and you stooping to that low just gives cows more ammuntion and hope.MGS4 runs at 300,000 pixels more than alan wake. And we have to compare it because vaderhater is easily giving people ammunition. The fact that alan wake is running at sdtv level and his hopes and dreams are crushed is quite an emotional trauma.[QUOTE="vaderhater"]
[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.Chutebox
[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="speaker48"] yet games like God of War 3 can have MLAA which mimics 16x MSAA , aka the most technically advanced anti aliasing system ever put onto consoles, and STILL be 720p ;) While at the same time using 2500 x 2500 textures on its character models (most games use 125 x125 or 250x 250), and having the most detailed character model put onto consoles, and processing realistic real time flesh wounds (again, superior tech to any console game previously released). All I've seen of alan wake's physics is a storm blowing some trash cans around (low res low poly trash cans lol) and alan wake running around with a flash light in the dark with NOTHING going on. Im still hard pressed to find this game better looking than MGS4 (an extremely underrated game around here for its visuals, it didnt win all those best graphics awards for nothing lol)KevinButlerVP
That's because Alan Wake and GOW3 are two completely different games, developed by two completely different developers on two completely different consoles.Alan Wake is a psychological action thriller. I don't expect behemoths walking around in the background. AW is driven by its story and narrative, while GOW3 is driven by its combat.
OHHH, so now the game type effects the graphic ability of the game? if anything AW is a much smaller scale than GOW3 soo yeah. haha ur like AW is an psychological thriller!! but GOW3 is just combat... lol fail logic is failI mentioned many other factors (which you chose to ignore).
Again, I stated that GOW3 and AW are vastly different games.
Sure looks better than MGS4... So it still could get a perfect score, but my hype is 9.5. All lose .5 for no multiplayer, but will score great on everything else. Phazevariance
There are five huge differences with MGS4
1. Alan Wake is not on a10 feet path, it is a huge world during the day at least, where you get a car to move around
2. No coriddor that ends and no loading in that end every 5 minutes like in MGS4
3. The lighting is 100% real time, so all shadows, the light from the sun move and change during the day all in real time
4. it has some stunning particle and physics effects
5. Forests are IN the game, something you can visit, not only a backdrop to look at from your narrow path
[QUOTE="CMPunk13"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]I know lems have this hyped as AAA but I have a feeling this is going to megaflop with an 8.5blue_hazy_basic
8.5 is a megaflop? :lol: Poor bastard. Doesn't even realize how low on the totem pole GS is.
This has been hyped through the roof by lems, so yes it would be a huge flop in SW, maybe you don't understand how it works ;) its not hyped any more than heavy rain was and that was considered a minor flop by the cows[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="CMPunk13"]This has been hyped through the roof by lems, so yes it would be a huge flop in SW, maybe you don't understand how it works ;) its not hyped any more than heavy rain was and that was considered a minor flop by the cows No its definitely hyped more than HR, this is one of those titles to give the 360 a victory in 2010.8.5 is a megaflop? :lol: Poor bastard. Doesn't even realize how low on the totem pole GS is.
Vinegar_Strokes
Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.Why not just let it go then? MGS4 never got knocked because of its resolution by the vast majority general gaming public (read not fanboy types on internet) or by reviewers for that matter. How is it any different with this one game? Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters. What does not matter are the feelings of a few butt hurt fanboys who expected this gen to automatically like the one the PS2 had. Arrogant really. When in doubt, move to sales?[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Until I see 1280x720 or 960x540 in this link, it's all speculation.
vaderhater
Who do you think is the source of that thread? Quaz51. Quaz51 just said Alan Wake is 540p. Perhaps your trust is misplaced if you expect that thread to say anything other than 960x540.Why not just let it go then? MGS4 never got knocked because of its resolution by the vast majority general gaming public (read not fanboy types on internet) or by reviewers for that matter. How is it any different with this one game? Chances are it will sell more than either of your two gifts from god UC2 and KZ2 and that is what matters. What does not matter are the feelings of a few butt hurt fanboys who expected this gen to automatically like the one the PS2 had. Arrogant really.So you go from the graphics card to the sales card now?:( What if the game is bad(which im hoping its not),then all those sales will be for nothing. I seriously doubt anybody cares if it outsells UC2 and KZ2 except some ignorant fanboys. People just need to hope the gameplay is good and quit worrying so much about graphics and sales.[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Until I see 1280x720 or 960x540 in this link, it's all speculation.
vaderhater
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