ALL READ. Is there a such word as "Console Exclusive".

Caseywagner

"not if there's an arcade version. it would have to be called "console exclusive" and we know how most cows feel about that term."

Of course that word doesn't exist. You want to know why?

Because that's TWO words .

Seems kinda logical , eh?;)

if it were console wars than gears would be exclusive, however its SYSTEM wars so gears of war is not exclusive, system includes everything, consoles, PC´s, Cellphones, you, digital tic-tac-toe´s you name itstika

I agree, if I can play the game on something else its not exclusive

Gears

Bioshock

NGS

Tekken6

all not exclusive

i am and am not ok with "console exclusive" depending on if it does or doesnt support my opinion at the time...frankeyser

LOL your perfect for System Wars

[QUOTE="stika"]if it were console wars than gears would be exclusive, however its SYSTEM wars so gears of war is not exclusive, system includes everything, consoles, PC´s, Cellphones, you, digital tic-tac-toe´s you name itonewiththegame

I agree, if I can play the game on something else its not exclusive

Gears

Bioshock

NGS

Tekken6

all not exclusive

Yes in the big picture they are not, but when you are comparing console to consoles you can't get gears for PS3. So I think that someone should put in effect that you can use that statement when doing so.

and can it be used to compare games between the 360, PS3, and Wii? When having discussions between just consoles, is it possible to use this term? Or do we have no choice but to abandon this word because of the PC? I believe when comparing "consoles" you have the right to say "gears of war is console exclusive because you can only get it on the 360 and not on the Wii or PS3." Please discuss. I would Like Casey to get involved as well because he made this statement in another thread

Caseywagner

"not if there's an arcade version. it would have to be called "console exclusive" and we know how most cows feel about that term.

xscrapzx

what are you doing? :|

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]and can it be used to compare games between the 360, PS3, and Wii? When having discussions between just consoles, is it possible to use this term? Or do we have no choice but to abandon this word because of the PC? I believe when comparing "consoles" you have the right to say "gears of war is console exclusive because you can only get it on the 360 and not on the Wii or PS3." Please discuss. I would Like Casey to get involved as well because he made this statement in another thread

Caseywagner

"not if there's an arcade version. it would have to be called "console exclusive" and we know how most cows feel about that term.

CaseyWegner

what are you doing? :|

I misunderstood your post before I checked back and noticed that you replied to it. I then did not how to edit the thread, so I corrected myself in this thread, if you look up the page it is in one of my replies that I misunderstood you and not take that quote in context. I thought by that quote you were saying that it is ok to use that statement Console Exclusive. Thats why I made this thread. I'm sorry by not understanding you thoroughly I should of waited for you to reply in the other thread.

They need a console wars. PC's should be excluded because most games on PC are made by MS any way.casey7672

if u do a direct comparison of 2 systems or 2 consoles yes a console exclusive counts for that debate but not in the overall grand scheme of things.

Console exclusives are enough of a reason to purchase a 360 over a PS3 or Wii so long as you dont have a PC. If u have a PC then gears, bioshock mean nothing to you, because they are on your system anyway.

Overall debates and the forums whole purpose no, console exclusives dont count.

If you compare consoles directly (such as 360 vs PS3) yes they count.

Gears, Bioshock, Viva Pinata, Lost Planet, Alan Wake, etc are not on 360.

Just like big multiplats are a positive for 360 and PS3 but a negative for wii.

Since wii doesnt get Call of Duty 4, the darkness, assassins Creed, unreal 3, etc its a negative against the system.

[QUOTE="stika"]if it were console wars than gears would be exclusive, however its SYSTEM wars so gears of war is not exclusive, system includes everything, consoles, PC´s, Cellphones, you, digital tic-tac-toe´s you name itonewiththegame

I agree, if I can play the game on something else its not exclusive

Gears

Bioshock

NGS

Tekken6

all not exclusive

Arcade and PC or consoles are different things to me. I can understand why a game on PC makes the game not exclusive because gamers can go to the store buy the game and play the game at home with the one time purchase of the game being the only time you get charged. But Arcade is completely different. Arcades are not as common in the U.S. as they once were before systems caught up graphics wise. But lets say you finally find an arcade, that means you have to drive to it everytime you wanna play it and pay 50-75 cents each time to play the game. Not even close to the same experience.

I mean with that logic then Halo 3 is not exclusive to the 360 even thought I dont own one because all I have to do is drive over to my friends house and Play Halo for free. Arcades are not the same thing as console games, most lack many game features that some argued made GRAW exclusive for the 360 even though its on the PS2 and PC.

I read Casey's opinion and I strongly disagree. Arcades are not the same gaming experience as home gaming which is why they have become rare while video games are sold in pretty much every store.

They need a console wars. PC's should be excluded because most games on PC are made by MS any way.casey7672

And no, there are no console exclusives in SW. It's ridiculous far-fetched term and means nothing.

They need a console wars. PC's should be excluded because most games on PC are made by MS any way.casey7672

lol what?

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="stika"]if it were console wars than gears would be exclusive, however its SYSTEM wars so gears of war is not exclusive, system includes everything, consoles, PC´s, Cellphones, you, digital tic-tac-toe´s you name itJavy03

I agree, if I can play the game on something else its not exclusive

Gears

Bioshock

NGS

Tekken6

all not exclusive

Arcade and PC or consoles are different things to me. I can understand why a game on PC makes the game not exclusive because gamers can go to the store buy the game and play the game at home with the one time purchase of the game being the only time you get charged. But Arcade is completely different. Arcades are not as common in the U.S. as they once were before systems caught up graphics wise. But lets say you finally find an arcade, that means you have to drive to it everytime you wanna play it and pay 50-75 cents each time to play the game. Not even close to the same experience.

I mean with that logic then Halo 3 is not exclusive to the 360 even thought I dont own one because all I have to do is drive over to my friends house and Play Halo for free. Arcades are not the same thing as console games, most lack many game features that some argued made GRAW exclusive for the 360 even though its on the PS2 and PC.

I read Casey's opinion and I strongly disagree. Arcades are not the same gaming experience as home gaming which is why they have become rare while video games are sold in pretty much every store.

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="stika"]if it were console wars than gears would be exclusive, however its SYSTEM wars so gears of war is not exclusive, system includes everything, consoles, PC´s, Cellphones, you, digital tic-tac-toe´s you name itPanzer_Zwei

I agree, if I can play the game on something else its not exclusive

Gears

Bioshock

NGS

Tekken6

all not exclusive

Arcade and PC or consoles are different things to me. I can understand why a game on PC makes the game not exclusive because gamers can go to the store buy the game and play the game at home with the one time purchase of the game being the only time you get charged. But Arcade is completely different. Arcades are not as common in the U.S. as they once were before systems caught up graphics wise. But lets say you finally find an arcade, that means you have to drive to it everytime you wanna play it and pay 50-75 cents each time to play the game. Not even close to the same experience.

I mean with that logic then Halo 3 is not exclusive to the 360 even thought I dont own one because all I have to do is drive over to my friends house and Play Halo for free. Arcades are not the same thing as console games, most lack many game features that some argued made GRAW exclusive for the 360 even though its on the PS2 and PC.

I read Casey's opinion and I strongly disagree. Arcades are not the same gaming experience as home gaming which is why they have become rare while video games are sold in pretty much every store.

I was about to say that

anyways if the game can be played on more than one system its not exclusive

thats its, no exceptions

Like I've said before, I don't think arcade games should count.

There are no reviews for arcade and therefor, no way to determine what is AAAE or AAE or whatever.


If GEoW gets 8.5 on the PC, will it not be a AAAE for the 360?

you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.CaseyWegner

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

I was about to say that

anyways if the game can be played on more than one system its not exclusive

thats its, no exceptions

onewiththegame

I mean, if an Arcade game comes out, but it has added features, like online on consoles and it gets AAA, I don't see why shouldn't it count.

Also for multi-plats. If a game gets AAA in a console, and later gets ported to another and doesn't score AAA, (or vice versa) it just seems unfair to me, that it loses it's AAA counting status.

to casey:

I see what you mean, but is the xbox 360 really going against the pc? As you can see the majority of pc games are on the x360 also. But thats because Microsoft owns both the PC and the 360.... so why would a console be against a system that is made by the same company...

Like I've said before, I don't think arcade games should count.

There are no reviews for arcade and therefor, no way to determine what is AAAE or AAE or whatever.


If GEoW gets 8.5 on the PC, will it not be a AAAE for the 360?

DireToad

we've never considered a game a AAAE just because another version of it scored below a nine. if we did that then things like halo, halo 2, and kotor would have been xbox AAAEs.

to casey:

I see what you mean, but is the xbox 360 really going against the pc? As you can see the majority of pc games are on the x360 also. But thats because Microsoft owns both the PC and the 360.... so why would a console be against a system that is made by the same company...

haris12121212

to casey:

I see what you mean, but is the xbox 360 really going against the pc? As you can see the majority of pc games are on the x360 also. But thats because Microsoft owns both the PC and the 360.... so why would a console be against a system that is made by the same company...

haris12121212

can somebody else take this one for me? i'm so tired of explaining it. :(

to casey:

I see what you mean, but is the xbox 360 really going against the pc? As you can see the majority of pc games are on the x360 also. But thats because Microsoft owns both the PC and the 360.... so why would a console be against a system that is made by the same company...

haris12121212

the PC has 7 times the amount of exclusives as the the 360 in the same time period....clearly MS does not own PC gaming.

[QUOTE="DireToad"]

Like I've said before, I don't think arcade games should count.

There are no reviews for arcade and therefor, no way to determine what is AAAE or AAE or whatever.


If GEoW gets 8.5 on the PC, will it not be a AAAE for the 360?

CaseyWegner

we've never considered a game a AAAE just because another version of it scored below a nine. if we did that then things like halo, halo 2, and kotor would have been xbox AAAEs.

to casey:

I see what you mean, but is the xbox 360 really going against the pc? As you can see the majority of pc games are on the x360 also. But thats because Microsoft owns both the PC and the 360.... so why would a console be against a system that is made by the same company...

haris12121212

PCs aren't made by Microsoft. PC games can be played via other operating systems. Linux and MacOSX in particular.

And yes, if the availability of some of these games being on PC is keeping PC owners from buying 360s, the 360 is indeed competing with the PC.

But I still disagree with Casey on the issue in general. No need to reiterrate that again.

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I was about to say that

anyways if the game can be played on more than one system its not exclusive

thats its, no exceptions

Panzer_Zwei

I mean, if an Arcade game comes out, but it has added features, like online on consoles and it gets AAA, I don't see why shouldn't it count.

Also for multi-plats. If a game gets AAA in a console, and later gets ported to another and doesn't score AAA, (or vice versa) it just seems unfair to me, that it loses it's AAA counting status.

if we have exceptions than fanboys will go crazy with reasons why x game should be AAAE

Keep it simple, if its on another systems its not exclusive

if we have exceptions than fanboys will go crazy with reasons why x game should be AAAE

Keep it simple, if its on another systems its not exclusive

onewiththegame

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.xscrapzx

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

*cough* lemming damage control *cough*

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.xscrapzx

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

i just think there needs to be a better term...one that doesn't have "exclusive" in it. i mean, let's say there's a 360/ps3 game that you want to use in a 360 vs. wii comparison. what do you refer to the game as? non-ps3 exclusive? :?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="DireToad"]

Like I've said before, I don't think arcade games should count.

There are no reviews for arcade and therefor, no way to determine what is AAAE or AAE or whatever.


If GEoW gets 8.5 on the PC, will it not be a AAAE for the 360?

DireToad

we've never considered a game a AAAE just because another version of it scored below a nine. if we did that then things like halo, halo 2, and kotor would have been xbox AAAEs.

that's another reason why i don't like including multiplats.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.xscrapzx

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

I think there is a sticky that states you got to include the PC in everything. I find it weird but that is how it is. It's not console wars but system wars.

*cough* lemming damage control *cough*
EntwineX

*looks at ut3 and also remembers haze*

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]*cough* lemming damage control *cough*
CaseyWegner

*looks at ut3 and also remembers haze*

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.Deihmos

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

I think there is a sticky that states you got to include the PC in everything. I find it weird but that is how it is. It's not console wars but system wars.

Yes there is a sticky that says you have to, but not when you are comparing console v.s. console, then the PC is not including in that debate. Why you ask? Because PC is not a console. If I was to compare what systems have what exclusives then I would have to include the PC because I am comparing all systems.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you guys just need to find a better term than "console exclusive". saying "console exclusive" usually goes hand in hand with ignoring one of the competition to make one system look better.xscrapzx

Well I mean thats whole point in the system wars right. What is wrong with console exclusive? Lets say you are comparing PS3 V.S. 360. You then say well 360 has gears which is console exclusive because you can't get it on the PS3. I think that should be a valid argument, because it is a FACT that you can get gears on one "console" that being a 360.

I think there is a sticky that states you got to include the PC in everything. I find it weird but that is how it is. It's not console wars but system wars.

Yes there is a sticky that says you have to, but not when you are comparing console v.s. console, then the PC is not including in that debate. Why you ask? Because PC is not a console. If I was to compare what systems have what exclusives then I would have to include the PC because I am comparing all systems.

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]*cough* lemming damage control *cough*
CaseyWegner

*looks at ut3 and also remembers haze*