All RTS are boring except....

total annihilation and starcraft are boring?

ok.
 Iron-Dragon

yeah and I would not certainly call Comany of Heroes or Dawn of War boring either

Age of Empires 3 disagrees

Warcraft? Starcraft? They are Gods among videogames.project343

You have to use your imagination with these things. 1 unit can symbolize a small battalion. There's also probably some resource gathering that goes on behind the scenes like farming, sex, the draft, recruitment, training and food processing. RTS games usually focus on wars and battles too so you're going to see casualties whether you like it or not. You can either except that and move on or mourn your lost units like this and potentially lose the war.


PikaPichu

LOL, i love that cartoon, 40k table top pwns.

You have to use your imagination with these things. 1 unit can symbolize a small battalion. There's also probably some resource gathering that goes on behind the scenes like farming, sex, the draft, recruitment, training and food processing. RTS games usually focus on wars and battles too so you're going to see casualties whether you like it or not. You can either except that and move on or mourn your lost units like this and potentially lose the war.


PikaPichu

You have to use your imagination with these things. 1 unit can symbolize a small battalion. There's also probably some resource gathering that goes on behind the scenes like farming, sex, the draft, recruitment, training and food processing. RTS games usually focus on wars and battles too so you're going to see casualties whether you like it or not. You can either except that and move on or mourn your lost units like this and potentially lose the war.


PikaPichu

..the Total War series.
I read many people and espessially console fans posting that they dislike the RTS genre, to be frank I do too. I hate them they are dumbed down simplified to the level of a 12 years old kiddo...toys.
1. The whole green bar hitpoints system is lame at best, there is NO complexity of angle of attack, ground advantage and angle of missile attack (like shield angle etc).

2. The whole basebuilding is dumbed down and pathetic, little peasants gathering resources and turning them into humans...now that sucks. And even worst the whole system leads to build order memorising and pathetic clickfests.

3. The locked camera. The from the top view can be described as half@ssed 3d, you cant view the sky, can change camera angle from the general's POV and simply there is NO cinematic epic experience.

4. The scale of the battles is laughable, 50 guys duking it out? What is this a bar fight? And you call this a WAR? Also the scale of the buildings...how on earth did that sodlier train in those barracks if he has the same height as them?

5. NO morale, hey we are being slaughtered but we dont have fear so we stand and die...No flanking, with the aforementioned green bar hitpoint system this aint a surprise...

Since 2002 when I got M1TW I have NEVER touched a basebuilding RTS again in my life...And its no surprise that many people hate the genre it has been the same since Dune2....

True_Gamer_

I like RTS's like starcraft, total annihilation (supreme commander should be great), but I tried out this total war game (actually from one of your billions of threads praising it to death) and I'm sorry but that game is just flat out boring. Yeah it's realistic, but real life is boring.MTBare

I like RTS's like starcraft, total annihilation (supreme commander should be great), but I tried out this total war game (actually from one of your billions of threads praising it to death) and I'm sorry but that game is just flat out boring. Yeah it's realistic, but real life is boring.MTBare

The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.baddog121390

[QUOTE="MTBare"]I like RTS's like starcraft, total annihilation (supreme commander should be great), but I tried out this total war game (actually from one of your billions of threads praising it to death) and I'm sorry but that game is just flat out boring. Yeah it's realistic, but real life is boring.trix5817

[QUOTE="MTBare"]I like RTS's like starcraft, total annihilation (supreme commander should be great), but I tried out this total war game (actually from one of your billions of threads praising it to death) and I'm sorry but that game is just flat out boring. Yeah it's realistic, but real life is boring.True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.Redmoonxl2

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.Redmoonxl2

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.Redmoonxl2

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]The Total War games are really fun, but Age of Empires 2 disagrees.Redmoonxl2

Age of empires, Starcaft, and Warcaft are boring?Wanderer5

If an opinion has arguments supporting it you cant dismiss it...on teh other hand I feel that you have nothing to support your disagreement....
The "no comments" line is just for those that have 0 arguments to support their POV...
True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]Age of empires, Starcaft, and Warcaft are boring?True_Gamer_

To you, but to me they are fun especially Age of empires III and Warcaft III.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

If an opinion has arguments supporting it you cant dismiss it...on teh other hand I feel that you have nothing to support your disagreement....
The "no comments" line is just for those that have 0 arguments to support their POV...
Redmoonxl2

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]Age of empires, Starcaft, and Warcaft are boring?True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

If an opinion has arguments supporting it you cant dismiss it...on teh other hand I feel that you have nothing to support your disagreement....
The "no comments" line is just for those that have 0 arguments to support their POV...
True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

If an opinion has arguments supporting it you cant dismiss it...on teh other hand I feel that you have nothing to support your disagreement....
The "no comments" line is just for those that have 0 arguments to support their POV...
True_Gamer_

I've played all these RTS games said (Starcraft to Rise of Nations to Total War) and they are all good in their own way.  You can never say one is the dominant RTS since they all specialize in certain types of RTS. 

You have to stop thinking so simply since RTS's can be broken down into different categories.  Theres some where building/economy/battle take place all in the same map (Starcraft/RiseofNations etc) and then theres the others where battles and building take place separately (Total War series). 

The fact is that it is not easy to play all of these games online.  Starcraft and Warcraft3 do an excellent job of allowing millions of gamers to use strategies against each other while Total War hasn't done the same.  You can't play a whole campaign online in Total War in a time effective manner since its not set up that way.  Total War is more "single player" in the sense that you only focus on your own turns and the computer just breezes over whatever the other nations/factions are doing during their turns.  A single campaign on Total war would go on for weeks since not everyone is playing 24hrs straight, and then theres lag to deal with and other issues that set back gameplay.  While in Starcraft/Warcraft3 you can jump into a game and have it over within an hour or two and still be able to replay those battles again and again during the same timeframe a campaign of Total war would take.

So in the end I really don't see how you're comparing Total War and Starcraft and all the others.  Sure Total War has a lot of Single Player replayability but I've spent many more hours online playing other RTS since its always more fun to play with other people than the same stupid AI.

On an Opinion matter: I loved Homeworld 2, my favorite RTS so far.

..the Total War series.
I read many people and espessially console fans posting that they dislike the RTS genre, to be frank I do too. I hate them they are dumbed down simplified to the level of a 12 years old kiddo...toys.
1. The whole green bar hitpoints system is lame at best, there is NO complexity of angle of attack, ground advantage and angle of missile attack (like shield angle etc).

2. The whole basebuilding is dumbed down and pathetic, little peasants gathering resources and turning them into humans...now that sucks. And even worst the whole system leads to build order memorising and pathetic clickfests.

3. The locked camera. The from the top view can be described as half@ssed 3d, you cant view the sky, can change camera angle from the general's POV and simply there is NO cinematic epic experience.

4. The scale of the battles is laughable, 50 guys duking it out? What is this a bar fight? And you call this a WAR? Also the scale of the buildings...how on earth did that sodlier train in those barracks if he has the same height as them?

5. NO morale, hey we are being slaughtered but we dont have fear so we stand and die...No flanking, with the aforementioned green bar hitpoint system this aint a surprise...

Since 2002 when I got M1TW I have NEVER touched a basebuilding RTS again in my life...And its no surprise that many people hate the genre it has been the same since Dune2....

True_Gamer_

I really love the total war series, but i believe that there are better rts out there. I own m2tw and i also own rtw and i also used to own m1tw. But starcraft and age of empires 1 and 2, and warcraft 2 and 3 all seem better to me. Though imo the tw series is the king of pure strategy.

Actually, I find Rome: Total War to be a bit on the boring side. Seriously, there's not action whatsoever! I spent 2 hours playing and all the action I got were 2 minor skirmishes and one naval battle, and hell, I don't even get to see the naval battle.

Besides, if you're looking for realism, GTFO, if they made the characters correctly sized in an RTS, they'd be so small you wouldn't even be able to see them.

I've played all these RTS games said (Starcraft to Rise of Nations to Total War) and they are all good in their own way. You can never say one is the dominant RTS since they all specialize in certain types of RTS.

You have to stop thinking so simply since RTS's can be broken down into different categories. Theres some where building/economy/battle take place all in the same map (Starcraft/RiseofNations etc) and then theres the others where battles and building take place separately (Total War series).

The fact is that it is not easy to play all of these games online. Starcraft and Warcraft3 do an excellent job of allowing millions of gamers to use strategies against each other while Total War hasn't done the same. You can't play a whole campaign online in Total War in a time effective manner since its not set up that way. Total War is more "single player" in the sense that you only focus on your own turns and the computer just breezes over whatever the other nations/factions are doing during their turns. A single campaign on Total war would go on for weeks since not everyone is playing 24hrs straight, and then theres lag to deal with and other issues that set back gameplay. While in Starcraft/Warcraft3 you can jump into a game and have it over within an hour or two and still be able to replay those battles again and again during the same timeframe a campaign of Total war would take.

So in the end I really don't see how you're comparing Total War and Starcraft and all the others. Sure Total War has a lot of Single Player replayability but I've spent many more hours online playing other RTS since its always more fun to play with other people than the same stupid AI.

On an Opinion matter: I loved Homeworld 2, my favorite RTS so far.

RandomDying