Almost a year and a half after launch, what are your thoughts on Kinect?

All things considered, what are your thoughts on the Kinect device?

When I first saw it displayed with the Project Milo presentation, I was pretty interested in what it had to offer. After a year and a half on the market, I'm rather disappointed to see that the highest rated game for it is sitting at an 85% on Gamerankings.com, and it is a dance game.

I think there was a lot of self-inflicted damage surrounding the Kinect.

Primarily what I mean by that is, they shouldn't have advertised it as, "you are the controller". I think they shot themselves in the foot with that statement alone. That one simple statement limited an endless amount of possibilites to basically a dance game peripheral capable of doing some on-rail segments.

If they had just cut that statement out, and allowed for things like a navigation controller at the very least, a lot more possibilities would be available.

As it stands right now, developers are struggling to even find a way to implement it into core games. It's not like the Move where you can easily incorporate it into many core games that aren't entirely based on motion controls.

The Kinect is sort of in a position where it has alienated itself from everything. It is so limited that you can't have a first person shooter and implement Kinect controls into it like you can with the Move. Everything that deals with the Kinect needs to be built from the ground up for Kinect, and be Kinect exclusive. The Wii has proven its functionality across multiple genres, showing implementation in great AAAAE Mario games, Zelda games, core games that the fans love. The Move is basically the same thing as a Wii Motion Plus, so they both have functionality, diversity, and can be applied to many different types of games and genres, they don't alienate themselves.

18 million sold is quite impressive for the amount of time that it has been on the market, but we have yet to see a steady stream of software for it. In all honestly, the vast majority of software for it is shovelware. I think Kinect could have greatly benefited from a navigation controller, and a design that didn't alienate it from core games. If you could use Kinect for core games like you can use the Move for core games, I think it wouldn't be looked at as the joke that people see it as now, a device with a bunch of shovelware to play, the highest rated game being a dance game.

I have played many hours of Kinect at Microsoft Studios, right on the campus of Microsoft Headquarters in Washington State. I've been playing games since the Atari and NES, when they were relevant, so I've been playing games for about 23 years. I've never played anything like Kinect before, and I was having a hard time summarizing my thoughts on it in a simple paragraph, but this one user gave the perfect explanation of it, and it mirrored my thoughts perfectly.

Seeing as it's restrictive as hell regarding room requirements (staging) and plagued with latency and accuracy issues, I'd say it doesn't even qualify as a good gimmick. A buddy emailed me a review recently where the reviewer actually made the case that a reason a Kinect game was good was due to the fact that the player couldn't really lose when Kinect fuc*ed up recognizing player movement. To me, that's not even up for debate -- that is a BROKEN CONTROL APPARATUS when reviewers have to wait for games in which the player can't be penalized to justify its existence.

I don't know any better way to put it: Kinect is trash. Cancerous trash. Broken controls that do not work 100 percent of the time are trash. The player having to wonder whether his input is going to be recognized (and properly discerned) by the computer is trash. The player having to wait for his input to register on screen is trash. That's not hyperbole -- that is coming from someone who has held controllers of different makes and styles in his hands for damn near 35 years and who knows the fundamental, most basic, most absolutely necessary component of a controller is that it works -- flawlessly. Watching people flail around with this thing trying to explain away all its deficiencies in the name of mindless entertainment baffles me, honest to God. I don't call it trash to be mean, I call it trash because that is the best descriptor when qualifying it as a control mechanism.

Shame-usBlackley

The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story.

Webcam. The end.

It's a resounding succsess from a business point of view, i don't like it personally but you cannot deny that is't popular and it offers people a new way to play, no offence TC but when steel battallion comes out just try and say that kinect 'can't' do core games, just because it doesn't have any core games yet does not equate to developers having problems developing core titles for it, the absence of something does not imply the existence of something else if you catch my meaning. And i have been playing games longer than the guy you quoted.delta3074

I have no doubt that it is possible, I think anything is possible. I would just rather see it to believe it, than believe something that doesn't really exist.

It's good technology, but wasted on the crap made for it.

Still not interested. But i'm surprised by all the sales its getting.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's a resounding succsess from a business point of view, i don't like it personally but you cannot deny that is't popular and it offers people a new way to play, no offence TC but when steel battallion comes out just try and say that kinect 'can't' do core games, just because it doesn't have any core games yet does not equate to developers having problems developing core titles for it, the absence of something does not imply the existence of something else if you catch my meaning. And i have been playing games longer than the guy you quoted.arkephonic

I have no doubt that it is possible, I think anything is possible. I would just rather see it to believe it, than believe something that doesn't really exist.

Not interested. Will never buy it.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's a resounding succsess from a business point of view, i don't like it personally but you cannot deny that is't popular and it offers people a new way to play, no offence TC but when steel battallion comes out just try and say that kinect 'can't' do core games, just because it doesn't have any core games yet does not equate to developers having problems developing core titles for it, the absence of something does not imply the existence of something else if you catch my meaning. And i have been playing games longer than the guy you quoted.delta3074

I have no doubt that it is possible, I think anything is possible. I would just rather see it to believe it, than believe something that doesn't really exist.

Can you play Graw and ME3 without a controller just using the Kinect? I heard that ME3 is just using voice recognition. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I haven't heard what Graw is doing, so explain that as well.

I was expecting something more like playing the entire game using Kinect. Moving around, solving puzzles, shooting enemies, upgrading abilities, taking cover, all using the Kinect. Just using it for voice commands just goes to show, developers are struggling to implement it into core titles. You still need to use a controller to play core titles, you aren't the controller. What about the whole, "You are the controller"? It seems like you are really only the controller for dance games....

I still haven't played it or even seen one in person for that matter. Not planning on buying it anytime soon either.

Although my mates are getting one for their flat and weirdly enough I'm looking forward to that.

Dance Central is meant to be crazy fun when you've had a few.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I have no doubt that it is possible, I think anything is possible. I would just rather see it to believe it, than believe something that doesn't really exist.

arkephonic

Can you play Graw and ME3 without a controller just using the Kinect? I heard that ME3 is just using voice recognition. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I haven't heard what Graw is doing, so explain that as well.

I was expecting something more like playing the entire game using Kinect. Moving around, solving puzzles, shooting enemies, upgrading abilities, taking cover, all using the Kinect. Just using it for voice commands just goes to show, developers are struggling to implement it into core titles. You still need to use a controller to play core titles, you aren't the controller. What about the whole, "You are the controller"? It seems like you are really only the controller for dance games....

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]but you are using the absence of something to imply that something else exists, according to you the lack of core titles on kinect is because developers are struggling to put core titles on kinect, i have seen no evidence that this is the case, in fact i have seeen the opposite, the next Graw and ME3 will have kinect support.delta3074

Can you play Graw and ME3 without a controller just using the Kinect? I heard that ME3 is just using voice recognition. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I haven't heard what Graw is doing, so explain that as well.

I was expecting something more like playing the entire game using Kinect. Moving around, solving puzzles, shooting enemies, upgrading abilities, taking cover, all using the Kinect. Just using it for voice commands just goes to show, developers are struggling to implement it into core titles. You still need to use a controller to play core titles, you aren't the controller. What about the whole, "You are the controller"? It seems like you are really only the controller for dance games....

Yeah dude, you can play Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Heavy Rain, NBA 2K12, Socom 4, Sly Collection, LittleBigPlanet 2, and some others using only the Move.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Move_games

I was thinking that you would be able to do the same with Kinect, but you can't. Name me a list of core games that you can play by using the Kinect device on its own.

I don't even see how it is possible. How would you move around without a navigation controller? It's limited to on rails.

I don't own one, but have played it with some friends before. I must say, dance central is kind of fun. :P

Non-gaming trash.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Can you play Graw and ME3 without a controller just using the Kinect? I heard that ME3 is just using voice recognition. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I haven't heard what Graw is doing, so explain that as well.

I was expecting something more like playing the entire game using Kinect. Moving around, solving puzzles, shooting enemies, upgrading abilities, taking cover, all using the Kinect. Just using it for voice commands just goes to show, developers are struggling to implement it into core titles. You still need to use a controller to play core titles, you aren't the controller. What about the whole, "You are the controller"? It seems like you are really only the controller for dance games....

arkephonic

Yeah dude, you can play Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Heavy Rain, NBA 2K12, Socom 4, Sly Collection, LittleBigPlanet 2, and some others using only the Move.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Move_games

I was thinking that you would be able to do the same with Kinect, but you can't. Name me a list of core games that you can play by using the Kinect device on its own.

I don't even see how it is possible. How would you move around without a navigation controller? It's limited to on rails.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]can you play any core title on the PS3 with just Move? thats the point, you can play MW on the wii with just motion controls so it can obviously be done on MOVE and Kinect eventually, MS are just too busy sucking in the so called 'casuals' at the moment, personally i feel they are going after the Facebooke gamer crowd but that's just my opinion, have you ever seen a film calle Gamer? i know it's not kinect but kinect is the next step in the line towards that kind of gaming, personally i hate motion controls including kinect but nintendo started something this gen and it's going to keep going,like it or not it's the evolution of gaming and it's about time, games are becoming generic because we have been playing them the same way for too long, i started out playing on a keyboard back in the 80's.delta3074

Yeah dude, you can play Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Heavy Rain, NBA 2K12, Socom 4, Sly Collection, LittleBigPlanet 2, and some others using only the Move.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Move_games

I was thinking that you would be able to do the same with Kinect, but you can't. Name me a list of core games that you can play by using the Kinect device on its own.

I don't even see how it is possible. How would you move around without a navigation controller? It's limited to on rails.

I never said Move only. How would core games be Move only? And since when is the navigation controller not a part of the Move? What?

If you read my original post, I said Kinect should have had a navigation controller, but it doesn't.

You wouldn't be able to play a core game like Resistance 3 or Killzone 3 using only the Kinect, would you?

You can play those games without a PS3 controller, and only using Move peripherals, that was my point.

All things considered, what are your thoughts on the Kinect device?

When I first saw it displayed with the Project Milo presentation, I was pretty interested in what it had to offer. After a year and a half on the market, I'm rather disappointed to see that the highest rated game for it is sitting at an 85% on Gamerankings.com, and it is a dance game.

I think there was a lot of self-inflicted damage surrounding the Kinect.

Primarily what I mean by that is, they shouldn't have advertised it as, "you are the controller". I think they shot themselves in the foot with that statement alone. That one simple statement limited an endless amount of possibilites to basically a dance game peripheral capable of doing some on-rail segments.

If they had just cut that statement out, and allowed for things like a navigation controller at the very least, a lot more possibilities would be available.

As it stands right now, developers are struggling to even find a way to implement it into core games. It's not like the Move where you can easily incorporate it into many core games that aren't entirely based on motion controls.

* You have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of this statement.. Infact I just played ME3 yesterday and the Kinect voice controls worked pretty damn good. Not to mention they've already imprlimented Kinect into Halo and Forza.*

The Kinect is sort of in a position where it has alienated itself from everything. It is so limited that you can't have a first person shooter and implement Kinect controls into it like you can with the Move. Everything that deals with the Kinect needs to be built from the ground up for Kinect, and be Kinect exclusive. The Wii has proven its functionality across multiple genres, showing implementation in great AAAAE Mario games, Zelda games, core games that the fans love. The Move is basically the same thing as a Wii Motion Plus, so they both have functionality, diversity, and can be applied to many different types of games and genres, they don't alienate themselves.

Says Hi..

18 million sold is quite impressive for the amount of time that it has been on the market, but we have yet to see a steady stream of software for it. In all honestly, the vast majority of software for it is shovelware. I think Kinect could have greatly benefited from a navigation controller, and a design that didn't alienate it from core games. If you could use Kinect for core games like you can use the Move for core games, I think it wouldn't be looked at as the joke that people see it as now, a device with a bunch of shovelware to play, the highest rated game being a dance game.

I have played many hours of Kinect at Microsoft Studios, right on the campus of Microsoft Headquarters in Washington State. I've been playing games since the Atari and NES, when they were relevant, so I've been playing games for about 23 years. I've never played anything like Kinect before, and I was having a hard time summarizing my thoughts on it in a simple paragraph, but this one user gave the perfect explanation of it, and it mirrored my thoughts perfectly.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

Seeing as it's restrictive as hell regarding room requirements (staging) and plagued with latency and accuracy issues, I'd say it doesn't even qualify as a good gimmick. A buddy emailed me a review recently where the reviewer actually made the case that a reason a Kinect game was good was due to the fact that the player couldn't really lose when Kinect fuc*ed up recognizing player movement. To me, that's not even up for debate -- that is a BROKEN CONTROL APPARATUS when reviewers have to wait for games in which the player can't be penalized to justify its existence.

I don't know any better way to put it: Kinect is trash. Cancerous trash. Broken controls that do not work 100 percent of the time are trash. The player having to wonder whether his input is going to be recognized (and properly discerned) by the computer is trash. The player having to wait for his input to register on screen is trash. That's not hyperbole -- that is coming from someone who has held controllers of different makes and **** in his hands for damn near 35 years and who knows the fundamental, most basic, most absolutely necessary component of a controller is that it works -- flawlessly. Watching people flail around with this thing trying to explain away all its deficiencies in the name of mindless entertainment baffles me, honest to God. I don't call it trash to be mean, I call it trash because that is the best descriptor when qualifying it as a control mechanism.

Oh Snap.. He quoted the, Be all End all most reputable source in the VG world.. Who obviously has a Doctorate in VG reviews and functionality.. Who the F88K is this guy you keep quoting.. No seriously... who is he..

arkephonic

The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story.

The bottom line is.. Kinect was not made for the "core" gamer.. Sure they'd like the "core" gamers to adopt the hardware, but it's focus is clearly on casual market.. So if you're not an Xbox 360 gamer who cares about sesame street monsters.. Why the hell do you care..

All things considered, what are your thoughts on the Kinect device?

When I first saw it displayed with the Project Milo presentation, I was pretty interested in what it had to offer. After a year and a half on the market, I'm rather disappointed to see that the highest rated game for it is sitting at an 85% on Gamerankings.com, and it is a dance game.

I think there was a lot of self-inflicted damage surrounding the Kinect.

Primarily what I mean by that is, they shouldn't have advertised it as, "you are the controller". I think they shot themselves in the foot with that statement alone. That one simple statement limited an endless amount of possibilites to basically a dance game peripheral capable of doing some on-rail segments.

If they had just cut that statement out, and allowed for things like a navigation controller at the very least, a lot more possibilities would be available.

As it stands right now, developers are struggling to even find a way to implement it into core games. It's not like the Move where you can easily incorporate it into many core games that aren't entirely based on motion controls.

The Kinect is sort of in a position where it has alienated itself from everything. It is so limited that you can't have a first person shooter and implement Kinect controls into it like you can with the Move. Everything that deals with the Kinect needs to be built from the ground up for Kinect, and be Kinect exclusive. The Wii has proven its functionality across multiple genres, showing implementation in great AAAAE Mario games, Zelda games, core games that the fans love. The Move is basically the same thing as a Wii Motion Plus, so they both have functionality, diversity, and can be applied to many different types of games and genres, they don't alienate themselves.

18 million sold is quite impressive for the amount of time that it has been on the market, but we have yet to see a steady stream of software for it. In all honestly, the vast majority of software for it is shovelware. I think Kinect could have greatly benefited from a navigation controller, and a design that didn't alienate it from core games. If you could use Kinect for core games like you can use the Move for core games, I think it wouldn't be looked at as the joke that people see it as now, a device with a bunch of shovelware to play, the highest rated game being a dance game.

I have played many hours of Kinect at Microsoft Studios, right on the campus of Microsoft Headquarters in Washington State. I've been playing games since the Atari and NES, when they were relevant, so I've been playing games for about 23 years. I've never played anything like Kinect before, and I was having a hard time summarizing my thoughts on it in a simple paragraph, but this one user gave the perfect explanation of it, and it mirrored my thoughts perfectly.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

Seeing as it's restrictive as hell regarding room requirements (staging) and plagued with latency and accuracy issues, I'd say it doesn't even qualify as a good gimmick. A buddy emailed me a review recently where the reviewer actually made the case that a reason a Kinect game was good was due to the fact that the player couldn't really lose when Kinect fuc*ed up recognizing player movement. To me, that's not even up for debate -- that is a BROKEN CONTROL APPARATUS when reviewers have to wait for games in which the player can't be penalized to justify its existence.

I don't know any better way to put it: Kinect is trash. Cancerous trash. Broken controls that do not work 100 percent of the time are trash. The player having to wonder whether his input is going to be recognized (and properly discerned) by the computer is trash. The player having to wait for his input to register on screen is trash. That's not hyperbole -- that is coming from someone who has held controllers of different makes and styles in his hands for damn near 35 years and who knows the fundamental, most basic, most absolutely necessary component of a controller is that it works -- flawlessly. Watching people flail around with this thing trying to explain away all its deficiencies in the name of mindless entertainment baffles me, honest to God. I don't call it trash to be mean, I call it trash because that is the best descriptor when qualifying it as a control mechanism.

arkephonic

The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story.

Kinect > MoveSpartan070

Ahaha, 48 hours.

Yeah, I have played Kinect at Microsoft Studios.

Deal with it.

Ahaha, 48 hours.

Yeah, I have played Kinect at Microsoft Studios.

Deal with it.

arkephonic

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

arkephonic

"The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story."

..and you figured all this out in ten minutes..

:lol:

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

OhSnapitz

"The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story."

..and you figured all this out in ten minutes..

:lol:

I actually figured it out in 3 :)

I've played Kinect today at the mall:

• Kinectimals
• Someting like Kinect Sports or whatever
• And a dancing game

Kinectimals was fun for about 5 minutes. The dancing game was lame. The sports game was super fun to play with friends.

Kinect isn't bad but it's a gimmick that will go old with time.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

arkephonic

"The controls are just so far from precision and 100% reliability, that I don't see how it could really be implemented into a core game. For people out there who enjoy a challenge, enjoy topping leaderboards, enjoy competition, enjoy playing games to get a sense of true accomplishment and satisfaction, I just don't see how the Kinect could be a good thing. When you're getting beaten down from the controls and not the game itself, I can't think of anything more frustrating. People always say the greatest games are the games that when you lose, when you die, you know it was your fault, and you can learn from your mistakes. But when you are losing because the game is cheap, or the controls are broken, that's an entirely different story."

..and you figured all this out in ten minutes..

:lol:

I actually figured it out in 3 :)

I like it but very few games are appealing to me. I bet I have lost 10 lbs since I hooked it up thanks to Dance Central, Sports, and Adventures.

Funny... I figured out Uncharted was craptastic in the same amount of time.. :) We be "Wizards".. :lol:OhSnapitz

Now that, is amazing. I will give you credit for that.

It is much easier to determine the functionality and precision of a control mechanism in a matter of minutes, than it is to determine the quality of a 10 hour game in a matter of minutes.

For that, I give you mad props.

The most important device in gaming by far

As for games, i liked Gunstringer and Haunt a lot

And cant wait for the big ones like Fable Journey, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 2 etc

MS released it early with mainly casual games, since good games take time to make, but if that expanded their user base is fine with me

Now seems they have turned to core Kinect games almost 99% which is amazing

The most important device in gaming by far

As for games, i liked Gunstringer and Haunt a lot

And cant wait for the big ones like Fable Journey, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 2 etc

MS released it early with mainly casual games, since good games take time to make, but if that expanded their user base is fine with me

Now seems they have turned to core Kinect games almost 99% which is amazing

loosingENDS

I'm also interested in seeing how those games turn out. If they end up being good, I might even get a Kinect.

I have 2 Xbox 360 slims, 34 Xbox games and 2 original Xbox consoles with 45 games for those. It's not like I don't like Microsoft or don't like the Xbox.

All I'm saying is that the Kinect has to prove its worth to me, and it might do so with those games, who knows.

I don't like dancing, and I don't feel like having a conversation with Garrus (is that the funny looking guy's name in ME)?

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The most important device in gaming by far

As for games, i liked Gunstringer and Haunt a lot

And cant wait for the big ones like Fable Journey, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 2 etc

MS released it early with mainly casual games, since good games take time to make, but if that expanded their user base is fine with me

Now seems they have turned to core Kinect games almost 99% which is amazing

arkephonic

I'm also interested in seeing how those games turn out. If they end up being good, I might even get a Kinect.

I have 2 Xbox 360 slims, 34 Xbox games and 2 original Xbox consoles with 45 games for those. It's not like I don't like Microsoft or don't like the Xbox.

All I'm saying is that the Kinect has to prove its worth to me, and it might do so with those games, who knows.

I don't like dancing, and I don't feel like having a conversation with Garrus (is that the funny looking guy's name in ME)?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The most important device in gaming by far

As for games, i liked Gunstringer and Haunt a lot

And cant wait for the big ones like Fable Journey, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 2 etc

MS released it early with mainly casual games, since good games take time to make, but if that expanded their user base is fine with me

Now seems they have turned to core Kinect games almost 99% which is amazing

Another48hours

I'm also interested in seeing how those games turn out. If they end up being good, I might even get a Kinect.

I have 2 Xbox 360 slims, 34 Xbox games and 2 original Xbox consoles with 45 games for those. It's not like I don't like Microsoft or don't like the Xbox.

All I'm saying is that the Kinect has to prove its worth to me, and it might do so with those games, who knows.

I don't like dancing, and I don't feel like having a conversation with Garrus (is that the funny looking guy's name in ME)?

Because for every console I own, I have a brand new, unopened one in the box in a closet. Not just 360, but I have an unopened PS3 slim, Wii, PS2, Xbox original, Gamecube, PS1, Dreamcast and N64 too, along with the opened ones that I have set up.

I've probably played a total of 10 minutes on the Move and the Kinect combined.

I tried a demo of Kinect at Microsoft Studios when I was working there, they have Kinect set up in literally 20 rooms in that building.

I played Move at Best Buy for a minute or 2.

I don't really care for either. Not a big Wii Motion Plus fan either. I don't own a Kinect, or a Move, and I have no plans to do so.

Out of the 20 games I have for Wii, about 2 of them are revolved around motion controls, all the rest have options for Gamecube, Classic, traditional controls.

• arkephonic

• "You can Play Sly, Resis, etc. On move. But I will pretend Forza 4 doesn't exist to win argument."

The **** with this one is too much to take for ones self to handle

[QUOTE="Another48hours"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm also interested in seeing how those games turn out. If they end up being good, I might even get a Kinect.

I have 2 Xbox 360 slims, 34 Xbox games and 2 original Xbox consoles with 45 games for those. It's not like I don't like Microsoft or don't like the Xbox.

All I'm saying is that the Kinect has to prove its worth to me, and it might do so with those games, who knows.

I don't like dancing, and I don't feel like having a conversation with Garrus (is that the funny looking guy's name in ME)?

arkephonic

Because for every console I own, I have a brand new, unopened one in the box in a closet. Not just 360, but I have an unopened PS3 slim, Wii, PS2, Xbox original, Gamecube, PS1, Dreamcast and N64 too, along with the opened ones that I have set up.

Lol, are you just going to make quotes up all day 48 hours?

Lol, are you just going to make quotes up all day 48 hours?

arkephonic

The only good game on it is Child of Eden.

Though Project Draco looks great.

I work for a media company that has recently been working at Microsoft studios for a variety of different commercials and infomercials, some involving Microsoft products, some not.

I never said a lot of those quotes you just made up.

Is that your way of arguing? Making up quotes?

The only good game on it is Child of Eden.

Though Project Draco looks great.

Slashless

Very impressive for casual games but also very limited for everything else.

It was fun while lasted, especialy playing Kinect Sports with friends, but already traded it for a 3DS :P

I don't own one, but have played it with some friends before. I must say, dance central is kind of fun. :P

arad96

Pretty much. There's a few gems for it.

I work for a media company that has recently been working at Microsoft studios for a variety of different commercials and infomercials, some involving Microsoft products, some not.

I never said a lot of those quotes you just made up.

Is that your way of arguing? Making up quotes?

arkephonic