AMD / PS5: 7nm Navi Roadmap

PC to XB1X enhanced titles would be a somewhat noticeable difference (depending on the title).

PC to PSPRO titles is a very noticeable difference.

PC to non PRO/1X enhanced titles (most) is a large difference.

30 to 60 fps is a night and day difference.

Most video games are considerably worse when played on PS4PRO. Unless you have severe vision problems. This is a strong fact to take into account when comparing hardware.

Are you trolling?

FC5 On Ultra is nowhere near as good as PS4 exclusives.

in fact it could be argued that FC5 Ultra Settings is only 10% better than FC5 X1X Settings since switching to X1X Settings from Ultra will only gain you 10% better frame rates

@zaryia is a joke, and doesn’t even own a Gaming PC

Nah, you said PS3 beat PC last gen and that XBOX beat PC the gen before that.

You said 30 fps is good enough. You think Overwatch is a console port. You said consoles have a better competitive scene than PC. You thought FC5 was best on XB1X.

You have 4 forum alts who all spread lies. Your opinion is invalid.

Graphics King isn’t determined by which system plays multiplats best, it’s determined by which system has the best looking Game PERIOD

Right now that’s PS4 Pro with at the very minimum GOW and HZD in proper HDR

1. This wasn't a graphics king thread. This thread was about hardware. You can't compare and discuss hardware without mentioning the fact the current Sony hardware plays the worst version of most video game releases. Noticeably so. That's a major fact to consider for any purchaser.....nearly all god damn games.

2. Opinion. FC5 PC destroys anything on PS4, easily. Same with modded Witcher 3, Battlefront 1 and 2, BF1, and modded GTAV. About another dozen games on Ultra debatably so. The only people who disagree, are people with multiple alts (so many may/june registrations that know who I am for years) and are KNOWN and CONFIRMED long term trolls at this site. Payed shills or just extreme fanboys, you decide.

@zaryia: Again your wrong... games that have minor differences between all platforms.

RE7

MH:World

AC:Orgins

Games with large difference between X1X and Pro.

Shadow of War

SW:BF2

HM

Games with large difference between PC and Pro

FFXV

FC 5

Shadow of War

SW BF2

See unlike you ive compared them. Their are only a few multiplats each year on PC that have a noticeable advantage. You are in pure hyperbole...

No im not an alt.. debate logically or move along.

You're telling me 30 to 60 fps isn't noticeable? Because you didn't list games like Destiny 2, Witcher 3, or Fallout 4, lmao.

And clicking on random DF Face offs, you appear to have cut out many games,

Still, despite the limited scope of the PC version, it is by far and away the best version of the game available for that platform - even factoring in all of the Prepare to Die Edition mods.

Kingdom Come Deliverance on PC offers huge upgrades over console

It's a satisfying result and while the PC version still offers up the definitive Overwatch experience, this upgrade gives us the best take on the game available for consoles.

PlayStation 4 Pro goes one step further, essentially providing what amounts to a full 60fps lock in conjunction with improved image quality. It smoothes off the rough edges in terms of both performance and anti-aliasing and noses ahead as the best way to play the game on consoles. However, there's still the sense that we aren't getting value from the 2.3x improvement to GPU power that the Pro offers. And despite limiting itself to 1080p resolution, it still falls short visually compared to the fully maxed PC version of the game. Codemasters' Ego engine historically fares best on PC, and Dirt 4 continues the trend. Gameplay is solid on all systems, but it's the PC version that shows Codemasters' work at its best.

Indeed, Prey is a unique case where the PC version offers an experience so much more refined than the consoles that it harkens back to an era where PC versions of the same title felt very different - and often, much better. In many ways, Prey feels as if it were designed first and foremost as a PC game then ported downwards onto consoles. Very few studios pursue this strategy in today's console-first era, and for that reason, we urge you to check out the PC release if you have the opportunity. It really is tremendous.

Equally it's great to see a fully featured PC version available at launch, deploying the full force of Unreal Engine while retaining a console-level dynamic settings management system. The gameplay experience is solid on all systems, but PS4 offers significant visual upgrades over Xbox One, while Pro adds resolution and filtering enhancements. For those looking for the most visually rich Tekken 7 experience? PC is the way to go.

Of course, these issues aren't present on the PC, which features a vast modding community designing all kinds of interesting ways to expand upon the base game. Combined with the ability to play at 60fps and run at ultra-high resolutions, this version delivers the best overall package.

These are considerations that we don't have to make on the PC version, and with the scalable nature of the Frostbite engine, Battlefield 1 is well equipped to run smoothly across a wide range of hardware configurations, especially when the resolution scaler is utilised. The latest mid-range GPUs deliver a great experience at 1080p targeting 60fps, while 1440p and even 4K gaming is within reach - where DICE's top-notch technology simply looks sensational.

On these grounds, the PC original still stakes a claim as the definitive release, especially if performance is a priority. It's still the only way to play either game at a locked 60fps,

Rise of the Tomb Raider is exceptional on all platforms, but if you're looking for the definitive release, we'd still opt for the PC version

DF can notice. Why can't you? I could keep going for pages. Mind you some of that is against X1X, which is better than PRO.

How many games a year aren't objectively worse on PRO than PC?

@zaryia: 60fps on TW3 honestly isn't that big of a deal. I own the game on X1X as well so no its not a massive advantage. OW looks almost identical on all platforms minus IQ differences and runs at 60fps on all. Tekken 7 is very minor improvement on PC with a fraction of the community so PS4 is the best way to play T7 hands down as all fighting games are.

You said games with significant improvements! Ill give you Destiny 2, Kingdom Come deliverance, Prey and BF1 as major PC advantages. I personally don't care about those games but if those are the types of titles you like then by all means get them and invest in the PC. They all look worse then the PS4s best exclusives

rofl.

Why is it always the fresh alts.

I give up. Troll away.

@zaryia: The game pauses when you switch skills for **** sakes... i take res over fps mode in TW3 everytime.

60fps in something like DMC ok.. but TW3??? Its nice but it doesn't make or break the game.

@zaryia: this thread wasn't about hardware, it was about PS5.

You as usual came showing your insecurity about Sony's offerings and went with your usual muuuuuh gfx ultra graphics spiral of denial and butthurtness, you never fail to deliver, you do it in every single thread.

Watch as a launch PS5 title destroys every single $1000 PC out there.

@recloud: Funny thing is if it runs TloU 2 and GoT at Native 4k 60fps that would obliterate any PC game period. Imagine what games built for the PS5 will look like.

So you admit that you do not have a high end PC so you can't say you know what looks better as your only experience is with PS4. lol You are simply wrong. This is coming from someone who has a Pro and a PC and I can tell you that it does look better on PC. Trust me...the PS4 looks good with the exclusives with the hardware that it has, but it doesn't look at good as high end PC.

@Diddies: I have acess to a 1070 and no PC multiplats don"t look better then the top PS4 exclusives. You are delusional im sorry... The vast majority of most of assets in most multiplats are the same. Websites go on record to even compare them to top PC games. Sorry but proof is against you

You're talking to someone who just said 30 to 60 fps doesn't matter. And in a game that looks much better on PC (Witcher 3).

He's trolling. The only question is whose alt he is.

Nah GOW isn't in the mix. I have it on the Pro. Horizon Blows it out of the water. AC: Origins, AC: Unity, Battlefront 2, Battlefield 1, The Witcher 3, Rise of The Tomb Raider, R&C 2016. These are some of the best looking games. I was left unimpressed with God of War but it is probably my favorite of the bunch I named.

Far Cry 5 in HDR looks very good and the environments are gorgeous but the character models are simply too meh. Even the main ones.

He admits he doesn't have a PC so he doesn't have credibility as he doesn't see what it looks like at high-end PCs. So he is wrong. I am completely okay with people who play consoles as that is what they want to do. However, they do not need to spew nonsense if they can't afford a high-end PC.

@Diddies: Cant afford a high end PC? My gaming setup would bring yours to shame kid.

Ive played on a high end PC.. right now its getting stomped by exclusives on a $400 prebuilt box. That comes painfully obvious at the end of every year come award time.

@zaryia: I know the difference i just didn't think it was game changing in that particular game.

Your the guy who told us Jpegs are accurate representations of PS4 pro image quality and you told me ingame shots were photomode bullshots. Don't ever call anyone a troll..you're a joke!

Isn't @zaryia@God's dupe? He behaves the same. Defends PC like a madman despite not owning one.

@Juub1990: not only that, Zaryia is also an insecure troll who has no creativity at all, his modus operandi is like this:

- calls console games movie games

- calls console gamers soccer moms

- cries about gfx

- uses jpeg screenshots from PS4 games

- goes into console threads to bash consoles, gets his ass kicked

- uses trump memes

- uses "the eye can't see more than 30fps memes"

You can go into every single console graphics or hardware thread and there will zaryia be: trying to make PC the center of attention, using all the things I've just mentioned, when nobody on the threads want to talk about it and when he gets his ass handed to himself on a GTX plate, he then runs away from the thread or proceeds to having a tantrum

He is a really sad person.

Just ignore him, he doesn’t even own a PC

Low res textures masked with lighting/blur effects, poor view distance (objects don't render in 3D until you get close), and 30 fps.

Ticks all the boxes of a console game.

@UssjTrunks: Those textures stomp W3 on max settings which is the PCs best looking open world game.

Lol at hermits losing their mind when old PS4 hardware cucks their PCs with 1080's.

I don't think you're his alt. May be Calvin's.

Pay me $500 or I will say I'm your alt. :P

lol

Modded TW3 textures shit all over HZD. Of course vanilla look like crap. Game was downgraded like 300% from initial development so it can run on consoles.

What is scary to me is what kind of graphics weve seen from PS4. PS4 is freaking old, low memory, low proccessing power, low graphical power ... yet we see games like Uncharted 4 , TLOU 2, Spiderman and God of war. All jaw-dropping experiences as far as graphics and physics and all that goes.

I cant imagine what all those studios might achieve with a real next-gen machine that will be much more powerful with alot more RAM, CPU AND GPU power.

@AzatiS: Sony's teams are unparalleled as far as getting the most out of their platform.

Last generation was ND and then the rest, some better than others but still ND was feeling like playing on another level as far as technical graphics and graphics in general went that generation. This generation .. every studio is up there. Horizon, Spiderman, God of war .. i mean, they seriously doing it to stand next to ND games.

I want to see what those studios can do with next-gen tech. We might see some graphical revolutions ? Who knows. Im afraid though that might not be the case since 4K might be the standard by then and developers will be "wasting" valuable resources for resolution and stable fps ( thats not bad but still ) than push in game graphics, physics and all that to another level.

I would prefer for example a 1080p/60 fps console game that will look like it came from another galaxy ingame ... than a great game with not much advancements at 4K/60fps. I think im alone on that, specially in a few years when 4K will be in every home i guess, but still. Im more into in game graphical leaps than resolution leaps.

@AzatiS: Having not experienced 4K myself, I can't really advocate whether or not advancements in that region are particularly worthwhile. I play my games at 1080p and 60fps(+) on PC. I would like frame-rates to be considered over graphical advancements first but to be honest, even that is a rather relaxed opinion.

what would be the minimum spec for next gen console? and will they be achievable at that time

I dont know what Sony and MS will be thinking at the time. If we go to a 4K only experience consoles must be considerable more powerful than now. If theyll keep this 1080p gaming with 4K option/upscaling will be kinda different approach. I have no idea at this point what will happen. Most likely though 4K will take over.

@blackhairedhero: and I'd say the best gameplay games are found on all of Nintendo's hardware which is more important lol enjoy your eye candy while I play actual games that down the road hold thier value

If you say so, imo Nintendo games are rubbish and have shit everything.

@mariokart64fan: Thats up to you.. i enjoy my Switch as well.

@UssjTrunks: Lol no it really doesn't.

Least you admit without mods its not even a competition... id still give it to HZD though and when GoT comes out the gap will get even bigger.

Then show it off. And I am no kid. If you think your gaming setup blows mine away then go for it and let me see it. I can guarantee I can show off more toys than you will ever be able to afford. lol If you want to get into this battle then so be it. lol

You do not have experience with high-end PC so you believe your PS4 has better graphics than a high-end PC.

@Diddies: You can show off more toys you don't own??? Im gaming on a 65 inch Sony A8f(Oled). I got a deal on it but thats a $3800.00 tv.. you most likely have a $500 monitor. If I wanted a high end PC id build one. The problem is it isn't worth it.

And yes console exclusives look better then High end PC multiplats. When your best looking games come from Annual releases from Ubisoft and EA theres not much you can do. The days of Crytek exclusives are done its as simple as that.

lol...my computer setup cost more than your TV. And you do not think that I have a nice TV in my living room? Do you want to branch out to other things other than TVs and video games consoles/PCs? Start showing me pictures of your things since you say I am a kid and we can see who will win this battle.

And yes...you have no credibility to talk graphics as you can't compare them like I can when I can see them side-by-side. You lose. And then especially when we add graphics mod, it is like you are in last gen.

@Diddies: Sure lets compare them.. gladly. Your PC is worth more then my tv? Lol doh k! You just happen not to use your nice tv for gaming... yea that makes sense. Ive got about $10,000.00 invested in a gaming setup( not counting games) so regardless of your bullshit babble thats more then enough for a high end PC.

And no when you dont rummage aroung the internet for Jpegs then you get stomped.

Case in point...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=csvNXBxVW-g

Ill gladly take HD video comparisons and shut you down everytime. If winning awards year after year wasn't enough maybe video evidence will teach you.

No I would rather game on ultra-wide as it is completely a different way to pull you into the game. Then lets see your $10k setup and what other toys you have? I promise I have a lot more expensive toys than just electronics.

@Diddies: Ill send them in Message format if you really like.

My other major hobby is guns. . Not sure i should be posting those on the forum but ive sunk thousands into that... use to be into cars.. i still enjoy them but the loss in value each year makes my stomach turn.

Lol stop it.

We all just want to see Zaryias PC

So will PS5 play the worst version of most video game releases like PRO currently does?

That's some poor hardware choices.

Yes

I look forward to using citation from Digital Foundry or PC tech sites stating most PS5 games are better on PC.

No amount of fresh alts will change this.

I am new, but have lurked for a couple weeks. It’s so painfully obvious you don’t even have a Gaming PC