AMD's new A8-3850 chip offers CHEAP gaming on the PC thatTRASHES Intel

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Blacklight2"] Okay, I use an AMD processor but at least I'm not so far stuck up my ass to think that AMD is better than Intel. Intel supplies better products for more price but AMD offers products that are good but not as good for a little cheaper.Baxhand

I think you are. AMD products not as good? Then what do you call Intel's best tech having to resort to running BLOPS @1024x768 @ low settings so it could get "playable" framerates. That's what I call a LAUGHING stock of a tech. Intel is a MARKETING company above anything else.

Intel>>>>>>>>>>>>>AMD processors

Nvidia >>>>>>>>>>>AMD GPUs

I can post 100's of benchmarks to back these facts.

Really? Please show Intel tech running BLOPS in FULL HD 1080P without using competitiors chips? I could list 100's of benchmarks that AMD will TRASH intel. As for nVidia, nVidia beats AMD on certain benchmarks, whereas AMD beats nVidia on other. AMD on the other hand trashes Intel in EVERY GPU benchmarks.

Isn't the Intel 2500k processor like the best gaming processor by far right now? I know it killed the best 4-core AMD cpu in benchmarks. This AMD is an APU btw, not a true cpu.-RocBoys9489-

It doesn't beat it. It destroys it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Compare the benches. There's the link.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

I think you are. AMD products not as good? Then what do you call Intel's best tech having to resort to running BLOPS @1024x768 @ low settings so it could get "playable" framerates. That's what I call a LAUGHING stock of a tech. Intel is a MARKETING company above anything else.

Xtasy26

Intel>>>>>>>>>>>>>AMD processors

Nvidia >>>>>>>>>>>AMD GPUs

I can post 100's of benchmarks to back these facts.

Really? Please show Intel tech running BLOPS in FULL HD 1080P without using competitiors chips? I could list 100's of benchmarks that AMD will TRASH intel. As for nVidia, nVidia beats AMD on certain benchmarks, whereas AMD beats nVidia on other. AMD on the other hand trashes Intel in EVERY GPU benchmarks.

I would never use anything besides a stand alone solution for my Graphics?

EDIT: Tensellations says hi?

If they wre the same in power I wouldn't buy an ATI card anyways. Their drivers are hands down bad.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Intel>>>>>>>>>>>>>AMD processors

Nvidia >>>>>>>>>>>AMD GPUs

I can post 100's of benchmarks to back these facts.

Baxhand

Really? Please show Intel tech running BLOPS in FULL HD 1080P without using competitiors chips? I could list 100's of benchmarks that AMD will TRASH intel. As for nVidia, nVidia beats AMD on certain benchmarks, whereas AMD beats nVidia on other. AMD on the other hand trashes Intel in EVERY GPU benchmarks.

I would never use anything besides a stand alone solution for my Graphics?

Thank you for proving my point that Intel's GPU sucks. AMD not only beats intel in GPU's it MURDERS it.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Isn't the Intel 2500k processor like the best gaming processor by far right now? I know it killed the best 4-core AMD cpu in benchmarks. This AMD is an APU btw, not a true cpu.Baxhand

It doesn't beat it. It destroys it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Compare the benches. There's the link.

YAWN. And AMD's A8 destroy Sandy Bridge:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21208/16

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Really? Please show Intel tech running BLOPS in FULL HD 1080P without using competitiors chips? I could list 100's of benchmarks that AMD will TRASH intel. As for nVidia, nVidia beats AMD on certain benchmarks, whereas AMD beats nVidia on other. AMD on the other hand trashes Intel in EVERY GPU benchmarks.

Xtasy26

I would never use anything besides a stand alone solution for my Graphics?

Thank you for proving my point that Intel's GPU sucks. AMD not only beats intel in GPU's it MURDERS it.

Intel Murders it where PC gamers are concerned. Processors.

Your touting an onboard solution towards PC gamers?

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Isn't the Intel 2500k processor like the best gaming processor by far right now? I know it killed the best 4-core AMD cpu in benchmarks. This AMD is an APU btw, not a true cpu.Xtasy26

It doesn't beat it. It destroys it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Compare the benches. There's the link.

YAWN. And AMD's A8 destroy Sandy Bridge:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21208/16

How does that help a guy who runs sli graphics?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

I would never use anything besides a stand alone solution for my Graphics?

Baxhand

Thank you for proving my point that Intel's GPU sucks. AMD not only beats intel in GPU's it MURDERS it.

Intel Murders it where PC gamers are concerned. Processors.

Your touting an onboard solution towards PC gamers?

Uh no. AMD murder Intel where PC gamers are concerned. It's called graphics. Today's CPU's are plenty fast enough to run games. Intel's GPU's on the other hand sucks balls. AND YES I am touting on board solution for PC gamers for entry level PC's except I am not suggesting them to get Intel's crappy tech I am suggesting AMD's A8-3850 which absolutely MURDER's Intel's Sandy Bridge.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

It doesn't beat it. It destroys it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Compare the benches. There's the link.

Baxhand

YAWN. And AMD's A8 destroy Sandy Bridge:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21208/16

How does that help a guy who runs sli graphics?

It doesn't. It helps a guy who want's to want entry level PC that can game.

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

mitu123

In some applications like Crysis Warhead Radeon 6990 beats it while in other game the GTX 590 beats it.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Xtasy26

In some applications like Crysis Warhead Radeon 6990 beats it while in other game the GTX 590 beats it.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Thank you for proving my point that Intel's GPU sucks. AMD not only beats intel in GPU's it MURDERS it.

Xtasy26

Intel Murders it where PC gamers are concerned. Processors.

Your touting an onboard solution towards PC gamers?

Uh no. AMD murder Intel where PC gamers are concerned. It's called graphics. Today's CPU's are plenty fast enough to run games. Intel's GPU's on the other hand sucks balls. AND YES I am touting on board solution for PC gamers for entry level PC's except I am not suggesting them to get Intel's crappy tech I am suggesting AMD's A8-3850 which absolutely MURDER's Intel's Sandy Bridge.

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

mitu123

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Xtasy26

In some applications like Crysis Warhead Radeon 6990 beats it while in other game the GTX 590 beats it.

Wrong

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

That is 2x 580's in sli vs 2x 6970 in crossfire.

Where does it win?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Intel Murders it where PC gamers are concerned. Processors.

Your touting an onboard solution towards PC gamers?

-RocBoys9489-

Uh no. AMD murder Intel where PC gamers are concerned. It's called graphics. Today's CPU's are plenty fast enough to run games. Intel's GPU's on the other hand sucks balls. AND YES I am touting on board solution for PC gamers for entry level PC's except I am not suggesting them to get Intel's crappy tech I am suggesting AMD's A8-3850 which absolutely MURDER's Intel's Sandy Bridge.

Depends on the application. From my research i5 2500K would beat AMD's best in certain games by 15-20 FPS. In some cases it's much less than that. Hardly murdering AMD. When you compare AMD's GPU vs Intel's GPU well than it's not even a contest. Intel's best tech has to run BLOPS @ 1024x768 @ low settings to get "playable" framerrates. LOL. Whiel AMD's best can do BLOPS @5760x1080. I mean it's not even a competition.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Uh no. AMD murder Intel where PC gamers are concerned. It's called graphics. Today's CPU's are plenty fast enough to run games. Intel's GPU's on the other hand sucks balls. AND YES I am touting on board solution for PC gamers for entry level PC's except I am not suggesting them to get Intel's crappy tech I am suggesting AMD's A8-3850 which absolutely MURDER's Intel's Sandy Bridge.

Xtasy26

Depends on the application. From my research i5 2500K would beat AMD's best in certain games by 15-20 FPS. In some cases it's much less than that. Hardly murdering AMD. When you compare AMD's GPU vs Intel's GPU well than it's not even a contest. Intel's best tech has to run BLOPS @ 1024x768 @ low settings to get "playable" framerrates. LOL. Whiel AMD's best can do BLOPS @5760x1080. I mean it's not even a competition.

I guess you're right if that's the way you wanted to go with a build.

I see you run a HD6950 though. :P

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Baxhand

In some applications like Crysis Warhead Radeon 6990 beats it while in other game the GTX 590 beats it.

Wrong

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

That is 2x 580's in sli vs 2x 6970 in crossfire.

Where does it win?

Dyxlexia much? I said Crysis Warhead:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/24/asus_geforce_gtx_590_video_card_review/7

GTX 590 has to run Crysis Warhead w/ 0XAA to get playable framerates while HD 6990 can run it at the same resolution @w/ 2X AA and it still beats the GTX 590. Read carefully next time.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] Yea...but if I got a powerful GPU like a 6990 or GTX 590 I would want to get an i5 2500k processor, it would murder the AMD APU w/ same graphics cards.Baxhand

Depends on the application. From my research i5 2500K would beat AMD's best in certain games by 15-20 FPS. In some cases it's much less than that. Hardly murdering AMD. When you compare AMD's GPU vs Intel's GPU well than it's not even a contest. Intel's best tech has to run BLOPS @ 1024x768 @ low settings to get "playable" framerrates. LOL. Whiel AMD's best can do BLOPS @5760x1080. I mean it's not even a competition.

I guess you're right if that's the way you wanted to go with a build.

I see you run a HD6950 though. :P

BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. ;)

Who cares? Any PC gamer that actually wants to game on their PC is going to be getting a dedicated graphics card anyway.

Who cares? Any PC gamer that actually wants to game on their PC is going to be getting a dedicated graphics card anyway.

The_Game21x

Perhaps. But what if one can't afford to get one or can't build a PC. This is the perfect solution for pre-made entry level PC's from Dell and others. Which in turn will create greater user base for PC gamers which will help PC gaming in the long run.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Baxhand

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

How about AMD gives us bulldozer :P I been hearing about bulldozer since 2007 and its still not out :x Intel needs to hurry up with Ivy Bridge aswell.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Iantheone

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

How about AMD gives us bulldozer :P I been hearing about bulldozer since 2007 and its still not out :x Intel needs to hurry up with Ivy Bridge aswell.

GTSaiyanjin2

Any clue when x78 is going to launch?

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="Baxhand"]

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

Baxhand

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

You are holding on to age old myth that their drivers are bad. If this was 2001 then I would agree with you. I switched over from nVidia in 2008 to AMD b/c of the price/performance. I haven't had any problems with now two AMD desktop GPU's, HD 4870 and HD 6950 which I BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. It runs all my games fine at sliky smooth framerates. Need I need to remind you that nVidia's drivers caused some GTX 590 to "fry". AMD has made leaps and bounds with their drivers.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] In price to performance ratio AMD can't be beat.=p

Iantheone

It's pretty nice if you want a rig that starts coughing up blood a bit later.

At least the 920s were worth every penny and then some ;)

Valve/AMD/Intel are all moving towards CPU being powerful enough to current games

it will make PC gaming alot more popular if any laptop or pre built PC can play current games without a graphics card or needing any driver updates etc, making PC gaming more user friendly and console like

HaloinventedFPS

Valve what?

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] I wouldnt say that the difference is enough to declare one winner over another. They are pretty much even and when getting a 590 costs a couple hundred more for me its not worth the extra cost. Xtasy26

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

You are holding on to age old myth that their drivers are bad. If this was 2001 then I would agree with you. I switched over from nVidia in 2008 to AMD b/c of the price/performance. I haven't had any problems with now two AMD desktop GPU's, HD 4870 and HD 6950 which I BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. It runs all my games fine at sliky smooth framerates. Need I need to remind you that nVidia's drivers caused some GTX 590 to "fry". AMD has made leaps and bounds with their drivers.

Three of my friends with high computer knowledge drop out of BFBC2 all the time. One friend who plays wow won't tank anymore due to crashes of the gpu.

I bought one of their cards 4850, locked up all the time. I use driver sweeper and safe mode when I upgraded the drivers also.

Saying they came a long way since 2001 is right. Anyone back then could have done better. Their drivers were the worse in the business.

The drivers still need work. To say they don't well....

I don't want to go round and round about this. This is first hand experience.

I don't care i will always have a dedicated gpu, make pc gaming mainstreaming, cool, but the 12 year olds can stay on the consoles

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

How about AMD gives us bulldozer :P I been hearing about bulldozer since 2007 and its still not out :x Intel needs to hurry up with Ivy Bridge aswell.

Baxhand

Any clue when x78 is going to launch?

Looks like early 2012 and its x79

Need to put this kind of tech in Razer Switchblade. Could make it the ultimate handheld :P

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

How about AMD gives us bulldozer :P I been hearing about bulldozer since 2007 and its still not out :x Intel needs to hurry up with Ivy Bridge aswell.

GTSaiyanjin2

Any clue when x78 is going to launch?

Looks like early 2012 and its x79

I always get that mixed up with the x48 and x58. Thinking they would stay with the [8].

http://lensfire.blogspot.com/2011/07/intel-pushes-launch-sandybridge-e-and.html

Sucks I had plans to buy it this christmas!!!!

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="Baxhand"]

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

Baxhand

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

Baxhand

You are holding on to age old myth that their drivers are bad. If this was 2001 then I would agree with you. I switched over from nVidia in 2008 to AMD b/c of the price/performance. I haven't had any problems with now two AMD desktop GPU's, HD 4870 and HD 6950 which I BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. It runs all my games fine at sliky smooth framerates. Need I need to remind you that nVidia's drivers caused some GTX 590 to "fry". AMD has made leaps and bounds with their drivers.

Three of my friends with high computer knowledge drop out of BFBC2 all the time. One friend who plays wow won't tank anymore due to crashes of the gpu.

I bought one of their cards 4850, locked up all the time. I use driver sweeper and safe mode when I upgraded the drivers also.

Saying they came a long way since 2001 is right. Anyone back then could have done better. Their drivers were the worse in the business.

The drivers still need work. To say they don't well....

I don't want to go round and round about this. This is first hand experience.

Anecdotal evidence at best. If the GPU you personally tried was that bad, it might just have been bricked. Since your friends have "high computer knowledge" they might have attempted overclocking and killed the card in the process, not that such a feat indicates vast knowledge.

Isn't the Intel 2500k processor like the best gaming processor by far right now? I know it killed the best 4-core AMD cpu in benchmarks. This AMD is an APU btw, not a true cpu.-RocBoys9489-

Also, can you tell me what's the use of APU then If you'll get those messy frames.. I'll stick with my 570 notnhx A823450 chip

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Isn't the Intel 2500k processor like the best gaming processor by far right now? I know it killed the best 4-core AMD cpu in benchmarks. This AMD is an APU btw, not a true cpu._VenomX

Also, can you tell me what's the use of APU then If you'll get those messy frames.. I'll stick with my 570 notnhx A823450 chip

It's not meant for PC gamers, it's meant for laptop users in general.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't the Radeon 6990 better than than the GTX 590, or are they pretty even?

Baxhand

No.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/308?vs=298

Invalid comparison. You can't use SLI GTX 580 and CFX HD 6970 to compare the performance of the GTX 590 and HD 6990...

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

True. I will buy only nvida. Not a fanboy. I hate ATI drivers with a passion.

I wish their driver department was better :(

Baxhand

You are holding on to age old myth that their drivers are bad. If this was 2001 then I would agree with you. I switched over from nVidia in 2008 to AMD b/c of the price/performance. I haven't had any problems with now two AMD desktop GPU's, HD 4870 and HD 6950 which I BIOS flashed to a HD 6970. It runs all my games fine at sliky smooth framerates. Need I need to remind you that nVidia's drivers caused some GTX 590 to "fry". AMD has made leaps and bounds with their drivers.

Three of my friends with high computer knowledge drop out of BFBC2 all the time. One friend who plays wow won't tank anymore due to crashes of the gpu.

I bought one of their cards 4850, locked up all the time. I use driver sweeper and safe mode when I upgraded the drivers also.

Saying they came a long way since 2001 is right. Anyone back then could have done better. Their drivers were the worse in the business.

The drivers still need work. To say they don't well....

I don't want to go round and round about this. This is first hand experience.

[QUOTE="cabose38"]

Except that AMD is still two gens behind in the CPU department.

Xtasy26

Yawn...AMD's CPU's are plenty fast to run today's games. And how many gen's is Intel behind...oh wait their tech is still stuck in the 1990's b/c their best tech has to run BLOPS @1024x768 to get "playable" framerate. That's just :lol:. Talk about EPIC FAIL.

HP laptop with Llano is now up for sale.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5

It's about time that we finally got a cheap desktop solution that could play games at high HD resolutions instead of Intel's JOKE graphics.

AMD A8-3850 Dirt 2 DX 9 1680x1050:

42.9 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

18.2 FPS.

AMD A8-3850 Mass Effect 2 1680x1050:

36.4 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

20.4 FPS.

So, thanks to AMD one could build a cheap gaming PC that can run games at higher HD resolutions than consoles without breaking the bank. You could easily build a desktop for couple of hundred dollars that will enable you to game at higher resolutions than consoles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942&Tpk=A8%203850

and A8 MB are cheap too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138330&cm_re=FM1-_-13-138-330-_-Product

Just make sure you avoid Intel crap. Their technology is a JOKE as witnessed by the above benchmarks. I can't tell how many times I had friends and relatives call me up where they brought a new PC/Laptop with Intel crap inside with gazzillions of ram and HD space but they can't run games on it becuase it uses Intel crappy tech. Intel is actually HOLDING back PC gaming. It's just people buy into their marketing crap and unwittiingly buy crappy tech when AMD is VASTLY superiour to Intel. It's about time we have an ultra cheap desktop gaming solution that doesn't break the bank. :)

Xtasy26

I saw Bulldozer make it for 5.1Ghz tho :P.

Lol intel tech is crap and a joke? :| ...dude your really bad at trolling man

TheAcountantMan

No no, he means their GPUs, which have always been rubbish. Sandy Bridge's GPU is more powerful but still too weak for proper gaming. To make an entry-level gaming system built around an Intel APU you'd really need to pair it with a proper video card to get an acceptable experience whereas AMD's A8 APUs don't need any help delivering playable gaming performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5

It's about time that we finally got a cheap desktop solution that could play games at high HD resolutions instead of Intel's JOKE graphics.

AMD A8-3850 Dirt 2 DX 9 1680x1050:

42.9 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

18.2 FPS.

AMD A8-3850 Mass Effect 2 1680x1050:

36.4 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

20.4 FPS.

So, thanks to AMD one could build a cheap gaming PC that can run games at higher HD resolutions than consoles without breaking the bank. You could easily build a desktop for couple of hundred dollars that will enable you to game at higher resolutions than consoles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942&Tpk=A8%203850

and A8 MB are cheap too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138330&cm_re=FM1-_-13-138-330-_-Product

Just make sure you avoid Intel crap. Their technology is a JOKE as witnessed by the above benchmarks. I can't tell how many times I had friends and relatives call me up where they brought a new PC/Laptop with Intel crap inside with gazzillions of ram and HD space but they can't run games on it becuase it uses Intel crappy tech. Intel is actually HOLDING back PC gaming. It's just people buy into their marketing crap and unwittiingly buy crappy tech when AMD is VASTLY superiour to Intel. It's about time we have an ultra cheap desktop gaming solution that doesn't break the bank. :)

Xtasy26

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5

It's about time that we finally got a cheap desktop solution that could play games at high HD resolutions instead of Intel's JOKE graphics.

AMD A8-3850 Dirt 2 DX 9 1680x1050:

42.9 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

18.2 FPS.

AMD A8-3850 Mass Effect 2 1680x1050:

36.4 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

20.4 FPS.

So, thanks to AMD one could build a cheap gaming PC that can run games at higher HD resolutions than consoles without breaking the bank. You could easily build a desktop for couple of hundred dollars that will enable you to game at higher resolutions than consoles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942&Tpk=A8%203850

and A8 MB are cheap too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138330&cm_re=FM1-_-13-138-330-_-Product

Just make sure you avoid Intel crap. Their technology is a JOKE as witnessed by the above benchmarks. I can't tell how many times I had friends and relatives call me up where they brought a new PC/Laptop with Intel crap inside with gazzillions of ram and HD space but they can't run games on it becuase it uses Intel crappy tech. Intel is actually HOLDING back PC gaming. It's just people buy into their marketing crap and unwittiingly buy crappy tech when AMD is VASTLY superiour to Intel. It's about time we have an ultra cheap desktop gaming solution that doesn't break the bank. :)

TheAcountantMan

I saw Bulldozer make it for 5.1Ghz tho :P.

Except that AMD is still two gens behind in the CPU department.

cabose38

[QUOTE="cabose38"]

Except that AMD is still two gens behind in the CPU department.

Yawn...AMD's CPU's are plenty fast to run today's games. And how many gen's is Intel behind...oh wait their tech is still stuck in the 1990's b/c their best tech has to run BLOPS @1024x768 to get "playable" framerate. That's just :lol:. Talk about EPIC FAIL.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Okay, I use an AMD processor but at least I'm not so far stuck up my ass to think that AMD is better than Intel. Intel supplies better products for more price but AMD offers products that are good but not as good for a little cheaper.Blacklight2

I think you are. AMD products not as good? Then what do you call Intel's best tech having to resort to running BLOPS @1024x768 @ low settings so it could get "playable" framerates. That's what I call a LAUGHING stock of a tech. Intel is a MARKETING company above anything else.

Intel>>>>>>>>>>>>>AMD processors

Nvidia >>>>>>>>>>>AMD GPUs

I can post 100's of benchmarks to back these facts.

Show me one benchmark where an amd cpu even comes close to a sandy bridge.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5

It's about time that we finally got a cheap desktop solution that could play games at high HD resolutions instead of Intel's JOKE graphics.

AMD A8-3850 Dirt 2 DX 9 1680x1050:

42.9 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

18.2 FPS.

AMD A8-3850 Mass Effect 2 1680x1050:

36.4 FPS.

Intel Sandy Bridge:

20.4 FPS.

So, thanks to AMD one could build a cheap gaming PC that can run games at higher HD resolutions than consoles without breaking the bank. You could easily build a desktop for couple of hundred dollars that will enable you to game at higher resolutions than consoles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942&Tpk=A8%203850

and A8 MB are cheap too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138330&cm_re=FM1-_-13-138-330-_-Product

Just make sure you avoid Intel crap. Their technology is a JOKE as witnessed by the above benchmarks. I can't tell how many times I had friends and relatives call me up where they brought a new PC/Laptop with Intel crap inside with gazzillions of ram and HD space but they can't run games on it becuase it uses Intel crappy tech. Intel is actually HOLDING back PC gaming. It's just people buy into their marketing crap and unwittiingly buy crappy tech when AMD is VASTLY superiour to Intel. It's about time we have an ultra cheap desktop gaming solution that doesn't break the bank. :)