American Publisher Confirms NX More Powerful Than PS4/X1

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#1  Edited By ldustin
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American Publisher on NX Power

"One software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it’s currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we’re assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card"

This could be possible if Nintendo has moved away from the optical drive and HDD paradigm. They could have almost 100% more of the price of the NX invested in rendering graphics compared to the PC designs of PS4 and X1 with their mandatory installs.

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#2 lostrib
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I'll believe it when I see it

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#3 Big_Red_Button
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Who cares how powerful the consoles are?

When has a generation been won by the most powerful machine?

It's not going to be nearly as powerful as a good computer, why even worry about it?

Games are what makes a system good.

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#4 Blabadon
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Now they have to get rid of the stigma of Nintendo's name on the box and lower power.

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#5 Chutebox
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Ya, not believing shit until I see it

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#6 TJDMHEM
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cool.

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#7 clyde46
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So what? Mario in 4K?

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#8 BassMan
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Gotta love the propaganda. A 960 is nowhere near a top-of-the-line GPU. It would be on the lower end of the midrange cards.

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#9 jg4xchamp
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They will **** it up.

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#10 soulitane
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I'll wait until someone can show something to substantiate these claims

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#11 Big_Red_Button
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I love how people don't believe this, as if it's somehow difficult.

The PS4 and Xbox One were weak systems when they launched and that was 2 years ago. Making a more powerful system is not going to be difficult.

I'd prefer for them to make a less powerful system and go for a lower price point.

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#12 topgunmv
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@BassMan said:

Gotta love the propaganda. A 960 is nowhere near a top-of-the-line GPU. It would be on the lower end of the midrange cards.

It's pretty much all but confirmed that the thing is using an amd (ati now?) graphics chip anyways.

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@BassMan said:

Gotta love the propaganda. A 960 is nowhere near a top-of-the-line GPU. It would be on the lower end of the midrange cards.

lol still 960 is still much better than X1 and PS4 gpu's.

44 Gpix/s and 118 Gtex/s vs PS4's 25 Gpix/s and 57 Gtex/s.

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#14 soulitane
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@Big_Red_Button said:

I love how people don't believe this, as if it's somehow difficult.

The PS4 and Xbox One were weak systems when they launched and that was 2 years ago. Making a more powerful system is not going to be difficult.

I'd prefer for them to make a less powerful system and go for a lower price point.

"One software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it’s currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we’re assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card"

So you're saying it's believable that Nintendo is going for better hardware than what's seen in PCs? Because that's what this thread is about...

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#15 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Awesome.

Mario cell shaded cartoony games in 4K.

Seems the only way Nintendo can compete is to compete in the middle of a current generation.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Wow wow wow... let's not get crazy now. I believe it will be much more powerful than the Wii U, but I doubt it will beat even a mid-range PC.

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#17 PsychoLemons
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That just means the next Sony and Microsoft consoles will be even more powerful than the NX.

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#18 Bigboi500
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It's really something to see people's unfounded attachments to both Sony and Microsoft on System Wars.

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@jg4xchamp said:

They will **** it up.

This

No matter how powerful their hardware is Nintendo will find a way to ruin it.

It's that one stupid kid in the neighborhood that always comes out of hiding when you play something like baseball and you put him on the side holding the drinks but for some reason he STILL screws up the game taking care of only drinks.

YOU HAD ONE JOB TOMMY, HOW DID YOU RUIN THE GAME?

That's Nintendo, Nintendo is Tommy the stupid child who finds a way to ruin everything.

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#20 FinalFighters
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i hope so...For nintendo's sake.

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#21 AM-Gamer
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@Big_Red_Button: If power didn't matter we would still be on the N64.

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#22 JangoWuzHere
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@Big_Red_Button said:

Who cares how powerful the consoles are?

When has a generation been won by the most powerful machine?

It's not going to be nearly as powerful as a good computer, why even worry about it?

Games are what makes a system good.

Developers can do a lot more with a more powerful console.

I also like my games to look pretty when I play them.

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#23  Edited By SolidTy
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We'll see. Those of us old enough have heard this song and dance for many years.

If it's another Wii and Wii U, then it won't be the leaps and bounds people want.

I refuse to continually get hyped for Nintendo hardware every gen. It's been close to a decade.

I guess this means my Wii U will see earlier death than I hoped when I bought it back in 2012.

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#24 2Chalupas
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It would be shockingly stupid if it wasn't. I mean by the time it comes out, these other consoles will be 3-4 years old most likely. Of course it remains to be seen just how much more powerful, like is it more powerful than PS4 in the same way that the Wii-U is more powerful than the PS3/360? Because that would still be a joke.

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#25 kemar7856
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i7 cpu LOL yeah right nobody would buy a $600 console remember the ps3 at launch

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#26  Edited By silversix_
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Reminds me of Xbone rumors, we all know how it turned out to be, a 720p Box.

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#27 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Nintendo bout to be ballin on these beaches.

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#28  Edited By commander
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@Big_Red_Button said:

I love how people don't believe this, as if it's somehow difficult.

The PS4 and Xbox One were weak systems when they launched and that was 2 years ago. Making a more powerful system is not going to be difficult.

I'd prefer for them to make a less powerful system and go for a lower price point.

this. Hardware prices were dirt cheap last year, they have risen a bit in price now though but i remember i could buy a hd 290 for 250

a hd 290 murders what's in and xbox one and ps4.

Not to mention the cpu , that cpu in the x1 and ps4. A simple i5 would slaughter it.

I got high hopes for nintendo and they got the resources to pull this off. They need it too, otherwise they might as well not sell a console. If they try that again, then they're going to lose money, mario isn't going to keep on selling on these low tier systems.

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#29 dragonfly110
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That article seems really legitimate, and well-reviewed. I definitely agree with their statement from credible American Developer 100%

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#30 GameboyTroy
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Here's another source. Take it with a grain of salt.

Report: Dev. Kits Suggest Nintendo NX Likely More Powerful Than PS4 And Xbox One

http://www.nintendoforums.com/threads/nintendo-nx-will-have-incredibly-powerful-hardware.1963

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#31 mrbojangles25
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I've always thought of Nintendo as better than the tech peddlers out there, that try to sell by "60 fps" this and "1080p" that.

In other words, I thought of them as game-centric hardware producers. It kind of saddens me to see they're joining the race.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

I've always thought of Nintendo as better than the tech peddlers out there, that try to sell by "60 fps" this and "1080p" that.

In other words, I thought of them as game-centric hardware producers. It kind of saddens me to see they're joining the race.

This is what this generation of gamers are. Nothing but theoretical specs and hardware limits. Nintendo clung to the old ways about games being the purpose of gaming long enough. Sony and MS has shown us that you don't need games to sell consoles.

Gaming today is about perception and hype. Nothing more.

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@Bigboi500 said:

It's really something to see people's unfounded attachments to both Sony and Microsoft on System Wars.

As opposed to Nintendo's shitbricks?

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#34 locopatho
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@bunchanumbers said:

Nothing but theoretical specs and hardware limits. Nintendo clung to the old ways about games being the purpose of gaming long enough. Sony and MS has shown us that you don't need games to sell consoles.

Gaming today is about perception and hype. Nothing more.

I love that you idiots keep lying and and keep thinking that 3 games a year is "a real console" :D

Yeah, all the PS4 gamers are crying because Bloodborne, The WItcher 3, MGSV, Fallout IV, Batman, MKX, Just Cause 3, Mad Max, aren't "real" games XD

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@locopatho: If anything PS4 has been shown to be more like a movie player that plays everyone else's stuff. Outside of a handful of exclusives, a ps4 wouldn't be any different from any generic pc that plays the same thing. Actually less so because PC can do more.

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#36 Bigboi500
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@locopatho said:
@Bigboi500 said:

It's really something to see people's unfounded attachments to both Sony and Microsoft on System Wars.

As opposed to Nintendo's shitbricks?

Fanboys exist for ever company, but on System Wars, Sony and Microsoft fanboys are an infestation. Nintendo comes out with a powerful system and posters go out of their way to find it in a negative light. The other two do the same and it would be all "glory be!".

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#37 j2zon2591
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Maybe core i7 ULV (2 cores/4 Threads). Who knows, maybe it performs better than 8 weak AMD console CPUs tho.

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#38 KillOnSight
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More powerfull than ps4/xbone? Possibly, i wouldnt hold my breath though. Nintendo are re-organizing and streamlining their development strategy, bringing their consoles and handhelds closer together, an attempt to fix droughts and reinvigorate consoles in Japan maybe?..

Going from all this speculation a powerful console makes no sense when signs point to them trying to lessen the gap and achieve parity between the two.

As for having hardware beyond pc, lol. Pc is the pixel pushing god compared to consoles, Sony and Ms can pretend all they want, at the moment their consoles are steaming piles of dung, with no games.

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So someone just broke NDA to tell us this..........rrriight.

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@bunchanumbers said:

@locopatho: If anything PS4 has been shown to be more like a movie player that plays everyone else's stuff. Outside of a handful of exclusives, a ps4 wouldn't be any different from any generic pc that plays the same thing. Actually less so because PC can do more.

You can cry as hard as you like though, the Nintendo systems DO NOT come with a PC attached, and they're laughable game droughts are fucking ridiculous compared to the dozens of good, great and awesome games PS4 gets all year long :)

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#41 FireEmblem_Man
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Like they really have Intel i7's and Nvidia GTX 960's as their console? LOL It's all not true.

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#42 QuadKnight
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@ldustin said:

American Publisher on NX Power

"One software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it’s currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we’re assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card"

Sounds like straight up bullshit.

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#43 gpuking
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Knowing Nintendo's target audience and the price it aims for, it's almost impossible for it to rig some high end hardware in the box. I expect a moderately powerful system about 2-3tf that runs 1080/60 Mario games.

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#44  Edited By bunchanumbers
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@locopatho said:
@bunchanumbers said:

@locopatho: If anything PS4 has been shown to be more like a movie player that plays everyone else's stuff. Outside of a handful of exclusives, a ps4 wouldn't be any different from any generic pc that plays the same thing. Actually less so because PC can do more.

You can cry as hard as you like though, the Nintendo systems DO NOT come with a PC attached, and they're laughable game droughts are fucking ridiculous compared to the dozens of good, great and awesome games PS4 gets all year long :)

I think its kinda funny you're lashing out like this. As someone who games on PC I end up with plenty of games that are supposedly PS4 exclusive on top of so much more. Along with Xbox games, PC is already the king. According to the reports NX will even have the game issue fixed too. Imagine all those ps4 multiplats on NX along with all those great Nintendo exclusives. On top of then unifying their handheld and console teams, which means even more games. SE already announced DQ11 for NX and other devs are already chomping at the bit to get on it.

So what happens when this happens and Nintendo has all the games? PS4 hasn't done much of anything with their market share and won't do anything until Uncharted lands next year. I can't recall a sales leader who has done so little to get their lead. Sony better get the lead out.

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#45 deactivated-5920bf77daa85
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"anonymous source" and "confirm" do not belong together.

Great click-bait though.

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@Bigboi500 said:
@locopatho said:
@Bigboi500 said:

It's really something to see people's unfounded attachments to both Sony and Microsoft on System Wars.

As opposed to Nintendo's shitbricks?

Fanboys exist for ever company, but on System Wars, Sony and Microsoft fanboys are an infestation. Nintendo comes out with a powerful system and posters go out of their way to find it in a negative light. The other two do the same and it would be all "glory be!".

Hell, almost anything Nintendo and Microsoft does are considered a sin here (and on GAF) while when Sony does something Ninty and MS do is wrong (like getting Bayonetta 2 and Tomb Raider as respective exclusives), is a-OK. It's why I facepalm at the idea of Nintendo ever "getting a pass" for something so bullshit. Among that other subject...

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My NX wish list is to be as powerful or more powerful than current gen consoles and Wii U backward compatibility would make it extra sweater. That would be day one purchase if these two things become true.

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#48 Daious
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Didn't AMD already heavily hint that they have this console agreement in the bag?

I wonder if Nintendo is using the new zen chips? If so, it could be very pricey.

I am not inclined to believe this rumor. However, I do see it being more powerful than the ps4 but no where close to what the poster in the link claims.

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#49 so_hai
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1 source isn't very compelling.

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#50  Edited By Bigboi500
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@nintendoboy16: I often wonder just how much of this hate is real, or a shtick? Not just with Nintendo, but everyone. So many times I see people defending one company or another, and then when I check to see if they actually play games of the company they defend, more often than not, they don't.

Conclusion: a large portion of posters here are fake.