American Publisher Confirms NX More Powerful Than PS4/X1

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#101 stuff238
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Nintendo already confirmed they will NOT be making an expensive console.

They also confirmed they refuse to lose money on hardware.

Nintendo has a history of being cheap and lazy.

Nintendo has a history of lying about the amazing power of their consoles before launch. The wii u being the most recent example. You can go to youtube and watch Reggie boast about wii u's HD graphics and how powerful it is and it will attract 3rd parties...... LOL

Nintendo already confirmed NX will be backwards compatible with wii u....which means it will be gimped to do that.

Logic says that if gamers refuse to spend $250+ on a nintendo console NOW, then making a more expensive nintendo console is an even dumber idea. Nintendo has the reputation of being a cheap kiddy toy company and consumers want value. The only way Nintendo is going to convince people to buy their terrible console is to sell it cheap at the $149-$199 range.

Anyone who actually believes nintendo is making a powerful console is in for a rude awakening. I expect the NX to have 3GB RAM at most including the OS and BC with wii u.

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#102 Desmonic  Moderator
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Well... this thread is going exactly how I'd expect it to go! :D

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#103 Razik
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LOL a Nintendo system running all next gen titles at 1080p 60FPS would be glorious, how would SW handle that

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#104 BobRossPerm
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@Pikminmaniac said:

I don't care what the specs are. I just want Nintendo to stick around in the console arena making the games I love. It would be great if they could get the 3rd party support in addition to their quality output though. That would be the ultimate machine.

Well you should care because it's the only way Nintendo can keep making consoles. If this turns out to be another WiiU, I can safely say they are fucked. Being the most powerful will be the best for marketing, and actual game performance too so it's something I'm actually really hoping for.

There's way too much of this ''I don't care how shit the console is as long as I get their games'' from Nintendo fanboys. It's like they are keeping them down. It's weird as **** to me.

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#105  Edited By BobRossPerm
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@razik said:

LOL a Nintendo system running all next gen titles at 1080p 60FPS would be glorious, how would SW handle that

It would be the best thing to happen to consoles since the PS2.

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#106 nethernova
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@adamosmaki said:

you mean to tell me nintendo will make a console with a CPU better than an i7 skylake (which draws around 100W on its own and cost about $350 ) and a GPU around 390/gtx980 performance (which they draw another 250-300W on their own and cost about $400)

Slap on the price for an included handheld. The Wii U gamepad already costs about $150 to replace, which basically stops me from getting mine repaired. But yeah, people here really believe that and "hope they keep the price low". Lulz.

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Imagine

No, thanks. I prefer to stay realistic. But you can keep living in your world full of rainbows and unicorns.

That being said: I'm always looking forward to a new system. Even if it's Nintendo.

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#107 Soethi6
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Complete 3rd party support on a nintendo console with superior graphics to PS4 and XBOX One? Yep, I'll take it!

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#108 Shrek
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@Big_Red_Button: The ps4 is currently the most powerful and it's winning. So...

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#109  Edited By SonySoldier-_-
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I can't wait to see a new Legend of Zelda and Metroid Prime with jaw dropping next gen graphics!!

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#110  Edited By SonySoldier-_-
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@Big_Red_Button said:

Who cares how powerful the consoles are?

umm a lot of people care about how powerful consoles are

When has a generation been won by the most powerful machine?

the generation we're in right now..

It's not going to be nearly as powerful as a good computer, why even worry about it?

nobody is "worried" about.. just intrigued.

Games are what makes a system good.

no shit

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#111 GameboyTroy
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This is just very interesting to me. This thread is blowing up.

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/10/16/report-dev-kits-suggests-nintendo-nx-likely-more-powerful-than-ps4-and-xbox-one/

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#112  Edited By EducatingU_PCMR
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Well, remember PS4 is also a "supercharged PC".

I wouldn't hold my breath. Best case scenario a Tonga based chip.

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@GameboyTroy said:

This is just very interesting to me. This thread is blowing up.

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/10/16/report-dev-kits-suggests-nintendo-nx-likely-more-powerful-than-ps4-and-xbox-one/

There is a thread about that on the front page here.

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#114 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@razik said:

LOL a Nintendo system running all next gen titles at 1080p 60FPS would be glorious, how would SW handle that

I think there would finally be peace in SW.

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#115  Edited By misterpmedia
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Wouldn't there be more worry if it wasn't? It's a gen 9 console. If it isn't it will hurt lol.

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#116 Yams1980
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i doubt this. They lose any amount of credibility when they say the nx cpu outperforms intel 400 dollar skylake. not a chance in hell. knowing nintendo, the NX will probably be about the same power as the xbox 360.

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#117 ReadingRainbow4
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Give me the Powa.

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#119 deactivated-59d151f079814
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@Yams1980: I agree with that.. The PS4 and XboxOne cpu's are like a 3rd of the strength of the Sandy Bridge i5's released in 2011...

... This isn't exactly hard.. The PS4 currently is outdone by a considerable margin by a entry level pc with a 750ti and i3..

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#120  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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There's just no way in hell the NX (or any other console from now on) will have a top of the line CPU, because you can't have one of those and also have a beefy gpu in a console sized box anymore. Look at the Wii U, and the new HD twins, the gpu's in all 3 are much bigger than the CPU and that size ratio will stay the same.

So I could maaaybe believe it has a top of the line gpu (if it uses a 14/16nm process) but the cpu part of this rumor makes it fake. But I do hope they use cartridges really badly, for a lot of reasons. That'll keep costs of the unit down, games would be more durable and load instantly so there'd be no need for an HDD either which'd keep costs down. Cartridges are just the superior format.

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#121 Gue1
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@Chozofication:

what you say it's very true. Especially when everything points out to a future where the GPU will do everything and the CPU will just feed it. But this is Nintendo we are talking about, these guys do things their way even if it's detrimental.

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#122 shellcase86
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@Jaysonguy said:
@jg4xchamp said:

They will **** it up.

This

No matter how powerful their hardware is Nintendo will find a way to ruin it.

It's that one stupid kid in the neighborhood that always comes out of hiding when you play something like baseball and you put him on the side holding the drinks but for some reason he STILL screws up the game taking care of only drinks.

YOU HAD ONE JOB TOMMY, HOW DID YOU RUIN THE GAME?

That's Nintendo, Nintendo is Tommy the stupid child who finds a way to ruin everything.

Ditto. This thing will fall flat.

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#123 hrt_rulz01
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@lostrib said:

I'll believe it when I see it

Yep.

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@cainetao11: I'm just tired of people saying it doesn't matter.... It does especially if you are trying to appeal to the core gamer and want any chance of third party support. There is absolutely no reason for this console to not be more powerful then the PS4/XB1.

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#126 servomaster
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Well the wiiU is stronger than the PS3/Xbox 360

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#127 emgesp
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Nintendo needs more than powerful hardware to get third parties back on board.

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#128  Edited By soulitane
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@AM-Gamer said:

@cainetao11: I'm just tired of people saying it doesn't matter.... It does especially if you are trying to appeal to the core gamer and want any chance of third party support. There is absolutely no reason for this console to not be more powerful then the PS4/XB1.

Pretty much. Whilst people on here like to say graphics don't matter (and to me they don't), a lot of people like to play games with great graphics. Releasing a console that doesn't have the option to have such games, or even play most multiplat games is essentially suicide at this point.

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#129 Boddicker
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Not a really a big surprise considering the PS4 and X1 are 2 years old now and they entered the planning stages 3-4 years ago. Still waiting on official specs from Nintendo.

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@soulitane said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@cainetao11: I'm just tired of people saying it doesn't matter.... It does especially if you are trying to appeal to the core gamer and want any chance of third party support. There is absolutely no reason for this console to not be more powerful then the PS4/XB1.

Pretty much. Whilst people on here like to say graphics don't matter (and to me they don't), a lot of people like to play games with great graphics. Releasing a console that doesn't have the option to have such games, or even play most multiplat games is essentially suicide at this point.

But reading how people discuss graphics here, if a game isn't breaking new ground it looks meh. I'm thankful I'm not into pettiness like that but many cry like nothing looks good.

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#131  Edited By soulitane
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@cainetao11 said:
@soulitane said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@cainetao11: I'm just tired of people saying it doesn't matter.... It does especially if you are trying to appeal to the core gamer and want any chance of third party support. There is absolutely no reason for this console to not be more powerful then the PS4/XB1.

Pretty much. Whilst people on here like to say graphics don't matter (and to me they don't), a lot of people like to play games with great graphics. Releasing a console that doesn't have the option to have such games, or even play most multiplat games is essentially suicide at this point.

But reading how people discuss graphics here, if a game isn't breaking new ground it looks meh. I'm thankful I'm not into pettiness like that but many cry like nothing looks good.

Of course it goes both ways here. There are also many members who seem to only care about the graphics, which is pretty stupid in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned nearly every game these days looks pretty good.

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#132 GameboyTroy
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Uh, guys. Did you see this?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=182030474#post182030474

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#134 ldustin
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Yep, it's happening. It's like a thousand fanboys cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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#135 deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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Smash Bro's in 4K.

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#136  Edited By deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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@bunchanumbers: I agree with you here.

Out of MS,Sony and Nintendo....Sony has done the least.

I personally think MS has done the most....because they had to compensate for their bad start. I also think Xbox One is in better hands now than back then.

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#137  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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I heard rumor that the NX is more powerful then the PS4 and Xbox One put together. Most would be shocked at such a rumor, but let us not forget how truly weak those two systems are. Heck, the Wii U is not far from them, its embarrassing.

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#138 BIOKILLER123
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@misterpmedia: Exactly. It should be expected that a 9th gen system to be more powerful than the 8th gen systems. Even the Wii U is a bit more powerful than the PS3 and 360.

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#139 tormentos
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I don't see why this would be a surprise the PS4 is based on a mid/low Spring 2012 GPU,the NX will arrive what 2016 soonest.?

So if the GPU is 2014 mid/low or mid it will have no problem what so ever beating the PS4,hell i say they can do it for $400 next year and will lose little if anything.

Now if the aim for something high than mid they will truly surprise me but is not the first time nintendo makes a powerful console the Snes was,the N64 hthe GC as well,were very capable of its gen.

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@stuff238 said:

Nintendo already confirmed they will NOT be making an expensive console.

They also confirmed they refuse to lose money on hardware.

Nintendo has a history of being cheap and lazy.

Nintendo has a history of lying about the amazing power of their consoles before launch. The wii u being the most recent example. You can go to youtube and watch Reggie boast about wii u's HD graphics and how powerful it is and it will attract 3rd parties...... LOL

Nintendo already confirmed NX will be backwards compatible with wii u....which means it will be gimped to do that.

Logic says that if gamers refuse to spend $250+ on a nintendo console NOW, then making a more expensive nintendo console is an even dumber idea. Nintendo has the reputation of being a cheap kiddy toy company and consumers want value. The only way Nintendo is going to convince people to buy their terrible console is to sell it cheap at the $149-$199 range.

Anyone who actually believes nintendo is making a powerful console is in for a rude awakening. I expect the NX to have 3GB RAM at most including the OS and BC with wii u.

1 - Nintendo could make a PS4 level console for cheap.

2 - Nintendo would lose no money making a PS4 level console for $299

3 - Nintendo does not have a history of being cheap and lazy. Where are you getting that? Just because they don't take a loss on consoles at launch like the competition doesn't make them lazy. They also haven't had the hardware failures the other 2 have. How is that lazy?

4 - How did Reggie lie about the power of the Wii U? Most of it was PR speak and the Wii U had great 3rd party support for the 1st year it was out. The Wii U got Mass Effect, Madden, Assassins Creed etc. It wasn't until the PS4 and Xbox One were on the horizon that 3rd parties pulled back.

5 - How does backwards compatibility gimp a console? That makes no sense. Was the launch PS3 gimped compared to the later models? Is the Xbox One weaker now that it was at launch?

6 - You must not have been alive during the Wii era. You know, when everyone including your Grandparents bought a Wii. The Wii U is a flop. Nintendo has come back from flops in the past and who is to say they can't do it again?

7 - How does the amount of RAM = power? Let me guess, you bought in to the 8GB of GDDR5 hype? The GPU is the most important part of a powerful console. The GPU in the PS4 is the reason it's the most powerful console. Not the amount of RAM it has.


The PS4 and Xbox One were both a change of pace in the console race. Console makers have had a history of taking large losses on consoles sold and making those losses up selling games. With the PS4 and Xbox One, both companies came out of the gate making money but that gave us weaker consoles as a result. Luckily for Nintendo, they can make an equivalent to these 2 year consoles even cheaper in an attempt to win back some 3rd party support.

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#141  Edited By thedork_knight
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lol at all the cows dc. if true there gonna be alot less cows on sw when it releases

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#142 freedom01  Moderator
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I'll wait for an official spec reveal from Nintendo, But as long it gets great games, then I dont mind what the specs are

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#143 tushar172787
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lel, i7 skylake costs 350$ on it's own... plus it draws so much power..

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#144 Coolyfett
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@Big_Red_Button: correct games are what makes systems great, these devs overhyped the Wii U and the 3DS as well. The new Nintendo System will only have pretty 1st party games. The 3rd Parties will never return. This is Nintendo folks.....seriously.

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#145 Coolyfett
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@SolidTy: Are you on PlayStation?

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#146 Coolyfett
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@Bigboi500: how do you check? How can you tell if someone is a Nintendo gamer, how can it be tracked?

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@ldustin: i would have laughed if it wasn't

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#148 Coolyfett
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@APiranhaAteMyVa: children and casual women do play a lot of Nintendo, are you on PSN?

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#149  Edited By cainetao11
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@soulitane said:
@cainetao11 said:
@soulitane said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@cainetao11: I'm just tired of people saying it doesn't matter.... It does especially if you are trying to appeal to the core gamer and want any chance of third party support. There is absolutely no reason for this console to not be more powerful then the PS4/XB1.

Pretty much. Whilst people on here like to say graphics don't matter (and to me they don't), a lot of people like to play games with great graphics. Releasing a console that doesn't have the option to have such games, or even play most multiplat games is essentially suicide at this point.

But reading how people discuss graphics here, if a game isn't breaking new ground it looks meh. I'm thankful I'm not into pettiness like that but many cry like nothing looks good.

Of course it goes both ways here. There are also many members who seem to only care about the graphics, which is pretty stupid in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned nearly every game these days looks pretty good.

Agreed. I started playing in the late 1970s on a Pong console. When you have that long in gaming your perspective is different. Everything is amazing to me. I never could have imagined gaming being what it is now, back then.

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#150 Big_Red_Button
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@notorious1234na: But that's bullshit and you know it.

Wii beat PS3 by a wide, wide margin, in terms of sales.

PS4 hasn't won yet. Last generation PS3 was getting absolutely wrecked for the first three years by 360 and then it pulled ahead.