An HD Wii would have been complete industry OWNAGE

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#1 right4dead
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imagine the wii was released with full hd, i think that would have stomped out the competition. i mean, the biggest gripe about the wii is the graphics, which leads to crappier games, an hd wii would have had all the great multiplats on the ps3 and 360, plus the wii exclusives, plus COD hd....

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#2 Adamantium4k2
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I'm already playing Wii games in HD...however, I can't discuss in detail for fear of getting modded:(

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#3 meetroid8
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Do you mean just HD, or that the entire system was comparable to the 360/PS3? If you meant the latter then Nintendo wouldn't have been able to offer it for only 250$ and it wouldn't be the tremendous success it is today, if you meant the former then I have to ask; What would be the point?
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#4 ALTAIR360
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loool...

its the controls....

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#5 nintendoboy16
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I can tell you, people would be whining about Nintendo even if they added HD to the Wii. So no, it won't help that much.
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#6 Kashiwaba
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If Wii was HD then the price would have been higher so no it won't stomp the competition.

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#7 James161324
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It it had the same 3rd party support, nope it still would be a joke, the sub hd just adds to the joke

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#8 osan0
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it cost sony 800 quid to make a PS3...600 quid for a 360 to make for MS at launch. if nintendo released a 600 euro console then they would now be out of the console market (stop cheering down back! :P). they dont (and especially didnt at the time of the wiis release) have the capacity to shoulder 100-200 dollar loses per unit sold for a couple of years...they have no other divisions to draw funds from. still now doing the HD thing properly. shouldnt cost too much money. im excited to see what ninty have up their sleeve for the wii2. i dont think itll make current high end PCs sweat or anything but im hoping for a big jump from the wii.
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#9 nameless12345
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There is already a way to play Wii games in HD but you need a strong PC.

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#10 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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I agree a wii with similar hardware compared to 360 and ps3 would probably been **** kickass, even if games wouldn't use the wii mote.

I would had been a "two in one" console.

However i hate the state it is in now.

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#11 Demonjoe93
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There are people out there that will always despise Nintendo for no real reasons other than it is a popular developer that makes popular games and that don't almost exclusively makes M rated games with gore, cussing, and sexual content so no, these changes wouldn't stop anyone from hating the Wii.

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#12 Demonjoe93
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It it had the same 3rd party support, nope it still would be a joke, the sub hd just adds to the joke

James161324

How would it still be a joke then?

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#13 BedBugMan
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Well, considering the Wii has sold like hot cakes this gen, I'm not sure why HD would really make them "own" more... but HD Wii would be nice. It's 2011. The Wii needs HD.
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#14 James161324
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

It it had the same 3rd party support, nope it still would be a joke, the sub hd just adds to the joke

Demonjoe93

How would it still be a joke then?

No third party support

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#15 BedBugMan
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There are people out there that will always despise Nintendo for no real reasons other than it is a popular developer that makes popular games and that don't almost exclusively makes M rated games with gore, cussing, and sexual content.

Demonjoe93
Let's be honest, the Wii's extreme amount of shovelware hasnt done Nintendo any favors in the eyes of alot of gamers this gen. Not really Nintendo's fault, but it's a fair criticism IMO. The Wii has alot of great games... but it has alot more horrible games, again, IMO.
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#16 WilliamRLBaker
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I'm already playing Wii games in HD...however, I can't discuss in detail for fear of getting modded:(

Adamantium4k2

I play my wii in hd there is a converter box that takes the component and will change it to hdmi and you can upscale 480p to 720p, 1080i..etc and its not illegal at all...

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#17 WilliamRLBaker
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As for that hd is not the reason I never play my Wii...the fact there isn't a single game on the system I want to play is the problem.

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#18 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

It it had the same 3rd party support, nope it still would be a joke, the sub hd just adds to the joke

James161324

How would it still be a joke then?

No third party support

But didn't you say it would still be a joke even with the 3rd party support in your previous post?

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#19 Snyper-007
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As for that hd is not the reason I never play my Wii...the fact there isn't a single game on the system I want to play is the problem.

WilliamRLBaker

thats because you play your PS3 all the time and SONY is #1 imho

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#20 PoindeJ
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All you need to do is wait 'til the Super Wii is released.

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#21 Marka1700
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But would it still have the same control system I am not too fond of.
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#22 ultraking
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[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

I'm already playing Wii games in HD...however, I can't discuss in detail for fear of getting modded:(

WilliamRLBaker

I play my wii in hd there is a converter box that takes the component and will change it to hdmi and you can upscale 480p to 720p, 1080i..etc and its not illegal at all...

really? whats the name of the converter , i want one. The wii's jaggies kill my eyes

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#23 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

I'm already playing Wii games in HD...however, I can't discuss in detail for fear of getting modded:(

WilliamRLBaker

I play my wii in hd there is a converter box that takes the component and will change it to hdmi and you can upscale 480p to 720p, 1080i..etc and its not illegal at all...

Wont change the resolution of the game, just change output. In short it will look the same.
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#24 Sp4rtan_3
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A non HD wii has accomplished that already :|

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#25 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

I'm already playing Wii games in HD...however, I can't discuss in detail for fear of getting modded:(

Robbazking

I play my wii in hd there is a converter box that takes the component and will change it to hdmi and you can upscale 480p to 720p, 1080i..etc and its not illegal at all...

Wont change the resolution of the game, just change output. In short it will look the same.

Actually upscaling does quite a bit...
http://www.bing.com/search?q=wii%20hdmi%20adapter&PQ=Wii%20hd&SP=5&QS=AS&SK=AS4&sc=8-6&form=BSRTSS&pc=BBSR

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#26 painguy1
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I have an HD Wii....kinda, but let me put it this way...there isn't much difference than playing on an actual Wii.

really? whats the name of the converter , i want one. The wii's jaggies kill my eyes ultraking

dude dont bother. The jaggies are still there. Your TV already upscales the Wii. A $70 device wont do much other than make the jaggies more sharper lol. I have a $500 reciever that upscales as well (most likely better than that device) & there is very little difference. Nothing will change the resolution of the game.

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#27 MrJack3690
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thats because you play your PS3 all the time and SONY is #1 imho

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So first you were copying Sniper4321? and now you're copying Swag? :P

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#28 vashkey
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, the biggest gripe about the wii is the graphics, which leads to crappier games, an hd wii would have had all the great multiplats on the ps3 and 360, plus the wii exclusives, plus COD hd....

right4dead

Making the Wii able to output HD res does not mean the graphics would inherently become better. If they released a new Wii model that was on par with the 360/PS3 then it would be a new platform all together.

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#29 WilliamRLBaker
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I have an HD Wii....kinda, but let me put it this way...there isn't much difference than playing on an actual Wii.

[QUOTE="ultraking"]really? whats the name of the converter , i want one. The wii's jaggies kill my eyes painguy1

dude dont bother. The jaggies are still there. Your TV already upscales the Wii. A $70 device wont do much other than make the jaggies more sharper lol. I have a $500 reciever that upscales as well (most likely better than that device) & there is very little difference. Nothing will change the resolution of the game.

I've used it and games look markedly better, and quite a few friends use one and it works. More sharper?

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#30 mariokart64fan
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the wii is fine the way it is ,

you people who do cry for hd andgraphics are the real joke ,

cause let me tell you what the hd systems have been known for is their expensive games and their 200 first person shooters on the shelft nothing good is known about them

except maybe sonys exclusives or a few game like saintsrow 2 gta iv or so , the wii is not a bad system it has tons of exclusive games worth mentioning i dont care bout what ps3 306 has as far as multiplats cause heres why ,

why would you want all 3 to have the same exact games any how just get a wii and the other console , or all 3

they tried that last gen and look ps2 just stomped both xbox and gamecube to the ground if ms continued with that kind of console with only 26 m sales world wide -they would have been out before they even got started thats a known fact look at sega -never held the lead in any war , never was a factor and for the record if nintendo did hd console what difference wouold it actually make now that theres already 2 that do that ,, ,

not much i can tell you its not the graphics people whine about its brand ! its been known for a long time nintendo is very under rated when it comes to consoles,

people do not respect them regardless if they had the most powerful console or the weakest power in its console ,

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#31 painguy1
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the wii is fine the way it is ,

you people who do cry for hd andgraphics are the real joke ,

cause let me tell you what the hd systems have been known for is their expensive games and their 200 first person shooters on the shelft nothing good is known about them

except maybe sonys exclusives or a few game like saintsrow 2 gta iv or so , the wii is not a bad system it has tons of exclusive games worth mentioning i dont care bout what ps3 306 has as far as multiplats cause heres why ,

why would you want all 3 to have the same exact games any how just get a wii and the other console , or all 3

they tried that last gen and look ps2 just stomped both xbox and gamecube to the ground if ms continued with that kind of console with only 26 m sales world wide -they would have been out before they even got started thats a known fact look at sega -never held the lead in any war , never was a factor and for the record if nintendo did hd console what difference wouold it actually make now that theres already 2 that do that ,, ,

not much i can tell you its not the graphics people whine about its brand ! its been known for a long time nintendo is very under rated when it comes to consoles,

people do not respect them regardless if they had the most powerful console or the weakest power in its console ,

mariokart64fan

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#32 LovePotionNo9
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The Wii is already stomping the competition with sales greater than the two below it combined. I guess it's a given an HD version, essentially the same console by extension (few modifications) would stomp the competition.

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#33 Shielder7
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imagine the wii was released with full hd, i think that would have stomped out the competition. i mean, the biggest gripe about the wii is the graphics, which leads to crappier games, an hd wii would have had all the great multiplats on the ps3 and 360, plus the wii exclusives, plus COD hd....

right4dead
Nintendo was in dire trouble, took themselves out of the high tech race and made a stab at catering to the casual public and got lucky with soccer moms and little kids. Who knew? And no don't expect them to turn a 180 and go core again they have already stated the Wii 2 will be once again for casuals (i.e. Family) Type and very affordable so don't expect the Wii 2 to be much more powerful than the 360 is now if that.
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#34 LegatoSkyheart
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So you think things would have changed if Metroid Other M would look like this.

instead of this?

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#35 CubanCruzader
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With the playstation move and kinect the wii now has nothing innovative about it. Other than remaking the same games over and over like mario, zelda, and donkey kong now...Not that I dont like those games, but the wii just shouldnt be taken that seriously.

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#36 93BlackHawk93
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With the playstation move and kinect the wii now has nothing innovative about it. Other than remaking the same games over and over like mario, zelda, and donkey kong now...Not that I dont like those games, but the wii just shouldnt be taken that seriously.

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#37 LegatoSkyheart
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With the playstation move and kinect the wii now has nothing innovative about it. Other than remaking the same games over and over like mario, zelda, and donkey kong now...Not that I dont like those games, but the wii just shouldnt be taken that seriously.

CubanCruzader

There was nothing innovative about the 360 or PS3.

Kinect maybe a bit more innovative, but the Wii Should at least be taken for Consideration with it's games like Epic Mickey, Goldeneye, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Red Steel, No More Heroes and Monster Hunter.

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#38 godzillavskong
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Do you mean just HD, or that the entire system was comparable to the 360/PS3? If you meant the latter then Nintendo wouldn't have been able to offer it for only 250$ and it wouldn't be the tremendous success it is today, if you meant the former then I have to ask; What would be the point?meetroid8
This. HD chip would have raised the cost for sure, and I don't know that everyone would've rushed out and purchased one. Especially the so-called casual market.
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#39 TheMoreYouOwn
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Nah, cause it'd still have the same games.
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#40 Vesica_Prime
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i mean, the biggest gripe about the wii is the graphics, which leads to crappier games,

right4dead

And PC gamers are the one always yapping on about graphics.

Anyway in case you have been living in a cave, the Wii is dominating the console market.

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#41 goblaa
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No.

This would be the situation:

-Wii launches at $499.

-Only hardcore nintendo nerds buy it, no one else does because $499 is a ludicrous price for a console.

-Wiimote still is just basic waggle.

-Nintendo still is not ready for online.

-Gamers still complain that the games are zelda, mario, and metroid all over again.

-Third parties still avoid the thing like the plague because the gamecube was a flop and the wiimote is scary.

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#42 hakanakumono
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It would be the HD console with terrible controls.

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#43 tomarlyn
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We mortals can merely dream of better days when Nintendo competed in such ways.
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#44 J-man45
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I can tell you, people would be whining about Nintendo even if they added HD to the Wii. So no, it won't help that much.nintendoboy16

This all the way

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#45 Mr_BillGates
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It would still lack good 3rd party games and continue to use that crappy controller. Cartoon-graphics in HD is not really interesting at all.

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#46 J-man45
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No.

This would be the situation:

-Wii launches at $499.

-Only hardcore nintendo nerds buy it, no one else does because $499 is a ludicrous price for a console.

-Wiimote still is just basic waggle.

-Nintendo still is not ready for online.

-Gamers still complain that the games are zelda, mario, and metroid all over again.

-Third parties still avoid the thing like the plague because the gamecube was a flop and the wiimote is scary.

goblaa

*Thinks about PS3 launch price and lols*

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#47 Phazevariance
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imagine the wii was released with full hd, i think that would have stomped out the competition. i mean, the biggest gripe about the wii is the graphics, which leads to crappier games, an hd wii would have had all the great multiplats on the ps3 and 360, plus the wii exclusives, plus COD hd....

right4dead

Except it would have costed a lot more and probably wouldn't have sold to casual gamers becuase of the high price. So yes and no. It would sell well now, but not back then. Which is exactly why Nintendo kept it non HD and also why next Nintendo system will almost 100% be HD.

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#48 Pray_to_me
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The fact that Wii was hundreds of dollers less then PS360 had nothing to do with its success?

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#49 foxhound_fox
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If Wii was HD then the price would have been higher so no it won't stomp the competition.

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The Wii cost around $190 USD to manufacture at the beginning of its life span and was sold for $250 USD. A $300 USD Wii would have sold just as well (considering people bought $600 USD PS3's and $400 USD 360's) especially if it had better hardware, Blu-ray player and all its current features from the start.

So yes, a more expensive, and better, Wii, would have stomped the competition even more.

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#50 Mrmccormo
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OH myths....

People don't realize that the whole "Wii HD!" thing didn't get started until the shill Michael Pachter began preaching it. 3rd-party devs have a vested interest in an HD Wii, because then they can (for example) release the same version of Black Ops across four platforms instead of three and rake in even more cash. An HD Wii would cater to a very small percentage of the fanbase who actually bought a Wii.