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#51 G-O-M-J
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I completely disagree with his review of halo 3 campaign. I thought it was really bad. I loved halo 1, thought halo 2 was okay, thought halo 3 was horrible.

nhh18

i'll never understand why people say they halo 3 was horrible and previous halos were good, they are all pretty much exactly the same, people didnt call it halo 2.5 for no reason...

Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

well i disagree with you, i dont play halo for the story nor do i know anyone that does, its just a simple fun shooter thats easy to pick up and play nobody plays halo to "connect" with it lol..
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#52 jg4xchamp
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A forum post? you used a forum post for a "honest review" :|
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#53 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"][QUOTE="nhh18"]

i'll never understand why people say they halo 3 was horrible and previous halos were good, they are all pretty much exactly the same, people didnt call it halo 2.5 for no reason...G-O-M-J
Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

well i disagree with you, i dont play halo for the story nor do i know anyone that does, its just a simple fun shooter thats easy to pick up and play nobody plays halo to "connect" with it lol..

I and many of my friends do. Just laying it out on the table.
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#54 mtradr43
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A forum post? you used a forum post for a "honest review" :|jg4xchamp
just as reputable as cows posting about what basically was a wikipedia review
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#55 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]i'll never understand why people say they halo 3 was horrible and previous halos were good, they are all pretty much exactly the same, people didnt call it halo 2.5 for no reason...SpiritOfFire117

Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

Giant spider fight? Now your opinion = null.

his opinion is null because he couldn't remember the name of the scarabs :?
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#56 Syn_Valence
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its not enough to justify the price tag.......all this could have been taken care of as a 25 dollar download.......not a freakin full priced game........still fail

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#57 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]A forum post? you used a forum post for a "honest review" :|mtradr43
just as reputable as cows posting about what basically was a wikipedia review

So they post a stupid useless review and you guys just try to one up them on posting on another even more useless stupid review? They posted from a blog, the lemmings posted from a forum. Can we get some publications, websites(that have more well written reviews) etc reviews before we call those other reviews legit.
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#58 mtradr43
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its not enough to justify the price tag.......all this could have been taken care of as a 25 dollar download.......not a freakin full priced game........still fail

Syn_Valence
you do know that the campaign is longer than games like heavenly sword and stuff (actually, the campaign is about the length of a normal shooter), it has a new mp mode with it with 10 maps just for it, and it has all halo 3 mp with 40 dollars worth of maps on it. sounds worth it to me, especially if you dont have any of the maps.
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#59 Syn_Valence
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and i was over at my friends house and watched it being played.........and im going to leave it at that so i dont get in trouble......all i can say the music is sooooooooooo GODLY i love it.........depressing and beautiful

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#60 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

jg4xchamp

Giant spider fight? Now your opinion = null.

his opinion is null because he couldn't remember the name of the scarabs :?

No that just told me he didn't know what he was talking about and that it must had been a long time since he played any Halo game. So I stopped taking him seriously.

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#61 Dead-Memories
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From the campaign footage, and the ending I've seen, it reaks of mediocrity.

It might just be me, but this game is as far of a Halo game in depth as I've ever seen. Definitely a let-down for me, no exciting chase sequence, no intense climax.

Just all very, average, hope i'm wrong though.

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#62 jg4xchamp
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He played halo 3 multiple times and enjoyed it

his opinion = null. Terrible campaign. The first level was great. And then it just plummets after that first level. My hatred of the campaign is more than halo 2 tbh.

nhh18


1- Personal opinion on a game doesn't make the reviews or another persons opinion horrible. For instance I think MGS 4 has a HORRIBLE ending, Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 have mediocre campaigns, Gears of War 1/2 had mediocre multiplayer, Fable 2 is just underwhelming, and well the list could go on all day.

2- Halo 3s campaign was inconsistant but it was probably still better than Halo 2. The franchise peaked at the 7th mission with the double scarabs, and nose dived for the final 2 missions which was flood only.

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#63 enterawesome
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Er, that isn't a proffessional reviewer, thats a guy on a forum. I certainly hope its that good though.
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#64 shakmaster13
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Why are you quoting a neogaf post as an honest review?

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#65 Syn_Valence
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[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

its not enough to justify the price tag.......all this could have been taken care of as a 25 dollar download.......not a freakin full priced game........still fail

mtradr43
you do know that the campaign is longer than games like heavenly sword and stuff (actually, the campaign is about the length of a normal shooter), it has a new mp mode with it with 10 maps just for it, and it has all halo 3 mp with 40 dollars worth of maps on it. sounds worth it to me, especially if you dont have any of the maps.

look what microshaft has done.........brainwashing......you need to ask better of your game developers........slap halo on it.........and watch the cattle come in.....and i think the nick names need to be changed
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#66 jg4xchamp
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From the campaign footage, and the ending I've seen, it reaks of mediocrity.

It might just be me, but this game is as far of a Halo game in depth as I've ever seen. Definitely a let-down for me, no exciting chase sequence, no intense climax.

Just all very, average, hope i'm wrong though.

Dead-Memories
if your taking the youtube footage...I would look at that with a grain of salt....mostly because he was playing on Easy. I think Heroic/Normal would provide far more thrills.....if your talking just core mechanics in general...than fair game.
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#67 jg4xchamp
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and i was over at my friends house and watched it being played.........and im going to leave it at that so i dont get in trouble......all i can say the music is sooooooooooo GODLY i love it.........depressing and beautiful

Syn_Valence
Marty O'Donnell is the freakin man. Bungie could literally make a game as bad as Big Rigs and it would still have an epic score because of that man.
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#68 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"][QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

its not enough to justify the price tag.......all this could have been taken care of as a 25 dollar download.......not a freakin full priced game........still fail

you do know that the campaign is longer than games like heavenly sword and stuff (actually, the campaign is about the length of a normal shooter), it has a new mp mode with it with 10 maps just for it, and it has all halo 3 mp with 40 dollars worth of maps on it. sounds worth it to me, especially if you dont have any of the maps.

look what microshaft has done.........brainwashing......you need to ask better of your game developers........slap halo on it.........and watch the cattle come in.....and i think the nick names need to be changed

What the hell dude? We like Halo! I seriously doubt there are subliminal messages flashing all over the screen while we play. For Halo fans, its definately worth the $60, why are you complaining about something you don't have to buy?
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#69 BioShockOwnz
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Can't have a single Halo thread without the hate spam each time, eh? Too bad. ODST will be fantastic. End of story.

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#70 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

its not enough to justify the price tag.......all this could have been taken care of as a 25 dollar download.......not a freakin full priced game........still fail

Syn_Valence

you do know that the campaign is longer than games like heavenly sword and stuff (actually, the campaign is about the length of a normal shooter), it has a new mp mode with it with 10 maps just for it, and it has all halo 3 mp with 40 dollars worth of maps on it. sounds worth it to me, especially if you dont have any of the maps.

look what microshaft has done.........brainwashing......you need to ask better of your game developers........slap halo on it.........and watch the cattle come in.....and i think the nick names need to be changed

Yes ignore any points he has and call it brainwashing.:roll:

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#71 G-O-M-J
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

SpiritOfFire117

well i disagree with you, i dont play halo for the story nor do i know anyone that does, its just a simple fun shooter thats easy to pick up and play nobody plays halo to "connect" with it lol..

I and many of my friends do. Just laying it out on the table.

you and your friends should play more games.

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#72 EmperorZeruel
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i wish there was flood in the game i prefer to fight flood rather then covernet since flood are way easer to kill their also alot more fun to fight i feal like iam fighting zombies

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#73 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]well i disagree with you, i dont play halo for the story nor do i know anyone that does, its just a simple fun shooter thats easy to pick up and play nobody plays halo to "connect" with it lol..G-O-M-J

I and many of my friends do. Just laying it out on the table.

you and your friends should play more games.

We do but thanks for your conscern by the way.:P

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#74 G-O-M-J
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]I and many of my friends do. Just laying it out on the table.SpiritOfFire117

you and your friends should play more games.

We do but thanks for your conscern by the way.:P

hey no prob lol
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#76 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

He played halo 3 multiple times and enjoyed it

his opinion = null. Terrible campaign. The first level was great. And then it just plummets after that first level. My hatred of the campaign is more than halo 2 tbh.

jg4xchamp


1- Personal opinion on a game doesn't make the reviews or another persons opinion horrible. For instance I think MGS 4 has a HORRIBLE ending, Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 have mediocre campaigns, Gears of War 1/2 had mediocre multiplayer, Fable 2 is just underwhelming, and well the list could go on all day.

2- Halo 3s campaign was inconsistant but it was probably still better than Halo 2. The franchise peaked at the 7th mission with the double scarabs, and nose dived for the final 2 missions which was flood only.

All those campaigns also suck except MGS4. MGS4 was amazing though. It was a blast to play. But fable 2 was horrible, gears of war had fantastic campaign significantly better than halos. So did cod4 I thought (I dunno why it gets alot of hate for its campaign I thought it was really good). Halo 3 was a bad game. I played it once, and beat it but that is it. Scarab is a big robot spider. And the first time you fight it was by far the climax. Also the best level design was the first level. Most other levels weren't as good. Plain and simple.

And one more thing. killzone 2 had a terrible single player. Terrible. It was almost unbeatable due to the difficulty. The multiplayer however was so good. Some of the best level design, enviroment designs, I've ever seen. I think it may have the best level design in terms of multiplayer maps ever.

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#77 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

He played halo 3 multiple times and enjoyed it

his opinion = null. Terrible campaign. The first level was great. And then it just plummets after that first level. My hatred of the campaign is more than halo 2 tbh.

Then I think your opinion should be nulled. because Halo 2 was bad played it once never played it again. I only played Halo 1 and Halo 3 multiple times.
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#78 EddyPee
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Having watched the single-player campaign on youtube, it seems to me that we're essentially getting multiplayer DLC except it's on a disc and has a very short campaign tacked on in an attempt to justify a high price tag. The youtube videos were only four hours in total, including cutscenes/credits and all the pointless backtracking the player did. There weren't really any 'wow' moments.

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#79 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]I care so little I almost passed out.G-O-M-J
you care enough to come into the thread and post

yet you clicked the threaddoobie1975
Please don't tell me you've come here to reiterate something I've already done. I already know the things I've done. In fact...I'm the one who did them.

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#80 MortalDecay
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Let the haters hate. That's what they do. I guess the fanboys haven't realized that they are the only ones saying negatives things about ODST, and they haven't played it. :lol: ODST is going to be a great game.
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#81 aero250
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Can't wait for my halo fix.
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#82 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

He played halo 3 multiple times and enjoyed it

his opinion = null. Terrible campaign. The first level was great. And then it just plummets after that first level. My hatred of the campaign is more than halo 2 tbh.

too_much_eslim

Then I think your opinion should be nulled. because Halo 2 was bad played it once never played it again. I only played Halo 1 and Halo 3 multiple times.

halo 2 gets bad at the end. 1st part wasn't so bad. But it had some way cooler scenes like the elevator scene at the beginning, and the huge lift towards this arbiter head quarter in the middle. Two awesome scenes.

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#83 Cicatraz_ESP
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I completely disagree with his review of halo 3 campaign. I thought it was really bad. I loved halo 1, thought halo 2 was okay, thought halo 3 was horrible.

nhh18

i'll never understand why people say they halo 3 was horrible and previous halos were good, they are all pretty much exactly the same, people didnt call it halo 2.5 for no reason...

Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

Ummmm... there wasnt a giant spider fight in Halo 3 :/ You must be talking about the scarabs?

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#84 nhh18
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Let the haters hate. That's what they do. I guess the fanboys haven't realized that they are the only ones saying negatives things about ODST, and they haven't played it. :lol: ODST is going to be a great game.MortalDecay
It is going to be a good game. Then hype it AAA. :(. It is bothering me that let the haters hate the game. But the people hyping the game have no soul to hype it AAA :(.

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#85 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]i'll never understand why people say they halo 3 was horrible and previous halos were good, they are all pretty much exactly the same, people didnt call it halo 2.5 for no reason...Cicatraz_ESP

Nothing remotely memorable in halo 3 besides the giant spider fight. The story really was poorly represented. The game just dragged on and on without any feeling of connection watsoever. It was so bad. I mean the 2nd level was basically complete backtracking and there was never any tension in the game.

Ummmm... there wasnt a giant spider fight in Halo 3 :/ You must be talking about the scarabs?

giant robot spider fight which were the scarabs.

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#86 GulliversTravel
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As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid:roll:
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#87 nhh18
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As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid:roll:GulliversTravel
then hype the game AAA. My god.

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#88 Syferonik
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No thanks gonna wait for GS review which won't be over 8.5 (probably 8) so if i am getting ODST is only as a rent for Reach's beta.
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#89 nhh18
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No thanks gonna wait for GS review which won't be over 8.5 (probably 8) so if i am getting ODST is only as a rent for Reach's beta.Syferonik
Then people need to stop paradnig about how haters are attacking this game. They are basically saying this is going to be the weakest iteration in the halo series by basically a full point. And then attack anyone who doesn't agree with them saying it is better than halo 1, 2, and 3 (especially 2, and 3) and that it is the most consistent shooter. I really didn't like halo 3. So it will probably be better, and if it is. I'm for sure going to hype it AAA.

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#90 svetzenlether
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WHat if he didn't like it would you still consider it honest?too_much_eslim

I think we know the answer to that. At that point, it would be "biased" and not "honest"

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#91 TheArmyGuy48
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it still looks like its trying way to hard to be metroid prime to me.

Not that thats a bad thing, as metroid prime 1 is one of the best games ever made8)

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#93 Syferonik
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]No thanks gonna wait for GS review which won't be over 8.5 (probably 8) so if i am getting ODST is only as a rent for Reach's beta.nhh18

Then people need to stop paradnig about how haters are attacking this game. They are basically saying this is going to be the weakest iteration in the halo series by basically a full point. And then attack anyone who doesn't agree with them saying it is better than halo 1, 2, and 3 (especially 2, and 3) and that it is the most consistent shooter.

I am not a Halo hater but this one looks like a big joke compared to other Halo's. The only good part about ODST i can find is that you can't dual wield anymore lol that about it. Huge games like Halo which got over 2years to upgrade its engine and they didnt=no respect. If next Halo takes the same path well its gonna be wut Activision is doing with its MW2 (same crap overpriced and evrybody is happy)

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#94 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid:roll:nhh18

then hype the game AAA. My god.

Im hyping AA, whats your point:?
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#95 SpiritOfFire117
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As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid:roll:GulliversTravel
No they'd rather make assumptions by watching some guy on youtube rushing it on easy(I'm not watching because I want to experience it the way the game intended). To them THAT is more valid.
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#96 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid:roll:GulliversTravel

then hype the game AAA. My god.

Im hyping AA, whats your point:?

Why? You are basically saying this is significantly weakest entry by a full point. And then complain about people bashing it when you guys are basically doing the same. You can't have both each way. If you believe it is the best halo game like this guy at neogaf said. Then hype it AAA. if not, and you think it is the weakest. Hype it AA.

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#97 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

No thanks gonna wait for GS review which won't be over 8.5 (probably 8) so if i am getting ODST is only as a rent for Reach's beta.Syferonik
Then people need to stop paradnig about how haters are attacking this game. They are basically saying this is going to be the weakest iteration in the halo series by basically a full point. And then attack anyone who doesn't agree with them saying it is better than halo 1, 2, and 3 (especially 2, and 3) and that it is the most consistent shooter.

I am not a Halo hater but this one looks like a big joke compared to other Halo's. The only good part about ODST i can find is that you can't dual wield anymore lol that about it. Huge games like Halo which got over 2years to upgrade its engine and they didnt=no respect. If next Halo takes the same path well its gonna be wut Activision is doing with its MW2 (same crap overpriced and evrybody is happy)

Er...They didn't have two years to make it.
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#98 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="nhh18"]then hype the game AAA. My god.

nhh18

Im hyping AA, whats your point:?

Why? You are basically saying this is significantly weakest entry by a full point. And then complain about people bashing it when you guys are basically doing the same. You can't have both each way. If you believe it is the best halo game like this guy at neogaf said. Then hype it AAA. if not, and you think it is the weakest. Hype it AA.

Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:
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#99 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Im hyping AA, whats your point:?GulliversTravel

Why? You are basically saying this is significantly weakest entry by a full point. And then complain about people bashing it when you guys are basically doing the same. You can't have both each way. If you believe it is the best halo game like this guy at neogaf said. Then hype it AAA. if not, and you think it is the weakest. Hype it AA.

Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:

It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

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#100 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Why? You are basically saying this is significantly weakest entry by a full point. And then complain about people bashing it when you guys are basically doing the same. You can't have both each way. If you believe it is the best halo game like this guy at neogaf said. Then hype it AAA. if not, and you think it is the weakest. Hype it AA.

nhh18

Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:

It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

Like i said, youre really BSing yourself because i NEVER claimed that its the best SP:?