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#101 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:GulliversTravel

It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

Like i said, youre really BSing yourself because i NEVER claimed that its the best SP:?

Read what the guy from neogaf said. What this topic is about.

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#102 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]No thanks gonna wait for GS review which won't be over 8.5 (probably 8) so if i am getting ODST is only as a rent for Reach's beta.Syferonik

Then people need to stop paradnig about how haters are attacking this game. They are basically saying this is going to be the weakest iteration in the halo series by basically a full point. And then attack anyone who doesn't agree with them saying it is better than halo 1, 2, and 3 (especially 2, and 3) and that it is the most consistent shooter.

I am not a Halo hater but this one looks like a big joke compared to other Halo's. The only good part about ODST i can find is that you can't dual wield anymore lol that about it. Huge games like Halo which got over 2years to upgrade its engine and they didnt=no respect. If next Halo takes the same path well its gonna be wut Activision is doing with its MW2 (same crap overpriced and evrybody is happy)

And what if the game turns out to be high quality, will you still be complaining about how its the same engine? Be glad that youre even getting another Halo from Bungie only tell get yet another big product next year. And unlike MW2, Bungie arent recyling EVERYTHING, they even have a brand new art st*le.
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#103 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="nhh18"]It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

nhh18

Like i said, youre really BSing yourself because i NEVER claimed that its the best SP:?

Read what the guy from neogaf said. What this topic is about.

Or how about you read my OP:?
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#104 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Why? You are basically saying this is significantly weakest entry by a full point. And then complain about people bashing it when you guys are basically doing the same. You can't have both each way. If you believe it is the best halo game like this guy at neogaf said. Then hype it AAA. if not, and you think it is the weakest. Hype it AA.

nhh18

Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:

It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

If it inlcudes a new multiplayer mode and maps then it isn't based on single player merits alone now is it?;)

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#105 VideoGameGuy
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WHat if he didn't like it would you still consider it honest?too_much_eslim
Post of the Year right here.
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#106 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Like i said, youre really BSing yourself because i NEVER claimed that its the best SP:?GulliversTravel

Read what the guy from neogaf said. What this topic is about.

Or how about you read my OP:?

As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid

--------------------I read it. It says the same thing. Please tell me what I'm missing.
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#107 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Oh wow full of contradictions are we, im guessing youre going to use anything to somehow bash Halo? Please try harder:| Im hyping it AA because at the end of the day, its SP game with a few extras thrown in. If the campaign clocks in at 4 hours on Easy, then its way more on Hard and most importantly on Legendary. Halo 3 didnt break any new ground but Bungie did a great job with it, ive played through the SP many times on different difficulties, and because the game is still so unique in what it does, it never gets old. One of the things Bungie really hit the nail on were the difficulty by making sure that they scaled well as well as the checkpoint system which was dynamic. But offcoures, because im hyping AA, it must mean 'teh suck.' Regardless Bungie have a proven record and haters like you will cry the day the review drops, so please continue to put words in my mouth, while youre at it, how about you go an claim i said its the greatest thing ever:roll:SpiritOfFire117

It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

If it inlcudes a new multiplayer mode and maps then it isn't based on single player merits alone now is it?;)

Yeah. It includes that but still not hyped AAA because of the haters.

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#108 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Read what the guy from neogaf said. What this topic is about.

nhh18

Or how about you read my OP:?

As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid

--------------------I read it. It says the same thing. Please tell me what I'm missing.

So where did i say this is the best Halo SP:?

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#109 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]WHat if he didn't like it would you still consider it honest?VideoGameGuy
Post of the Year right here.

Well you can tell the guy actually PLAYED it so I guess that counts as "honest". The rest is just opinion.
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#110 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Or how about you read my OP:?GulliversTravel

As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid

--------------------I read it. It says the same thing. Please tell me what I'm missing.

So where did i say this is the best Halo SP:?

okay I'm done. His opinion is valid because he sadi it was the best halo game. You still won't hype it because you don't believe it but it is better than the negative reviews which had a dissenting opinion on it.

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#111 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]It means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. Like I said, it means you think it is going to be the weakest iteration. That the single player is only worth AA. There have been tons of games that only had a singleplayer mode and scored AAA. If you think that this is the strongest single player halo game, which halo ce would definitely score a 9 or higher for single player. Than I don't understnad how you can't think it is AAA. I'm done. This arguement doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to be able to influence anyone by the fact that they believe that a halo game based on single player merits alone is an AA title. Even if it includes firefight and multiplayer maps.

If it inlcudes a new multiplayer mode and maps then it isn't based on single player merits alone now is it?;)

Yeah. It includes that but still not hyped AAA because of the haters.

But I thought you said it was being hyped by single player alone?
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#112 djsifer01
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And what exactly makes this review honest? because they thought it was good? It dosent change the fact it wont score higher than 8.5
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Just because the reviewer says good things about that crappy game doesn't make it honest, it makes it lies!

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#114 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"] If it inlcudes a new multiplayer mode and maps then it isn't based on single player merits alone now is it?;)

SpiritOfFire117

Yeah. It includes that but still not hyped AAA because of the haters.

But I thought you said it was being hyped by single player alone?

It is hyped for single player alone here. Because he said it was the best halo campaign. It also has multiplayer, and firefight. But here it is only a discussion on the single player mode. Nevermidn

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#115 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]As usual the haters are out, despite the guy giving backing to his opinions, its not enough, and yet reviews where people havent even played the game are just as valid

--------------------I read it. It says the same thing. Please tell me what I'm missing.nhh18

So where did i say this is the best Halo SP:?

okay I'm done. His opinion is valid because he sadi it was the best halo game. You still won't hype it because you don't believe it but it is better than the negative reviews which had a dissenting opinion on it.

Right i said that too, what next, are you going to imagine i said unicorns exist:roll: I was talking about there were negative reviews that had NO base whatsoever, where they simply complained about the graphics or better yet they hadnt even PLAYED the game.

Review after playing game > No review > Review after NOT having played the game.

Does that make sense, if not, please pass me what youre smoking, nothing can be that good.

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#116 GulliversTravel
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Just because the reviewer says good things about that crappy game doesn't make it honest, it makes it lies!

jakehouston88
So in that case why are you believing that bad reviews, you know especially when some of these people hadnt even PLAYED the game. But im guessing somebody on a random blog who also claims Sony are selling of the Playstation brand are reliable:roll:
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#117 SpiritOfFire117
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Just because the reviewer says good things about that crappy game doesn't make it honest, it makes it lies!

jakehouston88
But some rant by some guy that obviously didn't play it is "truth" right?
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#118 SpiritOfFire117
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And what exactly makes this review honest? because they thought it was good? It dosent change the fact it wont score higher than 8.5djsifer01
Fact? You haven't even played the game. Hell you didn't even play Halo 3 from what I recall in another thread.
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#119 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]So where did i say this is the best Halo SP:?

GulliversTravel

okay I'm done. His opinion is valid because he sadi it was the best halo game. You still won't hype it because you don't believe it but it is better than the negative reviews which had a dissenting opinion on it.

Right i said that too, what next, are you going to imagine i said unicorns exist:roll: I was talking about there were negative reviews that had NO base whatsoever, where they simply complained about the graphics or better yet they hadnt even PLAYED the game.

Review after playing game > No review > Review after NOT having played the game.

Does that make sense, if not, please pass me what youre smoking, nothing can be that good.

Huh?

http://www.wiispace.com/?p=vB24506

This review is bad because it is inaccurate? It seemed like this guy played the same game.

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#120 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]okay I'm done. His opinion is valid because he sadi it was the best halo game. You still won't hype it because you don't believe it but it is better than the negative reviews which had a dissenting opinion on it.

nhh18

Right i said that too, what next, are you going to imagine i said unicorns exist:roll: I was talking about there were negative reviews that had NO base whatsoever, where they simply complained about the graphics or better yet they hadnt even PLAYED the game.

Review after playing game > No review > Review after NOT having played the game.

Does that make sense, if not, please pass me what youre smoking, nothing can be that good.

Huh?

http://www.wiispace.com/?p=vB24506

This review is bad because it is inaccurate? It seemed like this guy played the same game.

So in that case whats stopping you from believing in the 'good' review.:| I really cant imagine what people like you will do to yourself when this game scores well. But ill take a review that gives a clear impression of the game rather than one that complains about random things like how its 'too dark'
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#121 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]okay I'm done. His opinion is valid because he sadi it was the best halo game. You still won't hype it because you don't believe it but it is better than the negative reviews which had a dissenting opinion on it.

Right i said that too, what next, are you going to imagine i said unicorns exist:roll: I was talking about there were negative reviews that had NO base whatsoever, where they simply complained about the graphics or better yet they hadnt even PLAYED the game.

Review after playing game > No review > Review after NOT having played the game.

Does that make sense, if not, please pass me what youre smoking, nothing can be that good.

Huh?

http://www.wiispace.com/?p=vB24506

This review is bad because it is inaccurate? It seemed like this guy played the same game.

Sounds like the guy just sucks. Also there's no extreme hype. It's just getting the regular hype any game gets.
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#122 rolo107
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WHat if he didn't like it would you still consider it honest?too_much_eslim
Isn't that a silly question? Of course there can be honest good and honest bad reviews. It's all in how the person portrays their feelings, whether it's fanboyish, or simply good reviewing and writing. Most of the time on most sites, it's the score that's a little weird, but the review content is good.
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http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=17625519&postcount=2902

"The last thing I want to say is that the atmosphere in this game is just amazing. Absolutely the moodiest Halo game. Comparatively, I believe "343 Guilty Spark" was the most atmospheric level in the trilogy. This game easily takes the cake in that department. The music, the visor, the emptiness of New Mombasa are really what set this game apart from the rest of the franchise. When you're playing those sections as the rookie, that is when you'll recognize something new about this game. Otherwise, its strictly Halo. The best of Halo...but still distinctly Halo."

Looking pretty good. Only 4 more days!

h575309

this is not an honest review. I am glad he likes it.but an honest reviews will mention both good points and bad points. even if it is a simple thing like "the campaign is too short" or something. I did not see he mention any bad point.

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#124 angelkimne
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Huh?

http://www.wiispace.com/?p=vB24506

This review is bad because it is inaccurate? It seemed like this guy played the same game.

nhh18

It's fake.

1. The review embargo doesn't lift until tomorrow, and the site doesn't look like the sort of place that gets review copies of games in early, anyway

2. You'll notice the last game the site reviewed was in July, and it was for 'The Pitt' DLC for Fallout 3. Odd, 'ay? ;)

3. Simple inconsistencies in the review like;

"I also like the fact that Bungie separated us from Master Chief. It certainly makes the whole game different, but in a good way. It adds to a new feel, being that you can't jump as high, you do have a health bar, and that you're not as strong as John 117."

"Besides being way too short, they did nothing to change the gameplay. It feels the exact same way that Halo 3 did."

4. As if I needed any more proof, here's the reviewers gamertag (go on 'My Friend Codes') Now, go check that gamertag here.

Guess what? He hasn't even played it :o

The end.

PS: Sorry for bump, just wanted to clear that up, it's been annoying me. >.>

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#125 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=17625519&postcount=2902

"The last thing I want to say is that the atmosphere in this game is just amazing. Absolutely the moodiest Halo game. Comparatively, I believe "343 Guilty Spark" was the most atmospheric level in the trilogy. This game easily takes the cake in that department. The music, the visor, the emptiness of New Mombasa are really what set this game apart from the rest of the franchise. When you're playing those sections as the rookie, that is when you'll recognize something new about this game. Otherwise, its strictly Halo. The best of Halo...but still distinctly Halo."

Looking pretty good. Only 4 more days!

hasrulz

this is not an honest review. I am glad he likes it.but an honest reviews will mention both good points and bad points. even if it is a simple thing like "the campaign is too short" or something. I did not see he mention any bad point.

No. You just described a review that would be objective. The title of the this thread is a for a review that's honest.