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#1 Timstuff
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-01-15-will-digital-keep-nintendo-in-hardware

So can we please stop pretending that 2.2 million shipped is the same thing as sold, particularly when the system just launched and retailers already find themselves with an over-abundance of stock leftover from Christmas?

My prediction: Nintendo will eliminate the basic model of the Wii U, and lower the deluxe model's price to $270 to be more competitive with the Xbox 360 and PS3. Anyone who wants a Wii U wants the deluxe model, so at this point the basic one is just a waste of shelf space. I predict Nintendo will put the basic model on clearance for $250 and package it with a free copy of Nintendoland. It's also possible that in the near future, they will release an "XL" model that comes with a built-in HDD, since 32GB of internal storage is riduculous for a system that claims to be pushing digital distribution.

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#2 Animal-Mother
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I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

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#3 Bigboi500
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

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#4 Timstuff
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

I think that the next gen is going to be very disappointing. It's getting too expensive to pack cutting-edge tech into a console that sells for under $400, and the industry is moving more towards a model designed to protect profits rather than push for higher quality end-user experiences and better deals for customers.

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#5 ShadowDeathX
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500
Agreed.
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#6 Ilovegames1992
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NEXT GEN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500
I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.
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I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

Animal-Mother
8 gigs ram ? Did you mean 8gb system storage?
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#10 Timstuff
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NEXT GEN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Ilovegames1992

This Mega64 sketch pretty much sums up what is happening:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlL09nriFfk

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#11 freedomfreak
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I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

Animal-Mother
storage :P But yeah, I don't get that either.
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#12 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Timstuff

I think that the next gen is going to be very disappointing. It's getting too expensive to pack cutting-edge tech into a console that sells for under $400, and the industry is moving more towards a model designed to protect profits rather than push for higher quality end-user experiences and better deals for customers.

Pretty much. The people that want that high-end experience will have to go to PC. In order for consoles to stay profitable they'll have to stay low-end or not sell well. It just makes sense to cater to the majority.

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#13 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

clyde46

I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.

I don't see Sony or MS making a great leap either, not without pricing themselves right out of business. That "something new" will be nothing more than over-hyped media features and extentsions on current gimmicks. Things that don't relate to gaming like some sort of pseudo cable services.

Forgive me if I don't have a lot of faith in what they'll be offering.

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Nintendo is doomed!
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#15 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

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fail

:lol: I didn't realize I typed ram. :lol:
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LOL once again, Nintendo just making suckers of out the early Nintendolts
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#17 runbleduck
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The Wii-U is pretty much dead already. Of the very few 3rd parties that showed support for the Wii-U, most of them already abandoned it by now. Nintendo was so arrogant that they thought Wii's success insures that Wii-U will succeed no matter how terrible and overpriced it is, even after the disastrous E3 '11 and '12 reactions to it. The word-of-mouth for the system is just absolutely toxic that there is just no way Nintendo can recover from this train-wreck.
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if any drop happens, it'll probably just be a $50 drop.

$250 for a 8gb and $300 for a 32gb.

Then again, Sales will pick up when some sort of Third Party support comes in and Nintendo's 1st party emerges from Development zone.

In other words WAIT TILL E3.

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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

clyde46
I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.

1st time I agree with this freakshow
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

RR360DD

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

It shows howmuch people are willing to spend. Nice Master Chief avatar
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#22 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

illmatic8582

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

It shows howmuch people are willing to spend. Nice Master Chief avatar

IT SHOWS that the Wii U just has no appeal. I honestly don't know who Nintendo were aiming this at (other than the usual mindless sheep)

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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

I would say the Wii U has little to do with how the next PS and Xbox will do , most anaylist agree. The Wii U is on par with the PS3 and 360 tech wise so outside of a tablet controller and Nintendo exclusives what does it offer thats special? Its graphics are no better then consoles that have been out the past 6 years and its best 3rd party games are avaible on consoles that cost less and run them just as well. The next PS and Xbox will be doing something far beyond the Wii U and if they have games to show it they will do as well if not better then they did the last generation. Im not sure how you can say people are spending money like they use to when they buy overpriced I pads at $500.00 are more knowing its going to be completely worthless in 2 to 3 years , yet we cant spend $500 to $600 on a console that will last me 5 to 10 years?

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#24 Animal-Mother
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The Wii-U is pretty much dead already. Of the very few 3rd parties that showed support for the Wii-U, most of them already abandoned it by now. Nintendo was so arrogant that they thought Wii's success insures that Wii-U will succeed no matter how terrible and overpriced it is, even after the disastrous E3 '11 and '12 reactions to it. The word-of-mouth for the system is just absolutely toxic that there is just no way Nintendo can recover from this train-wreck. runbleduck
In all things fair I understand there isn't much third party support now. But if in a year after release it's the same way one can say this. It was the same exact way for the 3DS when it launched.
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#25 PatchMaster
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People buy a console for its games. Until there are great games the console can't be expected to sell. So unless Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, etc. come out and do absolutely nothing to stimulate sales, there won't be a price drop. I don't know why people think Wii U is doomed. Use your brains. Who, regardless of which platform we're talking about, buys a console three or four months after release? No one. You either buy the thing at launch because you cave under the hype or you wait until the console has amassed a small collection of great games (6 months - 2 years after launch). And since Wii U didn't garner a lot of pre-launch hype, guess which group they're catering to now?

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

RR360DD

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

Claiming to know what any system's fanbase is made of is beyond delusional. Stop playing the "my system's fanbase is better than your system's fanbase" because that's just idiocy. Insulting an entire fanbase shows immaturity on your part, and your blind hatred of a gaming company proves that you have behavior and social problems.

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#27 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

AM-Gamer

I would say the Wii U has little to do with how the next PS and Xbox will do , most anaylist agree. The Wii U is on par with the PS3 and 360 tech wise so outside of a tablet controller and Nintendo exclusives what does it offer thats special? Its graphics are no better then consoles that have been out the past 6 years and its best 3rd party games are avaible on consoles that cost less and run them just as well. The next PS and Xbox will be doing something far beyond the Wii U and if they have games to show it they will do as well if not better then they did the last generation. Im not sure how you can say people are spending money like they use to when they buy overpriced I pads at $500.00 are more knowing its going to be completely worthless in 2 to 3 years , yet we cant spend $500 to $600 on a console that will last me 5 to 10 years?

This false argument gets thrown around every generation, the ole "console folks care 'bout dem graphics and technology blah blah blah" and then gen after gen the most powerful consoles fall to bottom of the barrel. It's also weaksauce to use the ipad and iphone argument and not mentioning the data plans that allow people to get them for peanuts while subscribing to multi-year contracts.

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If the nextbox/ps4 have, forgive the tired expression, 'killer aps' they'll be fine. Ninty launching with none of these is their biggest liability at the moment. Launching with only a 2d mario game, and average to below average ports isn't going to cut it.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

clyde46
I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.

Sony is rumored to also have a tablet controller and MS apparently will emphasize Kinect 2. Plus higher prices for both these. The Wii U's just been out for 2 months, of course we haven't seen a major leap. We won't at first with the PS4/720 either.
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#30 PatchMaster
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You guys do realize that the majority of people here that are interested in Wii U haven't bought one yet, right? Like I said in my last post, if you don't buy a console at launch because of the hype you typically wait until there are a handful of great games before investing. The Wii U is clearly a console that will sell over time as it gets more games.

Also, take into consideration that the first casual adopters of a platform tend to do so because they observe or speak with a core gamer who owns the console. Therefore, one could make the argument that until the core audience purchases their consoles the casual market won't have the potential to go viral.

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If the nextbox/ps4 have, forgive the tired expression, 'killer aps' they'll be fine. Ninty launching with none of these is their biggest liability at the moment. Launching with only a 2d mario game, and average to below average ports isn't going to cut it.FastEddie2121
Also this. The Wii U's launch lineup only consisted of another 2D Mario, a minigame collection, month/year old games ported, dissapointing third party offerings, and a few games that shouldn't even be in the $39.99-$59.99 range.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

Claiming to know what any system's fanbase is made of is beyond delusional. Stop playing the "my system's fanbase is better than your system's fanbase" because that's just idiocy. Insulting an entire fanbase shows immaturity on your part, and your blind hatred of a gaming company proves that you have behavior and social problems.

Wii software sold like complete crap (other than nintendo titles funnily enough / casual dance games). It had practially no 3rd party support other than shltty dance and carnival games. Thats proof right there of the systems fanbase. I know it. Developers know it (why do you think so many 3rd party developers are ignoring the Wii U?). Everyone knows it but you Nintendolts.

I'm not saying the 360 or PS3 fanbase is better, im saying their fanbases are made up of actual gamers who actually buy and play games. Why do you think the 360s attach rate is so high. They'll be uprading to the next xbox / playstation. These Wii U sales are no indication of anything Xbox or playstation related.

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#33 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

TheDidact
I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.

Sony is rumored to also have a tablet controller and MS apparently will emphasize Kinect 2. Plus higher prices for both these. The Wii U's just been out for 2 months, of course we haven't seen a major leap. We won't at first with the PS4/720 either.

There will most definitely be a leap. Not huge, not like Xbox to Xbox 360. But to compare it to the Wii U leap (if you can even call it that) is hilarious :lol:
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#34 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

TheDidact

I think many people are holding out hope that MS and Sony will actually bring something new to the table with their next gen machines. The Wii U in many people's eyes is just another Wii and not a great leap.

Sony is rumored to also have a tablet controller and MS apparently will emphasize Kinect 2. Plus higher prices for both these. The Wii U's just been out for 2 months, of course we haven't seen a major leap. We won't at first with the PS4/720 either.

Just look at the first AC game compared to AC3, at the start of a generation the devs don't really know what they're doing, and later on they can vastly improve things. The fact that Wii U runs the end-of-generation mutliplats that look the same or better, just think what the Wii U is capable of down the road.

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#35 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

RR360DD

Claiming to know what any system's fanbase is made of is beyond delusional. Stop playing the "my system's fanbase is better than your system's fanbase" because that's just idiocy. Insulting an entire fanbase shows immaturity on your part, and your blind hatred of a gaming company proves that you have behavior and social problems.

Wii software sold like complete crap (other than nintendo titles funnily enough / casual dance games). It had practially no 3rd party support other than shltty dance and carnival games. Thats proof right there of the systems fanbase. I know it. Developers know it (why do you think so many 3rd party developers are ignoring the Wii U?). Everyone knows it but you Nintendolts.

I'm not saying the 360 or PS3 fanbase is better, im saying their fanbases are made up of actual gamers who actually buy and play games. Why do you think the 360s attach rate is so high. They'll be uprading to the next xbox / playstation. These Wii U sales are no indication of anything Xbox or playstation related.

Your formulas for "proving" things is flawed due to your personal bias. "no third part support other than shltty dance and carnival games" shows just how ignorant you are on the entire subject of gaming.

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#36 redikan
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Nah, I don't think because theres 140 million+ consoles sold between the two that there will be 140 million people excited about buying the new consoles. At best you have your Day one/ year one gamers excited about the next round. Nintendo straight up gimped there own launch and lets hope they have a quick game plan to turn it around.
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#37 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"] Claiming to know what any system's fanbase is made of is beyond delusional. Stop playing the "my system's fanbase is better than your system's fanbase" because that's just idiocy. Insulting an entire fanbase shows immaturity on your part, and your blind hatred of a gaming company proves that you have behavior and social problems.

Bigboi500

Wii software sold like complete crap (other than nintendo titles funnily enough / casual dance games). It had practially no 3rd party support other than shltty dance and carnival games. Thats proof right there of the systems fanbase. I know it. Developers know it (why do you think so many 3rd party developers are ignoring the Wii U?). Everyone knows it but you Nintendolts.

I'm not saying the 360 or PS3 fanbase is better, im saying their fanbases are made up of actual gamers who actually buy and play games. Why do you think the 360s attach rate is so high. They'll be uprading to the next xbox / playstation. These Wii U sales are no indication of anything Xbox or playstation related.

Your formulas for "proving" things is flawed due to your personal bias. "no third part support other than shltty dance and carnival games" shows just how ignorant you are on the entire subject of gaming.

Go ahead. Tell me the Wii had great third party support.

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#38 Shadowchronicle
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

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A sign? Maybe for Nintendo. The problem is that Nintendo doesn't have anything different to offer than competition anymore. A tablet controller isn't exactly what people call innovative or new. The console has practically everything other consoles have except for the tablet and a miiverse.
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Ambassador round 2 here I come!
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

I think this is completely wrong, this is no reflection on the next gen consoles im sorry but the Wii U is just a Wii update, its graphics are just about on par with the ps3 and the 360 why would anyone want to buy a console what does the same thing, and the people who bought the Wii you know the non gamers the families dont care for graphics and third party games im sorry but Wii U has come to late anyone Nintendo who wanted the top game have already got a ps3 or 360 what's the need for an in between console which offers nothing new, that's the only reason the Wii succeeded because it was different.

seriously anyone give me one reason why I should buy a Wii u except for there first party games when any gamer by now who plays the top games has a ps3/360, what a waste of money when the next gen is just around the corner

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

RR360DD

I'm sorry, but Wii U sales have absolutely NO bearing on PS4 / 720 sales. This isn't a sign of anything to come, its just a Nintendo console failing.

There are 140 million gamers out there with a PS3 or 360 just waiting for the next one. The only people buying Wii Us are the nintendolts who cream thelselves over mario and zelda. The other 90 million Wii owners are grannys who've maybe bought 1 wii game during the consoles entire existance, and have no interest in the Wii U because the gimmick isn't enticing enough.

I think that most people who bought the Wii bought it because Nintendo tricked all the parents and grandparents into thinking that the Wii would make their kids exercise.
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I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

Animal-Mother
Both Sony and Microsoft have models which are exactly the same as this, the 360 has a 4GB version and the Super Slim PS3 has a 12GB version. So what's the big deal exactly?
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#43 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

bobbetybob

Both Sony and Microsoft have models which are exactly the same as this, the 360 has a 4GB version and the Super Slim PS3 has a 12GB version. So what's the big deal exactly?

Updates on the 360 don't use the HDD. And they actually offer sku's with 250gb or 320gb. Unlike nintendo who offer 32 is it? Pretty pathetic in 2012/3.

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I have a feeling it might be the only console that does well this gen. People want tablets and Angry Birds now. They don't want computers, they don't want phones, they don't want consoles, and they don't want handhelds. The mainstream market is almost a lost cause for game developers these days, unless the developer is making Call of Duty.
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#45 Zeviander
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Updates on the 360 don't use the HDD. And they actually offer sku's with 250gb or 320gb. Unlike nintendo who offer 32 is it? Pretty pathetic in 2012/3.RR360DD
The U lets the user attach any USB HDD device, including 2 TB ones. Microsoft lets us use 16GB flash memory and charges us $200 for a 320 GB HDD. Your point is moot. Nintendo didn't include more memory because it cut down on costs, and instead let the use pick how much space they wanted.
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#46 Shadowchronicle
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People want tablets and Angry Birds now. .Zeviander
And why would someone purchase this if they have a tablet?
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And why would someone purchase this if they have a tablet? shadowchronicle
Nintendo first party.
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#48 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

I think it was extremely stupid to do such a botched model.

I mean 8 gigs of ram that would easily be taken up by the first update.

Did anyone at nintendo see this happening?

bobbetybob
Both Sony and Microsoft have models which are exactly the same as this, the 360 has a 4GB version and the Super Slim PS3 has a 12GB version. So what's the big deal exactly?

Erm, they don't sell any of the 12 gig models here at any major retailers here. And 4 gig is enough for storage.
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If people aren't buying the Wii U now, it's not a good sign for other consoles down the road either, especially if they're upwards of $500. People can lie to themselves and say "if those products are worth the value, people will buy them" but only a select few will. So before you fanboys jump for joy that people aren't spending money like they used to, get ready for a taste of your own bitter medicine.

Bigboi500

That's some flawed logic.

Just because the Wii U isn't successful doesn't mean the other consoles can't be. It depends entirely on the value they provide to the consumer.

That logic is like saying that because the Dreamcast was selling poorly at $200 that meant when the PS2 launched at $300 it'd sell poorly too, and of course when the PS2 was selling like hotcakes that should have meant the cheaper Gamecube was going to sell even better.

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#50 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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The people that bought the Wii are now using their iPads and iPhones... The Wii U isn't selling because the casual don't really care enough to spend £250-300 and most gamer's who are aware of what the Wii U is just aren't interested in the current lineup. 720 and PS4 will come in at $100 more than the Wii U and sell out mainly because the people that bought the 360 and PS3 are still interested in gaming. Nintendo had a good run with the casuals but both the 3DS and the Wii U have proven in sales that their 15 minutes of fame are well gone, now welcome back to the GameCube era. As for Bigboi500 while his post may hold some rational thinking his posts have been fulled by nothing but bitterness over the outcome of the Wii U, he has been hyping that c***box since it was announce and has based his negative opinions around the demise of gaming based of off two flawed products in the eyes of gamers who are the only target audience left right now, something that Nintendo thinks they are aware off but the launch games, storage size and lack of graphical promise have clear indications that most of that talk was nothing but marketing hype. A dozen or so studios are currently producing engines along with games for NEXT GEN console with no mention of a Wii U version... If that doesn't clear things up for people along with the abundance of casuals in the market then I don't know what will. Either way Nintendo NEED to step their game up this year or they WILL be left in the dust once the 720 and PS4 show their cards.