Analyst: Wii U needs to be $350 to break even, Mario needs to go multiplat etc

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#101 AM-Gamer
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I would love to see Nintendo games on another platform the problem is im concerned it would be on the wrong platforms. I have 0 intrest seeing them on apple or android mobile devices as that would be nothing more then cheap cash grabs. I would however love to see them on the next Playstation or Xbox because Sony and MS will likely make more impressive hardware then Nintendo and there games could really thrive there.

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#102 quickposter
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Nintendo promise Mario and Zelda is only on their system and thats why it will sell. Nintendo would make their own smart phone before they make games for other systems.

Realistically Sony will go third party before Nintendo do. Quite a stubborn bunch Nintendo.

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#103 nintendoboy16  Online
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I would love to see Nintendo games on another platform the problem is im concerned it would be on the wrong platforms. I have 0 intrest seeing them on apple or android mobile devices as that would be nothing more then cheap cash grabs. I would however love to see them on the next Playstation or Xbox because Sony and MS will likely make more impressive hardware then Nintendo and there games could really thrive there.

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PlayStation/XBOX consoles won't be that much better for Nintendo's games. I can only imagine if Nintendo had to make ports of Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 for NextBox, PS4, and PC... Sonic Adventure 1 (GameCube, PC, PSN, XBLA) all over again. Expect them to be somewhat fun, but also expect major flaws such as glitchy graphics and flawed controls (these were flaws I personally found in the PC version, but I've read the GameCube, PSN, and XBLA versions didn't do that much better).

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#104 madsnakehhh
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I total agree.......nintendo consoles are horrible.AtariKidX

You agree with something they didn't say?

Hey you are back? how is Vita doing BTW?

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#105 sneslover
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Analysts.:roll:

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#106 madsnakehhh
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I would love to see Nintendo games on another platform the problem is im concerned it would be on the wrong platforms. I have 0 intrest seeing them on apple or android mobile devices as that would be nothing more then cheap cash grabs. I would however love to see them on the next Playstation or Xbox because Sony and MS will likely make more impressive hardware then Nintendo and there games could really thrive there.

AM-Gamer

According to some early rumors, both next gen SONY and MS consoles won't be that more powerful than they current consoles.

If you want impressive hardware, PC is the only way to go.

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#107 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

I would love to see Nintendo games on another platform the problem is im concerned it would be on the wrong platforms. I have 0 intrest seeing them on apple or android mobile devices as that would be nothing more then cheap cash grabs. I would however love to see them on the next Playstation or Xbox because Sony and MS will likely make more impressive hardware then Nintendo and there games could really thrive there.

madsnakehhh

According to some early rumors, both next gen SONY and MS consoles won't be that more powerful than they current consoles.

If you want impressive hardware, PC is the only way to go.

According to some early rumors.......??lolol
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#108 Micropixel
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Analyst analysts analyst...

Remember what those same guys said last gen about the launch of the Wii and how doomed Nintendo was?

What did we all learn?

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#109 eyebrows
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Lol, analyst.

ForzaGearsFace

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

OK I like the 360 too but seriously you are a f*cking idiot.

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#110 ForzaGearsFace
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[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Lol, analyst.

eyebrows

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

OK I like the 360 too but seriously you are a f*cking idiot.

Why cause I'm right and a nobody like u can make predictions and no one would notice?
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#111 eyebrows
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[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

ForzaGearsFace

OK I like the 360 too but seriously you are a f*cking idiot.

Why cause I'm right and a nobody like u can make predictions and no one would notice?

Why didn't you spell why as 'y' like you did with you as 'u'?

Get some consistency as*hole.

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#112 quickposter
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According to some early rumors.......??lololAtariKidX

There doesn't even need to be rumours. How powerful does a system aimed at casuals need to be? Casuals don't even know what graphics are. Its not going to go all out on power if M$ want to attract casuals as well. Its just common sense.

PC FTW!

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#113 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

I would love to see Nintendo games on another platform the problem is im concerned it would be on the wrong platforms. I have 0 intrest seeing them on apple or android mobile devices as that would be nothing more then cheap cash grabs. I would however love to see them on the next Playstation or Xbox because Sony and MS will likely make more impressive hardware then Nintendo and there games could really thrive there.

AtariKidX

According to some early rumors, both next gen SONY and MS consoles won't be that more powerful than they current consoles.

If you want impressive hardware, PC is the only way to go.

According to some early rumors.......??lolol

Care to share a more reliable info on the PS4? just don't share anything about their finances and how's Vita doing ok. ;)

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#114 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

According to some early rumors, both next gen SONY and MS consoles won't be that more powerful than they current consoles.

If you want impressive hardware, PC is the only way to go.

madsnakehhh

According to some early rumors.......??lolol

Care to share a more reliable info on the PS4? just don't share anything about their finances and how's Vita doing ok. ;)

PS4 and XBOX720 they will be able to play Crysis 1 & 2 on max settings 1080p and 60FPS like the today PC.
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#115 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] According to some early rumors.......??lololAtariKidX

Care to share a more reliable info on the PS4? just don't share anything about their finances and how's Vita doing ok. ;)

PS4 and XBOX720 they will be able to play Crysis 1 & 2 on max settings 1080p and 60FPS like the today PC.

Look who's back. How's the Vita doing?
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#116 layton2012
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] According to some early rumors.......??lololAtariKidX

Care to share a more reliable info on the PS4? just don't share anything about their finances and how's Vita doing ok. ;)

PS4 and XBOX720 they will be able to play Crysis 1 & 2 on max settings 1080p and 60FPS like the today PC.

Ahh! It's nice to have out resident super cow/ Nintendo hater back out of deep depression from the vitas underwhelming sales. Welcome back!
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#117 KBFloYd
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lol...so the superior version of mario will be on ps4.720 instead of wiiU...lolz no way.

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atarkid is back! lets get the popcorn ready.

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#118 haziqonfire
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Look who's back. How's the Vita doing?charizard1605

What's a Vita?

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#119 PsychoLemons
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Analyst is the magic word.

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#120 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Lol, analyst.

Bigboi500

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

So what? Just getting a paycheck and/or being published on media outlets doesn't mean anything more credible than a random forum poster's opinion. The media picks up on anything Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan say as well. I don't suppose you hold them with high regard do you?

Analyst from CLSA and Macquarie. Both are reputable financial institutions. These are not gaming journalists that spout nonsense without data.They spend hundreds of hours studying financial statements of a company and the market in general before they publish these kinds of "opinions".

I'm an analyst myself :?

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#121 coasterguy65
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This just in....Most analysts have no clue what they are talking about.

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#122 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

nitekids2004

So what? Just getting a paycheck and/or being published on media outlets doesn't mean anything more credible than a random forum poster's opinion. The media picks up on anything Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan say as well. I don't suppose you hold them with high regard do you?

Analyst from CLSA and Macquarie. Both are reputable financial institutions. These are not gaming journalists that spout nonsense without data.They spend hundreds of hours studying financial statements of a company and the market in general before they publish these kinds of "opinions".

I'm an analyst myself :?

Not dissing you specifically, but please explain what kind of basis in any economic concept or theory this (or any other 'Nintendo is doomed!') has.
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#123 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]So what? Just getting a paycheck and/or being published on media outlets doesn't mean anything more credible than a random forum poster's opinion. The media picks up on anything Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan say as well. I don't suppose you hold them with high regard do you?

charizard1605

Analyst from CLSA and Macquarie. Both are reputable financial institutions. These are not gaming journalists that spout nonsense without data.They spend hundreds of hours studying financial statements of a company and the market in general before they publish these kinds of "opinions".

I'm an analyst myself :?

Not dissing you specifically, but please explain what kind of basis in any economic concept or theory this (or any other 'Nintendo is doomed!') has.

Nowhere in the article did it say that Nintendo is doomed. Rather, they just pointed out that the gaming market Nintendo once held might be shrinking and for Nintendo to capture (or recapture) that market, they should also shift their strategy.

The $350 to break-even for the Wii U might not be as far fetched as people think it is. After all, the tablet controller is obviously going to cost alot. Where they got their sources is beyond me but analysts usually talk with suppliers / management to estimate the costing of new products.

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#124 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Analyst from CLSA and Macquarie. Both are reputable financial institutions. These are not gaming journalists that spout nonsense without data.They spend hundreds of hours studying financial statements of a company and the market in general before they publish these kinds of "opinions".

I'm an analyst myself :?

nitekids2004

Not dissing you specifically, but please explain what kind of basis in any economic concept or theory this (or any other 'Nintendo is doomed!') has.

Nowhere in the article did it say that Nintendo is doomed. Rather, they just pointed out that the gaming market Nintendo once held might be shrinking and for Nintendo to capture (or recapture) that market, they should also shift their strategy.

The $350 to break-even for the Wii U might not be as far fetched as people think it is. After all, the tablet controller is obviously going to cost alot. Where they got their sources is beyond me but analysts usually talk with suppliers / management to estimate the costing of new products.

Here are the problems with this article: a) The controller is not a tablet controller. It has no processor in it, no CPU, no GPU, no chip; all it has is a shell, the touch screen, a receiver for the stream that it gets from the console, a transmitter to transmit button presses, and a decoder for all of that. How expensive can all of this be? How costly do you expect a resistive touch screen to be, especially at bulk prices? b) The analysts have no clue what they're talking about. They have no information. Get a load of this: 'Imazu said Nintendo, which earns about four-fifths of its revenue overseas, should get a boost this business term from a weaker yen and the launch of popular game titles including Mario Party 8 and the latest installment of Dragon Quest from Square Enix....' '3DS, the new DS version...' 'launch of the new Wii console...' There is a complete lack of information and knowledge on the analysts' parts c) '"Nintendo has to deal with the change and let Mario games be played on non-Nintendo devices," said Imazu. "I think it will take at least couple of years to see that." Any drastic strategy shift that would dispatch the Mario brothers into the realm of Android and Apple's iOS operating system would likely require a change at the top of Nintendo, said Macquarie's Gibson. And that likely won't happen for a couple of years until the Wii U is shown to be a clear failure, he added.' Realy? That doesn't sound like bullsh*t propaganda to you? That actually sounds like an economically sound hypothesis? Essentially it says 'Nintendo needs to start making iOS games, but it won't happen as long as Iwata is at the top; so Iwata will have to be replaced, and the reason for that will be the Wii U's failure. Just cause.' I mean come on now.
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#125 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

lol, analyst getting laughed at by some random forum poster, yet analyst gets published and gets paid for his predictions, lol yea laugh at them lol

nitekids2004

So what? Just getting a paycheck and/or being published on media outlets doesn't mean anything more credible than a random forum poster's opinion. The media picks up on anything Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan say as well. I don't suppose you hold them with high regard do you?

Analyst from CLSA and Macquarie. Both are reputable financial institutions. These are not gaming journalists that spout nonsense without data.They spend hundreds of hours studying financial statements of a company and the market in general before they publish these kinds of "opinions".

I'm an analyst myself :?

These analysts are useless becuase they tell us what they think Nintendo should do, not what Nintendo will do.

Everyone knows Nintendo would go bankrupt before they put Mario on someone elses platform.

Everyone knew Nintendo would not release a Wii HD in 2009/2010 because it's not something Nintendo would do, even if the numbers suggest that it's a good idea.

Furthermore, they do these controversial articles solely for hits.

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#126 magiciandude
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Yeah, yeah, how many times have we heard this before?

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#127 Containmomentum
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Actually, the Mario thing makes some sense. Look at the GC and look at the Wii for all major Nintendo franchises? All the ones that did good in the GC era beyond expectation either don't exist or did poorly in comparison. All the ones that did bad or were Zelda and Mario did better. Now that the casuals have died, unless they think they can get them again with the Wii U, most likely, the Wii U will be another GC, where they will have to focus more on 3 franchises on their system.