Analyst: Xbox One Installed Base Will Equal PS4's In 2015

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#1 Scipio8
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http://www.gamepur.com/news/17511-analyst-xbox-one-strong-sale-will-continue-and-installed-base-will-equal.html

Sorry cows, there will be no domination

Recently, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price point after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

In a recent interview to GameIndustryBiz, Billy Pidgeon stated that Sony will not maintain PlayStation 4's out of the gate lead this console cycle. In 2015, Xbox One's installed will be equal to PlayStation 4's and in the long run, both consoles will be evenly matched, neither Sony nor Microsoft will dominate.

Here are the exact words of Billy Pidgeon on PS4 vs Xbox One Battle In 2015:

"Xbox One hardware is indeed selling stronger at the end of 2014, and this should continue into 2015. This is not because Sony is slipping, but because Microsoft is catching up.

As hardware prices drop and exclusives and franchises begin to cluster on Xbox One, an ever-larger group of gamers is upgrading from Xbox 360. I don't think that Xbox One penetration will pull out far ahead of PS4, but rather that the two consoles should be evenly matched throughout the cycle.

Also, a larger percentage of gamer households currently own both Sony and Microsoft eighth generation consoles, and this trend is likely to continue this cycle."

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#2 ghostwarrior786
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lol the analyst i believe is patchter

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#3 Scipio8
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LOL I know cows lack reading and comprehension skills but please make an effort

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol the analyst i believe is patchter

Recently, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price point after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

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#4  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@Scipio8 said:

LOL I know cows lack reading and comprehension skills but please make an effort

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol the analyst i believe is patchter

Recently, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price point after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

lmao what a fail on ur part, 'Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015'. pachters analysis goes against ur topic title so wtf are u talking about? billy 'pigeon' pidgeon? lololol a bird is making predictions now

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#5  Edited By MarkAndExecute
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I would like to see MS overtake Sony for once, while curbstomping Nintendo on the side lol

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol the analyst i believe is patchter

Patchter predicted that the xbone would win September. Nope.

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#7 freedomfreak
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You know, I like the name Billy Pidgeon.

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#8  Edited By AM-Gamer
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He must mean in NA because it has no chance Worldwide.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Scipio8 said:

LOL I know cows lack reading and comprehension skills but please make an effort

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol the analyst i believe is patchter

Recently, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price point after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

lmao what a fail on ur part, 'Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015'. pachters analysis goes against ur topic title so wtf are u talking about? billy 'pigeon' pidgeon? lololol a bird is making predictions now

Yes, he does what pidgeons do best: shit on industry.

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#10  Edited By lglz1337
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my prediction is XposBone will fall behind and my track record is alot better!

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#11 bunchanumbers
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MS needs a game to take off and be generation defining. Like how Gears of War did it for the 360. If this happens then I can see X1 sales taking off in a big way. But only if they keep the console price below the PS4.

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#12 EG101
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North America it might be possible but World Wide probably never. I think it would take some amazing games from Rare to really put XB1 in a descent position to maybe over take PS4 in NA. Really doubt MS will invest in it though. A good platforming Banjo game, Rare/MS SSB wanna be, Full Jet Ski racing game based on that KSR Jet Ski mini game could really push XB1 into eating up some WII U sales. PS4 already has all sorts of Mind share thats going to be hard to get passed for the XB division.

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#13 tdkmillsy
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There is evidence Microsoft isn't going to sit down and let PS4 dominate, but time will tell.

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#14 LJS9502_basic
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Hahahaha....Pachter.

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#15  Edited By SolidTy
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@Scipio8: I believe this supposed "Billy Pidgeon" analyst cited in this no-name website because Mr. billy Pidgeon said the words I crave to hear. Thank you Billy Pidgeon.

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Well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

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the "analyst" must be as delusional as lemmings in here.

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#17 Fairmonkey
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LOL not a snowballs chance in hell. Lets start placing bets if ur SOOOO confident lems

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#18 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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We'll see.

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#19 starwolf474
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I strongly doubt that will happen worldwide, but I do believe Xbox will have taken back the lead in America by the end of 2015.

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#20  Edited By kinectthedots
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Here are the exact words of Billy Pidgeon on PS4 vs Xbox One Battle In 2015:

"Xbox One hardware is indeed selling stronger at the end of 2014, and this should continue into 2015. This is not because Sony is slipping, but because Microsoft is catching up.

Lol, and here I thought it was because MS cut the price of the xbone to the cost of a half eaten left over sandwich with 2 to 3 free games thrown in for good measure at the end of 2014.

Context and relevance is everything and...the fact that this still only applies to USA =/= WW lol pretty sure PS4 still beat xbone in WW sales so how exactly is MS catching up...?

lol

QUESTION:

What games are going to push xbone sales to continue "catching up" for the first 9 months of the year 2015? Anyone?

lol because releasing 2 to 3 big games the last 3 months of the year after having absolutely nothing for the rest of the year will have xbones flying of the shelves.

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#21 HitmanActual
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TC off his meds again?

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#22  Edited By Ghost120x
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Anything can happen, I guess. If Sony keeps sitting around and doing nothing while MS makes great exclusives along with price drops/bundles I can see it happening. The PS3 caught up with the 360 by doing what I just said.

If Sony keeps pushing out flops and doesn't show what their other studios are cooking up then It could happen.

I used to love my 360 at the beginning getting games like dead rising, crackdown, gears of war, eternal sonata, lost odysey, and halo 3. But then in the last half, MS stared focusing on kinect games and milking halo and Forza, thus losing variety in the library. Sony then started getting a variety of exclusives from both first and third party so I got a PS3 and never looked back. The very same thing can happen if Sony rests on their laurels.

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#24  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Analysts also said the Xbone would lead this gen pre-reveals.

Another embarassing Insipid8 thread. You should really stop trying. Billy the Pigeon isn't going to save you.

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#25 lamprey263
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must mean North America, because that's definitely not happening worldwide, even North America is very iffy but far more plausible than worldwide

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#26 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Worldwide?

BUUUUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Seriously, how dafuq do these guys get a job? honest question. In no way in HELL will the One ever catch up the PS4 worldwide. Maybe in US but never WW. You can quote me on this

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@Vatusus said:

Worldwide?

BUUUUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Seriously, how dafuq do these guys get a job? honest question. In no way in HELL will the One ever catch up the PS4 worldwide. Maybe in US but never WW. You can quote me on this

This.

The guy is nuts. Worldwide X1 might be where PS4 is now at the end of the year but there's no way they'll both be at the same place in 2015. Even with the price cuts PS4 has been outselling X1 worldwide.

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#28 Wickerman777
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Analysts also said the Xbone would lead this gen pre-reveals.

Another embarassing Insipid8 thread. You should really stop trying. Billy the Pigeon isn't going to save you.

They were absolutely right to predict that. MS was poised to be the market leader this generation. But how could anyone have predicted that they'd suddenly decide to commit brand suicide with a bunch of dumb policies (They later fixed 'em but considerable damage had already been done) and weak hardware (No way they can change that)?

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#29  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@Wickerman777 said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

Analysts also said the Xbone would lead this gen pre-reveals.

Another embarassing Insipid8 thread. You should really stop trying. Billy the Pigeon isn't going to save you.

They were absolutely right to predict that. MS was poised to be the market leader this generation. But how could anyone have predicted that they'd suddenly decide to commit brand suicide with a bunch of dumb policies (They later fixed 'em but considerable damage had already been done) and weak hardware (No way they can change that)?

True. So how the hell Billy the Pigeon thinks the install base will equal with the Xbone's no games and ongoing reputation issues is beyond me.

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#30  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@Wickerman777 said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

Analysts also said the Xbone would lead this gen pre-reveals.

Another embarassing Insipid8 thread. You should really stop trying. Billy the Pigeon isn't going to save you.

They were absolutely right to predict that. MS was poised to be the market leader this generation. But how could anyone have predicted that they'd suddenly decide to commit brand suicide with a bunch of dumb policies (They later fixed 'em but considerable damage had already been done) and weak hardware (No way they can change that)?

Really? Considering they didn't come in first or second last gen?

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Wickerman777 said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

Analysts also said the Xbone would lead this gen pre-reveals.

Another embarassing Insipid8 thread. You should really stop trying. Billy the Pigeon isn't going to save you.

They were absolutely right to predict that. MS was poised to be the market leader this generation. But how could anyone have predicted that they'd suddenly decide to commit brand suicide with a bunch of dumb policies (They later fixed 'em but considerable damage had already been done) and weak hardware (No way they can change that)?

Really? Considering they didn't come in first or second last gen?

People just weren't ready for their vision, yo.

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#32 RedentSC
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"Also, a larger percentage of gamer households currently own both Sony and Microsoft eighth generation consoles, and this trend is likely to continue this cycle."

WTF is this shit? a larger percentage? against what? People who only own a PS4, PS3, 360 or xbone?

Also i find it rediculas that more than 50% of the poeple currently enjoying next gen has bought both console... that is insanity, Not that its not possible, but one a few, priviledged people can afford to pay for both consoles... so no, its bullshit

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#33 FoxbatAlpha
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Analysts. meh.

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#34 MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

@MarkAndExecute said:

I would like to see MS overtake Sony for once, while curbstomping Nintendo on the side lol

Microsoft may overtake Sony, but neither company will ever "curbstomp" Nintendo, especially with sony on the verge of bankruptcy and Microsoft losing almost $2 billion per year on the xbox brand.

And Nintendo will never overtake either of them...but hey whatever makes you feel better about being the 3rd place loser.

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@Ghost120x said:

Anything can happen, I guess. If Sony keeps sitting around and doing nothing while MS makes great exclusives along with price drops/bundles I can see it happening. The PS3 caught up with the 360 by doing what I just said.

If Sony keeps pushing out flops and doesn't show what their other studios are cooking up then It could happen.

I used to love my 360 at the beginning getting games like dead rising, crackdown, gears of war, eternal sonata, lost odysey, and halo 3. But then in the last half, MS stared focusing on kinect games and milking halo and Forza, thus losing variety in the library. Sony then started getting a variety of exclusives from both first and third party so I got a PS3 and never looked back. The very same thing can happen if Sony rests on their laurels.

What make you think sony is sitting around doing nothing.? The XBO has no games for the first 9 months of the year,last time i check a year wasn't constitute of just October,November and December there are other 9 months before those,and MS has nothing basically until september.

While we get to start,Bloodborn,The order and MLB in just the first 3 months.

The PS3 catch the xbox 360 because MS was never big outside US,and the PS was still a powerful brand.

Yeah because Halo didn't flop like hell this pass november right.?

That is basically what MS has a milkaton,2013 Forza 5,2014 Halo MCC + Forza HR2,2015 Halo 5 + Forza 6 is the same shit all over again...

Sony is working on exclusives and the PS4 actually has more games coming this year than the xbox one,and that is before MS announce that it would probably had to delay some games.

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#36 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos:

Funny how you can find a single website and claim its fact when it supports you narrow minded opinion. Yet when someone produces a website that goes against you just cant handle it and it must be wrong.

Until we know exactly how many games are being released on both consoles for the whole year, you cannot 100% guarantee the PS4 has more. Microsoft may (there's that word again remember it doesn't mean will) open their store across tablets, desktops, phones and Xbox One in 2015 and this may (not will remember) equal more games on the Xbox One. Sony have told us about more games but that doesn't mean it has more.

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#37  Edited By tormentos
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@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos:

Funny how you can find a single website and claim its fact when it supports you narrow minded opinion. Yet when someone produces a website that goes against you just cant handle it and it must be wrong.

Until we know exactly how many games are being released on both consoles for the whole year, you cannot 100% guarantee the PS4 has more. Microsoft may (there's that word again remember it doesn't mean will) open their store across tablets, desktops, phones and Xbox One in 2015 and this may (not will remember) equal more games on the Xbox One. Sony have told us about more games but that doesn't mean it has more.

That is funny because i most of the times post one but several links to things and you your self discredit them,like all the link i found tagging what MS did with Kinect as a PRICE DROP even this own site and you people would not admit it,so once again cry me a rive hypocrite.

http://www.listwar.com/upcoming-games/

Yeah those games made for touchscreen sure would work well your TV...Oh but way you say MAY again...

There again i have a link and you have what.????

So you can begin your usual link downplay,man you are so piss off because i make you look bad is not even funny your recent obsession with anything i say is epic..hahahahaa

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#38 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos:

I see

You can say PS4 has more games and provide a link because it shows that point.

But should the Xbox One get more games all of sudden the way the games work means they are not counted. Games cant use multiple input devices.

that's how it works in your world.

I asked you to stop replying to me but you carried on. You think its an achievement to post someones live id on a public forum and accuse me of being more than one person even when I say I'm not.

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#39  Edited By misterpmedia
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@hitmanactual said:

TC off his meds again?

there aren't meds in the world that can cure that

OT: Worldwide?

Wasn't the last bastion of hope for lems, China? Phhrrpahaha
Sony is cheaper and the console isn't even region locked.

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Whatever this dude is smoking must be really good!

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#42 Cloud_imperium
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Just VGcharts and kdramasters, anything related to Pachter should be blacklisted.

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#43  Edited By MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

@MarkAndExecute said:

And Nintendo will never overtake either of them...but hey whatever makes you feel better about being the 3rd place loser.

Nintendo makes money in gaming, thus they have already "overtaken" both of them. Until the other two demonstrate that they can actually profit from the endeavours, they'll always be behind Nintendo. Don't like it? Sorry.

Thankfully gaming journalists don't see it that way. They're still lagging behind, whether you want to admit it or not. That's why there was an editorial here in Gamespot about Nintendo quietly killing the Wii U. Everyone knows this. Even Nintendo themselves know this. That's why they're changing their strategy. If they've already overtaken then there would be no need for change regarding the Quality of Life platform.

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#44 Heil68
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I think sales between the 2 consoles will be close with PS4 getting the edge by 5-10 million by gen end.

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#45 KratosYOLOSwag
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Billy Pidgeon lol

So this is who lems flock to in their time of need.

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#46 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Came for the Pachter stayed for the Pidgeon shit.

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#47 Zelda187
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LOL

No it won't

Especially outside of America.

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#48  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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I think it will be closer than people think... but I doubt they'll overtake. But you never know I guess.

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@tormentos said:

@Ghost120x said:

Anything can happen, I guess. If Sony keeps sitting around and doing nothing while MS makes great exclusives along with price drops/bundles I can see it happening. The PS3 caught up with the 360 by doing what I just said.

If Sony keeps pushing out flops and doesn't show what their other studios are cooking up then It could happen.

I used to love my 360 at the beginning getting games like dead rising, crackdown, gears of war, eternal sonata, lost odysey, and halo 3. But then in the last half, MS stared focusing on kinect games and milking halo and Forza, thus losing variety in the library. Sony then started getting a variety of exclusives from both first and third party so I got a PS3 and never looked back. The very same thing can happen if Sony rests on their laurels.

What make you think sony is sitting around doing nothing.? The XBO has no games for the first 9 months of the year,last time i check a year wasn't constitute of just October,November and December there are other 9 months before those,and MS has nothing basically until september.

While we get to start,Bloodborn,The order and MLB in just the first 3 months.

The PS3 catch the xbox 360 because MS was never big outside US,and the PS was still a powerful brand.

Yeah because Halo didn't flop like hell this pass november right.?

That is basically what MS has a milkaton,2013 Forza 5,2014 Halo MCC + Forza HR2,2015 Halo 5 + Forza 6 is the same shit all over again...

Sony is working on exclusives and the PS4 actually has more games coming this year than the xbox one,and that is before MS announce that it would probably had to delay some games.

Well, in my opinion Sony has done little to stop the Xbox from gaining momentum. According to the Sony fans on here, they say that Sony has many "world class" studios, so where are the games besides the ones you mentioned? (LOL for even mentioning the Order)

Also the ps3 didn't catch up because it had better brand power because if the brand was so strong, people would have been willing to shell out $600 for a ps3 much like how Apple overcharges for its phones today, now that's true brand power. Sony changed their online infrastructure to match Xbox live, they added trophy support, they cut the price and they made smart bundle decisions like the GTA 5 bundle and much more. All of these actions are similar what MS is doing with the Xbox one right now.

Like I said in other threads, I noticed when I a console is leading in sales, the manufacture becomes arrogant and just takes all the money. Just look at how people were begging for Earth Bound on Wii and it never came, but now that the Wii U isn't doing so well, "Oh look guys, Earth Bound is here!"

The tides could very well change if Sony doesn't get competitive with price drops and getting more exclusives (not flops) under its belt.

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#50 polishkid99
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Yea.. i do not see it overtaking ps4 ever in worldwide sales. However, it might overtake usa sales eventually.