Announcing two new consoles at E3 would be a "strange lead-in" to spinning off the Xbox brand, Spencer says.

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#51 kingtito
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@Legend002 said:

You know what else strange? Not having any exclusive for your platform.

So you can play every game the X1 has on the PS4?

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#52  Edited By Legend002
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@kingtito: No but I certainly can play them without of Xbone.

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@kingtito: No but I certainly can play them without of Xbone.

So everyone has a gaming PC then?

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#54 Legend002
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@kingtito: I do. =D

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@Legend002 said:

You know what else strange? Not having any exclusive for your platform.

So you getting Halo/Forza/Gears (like you cows go on about all the time) for the PS4?

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@i_p_daily: PC =D

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I mean, that's kind of a "no shit" scenario.

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#58  Edited By SolidTy
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@loe12k said:
@Desmonic said:

You know what is even stranger Phil? Making sure your brand new Xbox S will be DOA by announing a new, better, stronger console is coming out in a year or so. Way to waste money bro :P


And xbox one is out three years already. By the time the Scorpio release it will be 5 years.

Incorrect on two points.

1.) The Xbone has been out for two years already, and it's approaching it's third year.

2.) The Xbone released in Nov 2013, the Xbone Scorpio is due Holiday 2017.

The Xbone would be four years old, not five, when the Xbone Scorpio releases.

Conjecture on why you changed the timeline aside, your timetable is off.

I know this because I bought an Xbone on launch day, so it's easy to remember.

A year in the console world is a long time and a lot can change in a single year.

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#59 kingtito
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@Legend002 said:

@kingtito: I do. =D

So that would be a no. So how exactly does a game being shared with PC == strange since it still can't be played on the PS4? It doesn't since you have PC gamers and you have console gamers.

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@Legend002: You jump up & down on here playing some sort of no exclusives card, yet you're still buying MS games, and thus giving your money to MS.

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@bunchanumbers said:

The Scorpio announcement has everyone flipping out. Announcing the most powerful console in all of human history will do that. I didn't think that there would be reactions like this though. And as odd as it sounds, the S model is already selling preorders. So its not the end of Xbox like predicted.

Well, Xbox One S is price competitive 4K ultra-blu-ray player that can play Xbox One games.

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@ronvalencia: I'll correct you. It's priced correctly as a video game console that also happens to be a 4K Blu-Ray player. The majority of people buying this are not solely buying it can play 4K Blu-Rays. In fact how would any non-gaming population really know about it. They weren't watching E3. Unless they've seen and online ad, they wouldn't know.

It's an Amazon #1 best seller already because gamers are buying it.

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#63  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Legend002 said:

@kingtito: No but I certainly can play them without of Xbone.

Without Microsoft Windows 10 and Windows store?

Xbox One has customized Windows 10 with DirectX12 and AMD GPU intrinsics (e.g. Doom 2016 XBO build) . AMD recently enabled shader intrinsics for PC's GCNs.

Loading Video...

Build a PC box with Xbox One S's $299 price tag that can play Quantum Break at Xbox One level.

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@charizard1605 said:

I mean, he's right. At this point it's pretty clear that no matter what Microsoft and Xbox do, those who want them to leave the market will manage to spin it into something negative regardless.

Does anybody besides SW trolls actually want them to leave the market though? Less competition is bad for everyone.

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Looks more like a desperate attempt to save the Xbox brand

2 consoles? one of them is 1.5 years away? WTF?

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@i_p_daily said:
@Legend002 said:

You know what else strange? Not having any exclusive for your platform.

So you getting Halo/Forza/Gears (like you cows go on about all the time) for the PS4?

No, but doesn't change the fact Xbox One will have ZERO exclusives from now on.

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@ronvalencia: I'll correct you. It's priced correctly as a video game console that also happens to be a 4K Blu-Ray player. The majority of people buying this are not solely buying it can play 4K Blu-Rays. In fact how would any non-gaming population really know about it. They weren't watching E3. Unless they've seen and online ad, they wouldn't know.

It's an Amazon #1 best seller already because gamers are buying it.

I'll correct you

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3639489/Microsoft-s-Xbox-One-S-revealed-Console-40-cent-smaller-built-power-supply-4K-ultra-high-definition.html

http://www.cnet.com/news/the-xbox-one-s-could-be-4k-blu-rays-white-knight-and-it-plays-games-too/ (part of CBS Interactive group)

http://time.com/4369910/xbox-one-s-project-scorpio-microsoft-e3-2016/

Xbox One S's 4K blu-ray play-back made it on mainstream press.

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@ronvalencia: so, you cite two articles as a way to say that people are purchasing the Xbox One S in the numbers that they are due to the 4K BluRay player? You're just wrong. The BluRay player is the icing and not the actual cake.

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@Toxic-Seahorse said:
@charizard1605 said:

I mean, he's right. At this point it's pretty clear that no matter what Microsoft and Xbox do, those who want them to leave the market will manage to spin it into something negative regardless.

Does anybody besides SW trolls actually want them to leave the market though? Less competition is bad for everyone.

Most people aren't aware of this. afew posters here think gaming would be better off if sony had total control of the market.

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@me2002 said:

Looks more like a desperate attempt to save the Xbox brand

2 consoles? one of them is 1.5 years away? WTF?

Saving from what? Xbox is fine, fanboys are the only ones that seem to think they're in need of saving. You a fanboy?

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#71  Edited By ronvalencia
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@mprince131 said:

@ronvalencia: so, you cite two articles as a way to say that people are purchasing the Xbox One S in the numbers that they are due to the 4K BluRay player? You're just wrong. The BluRay player is the icing and not the actual cake.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/15/how-microsoft-decided-to-play-its-poker-hand-at-its-e3-press-event/

McCarthy: Pricing is always—that’s what I love about Xbox One S. We’re going to be available with HDR gaming capability, 4K video, and Blu-ray. Blu-ray alone—most 4K Blu-ray players right now are more expensive than the $299 we’re starting out for Xbox One S in August. Those considerations, making sure we have a price point that customers can enter on, that’s important for us.

For Xbox One S, Microsoft is angling gaming and 4K blu-ray players price points i.e. MS copied Sony's PS2 (DVD video) and PS3 (Blu-Ray video) play book.

Xbox One S's 4K blu-ray play-back made it on mainstream press.

http://time.com/4369910/xbox-one-s-project-scorpio-microsoft-e3-2016/

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-electronic-entertainment-expo-2016-20160610-snap-story.html

http://www.enstarz.com/articles/164987/20160623/xbox-one-s-news-updates-microsofts-new-console-worthy-upgrade.htm

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@kingtito: yes and so are you, at least im not embarrassed to say it

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@ronvalencia: cool. In all of these they mention it. It is a feature after all of course they're going to mention it. So you are saying that the people who are buying it are general public people who have been waiting to pull the trigger on a $300 BluRay player? Scratch that $400, since the 2 TB is the only one that has been selling well due to its closer vailability date. You're insane. Any time hardware is unveiled its written about. Your links mean little to nothing.

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@i_p_daily said:

@Legend002: You jump up & down on here playing some sort of no exclusives card, yet you're still buying MS games, and thus giving your money to MS.

Of course. I bought 3 Xbones, Windows 10 and office licenses. So what?

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Gotta love the dumb lems who think giving money to MS changes the fact that their games are no longer exclusive to Xbox hardware.

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@charizard1605 said:

I mean, he's right. At this point it's pretty clear that no matter what Microsoft and Xbox do, those who want them to leave the market will manage to spin it into something negative regardless.

Yep, pretty much. Xbox isn't going anywhere... and despite what certain fanboys will say, that's good for the industry.

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@kingtito: yes and so are you, at least im not embarrassed to say it

Yeah but the difference is I don't asinine statements like "x company is doomed, or X needs to get out of the console business" garbage like you just did. I wouldn't want any of the big 3 out but it's pretty sad a fanboy like you doesn't feel the same. You're not a gamer, just a pathetic fanboy

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Gotta love the dumb lems who think giving money to MS changes the fact that their games are no longer exclusive to Xbox hardware.

Why are you calling your fellow lems dumb?

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@i_p_daily said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Gotta love the dumb lems who think giving money to MS changes the fact that their games are no longer exclusive to Xbox hardware.

Why are you calling your fellow lems dumb?

If he becomes a lem, I'm outta here. lol :P

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#80  Edited By ronvalencia
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@ronvalencia: cool. In all of these they mention it. It is a feature after all of course they're going to mention it. So you are saying that the people who are buying it are general public people who have been waiting to pull the trigger on a $300 BluRay player? Scratch that $400, since the 2 TB is the only one that has been selling well due to its closer vailability date. You're insane. Any time hardware is unveiled its written about. Your links mean little to nothing.

$399 SKU doesn't define Xbox One S's future results. I didn't made my statement with just $399 SKUs nor Amazon source.

Since you are using Amazon source.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UBD-K8500-Wi-Fi-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01A9V6OI6/ref=sr_1_1?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1466766010&sr=1-1&keywords=4k+ultra+blu-ray+player

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Xbox One S $299 SKU pre-order.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-500GB-Console/dp/B01GW3GY3K/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1466766455&sr=1-2&keywords=xbox+one+s+console

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3083067/software-games/microsoft-confirms-slimmer-xbox-s-for-august-at-299.html

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@Legend002:

So you bought a console that has no "exclusives" as you love to point out 3 times? LOL. What logic is that since you seem to love exclusives so much since you bring it up all the time in here.

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@me2002 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Legend002 said:

You know what else strange? Not having any exclusive for your platform.

So you getting Halo/Forza/Gears (like you cows go on about all the time) for the PS4?

No, but doesn't change the fact Xbox One will have ZERO exclusives from now on.

The only people who care about that is you cows, you use it to try and prove superiority, but as long as the games i want to play are still available on console, than I care not if they go to Windows 10 PC also.

You keep the good fight up Sony soldier I hope Sony rewards you one day for your good work :P

@SecretPolice said:
@i_p_daily said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Gotta love the dumb lems who think giving money to MS changes the fact that their games are no longer exclusive to Xbox hardware.

Why are you calling your fellow lems dumb?

If he becomes a lem, I'm outta here. lol :P

He has always been a lem hiding in cows clothing. Didn't you know his real handle is MasterChiefSwag :P

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@me2002 said:

Looks more like a desperate attempt to save the Xbox brand

2 consoles? one of them is 1.5 years away? WTF?

This^

They killed X1S out the gate. Thet may have hurt the X1 already weak sales too.

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@i_p_daily:

LOL, no didn't know that I only knew of Heil as a lem in cowhide. :P

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@SecretPolice: Well for someone who's supposed to be a cow, he talks way more about MS, so i'm saying he's a lem in cows clothing and named him MasterChiefsSwag lol.

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#87  Edited By SecretPolice
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@i_p_daily:

Lol so true and there's a whole lot more here who do the same but yeah, he may be king of talking more X1 than anything else.

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#88  Edited By Legend002
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@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@Legend002:

So you bought a console that has no "exclusives" as you love to point out 3 times? LOL. What logic is that since you seem to love exclusives so much since you bring it up all the time in here.

Because I can. Doesn't change the fact the bone is a terrible console without ant exclusives.

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@SolidTy said:
@loe12k said:
@Desmonic said:

You know what is even stranger Phil? Making sure your brand new Xbox S will be DOA by announing a new, better, stronger console is coming out in a year or so. Way to waste money bro :P


And xbox one is out three years already. By the time the Scorpio release it will be 5 years.

Incorrect on two points.

1.) The Xbone has been out for two years already, and it's approaching it's third year.

2.) The Xbone released in Nov 2013, the Xbone Scorpio is due Holiday 2017.

The Xbone would be four years old, not five, when the Xbone Scorpio releases.

Conjecture on why you changed the timeline aside, your timetable is off.

I know this because I bought an Xbone on launch day, so it's easy to remember.

A year in the console world is a long time and a lot can change in a single year.

Gap of 4 months till 5 years come on does it have to be exact? The xbox will be out closer to 5 years then 4 years.

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#90  Edited By deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@Legend002 said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@Legend002:

So you bought a console that has no "exclusives" as you love to point out 3 times? LOL. What logic is that since you seem to love exclusives so much since you bring it up all the time in here.

Because I can. Doesn't change the fact the bone is a terrible console without ant exclusives.

And yet you bought that terrible console with no exclusives 3 times LOL. That's a clown move.

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#91 Legend002
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@BigShotSmoov007: You right about terrible console without any exclusives. Good thing for MS I do charity.

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@Legend002:

I didn't say anything about it being a terrible console, you did. Smart people don't donate to charity as you say then turn around and call it terrible. Especially 3 times lol. Clownish move.

Thank god for MS there's a lot of fools in this world.

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He also said he is not a fan of Xbox One 1.5, look at how it turned out

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"The reason we announced when we did--one is I wanted to give customers a view into what we were doing," Spencer said at the show. "If they say I have an Xbox One now, I'm thinking about an Xbox One S, I want to be as transparent as I can be so they know they're buying with as much information as I can give them.

How many xbox one has being sold.?

Lets be transparent on something that is not coming for 1.5 years so we can rain on the competition parade and try to kill hype for their weaker system.

But as soon as the question is about sales,transparency is shut to hell..lol

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@loe12k said:

Anyone who a decent brain knew this already. Why would you release a new console in August and another more powerful xbox holiday 2017 if you wanted out of the console business? Personally, i think Scorpio has got the Playstation crowd upset and they are grasping for something to hold on to.

Last desperate effort? Announcing two consoles at the same time didn't make sense. No exclusives doesn't make sense. Continuing to bet on a losing horse doesn't make sense.

Several Microsoft executives (including Bill Gates) have publicly expressed favor in axing the Xbox. Unless something turns around for the Xbox it's going to happen.

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@Desmonic said:

You know what is even stranger Phil? Making sure your brand new Xbox S will be DOA by announing a new, better, stronger console is coming out in a year or so. Way to waste money bro :P

/s <- due to popular demand.

Exactly lol

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@skektek said:

Last desperate effort? Announcing two consoles at the same time didn't make sense. No exclusives doesn't make sense. Continuing to bet on a losing horse doesn't make sense.

Several Microsoft executives (including Bill Gates) have publicly expressed favor in axing the Xbox. Unless something turns around for the Xbox it's going to happen.

The fact is that they are not exhibiting ANY signs of abandoning Xbox and has made moves to further cement its future so, coming to that conclusion is rather silly.

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#99 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts

@kingtito said:
@Legend002 said:

You know what else strange? Not having any exclusive for your platform.

So you can play every game the X1 has on the PS4?

See when this ^^ is say about Sony you say nothing is when the xbox get into question that you come out of your cave,you are a lemming so sad you don't what a back bone to admit it,maybe when scorpio arrive you will. lol

@kingtito said:
@Legend002 said:

@kingtito: No but I certainly can play them without of Xbone.

So everyone has a gaming PC then?

But somehow everyone has an xbox one now.?

More PC gamers own a gaming PC than people who own an xbox one,and i ma not segregating them by power.

@kingtito said:
@Legend002 said:

@kingtito: I do. =D

So that would be a no. So how exactly does a game being shared with PC == strange since it still can't be played on the PS4? It doesn't since you have PC gamers and you have console gamers.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

Oh boy this is something but you are not a lemming right.? Hahahaaa

Yes they are not exclusive you don't need an xbox one to play them,regardless of not been available for PS4,come on you are not new on system wars,but then again you are a lemming and it was you people who invented the term console exclusives..lol

@i_p_daily said:

@Legend002: You jump up & down on here playing some sort of no exclusives card, yet you're still buying MS games, and thus giving your money to MS.

PC is not owned by MS and some of the xbox one exclusives are not from MS,like dead rising Ryse and many others,giving the money to MS change in nothing that you don't need an xbox one to play multiplatforms which are also available on PC.

The real winner here are Hermits which can play tons of games on PC + play what use to be xbox one exclusives...lol

@kuu2 said:

Bovine still a shit show after e3.

How are those inferior port on xbox one this days.? Hahahaaa

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#100 skektek
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@Pedro said:
@skektek said:

Last desperate effort? Announcing two consoles at the same time didn't make sense. No exclusives doesn't make sense. Continuing to bet on a losing horse doesn't make sense.

Several Microsoft executives (including Bill Gates) have publicly expressed favor in axing the Xbox. Unless something turns around for the Xbox it's going to happen.

The fact is that they are not exhibiting ANY signs of abandoning Xbox and has made moves to further cement its future so, coming to that conclusion is rather silly.

Except for moving all exclusives to PC and steering attention away from Xbox numbers in favor of Live numbers.