Anonymous Lists 3 Demands From Sony

oh lordy lord.

Man I can't wait for Sony to catch Anonymous, and trust me, they WILL catch him, it's only a matter of time. Better yet why doesn't just Sony hire Geohotz to catch Anonymous and Sony will give him a little break.

Blazerdt47

Man I can't wait for Sony to catch Anonymous, and trust me, they WILL catch him, it's only a matter of time. Better yet why doesn't just Sony hire Geohotz to catch Anonymous and Sony will give him a little break.

Blazerdt47

Man I can't wait for Sony to catch Anonymous, and trust me, they WILL catch him, it's only a matter of time. Better yet why doesn't just Sony hire Geohotz to catch Anonymous and Sony will give him a little break.

Blazerdt47

This might help you a bit :Phttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Not gonna happen, who are Sony to tell the consumer what to do ? just STFU and get a life.theuncharted34

Fixed that for you :)

the consumer has the right to do whatever they want with what they paid for, sure. as long as it doesn't hurt others in the process, which geohot releasing the keys caused. And that's all there is to it.

Gunpowder has probably taken countless lives by now. I'm pretty sure the inventor(s) are hailed as geniuses now. That's kind of analogous to what Geohot did. Also, if you haven't realized, I'm not being entirely serious, although this is where I stand on the issue. You people just take it way to seriously :D

ied be happy if they made them do a 3 year free extened warrenty on those faulty phat ps3s. they got till july to make that happen for me:) then my 3 years would be over:cry:

Sony: Lol no.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

sony doing that would be as likely a chicken walking into kfc.

MarcRecon

:lol:

love that analogy.

Me too:lol:

i don't. chickens are dumb, they wouldn't be able to reason that KFC serves chicken as food and that it better run. KFC resaurants don't kill the chickens themselves either, soooo.....

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Man I can't wait for Sony to catch Anonymous, and trust me, they WILL catch him, it's only a matter of time. Better yet why doesn't just Sony hire Geohotz to catch Anonymous and Sony will give him a little break.

tagyhag

They never tried to stop the modification of the ps3 until a hacker released a cracked version of their own firmware, thus making the modifications a security risk.

They haven't brought legal action against any people who possess the collected IPs. Apparently, the reason they asked to collect them in the first place was to show that the case should be heard in California.

Again, they are not bringing legal action to Hotz for altering a product he owns, they are bringing legal action against him for altering software they own and distributing it.

I agree with their point about allowing Linux and whatnot. Just because one bad apple screwed things up doesn't mean they should punish a whole userbase for it... what is this, third grade?

Of course they want 3 to happen. If sony starts suing the hell out of everyone in that IP address list, their Anonymous secret society will probably cease to exist overnight. :P

Hackers can do whatever they **** want to their consoles... but as soon as they do.. I don't want them allowed on PSN AT ALL! and no warranty. I will not risk my games being ruined so a bunch of nerds can modify **** on a gaming system.

somone else trying to black mail a company that brings in billions.....there lawyers are going to have a field daystereointegrity

Hackers can do whatever they **** want to their consoles... but as soon as they do.. I don't want them allowed on PSN AT ALL! and no warranty. I will not risk my games being ruined so a bunch of nerds can modify **** on a gaming system.

Infinite_Access

i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.TheAcountantMan

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

#3 is reasonable. But Sony shouldn't "give in" to anything. Give them something and they will only want more. The best thing for Sony to do is to operate as usual, free of what basement dwellers feel about their policies.

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.razgriz_101

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

Not playstation consumers silly. Who cares about playstation, playstation games, PSN, etc? All that matters is that the small group of people that want to use their PS3s for Linux, as a media hub, etc.

#3 is reasonable. But Sony shouldn't "give in" to anything. Give them something and they will only want more. The best thing for Sony to do is to operate as usual, free of what basement dwellers feel about their policies.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.razgriz_101

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

sony doing that would be as likely a chicken walking into kfc.

theuncharted34

Best analogy ever :lol:

And this Sony Geohot Annonymous case is getting ridiculous...ly awesome. :D Can't wait to see what happens.

i agree with _SWAG_, sony is the best imho

Cheesehead9099

Alpha-Male22

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.hakanakumono

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

Not playstation consumers silly. Who cares about playstation, playstation games, PSN, etc? All that matters is that the small group of people that want to use their PS3s for Linux, as a media hub, etc.

Theres only one person to be blamed for removal of Other OS. And thats their precious Geohot. He is responsible for the removal of Other OS.

Link

• Sony must end any attempts to bring legal action to alter a product they own.

Alpha-Male22

This one stands out to me. Really? Sony shouldn't be able to pursue legal action when people modify a product they own? Really? There other two are actually alot more reasonable.

lolwut? these hackers are getting annoying. so they want to help the community by causing more problems for legit gamers?

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.razgriz_101

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

I do think Anon's demands are too much though.

They used to be cute awhile back, now they're just annoying. I hope Sony just ignores the kids.

Twin-Blade

• Sony must allow for end-user modification of the PS3, as was available prior to the 3.21 firmware update.

This was allowed by Sony before 3.21 so it's not like they are asking for the PS3 SDK to be made open source or anything.

• Sony must end any attempts to bring legal action to alter a product they own.

They do own the system afterall, the problem is when you buy the PS3 you are agreeing to certain terms and one of those is that you won't circumvent the security which Geohotz has done although i think the court ruled that out so Sony is now trying to get Geo on the PSN accounts thing.

• Sony must not pursue legal action against any collected IP address.

we all know Sony getting the IP addresses of people who visited numerous sites was extreme so again Anonymous asking for that to stop and the information to remain private is not too extreme

I guess their demands aren't too extreme and they're not exactly asking Sony to drop all court cases against those pesky hackers. So i am still supporting Sony for the fact Geo knew hackers would pour into the PSN and ruin my gaming experience after what he did yet he played ignorance and went public with nothing more than fame on his mind.

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]tommyas

sony made geohotz hide in fear in southamerica and sony will do the same with these nonsense group. sony will deal with this so fast like nothing happened, in my eyes

_SWAG_

Said very well done, Exactly my thoughts :P

sony doing that would be as likely a chicken walking into kfc.

theuncharted34

I hate overused analogies, but here you go:

Yes, we own the PS3. However Sony owns the network and you obtain a license to use it by agreeing to certain terms. I own my car, but the state owns the road, and I am licensed to drive on them agreeing to certain conditions. Heck, I can even mod my car, but some mods are not allowable by law for safety concerns. Sony's ToU not only protects them, but as we've seen from experience, also protect the average consumer's gaming experience. No reasonable consumer wants a hacker to have free reign on Sony's network.

So, as I see it, it's not Anon that's standing up for my rights, but rather Sony, who is trying to assure that all games function fairly and in the manner the developer intended. If I can't play securely on their network knowing that the rules are fair, then I'm not going to own the console. So, no, Anon is not doing this for me, but rather, they are doing it because they are self-righteous thugs who want to make a name for themselves.

Oh, and whatever happened to the idea that if you don't like what one company is doing, you can always go to their competition? Heck, if modding is your thing, why bother with consoles to begin with? Just play on the PC and leave the rest of us alone.

Ah, good to see that Anon's plans are still consistently amusing. They might truly be powerful if they actually stop to think things through.

Let's see:

Sony must allow for end-user modification of the PS3, as was available prior to the 3.21 firmware update.

Translation: Anon wants you to remove more of your security features.

What it would achieve:

• More hacking (due to the security vulnerabilities brought by OtherOS), which would lead to...
• More cheaters online
• More pirated games.
• General badness for the vast majority of Playstation users (although the vocal minority would be thrilled).

Sony must end any attempts to bring legal action to alter a product they own.

Translation: Anon wants you to give up any control you have over your own products.

What it would achieve:

• Sony would be unable to respond to new security threats, and thus there'd be more cheaters online and more pirated games.
• Encouragement of hacking or other unauthorised/illegal uses of the PS3, given that the modders won't be able to be sued by it. Thus there'd be more cheaters online and more pirated games.
• General badness for the vast majority of Playstation users (although the vocal minority would be thrilled).

Sony must not pursue legal action against any collected IP address.

Translation: Please don't come after us.

What it would achieve:

• Nothing in the way of preserving people's rights, since random IP addresses aren't going to be sued if they've done nothing wrong.
• Encouragement of hacking or other unauthorised/illegal uses of the PS3, given that their anonymity would be reinforced. Thus there'd be more cheaters online and more pirated games.
• General badness for the vast majority of Playstation users (although the vocal minority would be thrilled).

Maybe I've missed things or over-generalised, but...it's sort of sad and hilarious that they actually expect Sony to respond to their blackmail.

If this was a legal agreement, it'd automatically be invalid for any number of reasons (duress, lack of consideration, etc). The fact that it's definitely not a legal document, and is in fact just the demands of a bunch of self-righteous...people (who, ironically, refuse to stand up for themselves as individuals), ensures that no matter the result, it will achieve absolutely nothing.

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[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]i support geohotz with this, so yes i support anon aswell.blue_hazy_basic

how anyone can support a hypocritical bunch of basement dwellers is beyond me.

its in the name of consumerz!!!!!! *attacks* PSN >> Consumer "WTF anon"

I do think Anon's demands are too much though.

I guess this means they're going to spam Sony Exec's emails with porn until they get their way.