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#1 quakeknight1991
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Its also a crap cuz most of its games are just minigames with a crappy storyline or even without storyline. I mean thats wii is good for casual players but it actually hasnt got almost any games for hardcore gamers and that sucks, there are still many hardcore players around. It seems that nintendo forgot about hardcore gamers this time
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#2 Eponique
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What do you mean ANOTHER REASON?! This is the same old reason we've seen since WarioWare came out.

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#3 SpruceCaboose
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And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?
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#4 Teh_Stevz
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:|...

You made Tetris cry. :evil:

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And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?SpruceCaboose

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

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#6 Wiicraft
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And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?SpruceCaboose

Barbie Horse Adventure?

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#7 NorthlandMan
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What do you mean ANOTHER REASON?! This is the same old reason we've seen since WarioWare came out.

Eponique

:lol:

Too right . crybabies could at least try and be original

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#8 mmogoon
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I agree the Wii needs some hardcore games
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#9 Eponique
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?quakeknight1991

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?quakeknight1991

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

What makes Doom 3 a hardcore game? Its bloody, but its short and its mindless in its presentation. Or Gears? Both Doom and Gears are good games, but they are short, violent, and you can move through them with little thought. On the Wii, that part will be covered by Resident Evil 4 and Manhunt 2

Your other two examples are games that require a large chunk of time and effort, along with pre-planning and thought. Those on the Wii would be Zelda and Paper Mario so far, with more in the pipeline.

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#11 quakeknight1991
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LOL, it seems that almost every poster here is sheep, its really lame that there arent almost any lemms,cows or pc fanboys here
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LOL, it seems that almost every poster here is sheep, its really lame that there arent almost any lemms,cows or pc fanboys herequakeknight1991
You, my good sir, are sadly mistaken.
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#13 Keistation2
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Its also a crapquakeknight1991

Everyone should stop reading right here.

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-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

Eponique

I wouldnt call him hardcore. He had to leave the forums yesterday because (by his own admission) it was "past his bedtime". The day i listen to a 12 year old's definiition of hardcore is the day i quit gaming

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LOL, it seems that almost every poster here is sheep, its really lame that there arent almost any lemms,cows or pc fanboys herequakeknight1991

If you are calling me a sheep, you are sadly mistaken.

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#16 Eponique
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LOL, it seems that almost every poster here is sheep, its really lame that there arent almost any lemms,cows or pc fanboys herequakeknight1991

I bet they're embarassed to have you on their side... Because we would. (If you were your sheep opposite, or something like that).

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#17 quakeknight1991
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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?SpruceCaboose

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

What makes Doom 3 a hardcore game? Its bloody, but its short and its mindless in its presentation. Or Gears? Both Doom and Gears are good games, but they are short, violent, and you can move through them with little thought. On the Wii, that part will be covered by Resident Evil 4 and Manhunt 2

Your other two examples are games that require a large chunk of time and effort, along with pre-planning and thought. Those on the Wii would be Zelda and Paper Mario so far, with more in the pipeline.

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?Eponique

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

You only enjoy minigames? Rather convenient don't you think?

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They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames. quakeknight1991

Yes, lets discuss the Doom storyline:roll: (and I read the books way back in the day, you are probably too young to remember them)...And you do actually realize that all four of the games I listed have storylines as well. Even funnier, mini-game collections like Rayman Raving Rabbids has a story too....

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#20 NorthlandMan
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They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

quakeknight1991

To be fair though the story of Oblivion isn't the main draw of the game,it is how yougo about participating in the story that gives the game its value

and the stories in GEow and Doom 3 are about as complex as your average mario, most of us aren't little kids who are impressed by swearing and "scary monsters" so we already know this.

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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]LOL, it seems that almost every poster here is sheep, its really lame that there arent almost any lemms,cows or pc fanboys hereEponique

I bet they're embarassed to have you on their side... Because we would. (If you were your sheep opposite, or something like that).

Actually, I love my 360, but its one thing to like and support "your" system, and a whole different thing to lash out at another system,especially with painfully inaccurate, tired rhetoric.

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They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames. quakeknight1991
:|...

...Read my first post.

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#23 Eponique
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?quakeknight1991

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

What makes Doom 3 a hardcore game? Its bloody, but its short and its mindless in its presentation. Or Gears? Both Doom and Gears are good games, but they are short, violent, and you can move through them with little thought. On the Wii, that part will be covered by Resident Evil 4 and Manhunt 2

Your other two examples are games that require a large chunk of time and effort, along with pre-planning and thought. Those on the Wii would be Zelda and Paper Mario so far, with more in the pipeline.

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

...So 99.9% of games are hardcore? Why is there a thing called CASUALS then?!

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?mmogoon

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

You only enjoy minigames? Rather convenient don't you think?

I enjoy other stuff... Like Startegy, puzzle, adventure, racing etc. See, gaming taste ^^

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#24 Keistation2
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Some sheep better step in and cover up what an immense tard this guy is. He's ruining their good image.

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Its also a crap cuz most of its games are just minigames with a crappy storyline or even without storyline. I mean thats wii is good for casual players but it actually hasnt got almost any games for hardcore gamers and that sucks, there are still many hardcore players around. It seems that nintendo forgot about hardcore gamers this timequakeknight1991
You know what is real crap? This thread is eponymous of crap. You just rehashed a horrible old argument and didn't even bother to make a post that passably ressembles anything other than OPINION.
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#26 m_machine024
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The Wii doesn't only have minigames.
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#27 m_machine024
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I agree the Wii needs some hardcore gamesmmogoon
Yeah.
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Some sheep better step in and cover up what an immense tard this guy is. He's ruining their good image.

Keistation2

If you mean TC, he is bashing the Wii, which would not make him a sheep...

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#29 SpruceCaboose
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I mean, seriously, I could level a much harsher, and more accurate, criticism of the Wii, or any other console for that matter.
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#30 mmogoon
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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?Eponique

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

What makes Doom 3 a hardcore game? Its bloody, but its short and its mindless in its presentation. Or Gears? Both Doom and Gears are good games, but they are short, violent, and you can move through them with little thought. On the Wii, that part will be covered by Resident Evil 4 and Manhunt 2

Your other two examples are games that require a large chunk of time and effort, along with pre-planning and thought. Those on the Wii would be Zelda and Paper Mario so far, with more in the pipeline.

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

...So 99.9% of games are hardcore? Why is there a thing called CASUALS then?!

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?mmogoon

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

You only enjoy minigames? Rather convenient don't you think?

I enjoy other stuff... Like Startegy, puzzle, adventure, racing etc. See, gaming taste ^^

But not shooters or RPGs?

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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

NorthlandMan

To be fair though the story of Oblivion isn't the main draw of the game,it is how yougo about participating in the story that gives the game its value

and the stories in GEow and Doom 3 are about as complex as your average mario, most of us aren't little kids who are impressed by swearing and "scary monsters" so we already know this.

Im actually 16 years old, so dont say: L0l QuAkEKniGht1991 iS a LiTtle kId tHat 0nLy lIkEs SCaRy M000nsTers ANd SwEaRiNg

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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?mmogoon

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

What makes Doom 3 a hardcore game? Its bloody, but its short and its mindless in its presentation. Or Gears? Both Doom and Gears are good games, but they are short, violent, and you can move through them with little thought. On the Wii, that part will be covered by Resident Evil 4 and Manhunt 2

Your other two examples are games that require a large chunk of time and effort, along with pre-planning and thought. Those on the Wii would be Zelda and Paper Mario so far, with more in the pipeline.

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

...So 99.9% of games are hardcore? Why is there a thing called CASUALS then?!

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And in this example a "hardcore" game would be?mmogoon

I think thats pretty obvious, games like gears of war,elder scrolls oblivion, doom 3 or final fantasy XII are hardcore games

-_- So basically... games thatYOU like? Right?

I like minigames, and I don't give a flop about those games... It's called a gaming taste.

You only enjoy minigames? Rather convenient don't you think?

I enjoy other stuff... Like Startegy, puzzle, adventure, racing etc. See, gaming taste ^^

But not shooters or RPGs?

RPGs, I don't mind. But shooters, ick.

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Im actually 16 years old, so dont say: L0l QuAkEKniGht1991 iS a LiTtle kId tHat 0nLy lIkEs SCaRy M000nsTers ANd SwEaRiNgquakeknight1991
Keep talking like that and it could end up gospel. :P
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But not shooters or RPGs?

mmogoon

Not everyone does. I myself am not thrilled by 99% of the RPGs or racers on the market. Tastes differ. Not everyone likes every game or game type.

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#35 mmogoon
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

quakeknight1991

To be fair though the story of Oblivion isn't the main draw of the game,it is how yougo about participating in the story that gives the game its value

and the stories in GEow and Doom 3 are about as complex as your average mario, most of us aren't little kids who are impressed by swearing and "scary monsters" so we already know this.

Im actually 16 years old, so dont say: L0l QuAkEKniGht1991 iS a LiTtle kId tHat 0nLy lIkEs SCaRy M000nsTers ANd SwEaRiNg

Don't worry dude im with ya. Doom and Quake are some of my favourite games ever. id software will always be gods

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[QUOTE="mmogoon"]

But not shooters or RPGs?

SpruceCaboose

Not everyone does. I myself am not thrilled by 99% of the RPGs or racers on the market. Tastes differ. Not everyone likes every game or game type.

I know this. But jesus how can you not like a nice run 'n' gun shooter once in a while

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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]Im actually 16 years old, so dont say: L0l QuAkEKniGht1991 iS a LiTtle kId tHat 0nLy lIkEs SCaRy M000nsTers ANd SwEaRiNgTeh_Stevz
Keep talking like that and it could end up gospel. :P

The Gospel of Teh 1337 quakeknight1991! Quake 3:16 says "teh Wii is teh gimmick!"

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Some sheep better step in and cover up what an immense tard this guy is. He's ruining their good image.

Keistation2

Oh yeah, im just retarded just cuz i dont like the wii (sarcasm), you should learn to not insult people just cuz they say their opinon little kid. And whats also lame is if someone bashes the ps3 here nobody says nothing to him but if you bash the wii than you get insulted

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Not everyone does. I myself am not thrilled by 99% of the RPGs or racers on the market. Tastes differ. Not everyone likes every game or game type.

mmogoon

I know this. But jesus how can you not like a nice run 'n' gun shooter once in a while

I liked Doom 3 due to its atmosphere and XBL co-op. I usually don't get into the run n guns like Painkiller and Serious Sam. I've tried, but a run n gun needs something extra (good story, atmosphere, great graphics) to hook me into it, or else I tire of them quickly.

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#40 mmogoon
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[QUOTE="Keistation2"]

Some sheep better step in and cover up what an immense tard this guy is. He's ruining their good image.

quakeknight1991

Oh yeah, im just retarded just cuz i dont like the wii (sarcasm), you should learn to not insult people just cuz they say their opinon little kid. And whats also lame is if someone bashes the ps3 here nobody says nothing to him but if you bash the wii than you get insulted

Haha i totally agree. Why is it in system wars if you dont like the Wii then you mustn't be open minded and you must be immature. If you don't like the Wii then you get insulted, its true

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#41 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Keistation2"]

Some sheep better step in and cover up what an immense tard this guy is. He's ruining their good image.

quakeknight1991

Oh yeah, im just retarded just cuz i dont like the wii (sarcasm), you should learn to not insult people just cuz they say their opinon little kid. And whats also lame is if someone bashes the ps3 here nobody says nothing to him but if you bash the wii than you get insulted

Actually, I defend the PS3 as well. I will defend any of the systems, unless the criticism is something that is factual and valid.

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#42 NorthlandMan
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Oh yeah, im just retarded just cuz i dont like the wii (sarcasm), you should learn to not insult people just cuz they say their opinon little kid. And whats also lame is if someone bashes the ps3 here nobody says nothing to him but if you bash the wii than you get insulted

quakeknight1991

What's lame is that everyone on here has owned you multiple times and yetyou persist with your nonsensical posts

What's also lame is that you're calling other people little kids when you had to leave the forums yesterday because it was your bedtime

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#43 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="quakeknight1991"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="quakeknight1991"]

They are hardcore games cuz they have A STORYLINE and they arent minigames.

mmogoon

To be fair though the story of Oblivion isn't the main draw of the game,it is how yougo about participating in the story that gives the game its value

and the stories in GEow and Doom 3 are about as complex as your average mario, most of us aren't little kids who are impressed by swearing and "scary monsters" so we already know this.

Im actually 16 years old, so dont say: L0l QuAkEKniGht1991 iS a LiTtle kId tHat 0nLy lIkEs SCaRy M000nsTers ANd SwEaRiNg

Don't worry dude im with ya. Doom and Quake are some of my favourite games ever. id software will always be gods

He not saying they are bad just they don't have a story....The old Commander Keens that ID use to make have more of a story than Doom does but it does not make Doom a bad game. Just don't sit there and tell us that there is some deep story behind them.

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#44 SpruceCaboose
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He not saying they are bad just they don't have a story....The old Commander Keens that ID use to make have more of a story than Doom does but it does not make Doom a bad game. Just don't sit there and tell us that there is some deep story behind them.HarlockJC

Like I said earlier, there were Doom based books that did have a story and characters. They were actually pretty decent. However, the games themselves, especially Doom 3 (as story could be ignored in the "clas-sic PC days)should have had a better story, especially since the atmosphere and graphics made such an engaging world.

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#45 xscrapzx
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Its also a crap cuz most of its games are just minigames with a crappy storyline or even without storyline. I mean thats wii is good for casual players but it actually hasnt got almost any games for hardcore gamers and that sucks, there are still many hardcore players around. It seems that nintendo forgot about hardcore gamers this timequakeknight1991

I played the Wii a couple weeks ago for the first time, and I have to say it was fun. I played Wii sports, and I'll tell ya thats pretty fun if you get some people together and have some brews. The thing is that is very dissappointing is the graphics, and I played call of duty and the graphics were awful, and with the Wii remote playing that game is really not that great either. If I was to get the Wii it would be for the older games that I can play on it(which I can do now on the pc with roms) and Wii sports which was fun. I don't think the system is awful but I think that nintendo should of invested a little bit more into to make it as powerful as the other systems.

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#46 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]He not saying they are bad just they don't have a story....The old Commander Keens that ID use to make have more of a story than Doom does but it does not make Doom a bad game. Just don't sit there and tell us that there is some deep story behind them.SpruceCaboose

Like I said earlier, there were Doom based books that did have a story and characters. They were actually pretty decent. However, the games themselves, especially Doom 3 (as story could be ignored in the "clas-sic PC days)should have had a better story, especially since the atmosphere and graphics made such an engaging world.

I know where your coming from on the books, most games don't even care about the books. I use to read the old Bard Tale books and Wing Commander books way way back in the day.

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#47 quakeknight1991
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Oh yeah, im just retarded just cuz i dont like the wii (sarcasm), you should learn to not insult people just cuz they say their opinon little kid. And whats also lame is if someone bashes the ps3 here nobody says nothing to him but if you bash the wii than you get insulted

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What's lame is that everyone on here has owned you multiple times and yetyou persist with your nonsensical posts

What's also lame is that you're calling other people little kids when you had to leave the forums yesterday because it was your bedtime

Im called him a little kid cuz he just insulted me cuz i just said my opinion and mature people dont do usually this

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#48 samusarmada
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wasnt oblivion made more casual compared to morrowind, so it could work on the 360.

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#49 SpruceCaboose
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I played the Wii a couple weeks ago for the first time, and I have to say it was fun. I played Wii sports, and I'll tell ya thats pretty fun if you get some people together and have some brews. The thing is that is very dissappointing is the graphics, and I played call of duty and the graphics were awful, and with the Wii remote playing that game is really not that great either. If I was to get the Wii it would be for the older games that I can play on it(which I can do now on the pc with roms) and Wii sports which was fun. I don't think the system is awful but I think that nintendo should of invested a little bit more into to make it as powerful as the other systems.xscrapzx

I would say to you, wait until developers start putting out their best efforts before you buy the launch "slop" that 3rd parties sent with the Wii. Call of Duty on the Wii is a terrible effort from the developers, and is not nearly indicitive of what the Wii is capable of, nor its potential.

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#50 Keistation2
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Im called him a little kid cuz he just insulted me cuz i just said my opinion and mature people dont do usually this

I'm not insuting you because of your age, even though that alone is reason enough to insult you. I am insulting you because you have a limited perspective on what makes a good game. Also you type like an idiot.