Any site that rates MAG within the next 24 is not credible.

As quoted by sony devs

Reviews can't be written until the game is actually out. I mean, you can't pass pre-release judgment on a game whose major, industry-leading feature (256 players in a single battle) can't be tested until release day.

Since the game just came out 50 mins ago and it takes a while to unlock the features how can sites like thishave already passed judgment :question:

(and how is there an ave user rating already)

I guess that makes sense, but it kind of seems like Sony is grasping at straws to save face here.

Seriously. You would need, like, some sort of advanced review copy to review a game before it's released.

im seriously getting sick of MAG. im sure its going to be at least a decent if not great MP game but im sick of the 'omg 256 players in a game!!!!1' freakout.

its not new, its not innovative, its not really exciting. i see it as a selling point yes its a cool feature but its nothing to **** your neighbor over

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

Seriously. You would need, like, some sort of advanced review copy to review a game before it's released.

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Seriously. You would need, like, some sort of advanced review copy to review a game before it's released.

II_Seraphim_II

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

Reviewing the beta...that's rich. :lol:

There not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

You honestly are trying to justify reviewing a full game based off an older built beta. Im glad you arent reviewing. Even when you started up the MAG beta there was a screen informing you that it had minimum features, was based on older development and didnt offer the full experience given with the final game.

PPL look to reviews when considering to buy a game not the discontinued betas.

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Seriously. You would need, like, some sort of advanced review copy to review a game before it's released.

DarkLink77

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

No its not credible because the BETA has ended and so there is no one online and it is a beta which means its not finished, and im sure you will use the deffence "Its only in beta" when people criticize screens of the Halo Reach beta.

They held events for press types that featured the whole 256 player she-bang already, so this sounds like damage control...67gt500

Great another one. :x

Yes 67gt500 this is damage control. :roll:

Wow...people in SW actually advocating reviewing games based on BETAs...I've seen it all. We should start rating games based on demos from now on. Imagine how much more efficient we would be!

Well, Sony has put reviewers in a tough spot. It'll be interesting to see what major reviewers like EDGE, 1up, IGN, Gamespot, Eurogamer, etc. do in light of this.

Besides, they have more important things to do than wait on MAG... like review Mass Effect 2. :P

I kid, I kid.

I really hope they made major tweaks from the MAG BETA, because that was just horrible. Soupmate

The beta was bad how ?

[QUOTE="Soupmate"]I really hope they made major tweaks from the MAG BETA, because that was just horrible. 13C

The beta was bad how ?

because the graphics was last gen:cry:.........

i guess that makes sense. what with it being a multiplayer only game and all. no sp to test, so unless the review has 256 people, he wouldn't be able to see the whole game.

The game is garbage

industry-leading feature...bahahah.

PC had a game with 50 percent more people on a map 7 years ago. That's an FPS alone, not the dozens of MMOs that already do it.

[QUOTE="Soupmate"]I really hope they made major tweaks from the MAG BETA, because that was just horrible. 13C

The beta was bad how ?

im seriously getting sick of MAG. im sure its going to be at least a decent if not great MP game but im sick of the 'omg 256 players in a game!!!!1' freakout.

its not new, its not innovative, its not really exciting. i see it as a selling point yes its a cool feature but its nothing to **** your neighbor over

washd123

I really don'tread people hyping it for the 256 players in one game. I played the beta, only 64 players, and I liked the game design. I really don't care how many people are playing, becasue it is mostly two squadsvs two squads, I just like the game.

I guess that makes sense, but it kind of seems like Sony is grasping at straws to save face here.

DarkLink77

Right. They have a vested interest in making those statements.

Sorry to say, most of the sales are made in the first month or so of release. After that, the game has to be really special to keep selling. So while the iron's hot, that's when the reviews come out.

If a game doesn't grab me in the first couple hours of play, I probably won't continue playing or recommend it to others. As a consumer, I shouldn't have to wait weeks or months for the community to build up before I have a good impression of a game.

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.
Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

WilliamRLBaker

Also, it's not like people didn't get the game before release cause that never happens.... I'm sure there were plenty of players onWardemon50

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Reviewing the beta...that's rich. :lol:Gxgear

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.

Chutebox

Who cares, the lack of mics, the amount of TKers and the general generic feel of the game guarantees a low score.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]They are not credible because some how in a 2-3 week span Zipper interactive totally changed the graphical look, feel and gameplay of MAG they did so much thats its not even the same game.Come on seriously if any one had played the game in Beta for long enough they could get a pretty good jist of what the final product would be, I expect full retail reviews of this game too match closely with the few early reviews we have.cutmaclass1

Stolen from another post:

Gameplay
· Added ability for player to use knife during a reload animation.
· Applied significant tuning adjustments for all weapons and armor.
· Increased sprint duration before tiring by 30%.
· Lowered XP requirements for levels 2 thru 4.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Sabotage from Level 3 to Level 2.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Acquisition from Level 5 to Level 4.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Domination from Level 10 to Level 8.
· Enabled proper level requirements for unlocking headgear, facegear, and uniforms.
· Fixed problem with recoil/firing animation that kept playing for a few seconds after the player fires an automatic gun and uses knife swipe simultaneously.

Interface
· Fixed bug where incapacitated players' nametags would occasionally disappear.
· Repositioned onscreen weapons for improved field of view.
· Armory items (facegear/ headgear/ uniforms) reordered.
· Removed helmets from "Loadout 3" for all factions.

Graphics
· Made significant increase in framerate during player-heavy games.
· Changed light settings for all environments.
· Polished recoil effect for better realism.
· Fixed offset muzzle flash effect.
· Tuned camera to shake more realistically when hit by bullets.
· Adjusted "blur" effect for both normal sights and iron sights.
· Added alternate reload animation.
· New "light scatter" treatment for all skies.
· Repaired various "weapon clipping" issues.
· Enacted several particle fogging adjustments.

Audio
· Switched first-person weapon sounds to true stereo.
· Moved first-person character interactions and weapon switches to true stereo.
· Tweaked sounds effects relating to landing on surfaces.

Technical
· Added error display and queue panel updates to notify player when they've encountered a "join game" failure.
· Made various server stability fixes and tweaks.

Thats why Giantbomb is holding off for review, they posted a vid about this weeks reviews and they said they are holding off on reviewing MAG because its a game that relies on having as many players as possible, and they wouldnt have that untill the game is officially released.

[QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]Reviewing the beta...that's rich. :lol:Chutebox

Stolen from another post:

Gameplay
· Added ability for player to use knife during a reload animation.
· Applied significant tuning adjustments for all weapons and armor.
· Increased sprint duration before tiring by 30%.
· Lowered XP requirements for levels 2 thru 4.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Sabotage from Level 3 to Level 2.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Acquisition from Level 5 to Level 4.
· Lowered level-entry restrictions for Domination from Level 10 to Level 8.
· Enabled proper level requirements for unlocking headgear, facegear, and uniforms.
· Fixed problem with recoil/firing animation that kept playing for a few seconds after the player fires an automatic gun and uses knife swipe simultaneously.

Interface
· Fixed bug where incapacitated players' nametags would occasionally disappear.
· Repositioned onscreen weapons for improved field of view.
· Armory items (facegear/ headgear/ uniforms) reordered.
· Removed helmets from "Loadout 3" for all factions.

Graphics
· Made significant increase in framerate during player-heavy games.
· Changed light settings for all environments.
· Polished recoil effect for better realism.
· Fixed offset muzzle flash effect.
· Tuned camera to shake more realistically when hit by bullets.
· Adjusted "blur" effect for both normal sights and iron sights.
· Added alternate reload animation.
· New "light scatter" treatment for all skies.
· Repaired various "weapon clipping" issues.
· Enacted several particle fogging adjustments.

Audio
· Switched first-person weapon sounds to true stereo.
· Moved first-person character interactions and weapon switches to true stereo.
· Tweaked sounds effects relating to landing on surfaces.

Technical
· Added error display and queue panel updates to notify player when they've encountered a "join game" failure.
· Made various server stability fixes and tweaks.

More like stolen from Kotaku

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="cutmaclass1"] You laugh now but when IGN and GameSpot review the game and it sounds like they are reviewing the Beta (i.e. look for the keywords "BORING" "TRIAL" "NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE PLAYING WELL" or "MAPS TOO BIG") you will change your tune. You MAG apologists are getting on my nerves. Just accept the fact that gameplay won't have changed drastically from Beta to final product. Content will have but when the core mechanic is so easy to be derailed, certainly there's very little reason to believe that the final product will somehow deliver a 9 when the beta was a solid 7.Modern_Unit

Stolen from another post:

More like stolen from Kotaku

Ok, stolen from Katoku.

Better?

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Stolen from another post:

Chutebox

More like stolen from Kotaku

Ok, stolen from Katoku.

Better?

Lol, dude i was joking..:P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

More like stolen from Kotaku

Modern_Unit

Ok, stolen from Katoku.

Better?

Lol, dude i was joking..:P

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ok, stolen from Katoku.

Better?

Chutebox

Lol, dude i was joking..:P

Nah, stealing from someone else is funnier

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

h575309

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

h575309

The only thing good about MAG is the commercial for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgMycct0nyM

I got a good lol out of it.

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

[QUOTE="h575309"]

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

The only thing good about MAG is the commercial for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgMycct0nyM

I got a good lol out of it.

I think I speak for most System Warriors when I say...

Who the *bleep* cares about MAG?

As quoted by sony devs

Reviews can't be written until the game is actually out. I mean, you can't pass pre-release judgment on a game whose major, industry-leading feature (256 players in a single battle) can't be tested until release day.

Since the game just came out 50 mins ago and it takes a while to unlock the features how can sites like thishave already passed judgment :question:

(and how is there an ave user rating already)

The game's been out for almost a whole day now right? Assuming one reviewer spent all day playing mass effect 2 and 1 poor soul, I mean reviewer, spent the day playing MAG, the latter should be able to come up with a reasonable conclusion of how well the game works by tomorrow. I mean it's just online, so either it works or it doesn't work, you don't have to play until any certain end or part of any story to form a conclusion.