Anyone care to explain why Unified GDDR 5 RAM is somehow magic tech now?

Just wondering, I have never seen anybody building gaming machines have an orgasm over RAM before... and this whole "zomg unfied GDDR5 is soooo much faster than DDR3 RAM". I don't know a single person who has ever really cared when they went from DDR 2 to DDR3 ect.

Its like the most minamal and cheap upgrade to a system you can find.

Damage control? no, I don't care, I'm leaning towards a PS4 infact.

But cows, or System Warriors in general.... what do you actually know of this pretty standard tech to make out that this will make games amazing over the next xbox which will likely have gddr3 8gb?

you realize the version differents are small right....

Cow Circle Jerk.

They love anything Sony gives them.

"Thank you, Kaz."

It's got a G in it that must mean its awesome.clyde46

Just wondering, I have never seen anybody building gaming machines have an orgasm over RAM before... and this whole "zomg unfied GDDR5 is soooo much faster than DDR3 RAM". I don't know a single person who has ever really cared when they went from DDR 2 to DDR3 ect.

Its like the most minamal and cheap upgrade to a system you can find.

Damage control? no, I don't care, I'm leaning towards a PS4 infact.

But cows, or System Warriors in general.... what do you actually know of this pretty standard tech to make out that this will make games amazing over the next xbox which will likely have gddr3 8gb?

you realize the version differents are small right....

MBirdy88

Because not a lot of them know what it actually is and they think because it was speculated as 4GB and now it's suddenly 8GB that it means far better graphics. They think somehow it pulls magical power out of somewhere and I can see it now, when it releases alongside the 720 and the 720 has 4GB then the 8GB of RAM will become then new cell for cows to gloat about. 

They will say it has some untapped power and that it's far greater than the 720 yet multiplats will all look the same again. 

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

Just wondering, I have never seen anybody building gaming machines have an orgasm over RAM before... and this whole "zomg unfied GDDR5 is soooo much faster than DDR3 RAM". I don't know a single person who has ever really cared when they went from DDR 2 to DDR3 ect.

Its like the most minamal and cheap upgrade to a system you can find.

Damage control? no, I don't care, I'm leaning towards a PS4 infact.

But cows, or System Warriors in general.... what do you actually know of this pretty standard tech to make out that this will make games amazing over the next xbox which will likely have gddr3 8gb?

you realize the version differents are small right....

nextgenjoke

The reason they likely have it is because of all the new background features they're adding. You will need more memory to stream crap in the background while gaming. 

Because not a lot of them know what it actually is and they think because it was speculated as 4GB and now it's suddenly 8GB that it means far better graphics. They think somehow it pulls magical power out of somewhere and I can see it now, when it releases alongside the 720 and the 720 has 4GB then the 8GB of RAM will become then new cell for cows to gloat about. 

They will say it has some untapped power and that it's far greater than the 720 yet multiplats will all look the same again. 

seanmcloughlin

I thought the general reaction to it was strictly thank god consoles with some ram, because generally consoles were pretty lame in that area? I personally don't really know much about the tech side, but I was under the impression that the positive reaction had more to do with consoles "lack" of ram over the years, and how this gen it's suppose to be a significant improvement. jg4xchamp

That was it at first, but now we find out the devs didn't know about it and they all assumed 4GB RAM and the demos were all using 4GB and they suddenly think the extra 4 will make the games look significantly better. 

Again most of them don't really know what it means for the system. none of us really know until we get our hands on one

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because not a lot of them know what it actually is and they think because it was speculated as 4GB and now it's suddenly 8GB that it means far better graphics. They think somehow it pulls magical power out of somewhere and I can see it now, when it releases alongside the 720 and the 720 has 4GB then the 8GB of RAM will become then new cell for cows to gloat about. 

They will say it has some untapped power and that it's far greater than the 720 yet multiplats will all look the same again. 

nextgenjoke

Did I say it wasn't? 

lol ps3 and 360 are gonna be similar as hell this generation the software is really what seperates them.

Just wondering, I have never seen anybody building gaming machines have an orgasm over RAM before... and this whole "zomg unfied GDDR5 is soooo much faster than DDR3 RAM". I don't know a single person who has ever really cared when they went from DDR 2 to DDR3 ect.MBirdy88

The original xbox could of got nothing but crappy pc ports.

The software offering exclusives is what made it relevant.

You really colling 256MB RAM/256MB VRAM to 8GB a cheap upgrade? :p i think thats more shocking number then GDRR5, which is faster so people also point outShadowriverUB

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I thought the general reaction to it was strictly thank god consoles with some ram, because generally consoles were pretty lame in that area? I personally don't really know much about the tech side, but I was under the impression that the positive reaction had more to do with consoles "lack" of ram over the years, and how this gen it's suppose to be a significant improvement. seanmcloughlin

That was it at first, but now we find out the devs didn't know about it and they all assumed 4GB RAM and the demos were all using 4GB and they suddenly think the extra 4 will make the games look significantly better. 

Again most of them don't really know what it means for the system. none of us really know until we get our hands on one

Microsoft have lost their mind thinking exclusives arent important.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

Just wondering, I have never seen anybody building gaming machines have an orgasm over RAM before... and this whole "zomg unfied GDDR5 is soooo much faster than DDR3 RAM". I don't know a single person who has ever really cared when they went from DDR 2 to DDR3 ect.AmazonTreeBoa

Microsoft have lost their mind thinking exclusives arent important.

nextgenjoke

It helps improve speed and multitasking, for the most part....that's what its good for. so you might be able to do multiple things in or out of the game than you otherwise would be able to. verbalfilth

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I thought the general reaction to it was strictly thank god consoles with some ram, because generally consoles were pretty lame in that area? I personally don't really know much about the tech side, but I was under the impression that the positive reaction had more to do with consoles "lack" of ram over the years, and how this gen it's suppose to be a significant improvement. jg4xchamp

That was it at first, but now we find out the devs didn't know about it and they all assumed 4GB RAM and the demos were all using 4GB and they suddenly think the extra 4 will make the games look significantly better. 

Again most of them don't really know what it means for the system. none of us really know until we get our hands on one

More textures, I think.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I thought the general reaction to it was strictly thank god consoles with some ram, because generally consoles were pretty lame in that area? I personally don't really know much about the tech side, but I was under the impression that the positive reaction had more to do with consoles "lack" of ram over the years, and how this gen it's suppose to be a significant improvement. jg4xchamp

That was it at first, but now we find out the devs didn't know about it and they all assumed 4GB RAM and the demos were all using 4GB and they suddenly think the extra 4 will make the games look significantly better. 

Again most of them don't really know what it means for the system. none of us really know until we get our hands on one

Game design? pretty much nothing that I'm aware of. It just influences visuals and the processes the system can do, opening it up a lot more. That's why it's not something to be uber excited about, all likelhood games will be the same set piece sight seeing adventures as always, just better looking

Because it's better than what most hermits have in their rigs. Sushiglutton

If all 720 has is multiplats and no exclusives and ps4 has exclusives and all the same multiplats.

They would lose out to ps4.

Who would be dumb enough to buy 720 then?

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

That was it at first, but now we find out the devs didn't know about it and they all assumed 4GB RAM and the demos were all using 4GB and they suddenly think the extra 4 will make the games look significantly better. 

Again most of them don't really know what it means for the system. none of us really know until we get our hands on one

Master_ShakeXXX

More textures, I think.

higher res textures, but it doesn't really change much. Everything just gets shinier and you will finally have high res textures. 

For a console, that's *a lot* of (fast) memory.

Not even all PCs have 8 gigs RAM and 8 gigs of fast RAM in a console will be very good for a lot of things.

Consoles always had the problem of a shortage of RAM, but the PS4 seems to not have that problem.

Because it's better than what most hermits have in their rigs. Sushiglutton

This is unified RAM though so it works differently than what a regular PCs setup is. I have 8GB RAM and I barely use all of it for games. But it helps with video editing and other processes, just like it will helo the PS4 with all it's new features. Downloading games while playing a game would need RAM so this helps a great deal

For a console, that's *a lot* of (fast) memory.

Not even all PCs have 8 gigs RAM and 8 gigs of fast RAM in a console will be very good for a lot of things.

Consoles always had the problem of a shortage of RAM, but the PS4 seems to not have that problem.

nameless12345

If GDDR5 is standard tech why can't I buy it?

GDDR5 Ram is the new "teh cell". Something almost worshipped by Sony fanboys who not entirely understand what it actually means.

I like the unified RAM concept myself if there is enough to go around and can be allocated to CPU or GPU as required. I think 8Gb VRAM is definitely better than the 8Gb of system RAM + 1Gb VRAM in my current PC.

Edit:

Over half of my 8Gb system RAM go unused most of the time while my 1Gb video card is already being handicapped by newer games.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]You really colling 256MB RAM/256MB VRAM to 8GB a cheap upgrade? :p i think thats more shocking number then GDRR5, which is faster so people also point outMBirdy88

Isn't the CPU said to be quiet poor? If so who cares how much RAM, and how fast it is? Developers will have to struggle with the CPU to get the most out of the abundance of speedy RAM.

Nice that it's there though! Lets hope MS follows.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]You really colling 256MB RAM/256MB VRAM to 8GB a cheap upgrade? :p i think thats more shocking number then GDRR5, which is faster so people also point outShadowriverUB

Isn't the CPU said to be quiet poor? If so who cares how much RAM, and how fast it is? Developers will have to struggle with the CPU to get the most out of the abundance of speedy RAM.

 

Nice that it's there though! Lets hope MS follows.

-Snooze-

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

For a console, that's *a lot* of (fast) memory.

Not even all PCs have 8 gigs RAM and 8 gigs of fast RAM in a console will be very good for a lot of things.

Consoles always had the problem of a shortage of RAM, but the PS4 seems to not have that problem.

MBirdy88

Well, I think the APU-like hardware design has a lot of potential when used in a console.

One might say that the CPU clocks are a little on the low side, but the future of (console) game development seems to be heavy multi-threading and offloading of various tasks to the GPU (i.e. GPGPU support).

The costs associated are a good call but we can't yet know how high they are untill they aren't revealed.

But as far as "future-proofing" is concerned, the system seems to pack a punch.

Of course PC hardware will surpass it eventually (or already did) but let's get real here - most buy a console for a number of years, opposed to a PC, which usually gets frequently upgraded.

I don't doubt there will be impressive software developed for the system tho.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Isn't the CPU said to be quiet poor? If so who cares how much RAM, and how fast it is? Developers will have to struggle with the CPU to get the most out of the abundance of speedy RAM.

 

Nice that it's there though! Lets hope MS follows.

ShadowriverUB

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Isn't the CPU said to be quiet poor? If so who cares how much RAM, and how fast it is? Developers will have to struggle with the CPU to get the most out of the abundance of speedy RAM.

 

Nice that it's there though! Lets hope MS follows.

ShadowriverUB

8 Cores @1.6Ghz is it not? Regardless, isn't it also based of subpar mobile CPU's?

GDDR5 Ram is the new "teh cell". Something almost worshipped by Sony fanboys who not entirely understand what it actually means.

Ben-Buja

Ben we always think alike :P