Anyone else think the 3DS is going to crush the VITA this fall?

[QUOTE="110million"]Its launch already looks much better than the 3DS'AvatarMan96

They have had quite a bit more development time, at the very least wipeout and uncharted should make it, and that alone would be a much better launch.

The Vita will destroy the 3DS imoSnyper-007

The Vita will destroy the 3DS imoSnyper-007

I think we're just talking sales.

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]The Vita will destroy the 3DS imoturtlethetaffer

I think we're just talking sales.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]The Vita will destroy the 3DS imoSnyper-007

I think we're just talking sales.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]The Vita will destroy the 3DS imoSnyper-007

I think we're just talking sales.

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

Depends... History would tell us that ninty handhelds always wins. But IF the Vita could get a buzz going and come through with quality games of its own... could be a force to reckoned with.

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I think we're just talking sales.

AvatarMan96

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]3DS just gives you brain cancer by the sound of it.AvatarMan96

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I think we're just talking sales.

turtlethetaffer

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I think we're just talking sales.

turtlethetaffer

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"] The Vita will outsell the 3DS, because by November people will realize that the 3DS is just a DS with a gimmicky 3D screenSnyper-007

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"] The Vita will outsell the 3DS, because by November people will realize that the 3DS is just a DS with a gimmicky 3D screenSnyper-007

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

And the same goes for 3DS. When compared to DS. And maybe you should post before making ignorant staements?

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

In terms of sales - I think having Mario Kart 3D and Super Mario 3D out during the holidays will give the 3DS a huge boost in sales - If the Vita has anything as big, it'll do well. Though, I definitely don't think Uncharted: Golden Abyss would be as big as Super Mario 3D or Mario Kart 3D.

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Isn't the vita a more powerful PSP with 2 analogue sticks?

turtlethetaffer

And the same goes for 3DS. When compared to DS. And maybe you should post before making ignorant staements?

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

Snyper-007

I dont see the 3DS lighting any sales fires right now, even with the Zelda rehash. I dont think Vita is going to be crushed.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"] Vita adds alot more than power and analog sticks. You should think before posting ignorant statements Snyper-007

And the same goes for 3DS. When compared to DS. And maybe you should post before making ignorant staements?

What does that have to do with anything? We were talking about how each system made improvements over its predeccesor, try not to change the topic.

If you are talking about sales, I guess so, considering what happened last gen.

But I personally liked the PSP more, and since the PSV seems to be more of that + few more mechanics like :

1. Bigger, HIGH res 32m colour Oled screen - great

2. touchpad and TS and 6axis motion sensing - meh

3. dual proper analog - great

4. 3g optional - cool

5. more powerful hardware + game card format - good

6. priced the same as psp - great

Mainly It boils down to what kind of games you prefer...I prefer to play console like games on the go while also playing puzzle type and other quirky games (like 'N') from time to time, so the PSV seems a better buy to me. Plus I don't really care about 3d.

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

I don't think anybody really can disagree with this. The casual market for instance does not care about graphics that has been proven and the 3d gimmick sells big.

Vita has one good game at launch 3ds in the fall will have its biggest first party games with it and more to come.

Vita will share the same fate as the psp did I fear

110million

Its launch already looks much better than the 3DS'

There is so far no indication assume it will share the same fate as the PSP, this sounds so ignorant. It added the touch surfaces, gyro, cameras, etc, it uses cartridges, it will get get free download codes of PS3 titles. The PSP has become a large success in Japan in the last couple years, it is far more likely 3rd party supprot for the Vita will destroy what the PSP had and be much closer to the 3DS.

How can it be ignorant when I have yet to see much interest there

http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vitaSnyper-007

what were you hoping to accomplish with this?

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vitaturtlethetaffer

what were you hoping to accomplish with this?

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vitaSnyper-007

what were you hoping to accomplish with this?

To who? nobody asked about it or referenced it.

Nah. Especially not when the psp is already crushing the 3dsTheMoreYouOwn

you mean in japan? not even there...3ds has sold more units in japan this year than the psp...look at the YTD numbers..XD

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

what were you hoping to accomplish with this?

turtlethetaffer

To who? nobody asked about it or referenced it.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"] prove that the Vita has a better launch lineupSnyper-007

To who? nobody asked about it or referenced it.

Probably should have quoted him then...

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

AvatarMan96

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/ps-vita/PS_Vita_Games_List

[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"][QUOTE="Snyper-007"] Uncharted:Golden Abyss, LittleBigPlanet,Gravity Daze,Wipeout,etc.real_nimrod

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/ps-vita/PS_Vita_Games_List

Good job on finding proof, but I'm still for 3DS :evil:

[QUOTE="MarioFan264"] I wasn't referring to the PSP itself, but the PS Vita.110million

The 3DS still has few titles months after launch, so I believe its too soon to critisize the Vita months BEFORE launch.

Well, I'm not necessarily criticizing it. I'm just saying that right now there is nothing to make me want to buy it. I'm not an Nintendo-only person, but I do buy their consoles at default since I always know that they will release games that I will play. There is no guarantee with the others. Well, perhaps there are games I would play, but do they justify spending that much money on a console for? No.

The 3DS went far and above in proving itself with having an incredible line up of first party titles coming out (the majority of which aren't ports). I couldn't possibly care any less about the power or gimmicks of a console. Well, obviously, I wanted the 3DS to be pretty powerful, but it does not influence me getting one either way. It's just that the power of a console's hardware means nothing when there's nothing I want to play on it.

Perhaps I should stay off of this board. It's just so dumb: "My console has 3D!! It's so much better!!" and "Your console is just another DS with a gimmick, mine has PS3 level graphics". IT DOESN'T MATTER! Get the console that has the games you want and leave the other be! Both sides are underestimating the other side's system. They will work just great for the people that want them. Or at least lets wait until we get further into both system's lives until we start making such ridiculous statements.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

Snyper-007

Are those confirmed to come out at launch or are those just titles in the works?

This could very well be the same situation as the 3DS where we saw a bunch of games at E3 and only had a few come out at launch.

Also, I don't believe any of those games still have as much "platformer seller" ability as Mario Kart or Super Mario 3D.

[QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="MarioFan264"] The board's name is system wars, whadda you expect? And as for Ninty's always making games you know you're gonna play, well what can I say, glad it works out that way for you.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

'Crush' isn't really the right word.

The 3DS will have more titles available and a more solid line up by then, if all goes planned and no games get delayed. It'll have created more 'value' than the Vita, I doubt the Vita will have anything that's comparable to Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D, MGS3D, etc on launch. Once a year has pasted on the Vita's launch, we can compare the libraries more closely.

MarioFan264

Are those confirmed to come out at launch or are those just titles in the works?

This could very well be the same situation as the 3DS where we saw a bunch of games at E3 and only had a few come out at launch.

Also, I don't believe any of those games still have as much "platformer seller" ability as Mario Kart or Super Mario 3D.

Launch titles confirmed, see link a few posts above. And what do you mean by platform seller ability?

[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"]

[QUOTE="real_nimrod"]

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/ps-vita/PS_Vita_Games_List

Snyper-007

Good job on finding proof, but I'm still for 3DS :evil:

dont forget the virtual console on 3ds...

Fajita doesnt have one ...the last gen psp was sony's first handheld.... it has no handheld libarary like nintendo does.

dont forget the virtual console on 3ds...

Fajita doesnt have one ...the last gen psp was sony's first handheld.... it has no handheld libarary like nintendo does.

KBFloYd

Not sure where you're going with that. The Vita doesn't need one. They don't need to recharge you for games you've already bought because they've been up on the store to purchase on your PSP for quite some time.

That's an advantage, if you ask me.

dont forget the virtual console on 3ds...

Fajita doesnt have one ...the last gen psp was sony's first handheld.... it has no handheld libarary like nintendo does.

KBFloYd

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

dont forget the virtual console on 3ds...

Fajita doesnt have one ...the last gen psp was sony's first handheld.... it has no handheld libarary like nintendo does.

MarioFan264

Not sure where you're going with that. The Vita doesn't need one. They don't need to recharge you for games you've already bought because they've been up on the store to purchase on your PSP for quite some time.

That's an advantage, if you ask me.

Then why should I get PSP games again on Vita?

vita has no games so yes

dontshackzmii

Launch titles confirmed, see link a few posts above. And what do you mean by platform seller ability?

Another-World

Meaning I don't think any of those titles will be enough to move hardware as much as a Mario title.

[QUOTE="Another-World"]

Launch titles confirmed, see link a few posts above. And what do you mean by platform seller ability?

Haziqonfire

Meaning I don't think any of those titles will be enough to move hardware as much as a Mario title.

[QUOTE="Another-World"]

Launch titles confirmed, see link a few posts above. And what do you mean by platform seller ability?

Haziqonfire

Meaning I don't think any of those titles will be enough to move hardware as much as a Mario title.

tbf this is probably true...though the vita launch line up is a lot better looking than the 3ds' and the listed four are legtimate system sellers in their own right (even if they lack the brand power of Nintendo's main mascot...)

Yeah that's probably correct. No, actually it's 100% positive. Still I don't see the logic of judging success according to sales. I guess there isn't any other yardstick.

Another-World

Software is going to be based on peoples personal preferences. I have no interest in anything on the Vita beyond Gravity Daze - and even that is not enough for me to pick up the platform.I have far more interest in 3DS titles than Vita. The Vita so far has been the same as the PSP for me. Generally, I always find one title I really want to play on a platform; but like the PSP, The Vita doesn't really have anything that makes me really want to pick one up. Perhaps in the future, it will.

The only way to judge a platform based off of which one is better is through critical reception. In terms of that, I'm sure both the Vita and the 3DS will be great handhelds in the long run. In terms of judging which platform is more successful than the other, we really only have two ways of looking at it objectively. One is sales and the other is critical reception of games, along with the quantity. It's not that the 3DS has nothing else going for it ... it's that there really isn't any other way of objectively looking at how successful a platform is beyond those two things. Sales are reflective of a happy consumer willing to pay money for the company's product and games that receive positive critical reception are an indication of the quality of titles.

The 3DS will have a head start in both considering it'll have been out for almost a year, with a years worth of games out and a years worth of sales. It'll also have a strong marketing push and a strong holiday season, considering it's the first it'll partake in.

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

dont forget the virtual console on 3ds...

Fajita doesnt have one ...the last gen psp was sony's first handheld.... it has no handheld libarary like nintendo does.

MarioFan264

Not sure where you're going with that. The Vita doesn't need one. They don't need to recharge you for games you've already bought because they've been up on the store to purchase on your PSP for quite some time.

That's an advantage, if you ask me.

you honestly own nintendos catalog of gameboy,gameboy color games? i dont ...and im sure many others dont either...its a huge library to choose from. which is an advantage for nintendo not disadvantage.

also playing them on 3ds is the definitive way to play them.. they look wonderful and bright compared to the gameboy sp...and they have a savestate option ..lets not even try to play them on the original gameboy and gameboy color systems lol...unless the sun lives in your house.

[QUOTE="Another-World"]

Yeah that's probably correct. No, actually it's 100% positive. Still I don't see the logic of judging success according to sales. I guess there isn't any other yardstick.

Haziqonfire

Software is going to be based on peoples personal preferences. I have no interest in anything on the Vita beyond Gravity Daze - and even that is not enough for me to pick up the platform.I have far more interest in 3DS titles than Vita. The Vita so far has been the same as the PSP for me. Generally, I always find one title I really want to play on a platform; but like the PSP, The Vita doesn't really have anything that makes me really want to pick one up. Perhaps in the future, it will.

The only way to judge a platform based off of which one is better is through critical reception. In terms of that, I'm sure both the Vita and the 3DS will be great handhelds in the long run. In terms of judging which platform is more successful than the other, we really only have two ways of looking at it objectively. One is sales and the other is critical reception of games, along with the quantity. It's not that the 3DS has nothing else going for it ... it's that there really isn't any other way of objectively looking at how successful a platform is beyond those two things. Sales are reflective of a happy consumer willing to pay money for the company's product and games that receive positive critical reception are an indication of the quality of titles.

The 3DS will have a head start in both considering it'll have been out for almost a year, with a years worth of games out and a years worth of sales. It'll also have a strong marketing push and a strong holiday season, considering it's the first it'll partake in.

I hope not, the 3DS is absolutely mediocre... "buh buh the nintendo" ... dont care. its still a craptastic upgrade.Birdy09