anyone thinks rage will take over the graphics king throne from crysis?

By then Crysis 2 will be out.

ehhhh... no.

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Not.Even.Close.

I don't think anything is going to beat Crysis this gen.

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Crytek wants 8 million in sales. For some reason that is this guys goal: to say he got Halo 3 level sales. I think he has realized that with high system requirements that is much harder. I think Yerli has lost his way. I doubt Crysis 2 will even look as impressive as Crysis turned all the way up with AA and AF maxed out.

skrat_01

Either way, unless they drastically improve the art-style and attention to detail in Crysis 2 its going to be a boring repeat of the first one anyway. technically amazing and yet one of the most boring games to look at.Birdy09

Nope. PO or Doom 4 will, which ever comes first. This game is being made for consoles in mind so it's not going to push the graphics bar.

RAGE used to look much better when it was announced. Now It doesn't look impressive due to the huge visual downgrade. I hope those new screens with cartoony graphics aren't from the PC version.

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cept for maybe Crysis 2:)

sSubZerOo

CryEngine 3 by its very design always uses the PC version as the lead platform, the console versions are generated from the PC version.

Nope. PO or Doom 4 will, which ever comes first. This game is being made for consoles in mind so it's not going to push the graphics bar.

Espada12

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

cept for maybe Crysis 2:)

AnnoyedDragon

CryEngine 3 by its very design always uses the PC version as the lead platform, the console versions are generated from the PC version.

CE3 is made for the consoles. The PC version of Crysis 2 would still use CryEngine 2. It's superior in every way

Couth_

Where are you people getting this from? Well the smallest glimpse at the engine description will tell you that CryEngine 3 is a cross platform optimized version of CryEngine 2, it is not built specifically for consoles and CryEngine 2 is not superior to it. CryEngine 3 is used by building the PC version as the primary platform while the console versions are generated along side of it, how can it be a separate version when all three versions are built on the same engine using the PC version?

Haven't people been paying attention to any of Crytek's interviews?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] No it won't due to the fact its being made for PS3 and Xbox360 as primary platforms..Couth_

CryEngine 3 by its very design always uses the PC version as the lead platform, the console versions are generated from the PC version.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

cept for maybe Crysis 2:)

AnnoyedDragon

CryEngine 3 by its very design always uses the PC version as the lead platform, the console versions are generated from the PC version.

No console limited game can surpass Crysis, it's a technical impossibility.

People who think they can live in a fantasy world were 512mb vram+ worth of resources can fit into 256mb and 48 shader units can perform like 240+.

AnnoyedDragon

absolutely false.

The game may be extremely scalable for all you know, afterall, Id is a great dev when it comes to graphics technology.

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No console limited game can surpass Crysis, it's a technical impossibility.

People who think they can live in a fantasy world were 512mb vram+ worth of resources can fit into 256mb and 48 shader units can perform like 240+.

swazidoughman

absolutely false.

The game may be extremely scalable for all you know, afterall, Id is a great dev when it comes to graphics technology.

The game is being made for consoles first. The only thing PC will have is AA and higher res, he said it himself, the real graphics contender is doom 4 which he said will showcase the power of his new engine.

i know John Carmack is a programming god, but man, all his games recently have looked like crap, litterally. He could do so much better if had better art direction

absolutely false.

The game may be extremely scalable for all you know, afterall, Id is a great dev when it comes to graphics technology.

swazidoughman

It doesn't matter how high it is scaled, at its core it is console limited.

Crysis did what it did because it was designed from the ground up with high end PC hardware in mind. You cannot simply take a console optimized game, pile on higher graphical settings and expect to get a Crysis out of it.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

absolutely false.

The game may be extremely scalable for all you know, afterall, Id is a great dev when it comes to graphics technology.

AnnoyedDragon

It doesn't matter how high it is scaled, at its core it is console limited.

Crysis did what it did because it was designed from the ground up with high end PC hardware in mind. You cannot simply take a console optimized game, pile on higher graphical settings and expect to get a Crysis out of it.

Judgin by recent screens it doesn't look anywhere near Crysis in graphical quality

Judgin by recent screens it doesn't look anywhere near Crysis in graphical quality

AdrianWerner

What about in scale?

Something that seems to be overlooked often.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Judgin by recent screens it doesn't look anywhere near Crysis in graphical quality

swazidoughman

What about in scale?

Something that seems to be overlooked often.

Plus it is a little sad...RAGE will be out 6 years after Doom 3 and yet it will have more primitive lighting solution than Doom3 did

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Judgin by recent screens it doesn't look anywhere near Crysis in graphical quality

swazidoughman

What about in scale?

Something that seems to be overlooked often.

A multiplatform being developed with consoles as the lead platform will never surpass a PC exclusive built from the ground for the pc.

Gamerz1569

I think it will be about equal. Crysis has a lot of vegetation and Rage is more like Fallout 3 so it's hard to compare the 2. The Game Informer screens looked really good though.

Will Rage look better than Crysis 2 on consoles. That's the real question.

Vegetation is so much harder to reproduce accurately than rocks, sand, water, wood, metal, etc. That Crysis can make trees look as good as now is highly underrated. Rocks can be made beautiful just by painting huge textures onto them; you can't to that for grass and leaves, which is why Rage might look as good as Crysis, but will be inferior from a technical standpoint.

lol fear 2 looks better than the original fearvideogamesdead8

That FEAR 1 came out in 2005 and was designed for GF 7 series generation hardware, the same in consoles minus the fixed hardware advantages, doesn't bother you when using it as a counter argument?

The point was referring to right now, games built for modern PC hardware greatly surpass the capabilities of consoles.

I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

coolguy735

I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

coolguy735

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I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

subrosian

I know what you're getting at with the low-res screens thing but that is all that is available now (to my knowledge at least). But compare these two randomly picked screens and please tell me which looks better:

UNCHARTED 2:

CRYSIS:

Both were taken from IGN.COM so I highly doubt either is going to be graphically downsided for the sake of bias as this isa highly rated website. Uncharted 2 just has the look of a newer game, and it just surpasses Crysis right now in my opinion. As I said before the screens could be total bull but what ever they are they look extremely good.

lol fear 2 looks better than the original fearvideogamesdead8

Apart from the fact FEAR 2 didn't have full dynamic lightning and shadows removing alot of the atmosphere, which made it look worse.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="coolguy735"]

I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

coolguy735

I know what you're getting at with the low-res screens thing but that is all that is available now (to my knowledge at least). But compare these two randomly picked screens and please tell me which looks better:

UNCHARTED 2:

CRYSIS:

Both were taken from IGN.COM so I highly doubt either is going to be graphically downsided for the sake of bias as this isa highly rated website. Uncharted 2 just has the look of a newer game, and it just surpasses Crysis right now in my opinion. As I said before the screens could be total bull but what ever they are they look extremely good.

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[QUOTE="subrosian"] Uncharted isn't in the same *ballpark* as Crysis :| Comparing low-res screenshots and online videos doesn't do either game justice, but Uncharted 2 is facing unfair competition on the Crysis front.Wardemon50

I know what you're getting at with the low-res screens thing but that is all that is available now (to my knowledge at least). But compare these two randomly picked screens and please tell me which looks better:

UNCHARTED 2:

CRYSIS:

Both were taken from IGN.COM so I highly doubt either is going to be graphically downsided for the sake of bias as this isa highly rated website. Uncharted 2 just has the look of a newer game, and it just surpasses Crysis right now in my opinion. As I said before the screens could be total bull but what ever they are they look extremely good.

If you think I'm biased, by all means post some screens of your own.

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[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

I know what you're getting at with the low-res screens thing but that is all that is available now (to my knowledge at least). But compare these two randomly picked screens and please tell me which looks better:

UNCHARTED 2:

CRYSIS:

Both were taken from IGN.COM so I highly doubt either is going to be graphically downsided for the sake of bias as this isa highly rated website. Uncharted 2 just has the look of a newer game, and it just surpasses Crysis right now in my opinion. As I said before the screens could be total bull but what ever they are they look extremely good.

coolguy735

If you think I'm biased, by all means post some screens of your own.

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coolguy735

Other than just not knowing what is being pushed in Crysis; you would think common sense would prevail and they would look at the hardware capability difference.

Less than half the vram? A fraction of the shader power? Apparently insignificant in console users judging their system of choice capabilities.

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

I may be dellusional in your eyes but to me Uncharted 2 just looks cleaner and more crisp. And don't take me for a ps3 fanboy, I am a fanboy to no console, I just go by what I see.

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

gamecubepad

I may be dellusional in your eyes but to me Uncharted 2 just looks cleaner and more crisp. And don't take me for a ps3 fanboy, I am a fanboy to no console, I just go by what I see.

coolguy735

A rage vs crysis thread? I thought it would be fun to join in but I guess inevitably it just has to come down to uncharted 2 vs crysis. :roll:

Did someone say Crysis screens?

Still not convinced? I'll give some professionally made ones if you don't like mine: