anyone thinks rage will take over the graphics king throne from crysis?

A rage vs crysis thread? I thought it would be fun to join in but I guess inevitably it just has to come down to uncharted 2 vs crysis. :roll:

PSdual_wielder

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

mitu123

Not to mention the resolutions of those 2 pics are different too.

I may be dellusional in your eyes but to me Uncharted 2 just looks cleaner and more crisp. And don't take me for a ps3 fanboy, I am a fanboy to no console, I just go by what I see.

coolguy735

Uncharted 2 has a cartoonish art style, which some might find better than photorealism. Take a look at my screenshots to see the difference. I personally like photorealism better, but you can have an opinion. Saying that Uncharted 2 is more technically advanced is completely false though. Like I said, Uncharted 2 would not be able to do half of Crysis's vegetation because it's 10 times harder than an urban environment.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

PSdual_wielder

Not to mention the resolutions of those 2 pics are different too.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] A multiplayer beta screenshot of Uncharted 2? Really? Though Crysis looks better anyways.

mitu123

Not to mention the resolutions of those 2 pics are different too.

Actually, the only "downgrade" I see is a lower resolution. Other than that, it looks just like the single player version.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

mitu123

Hard to find Uncharted 2 in-game shots. Most are cinematic bullshots.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

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AnnoyedDragon

Other than just not knowing what is being pushed in Crysis; you would think common sense would prevail and they would look at the hardware capability difference.

Less than half the vram? A fraction of the shader power? Apparently insignificant in console users judging their system of choice capabilities.

Of course, crysis will have the better technical capabilities. And of course the most of you will prefer Crysis's graphics. But to me the self proclaimed proper screenshots of Uncharted 2 look better. However, I do believe those to be bull. And crysis has been around for a good year and a half so it losing it's title is to be expected. Though the multiplayer beta screens of Uncharted 2 look very rough around the edges. You seem to be a man who knows what he's talking about, will Crysis 2 look better than Crysis?

I may be dellusional in your eyes but to me Uncharted 2 just looks cleaner and more crisp.coolguy735

No console game is cleaner and crisper than a PC game.

You have half the Vram than the typical gaming PC and are running at a much smaller resolution, not forgetting once on screen it is being stretched several fold its original size. Even if you just take a console game and transfer it to PC it is still a sharper and cleaner image.

Added that you are making these judgements on downscaled images in a game with a zoomed out camera; I'm not sure what you mean by cleaner and crisper.

Yeah, it's hard to find non bullshots of Uncharted 2, we'll have to wait until October for direct feeds. And Hanass, I believe the single player looks better than the multiplayer, final build anyways.

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[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

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coolguy735

Other than just not knowing what is being pushed in Crysis; you would think common sense would prevail and they would look at the hardware capability difference.

Less than half the vram? A fraction of the shader power? Apparently insignificant in console users judging their system of choice capabilities.

Of course, crysis will have the better technical capabilities. And of course the most of you will prefer Crysis's graphics. But to me the self proclaimed proper screenshots of Uncharted 2 look better. However, I do believe those to be bull. And crysis has been around for a good year and a half so it losing it's title is to be expected. Though the multiplayer beta screens of Uncharted 2 look very rough around the edges. You seem to be a man who knows what he's talking about, will Crysis 2 look better than Crysis?

Pc version? My guess is they will roughly the same because CE3 is designed to downscale better. Nothing new is added to the table other than more efficient lighting.

Console version? No way. If you look at the comparison (go to youtube) you will clearly notice that CE3 on consoles is the equivalent of Crysis on Medium with textures on Low.

Wait are boarderlands and rage different games?

Maybe the PC version as long as consoles don't hold it back, but Project Offset looks to take that throne, whenever it's released.

mitu123

I agree with this statement.

And i think Rage will look better in certain ways, but worse in others.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Uncharted 2 looks good but it doesn't come close to Crysis.

Uncharted 2

Crysis

Sorry. Uncharted 2 doesn't even look better than KZ2, imo.

gamecubepad

Hard to find Uncharted 2 in-game shots. Most are cinematic bullshots.

Uncharted 2

*snip*

Crysis

*snip*

Are those your screens? Because the Crysis pics are terribly compressed/artifacted.

[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

I may be dellusional in your eyes but to me Uncharted 2 just looks cleaner and more crisp.AnnoyedDragon

No console game is cleaner and crisper than a PC game.

You have half the Vram than the typical gaming PC and are running at a much smaller resolution, not forgetting once on screen it is being stretched several fold its original size. Even if you just take a console game and transfer it to PC it is still a sharper and cleaner image.

Added that you are making these judgements on downscaled images in a game with a zoomed out camera; I'm not sure what you mean by cleaner and crisper.

I have realised my mistakes. Looking at the above proper in game screenshots of uncharted 2, I do see that Crysis looks alot better. I may prefer Uncharted 2's art direction but Crysis is certainly alot technically better.

will Crysis 2 look better than Crysis?

coolguy735

It depends on what platform you are talking about.

On consoles no, not only couldn't their hardware do it but we have already seen CryEngine 3 footage running on consoles; which are far behind Crysis 1.

PC can potentially but that depends on if Crytek still wants to push the platform.

Are those your screens? Because the Crysis pics are terribly compressed/artifacted.

Hanass

No, I just found them on a forum. I agree that the pics are poorly compressed.

I love how my screens are conveniently ignored :DWardemon50

Because mine look better :P

I really dont think Rage will have the better graphics then Crysis, Crysis is God Tier in terms of graphics. If I remember right, Crytek are using 2 dev teams. The one based in the UK are making the console versions but the original PC team in Germany are working on the PC version.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="coolguy735"]

I hate to sound like a fanboy but to be honest if you compare screens from Uncharted 2 with screens from Crysis, Uncharted 2 surpasses Crysis graphics-wise.

Of course, the screens from Uncharted 2 might be complete bull BUT from the way they're looking, this will be the best looking game to date. Although I will admit it is hard to compare some games due to clashing styles, Uncharted 2 is looking beautiful and noone can deny this.

coolguy735

I know what you're getting at with the low-res screens thing but that is all that is available now (to my knowledge at least). But compare these two randomly picked screens and please tell me which looks better:

UNCHARTED 2:

CRYSIS:

Both were taken from IGN.COM so I highly doubt either is going to be graphically downsided for the sake of bias as this isa highly rated website. Uncharted 2 just has the look of a newer game, and it just surpasses Crysis right now in my opinion. As I said before the screens could be total bull but what ever they are they look extremely good.

hahahahahaha no.

call me the decade any ps3 game looks as good as this INGAME. (bhahaha crysis ingame looks better than bullshots uncharted 2 :lol: )

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[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]I love how my screens are conveniently ignored :DHanass

Because mine look better :P

This thread is getting off-topic! This was a Rage vs Crysis and magically becomes a UC2 vs Crysis.

This thread is getting off-topic! This was a Rage vs Crysis and magically becomes a UC2 vs Crysis.

Gamerz1569

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]I love how my screens are conveniently ignored :DGTR2addict

Because mine look better :P

Huh? There's nothing at page 5... If you're talking about page 7, I think they have way too much HDR/Bloom, but that's just me.

The vegetation is awesome though. What's the command that makes the green so sharp?

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="Hanass"]

Because mine look better :P

Hanass

Huh? There's nothing at page 5... If you're talking about page 7, I think they have way too much HDR/Bloom, but that's just me.

The vegetation is awesome though. What's the command that makes the green so sharp?

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"] look over at page 5 and i dare you say that :PGTR2addict

Huh? There's nothing at page 5... If you're talking about page 7, I think they have way too much HDR/Bloom, but that's just me.

The vegetation is awesome though. What's the command that makes the green so sharp?

Blame the resolution on Imageshack's stupid 1.5MB limit; they downscaled all of my screens by 75%.

what was the original res? ps use picturepush, limit free uploadingGTR2addict

1680 X 1050, downscaled to 800 X 500 :(

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]what was the original res? ps use picturepush, limit free uploadingHanass

1680 X 1050, downscaled to 800 X 500 :(

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]what was the original res? ps use picturepush, limit free uploadingGTR2addict

1680 X 1050, downscaled to 800 X 500 :(

So what, the image will just be bigger. Big deal.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="Hanass"]

1680 X 1050, downscaled to 800 X 500 :(

Hanass

So what, the image will just be bigger. Big deal.

That doesn't automatically make it worseKingsMessenger

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

rage destroy's crysis at textures.videogamesdead8

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] That doesn't automatically make it worseAdrianWerner

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] That doesn't automatically make it worsevideogamesdead8

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

That being said I'm waiting for Doom3 mod called DarkMod far more than for anything Crytek will make in the future :D I just hope ID will make D3 engine open source in the future like they did with all their previous engines

omfg. i love my ps3. but to the people who say that a console game will top a pc game is just ridiculous. utterly absurd. shenanigans. in short, technically impossible.

the GPU's of both 360 and ps3 combined can't even compete with 2 Nvidia 8800 GT's on SLi. seriously. let alone the Nvidia 9000+ or ATi 4870 HD x2.

also, keyword is RAM. Gaming PC's GPU+RAM>>>>teh Cell and teh Xenos combined.

doom3 engine is overall my favorite graphics engine, videogamesdead8

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] That doesn't automatically make it worseAdrianWerner

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] That doesn't automatically make it worseKingsMessenger

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] That doesn't automatically make it worseKingsMessenger

Lack of fully dynamic global lighting is a step backwards in tech advancement, no matter how you look at it. Glonal dynamic lighting is the future, it looks best and is by far easiest to use (ID Tech 5 will be giving devs more work to do because of this), it's just that D3 tried it before the world and hardware was ready for it, so ID had to scale back.

However I do think the big reason for going back is that Tech 5 is consolecentric engine, if it would have been made primarly PC game like Doom3 was I doubt Carmack would go back.

wow, only a day off this thread and it has spiraled into a 15-page uncharted 2 vs. crysis debate, when i didn't even mention uncharted 2, haha. btw, i didn't know what project offset is all about. anybody care to show some screenshots, too lazy to find it myself :P.