Love what MS / Bungie have shown so far. What I can't wait to see is some of the game-play in the new levels - that a be the true test of this new Halo and me thinks Bungie will past the test with flying.... Colors, though a bit darker this time.:D
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Love what MS / Bungie have shown so far. What I can't wait to see is some of the game-play in the new levels - that a be the true test of this new Halo and me thinks Bungie will past the test with flying.... Colors, though a bit darker this time.:D
[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] You must hate Sony, man... Their past of constantly lying, and breaking promises is what made me to weary of the PS3. To this day, no company has ever matched Sony in the broken promises department.
themyth01
You do know Microsoft makes the 360 right? :?
360 was never said to do 4D graphics. Heck they never even said it would do 1080p at 120fps.Yep, 360 has allways been up to its expectations. PS3 on the other hand....
[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] You must hate Sony, man... Their past of constantly lying, and breaking promises is what made me to weary of the PS3. To this day, no company has ever matched Sony in the broken promises department.
themyth01
You do know Microsoft makes the 360 right? :?
360 was never said to do 4D graphics. Heck they never even said it would do 1080p at 120fps.Sounds like it was aimed at Sony as a whole which doesn't compare to Microsoft in said department as a whole. And 2 things =/= constantly.
Closely examining the video, I noticed there is too much AA for it to be considered "in game" graphics. I'd rather I stay neutral on this argument that rather get owned later for a uneducated opinion. I'll just keep it as an "I'm skeptical".JunkTrapI saw the same thing. I know MS's tricks. Sure that's in game but do people realize that you can run a 360 game on a development platform other than a 360? Sure you're playing the game, on a computer with an advanced gpu and processor.
[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] show proof? lmao just go watch halo3 trailor, OMG! this is absurd.ZoomZoom2490And so he fails to deliver. Seriously dude, this could turn out to be anything but going around making accusations without any grounds is something only fanboys do. you honestly believe the trailor was gameplay footage running on 360 hardware? ROFL! You have no proof of what you're saying so it's a stalemate...LOL, OMG, LMAO, ROFL, LMFAO
[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]
360 cant go above dx9, dont fall for the hype.
the trailor they showed was done on a computer with dx11 gpu from amd/ati
You're right, the 360's GPU is DX9 based. That doesn't mean that they can't get a few elements of DX10, and 11 working through software.You guys don't understand that there no such thing as DX-based GPU... they simply just got features that DX use and as i heared, Xenon got prototype telessation feature
What's the difference? :lol: Dx9 based....supports dx9 features....Same thing, said differently.prove it :lol:360 cant go above dx9, dont fall for the hype.
the trailor they showed was done on a computer with dx11 gpu from amd/ati
ZoomZoom2490
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]prove it :lol:lol@your name being tessellation. :lol:360 cant go above dx9, dont fall for the hype.
the trailor they showed was done on a computer with dx11 gpu from amd/ati
Tessellation
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]prove it :lol:360 cant go above dx9, dont fall for the hype.
the trailor they showed was done on a computer with dx11 gpu from amd/ati
Tessellation
Prove that it was on a 360 :o
Implementing that new tech produced this in game Warthog footage shown behind closed doors.
:P jk Though anything less - some will conclude..... Reach Failed. :twisted:
LOL, the 360 can do tessalation and hold it's own with a dx11 card.......ROFL. Alright TC. That made my day. Seriously though man DX11 is an awefully serious statement that should have never been said by any one with this current gen of consoles. It's all right though I'm sure the game will look mind blowing like UC2, but don't get your hopes up.
Why even bother mentioning tessellation though? Why all of sudden, Halo Reach out of all the games that came out would start using it? JunkTrapbecause reach is one of the very few games on 360 that has a custom engine, and the engine happens to use it. the vast majority of games on 360 use multiplat engines, and those engines cant use the feature if other platforms dont have it.
No one said it can holds its own with a DX11 card.LOL, the 360 can do tessalation and hold it's own with a dx11 card.......ROFL. Alright TC. That made my day. Seriously though man DX11 is an awefully serious statement that should have never been said by any one with this current gen of consoles. It's all right though I'm sure the game will look mind blowing like UC2, but don't get your hopes up.
gamewhat
So, the new excuse is that the vid was running on a PC? lol
Also i dont remember 360 owners being tricked. At least nothing at the same level of the fake 2005 Killzone2´s CGI :P
PAL360
Halo 3? All the lems were hyped about how MC's mask can relect.
why do lemms fall for these lies after 4 times of being tricked? i dont get it.
ZoomZoom2490
Alteast Bungie never claimed their games would run in 1080p at 120 frames per second. :lol:
ME 2 looks better than what we saw of reach yesterday so its all good :D
oh btw that was in engine, i doubt the game will acctually play like that but if it does :| god help the ps3 :P
well bungie still has 8 months to play with the graphics its completely possible and besides halo cutscenes are never that diffrent from ingame play.prove it :lol:[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]
360 cant go above dx9, dont fall for the hype.
the trailor they showed was done on a computer with dx11 gpu from amd/ati
Zero_epyon
Prove that it was on a 360 :o
i don't need to prove anything,i wasnt the one making the claims try harder ;).It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.AAllxxjjnnI find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking.
yeah, except halo is awesome and kz2....not so much *********DISCLAIMER: I AM ONLY BEING SILLY. PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE ABOVE POST SERIOUSLY.meh, halo reach looks great, mass effect 2 looks great. i think folks around here get too tied up with graphics.
clone01
This is a load of crap. The 360 can't do above DX9. This is like saying that my parent's PC, which was made in 2005, and has a really cheap video card, can magically do DX11. It doesn't happen.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153097
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.aaronmullanI find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking. i agree. that's the thing about halo. people try to play up the graphics, but i don't think the halo franchise has ever really been about that. for me, its always been the gameplay.
[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.clone01I find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking. i agree. that's the thing about halo. people try to play up the graphics, but i don't think the halo franchise has ever really been about that. for me, its always been the gameplay. I think so, too. But we have no gameplay to discuss :P
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
So, the new excuse is that the vid was running on a PC? lol
Also i dont remember 360 owners being tricked. At least nothing at the same level of the fake 2005 Killzone2´s CGI :P
OneLazyAsian
Halo 3? All the lems were hyped about how MC's mask can relect.
Well, yeah, i remember that. Still it was a reflex. Not a CGI being called ingame. Also Halo3 graphics ended looking almost as good as that vid imo.
360 CAN DO Tessellation, and stream-out, which are features in DX10/11, just obviously not on the same level. But keep in mind the 360 is a smaller scale than PC games because of resolution, and is a fixed platform.
"An alternative solution is suggested by the latest advances in GPU architecture. Recent generations of
commodity GPUs such as the Microsoft® Xbox® 360 and ATI Radeon™ HD 2000, 3000, and 4000 series have
shown tremendous improvements in geometry processing. These include unified shader architecture
(introduced with Xbox 360), more dedicated shader units, and hardware tessellation pipelines."
LINKY for your THINKY :P
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.aaronmullanI find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking. To me, it's looking like it could be the best looking 360 game. I don't think it looks better than Uncharted 2 though.
[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.AAllxxjjnnI find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking. To me, it's looking like it could be the best looking 360 game. I don't think it looks better than Uncharted 2 though. Not hard to be better than Gears 2 (I have a vendetta against the Unreal 3 engine :P)
Not hard to be better than Gears 2 (I have a vendetta against the Unreal 3 engine :P)aaronmullanI don't really like the Unreal 3 engine either. It's kind of inconsistent. : \ Gears 2 had a couple pretty areas though.
[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.AAllxxjjnnI find this quite funny, too. People say it looks CGI, but others (including me) can't find anything so amazing about it. The character models look good and so does the lighting, but everything else is quite normal looking. To me, it's looking like it could be the best looking 360 game. I don't think it looks better than Uncharted 2 though. id is saying how RAGE will be the best looking game across all consoles, but they are using a multiplat engine so I have my doubts. For 360 it will definetly be between Bungie, id, and Crytek. The latter two companies next games I will probably be getting for PC.
[QUOTE="themyth01"]ME is based on the Unreal Engine 3, so they can't do as many things as Bungie can, since Bungie developed their own engine and that's why Reach looks amazing. ZoomZoom2490lol, listen to me for one last time. they trailor you saw last night didnt run on 360 hardare. The game will be released in 2010. That was from the actual game, unlike other trailers in the past. The video was one of the opening cinematics and will be in the game exactly as it was shown yesterday. This has been confirmed by bungie several times.
I don't really like the Unreal 3 engine either. It's kind of inconsistent. : \ Gears 2 had a couple pretty areas though. Yeah, like the underground cavern place that is brought up in every Gears 2 V *insert game here* thread. The Unreal 3 engine is too muddy for my liking.[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Not hard to be better than Gears 2 (I have a vendetta against the Unreal 3 engine :P)AAllxxjjnn
It's funny how everyone's opinion of Reach's graphics are all over the place.AAllxxjjnn
lol it is so true.
id is saying how RAGE will be the best looking game across all consoles, but they are using a multiplat engine so I have my doubts. For 360 it will definetly be between Bungie, id, and Crytek. The latter two companies next games I will probably be getting for PC.SparkyProtocolCertain parts of the RAGE trailer looked better than others, like the scenery pics in the beginning and the part with the giant mutant looked fantastic, everything in between looked good but not great. The character models/gun models in particular looked like plastic and as if they weren't apart of the scene. Definitely buying whatever Crytek puts out on PC though!
Not hard to be better than Gears 2 (I have a vendetta against the Unreal 3 engine :P)aaronmullanI don't really like the Unreal 3 engine either. It's kind of inconsistent. : \ Gears 2 had a couple pretty areas though. Yeah, like the underground cavern place that is brought up in every Gears 2 V *insert game here* thread. The Unreal 3 engine is too muddy for my liking. Mass Effect 2 uses UE3 and colors well. I also enjoy Boderland's artsyle.
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]
why do lemms fall for these lies after 4 times of being tricked? i dont get it.
DarkGamer007
Alteast Bungie never claimed their games would run in 1080p at 120 frames per second. :lol:
haha or have dual 1080p hdmi ports, lol its been a hard week for cows.
Mass Effect 2 uses UE3 and colors well. I also enjoy Boderland's artsyle.SparkyProtocolI keep forgetting that ME2 uses Unreal. It definitely is one of the better looking games to use it. Mirrors Edge, too.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] prove it :lol:Tessellation
Prove that it was on a 360 :o
i don't need to prove anything,i wasnt the one making the claims try harder ;). You made a counter claim. Even though you worded it differently.I keep forgetting that ME2 uses Unreal. It definitely is one of the better looking games to use it. Mirrors Edge, too. Bioshock 1/2 also look nice, although they aren't using ME2's color palette. :P[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Mass Effect 2 uses UE3 and colors well. I also enjoy Boderland's artsyle.aaronmullan
This is a load of crap. The 360 can't do above DX9. This is like saying that my parent's PC, which was made in 2005, and has a really cheap video card, can magically do DX11. It doesn't happen.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153097
For the hundredth time, no is saying the 360 can do DX11.you seriously believe that dx11 is possible on the Xbox 360? To run a game on very high on the PC you need a 400-500$ graphics card alone. Blu-ray>DVD9, PS3 CPU> Xbox 360 CPU, the only thing the 360 has is a better GPU than the PS3 but it makes up for it with its CPU.If Halo Reach is getting this crazy DX 11 tesselation **Unlocking the xbox360s true potential** crap, why cant I get that stuff on my beloved Mass Effect. Now I know mass effect 2 is a BEATIFUL looking game. on the line with Uncharted 2 (Idk why no one mentions this lol) but I dont think its doing anything CRAZY with like DX 11 or w/e its called.
Of course, that Halo Reach, man, that was looking good, I say this because Bungie has confirmed thats what in game will look like. When this was confirmed for me, pants were crapped. lol
MASS EFFECT 2 GOTY 2010!!!! (imoimoimoimo) LOL
Hathesulacon
Closely examining the video, I noticed there is too much AA for it to be considered "in game" graphics. I'd rather I stay neutral on this argument that rather get owned later for a uneducated opinion. I'll just keep it as an "I'm skeptical".JunkTrapmust be running at 420p to keep up because that is the same under-resolution trickery MW2 pulled.
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