Apparently, Killzone 2's controls are unintuitive and sluggish...

Beautiful graphics and fairly decent multiplayer level design mean nothing in an FPS which during our hands-on took up to a week to respond to control inputs and masked the action with a layer of post-processed vaseline at every opportunity. Sluggish, terrible to control, and seemingly on a steadfast mission to confuse the player.Gamesradar

Guerilla better tighten up those controls if they wanna succeed. I actually thought the multiplayer is greater than decent though.

And can someone explain to me the "layer of post-processed vaseline" comment. Does it mean scripted?

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Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Cedmln

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Cedmln

lol this game is fail...no deathmatch? LOL

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

nervmeister

mind telling me why this games ripping off unreal 2 xmp online play and has no standard deathmatch?

I love the responses to these things. One preview gives credit to the game and people cheer and then one preview bashes every aspect of whatever and all the haters get excited and predict the doom of the game.

How strange.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

primateface

mind telling me why this games ripping off unreal 2 xmp online play and has no standard deathmatch?

Soo... Does anyone know what post-processed vaseline means?Slyprince

Soo... Does anyone know what post-processed vaseline means?Slyprince

I assume its the motion blur effect that they are bashing, which is primarily what makes the game look as good as it does, which they give no real credit to.

I'm taking this preview with a mouthful of salt.

[QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

nervmeister

mind telling me why this games ripping off unreal 2 xmp online play and has no standard deathmatch?

no....but ripping off the auto turrets unreal 2 xmp had which ripped them off from aliens 1986 movie is a big rip off another rip off lol.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

primateface

mind telling me why this games ripping off unreal 2 xmp online play and has no standard deathmatch?

no....but ripping off the auto turrets unreal 2 xmp had which ripped them off from aliens 1986 movie is a big rip off another rip off lol.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Nedemis

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand that it was quite easy to control and that you are lying completely :| I'm so tired of all these people faking that they have played the original, or even exaggerating its problems when they have played it.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:D3monchicken

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand that it was quite easy to control and that you are lying completely :| I'm so tired of all these people faking that they have played the original, or even exaggerating its problems when they have played it.

[QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Mind telling me why exactly this preview is in the 360 section?

nervmeister

mind telling me why this games ripping off unreal 2 xmp online play and has no standard deathmatch?

no....but ripping off the auto turrets unreal 2 xmp had which ripped them off from aliens 1986 movie is a big rip off another rip off lol.

yea rip offs

[QUOTE="Slyprince"]Soo... Does anyone know what post-processed vaseline means?Cedmln

I assume its the motion blur effect that they are bashing, which is primarily what makes the game look as good as it does, which they give no real credit to.

I'm taking this preview with a mouthful of salt.

All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.SSCyborg

meanwhile MS is doing the same thing buying usless exclusive downloadble dlc for hundreds of millions of dollars when that could have gone to so many more new games and franchises exclusives

Should be all good for release.

[QUOTE="Gamesradar"]Beautiful graphics and fairly decent multiplayer level design mean nothing in an FPS which during our hands-on took up to a week to respond to control inputs and masked the action with a layer of post-processed vaseline at every opportunity. Sluggish, terrible to control, and seemingly on a steadfast mission to confuse the player.Slyprince

Guerilla better tighten up those controls if they wanna succeed. I actually thought the multiplayer is greater than decent though.

And can someone explain to me the "layer of post-processed vaseline" comment. Does it mean scripted?

Link

layer of post-processed vaseline refers to the blur. The same way that taking off-screen videocam footage of a game makes the game look better than it really is, they are using a post-processing effect to blur the graphics to mask the fact that the textures are very low res for a next-gen game. Nothing wrong with this effect unless you just got done playing a game with high-res texture then switch to playing KZ2. Then you'll notice it and it will annoy you.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:primateface

lol this game is fail...no deathmatch? LOL

The game definitely does have deathmatch and team deadthmatch.

And i can't take this preview seriously, not when there has been a lot of other previews and none of them mentioned any problem with the controls. If they really were even half that bad, all previews would mention it.

[QUOTE="primateface"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Tykain

lol this game is fail...no deathmatch? LOL

The game definitely does have deathmatch and team deadthmatch.

And i can't take this preview seriously, not when there has been a lot of other previews and none of them mentioned any problem with the controls. If they really were even half that bad, all previews would mention it.

they said it's class based...that's not free for all vanilla deathmatch.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.VendettaRed07

meanwhile MS is doing the same thing buying usless exclusive downloadble dlc for hundreds of millions of dollars when that could have gone to so many more new games and franchises exclusives

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Nedemis

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand that it was quite easy to control and that you are lying completely :| I'm so tired of all these people faking that they have played the original, or even exaggerating its problems when they have played it.

What what what? I need to play a FPS title with great controls???? Like what? I've played Stalker, Crysis, Doom 3, Red Faction 1-2, Halo1-3, a billion ww2 games and a billion other first person shooters ranging from daikatana to chaser (JoWood **** me up with that ending.) to half life 1-2... I'm not claiming that Killzone had the best controls ever, but since I am not a complete moron, I found it extremely easy to use the controls that were set.

[QUOTE="primateface"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Tykain

lol this game is fail...no deathmatch? LOL

The game definitely does have deathmatch and team deadthmatch.

And i can't take this preview seriously, not when there has been a lot of other previews and none of them mentioned any problem with the controls. If they really were even half that bad, all previews would mention it.

Previews are nearly always positive because the media outlet creating the preview wants to continue to get access to news for that title.

When I first started reading reviews and previews, I didn't understand how a magazine could praise a game unconditionally during a preview, and then give it a 50% a month or two later and claim it's not worth playing.

It's all just part of the media game.

I have yet to understand why this KZ2 preview is in the 360 section of GamesRadar.

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

primateface

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

[QUOTE="primateface"]

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

ONLYDOD

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

primateface

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

I'll take your word for it, being the midair shooting expert you are.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:Nedemis

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

HAHA.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

primateface

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

but they already annonced that there will be jumping it the game :|

[QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

johnnyboy5000

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

but they already annonced that there will be jumping it the game :|

I think he's referring to shooting in the middle of a jump. I don't believe that's in game. Nor do I see why it's a big loss.

[QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

im old school all i care about is deathmatch

no free for all deathmatch=no buy well since i dont even own a ps3 yet=no buy lol

ONLYDOD

But you can't jump in the game, won't that ruin it completely? (You were the guy that complained about not being able to jump in the game right?)

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

I'll take your word for it, being the midair shooting expert you are.

Well on quake 2...i jump down from elevator platform on the edge map and shoot people while im falling with railgun.

so yea..no midair shooting sucks

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

primateface

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

I'll take your word for it, being the midair shooting expert you are.

Well on quake 2...i jump down from elevator platform on the edge map and shoot people while im falling with railgun.

so yea..no midair shooting sucks

It doesn't have to be exactly like other FPSs. Not shooting while jumping can change the pace and sty/e of the gameplay, offering a different experience. That kind of thing can be good in its own way.

All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.SSCyborg

at least they have resistance 2 which will be an awesome game.

All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.SSCyborg

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

[QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="primateface"]

Mordred19

well no jumping ruined perfect dark zero, no jumping/shooting in midair is also crap...but not as bad as no jumping period.

I'll take your word for it, being the midair shooting expert you are.

Well on quake 2...i jump down from elevator platform on the edge map and shoot people while im falling with railgun.

so yea..no midair shooting sucks

It doesn't have to be exactly like other FPSs. Not shooting while jumping can change the pace and sty/e of the gameplay, offering a different experience. That kind of thing can be good in its own way.

Nope it gives the person a unfair advantage on the ground because they can shoot at you falling and you cant shoot at them while falling.