Apperently Sony fanboys think Europe is full of backwards idiots.

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#1 Yellow_Rose
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...so let me get this straight boys.

In North America (the biggest gaming market) Sony "shipped" 1 million PS3's in 6 weeks with 300k of those units still on the store shelves as we speak because the games and the system itself did not live up to the hype. LINK

In Japan (Sony's home turf), the almighty PS3 sold 550k units, even though Sony has claimed today they "shipped" 1 million units again because the games and the system itself hasn't lined up to the hype. LINK

Knowing this and the fact that almost every gaming and mainstream press outlet has pretty much crowned PS3 one of the biggest duds of 2006, you guys still insist the europe will still flock to it?

That means you must think Europeans don't watch television, do go on the internet, don't read press reports don't see comparative video, and all around enjoy Sony themselves treating them as second-class consumers.

As you can see with all the PS3's collecting their 3rd layer of dust right now on retail shelves, there was absolutely no reason why Sony couldn't do a launch in at least the UK.

So please, tell me why the PS3 won't suffer the same outcome that it did in both NA and Japan?

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More games available by the time it launches on Europe.
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They think Europe is already a done deal, because they were Sonyland last gen.

News flash: That was last gen. You know, when your console wasn't $600 and had games?

EDIT: 3333rd post.

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I think the same about the Sony Corporation.
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Everyone hates Sony here (UK). Apart from the chavs but they don't count.
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If these are the same Sony fanboys that think that Americans are nothing but gun-loving rednecks, then yeah.
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#7 Brown52
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There was a thread on here like 3 days ago about a guy from Greece who said that PS3 was pretty much the only console everyone in his country wanted.  He also went on to say most of Europe shared his idea.

And no, I'm not gonna go look for the link.
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...so let me get this straight boys.

In North America (the biggest gaming market) Sony "shipped" 1 million PS3's in 6 weeks with 300k of those units still on the store shelves as we speak because the games and the system itself did not live up to the hype. LINK

In Japan (Sony's home turf), the almighty PS3 sold 550k units, even though Sony has claimed today they "shipped" 1 million units again because the games and the system itself hasn't lined up to the hype. LINK

Knowing this and the fact that almost every gaming and mainstream press outlet has pretty much crowned PS3 one of the biggest duds of 2006, you guys still insist the europe will still flock to it?

That means you must think Europeans don't watch television, do go on the internet, don't read press reports don't see comparative video, and all around enjoy Sony themselves treating them as second-class consumers.

As you can see with all the PS3's collecting their 3rd layer of dust right now on retail shelves, there was absolutely no reason why Sony couldn't do a launch in at least the UK.

So please, tell me why the PS3 won't suffer the same outcome that it did in both NA and Japan?

Yellow_Rose

So by your statement alone you have done exstensive research on the PS3 not selling at all?

So you are one of those people that can't think for yourself, you let magazine, newspapers, and gaming sites think for you instead of trying something out for yourself!

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...so let me get this straight boys.

In North America (the biggest gaming market) Sony "shipped" 1 million PS3's in 6 weeks with 300k of those units still on the store shelves as we speak because the games and the system itself did not live up to the hype. LINK

In Japan (Sony's home turf), the almighty PS3 sold 550k units, even though Sony has claimed today they "shipped" 1 million units again because the games and the system itself hasn't lined up to the hype. LINK

Knowing this and the fact that almost every gaming and mainstream press outlet has pretty much crowned PS3 one of the biggest duds of 2006, you guys still insist the europe will still flock to it?

That means you must think Europeans don't watch television, do go on the internet, don't read press reports don't see comparative video, and all around enjoy Sony themselves treating them as second-class consumers.

As you can see with all the PS3's collecting their 3rd layer of dust right now on retail shelves, there was absolutely no reason why Sony couldn't do a launch in at least the UK.

So please, tell me why the PS3 won't suffer the same outcome that it did in both NA and Japan?

Yellow_Rose
I was thinking of getting one (from the UK) But after all the lies and crap sony spew out as well as the delays, i went and got a 360 instead, glad i did. Alot of my mates are turning to nintendo and microsofts offerings over the ps3. I dont see why sony thought that they should crap on their loyal fans??? Its stupid
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Xbox 360 is everywhere here in Uk. Microsoft has actually done pretty well marketing their product(tv adverts etc) I haven't seen a single PS3 advert yet...
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Xbox 360 is everywhere here in Uk. Microsoft has actually done pretty well marketing their product(tv adverts etc) I haven't seen a single PS3 advert yet...SamiRDuran
yeah i see a 360 and wii adverts like every other ad on some channels
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#12 Mass_Effect
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Everyone hates Sony here (UK). Apart from the chavs but they don't count.hojobojo

Its not just chavs who love Sony, its little kids too.

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A year delay in Europe should kill the PS3 there for sure. It will launch what 15 months after the 360 and have less games, a higher price and worse graphics. But it will sell some for sure. Sony has brainwashed cows all over the world.
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because we in eruop like japanese stuff and would take that over american stuff anyday.
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Everyone hates Sony here (UK). Apart from the chavs but they don't count.hojobojo
no, i disagree. everyone like's sony/ps3 the majority of people are just blind casauls who want the ps3 because it's "cool"
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[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]More games available by the time it launches on Europe.[/QUOTE

And what games will those be?

VF5- was never really big in EU

Motorstorm - No offline miltiplayer and atrocious load times.

So just like in NA and japan the PS3 will be the "Resistance box"

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My sig is reason enough to dis regard any thread created by the topic maker.
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#18 Sketchbaz
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40 million PS2's sold 39 million PS1's sold. Yet Europe isn't important enough for launch :|
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#19 Yellow_Rose
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There was a thread on here like 3 days ago about a guy from Greece who said that PS3 was pretty much the only console everyone in his country wanted.  He also went on to say most of Europe shared his idea.

And no, I'm not gonna go look for the link.
Brown52

I saw that thread as well.

And I showed him this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovRbVs_rgSc

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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Xbox 360 is everywhere here in Uk. Microsoft has actually done pretty well marketing their product(tv adverts etc) I haven't seen a single PS3 advert yet...Psp_2DaCore
yeah i see a 360 and wii adverts like every other ad on some channels

hmm i see wii ads at least once a day 360...not so much
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[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]More games available by the time it launches on Europe.[/QUOTE

And what games will those be?

VF5- was never really big in EU

Motorstorm - No offline miltiplayer and atrocious load times.

So just like in NA and japan the PS3 will be the "Resistance box"

Yellow_Rose
Count resistance, and short time from the release there will be other games coming and also multiplats, it's not even the same situation.
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[QUOTE="Psp_2DaCore"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Xbox 360 is everywhere here in Uk. Microsoft has actually done pretty well marketing their product(tv adverts etc) I haven't seen a single PS3 advert yet...mamalaga12
yeah i see a 360 and wii adverts like every other ad on some channels

hmm i see wii ads at least once a day 360...not so much

I saw advertising on Best Buy for the 360. All the time. No PS3 ads. Wii ads for christmas
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A year delay in Europe should kill the PS3 there for sure. It will launch what 15 months after the 360 and have less games, a higher price and worse graphics. But it will sell some for sure. Sony has brainwashed cows all over the world. -CC-
Do you even live here? I know of one guy who owns a 360.
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#24 beyondgamez
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Europe love their playstatioin cant wait for the launch..ps3 goin to sell another million
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#25 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

...so let me get this straight boys.

In North America (the biggest gaming market) Sony "shipped" 1 million PS3's in 6 weeks with 300k of those units still on the store shelves as we speak because the games and the system itself did not live up to the hype. LINK

In Japan (Sony's home turf), the almighty PS3 sold 550k units, even though Sony has claimed today they "shipped" 1 million units again because the games and the system itself hasn't lined up to the hype. LINK

Knowing this and the fact that almost every gaming and mainstream press outlet has pretty much crowned PS3 one of the biggest duds of 2006, you guys still insist the europe will still flock to it?

That means you must think Europeans don't watch television, do go on the internet, don't read press reports don't see comparative video, and all around enjoy Sony themselves treating them as second-class consumers.

As you can see with all the PS3's collecting their 3rd layer of dust right now on retail shelves, there was absolutely no reason why Sony couldn't do a launch in at least the UK.

So please, tell me why the PS3 won't suffer the same outcome that it did in both NA and Japan?

Ericvon71

So by your statement alone you have done exstensive research on the PS3 not selling at all?

So you are one of those people that can't think for yourself, you let magazine, newspapers, and gaming sites think for you instead of trying something out for yourself!

It has nothing to do with what I think.  I'm just showing the reality of the situation, and asking what's gonna be different.

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More games available by the time it launches on Europe.tegovoltio
No Soccer games in the near future for the PS3, though. This is a much more imporant matter than most non-europeans would believe.
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#27 Mr_sprinkles
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Why does everyone think europe = sonyland??

Europe
Pop. 700 million.
ps2 owners. 25-30 million

US
Pop. 300 million
ps2 owners. 35 million

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#28 Mass_Effect
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[QUOTE="-CC-"]A year delay in Europe should kill the PS3 there for sure. It will launch what 15 months after the 360 and have less games, a higher price and worse graphics. But it will sell some for sure. Sony has brainwashed cows all over the world. trasherhead
Do you even live here? I know of one guy who owns a 360.

I live in the UK, and six people, including me, own an Xbox 360 in my Business studies class (I go to College)

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Nintendo owns Europe now More DS's sold in Europe than the USA, true story
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wish non european would stop talking about europ like they know what its like here. we aren't poor like 70% of the us population.trasherhead
we're not dumb either well i'm not, your statement says different about you
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#32 Yellow_Rose
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My sig is reason enough to dis regard any thread created by the topic maker.mave198

Your sig doesn't change the facts I presented.

Does you sig change the facts PS3 demand has pretty much halted?  No.

So what now?

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40 million PS2's sold 39 million PS1's sold. Yet Europe isn't important enough for launch :|Sketchbaz

I didn't say that.  What I said was that certain Sony fanbouy seem to believe Europe is so blindly loyal to Sony, they'll buys millions of PS3s at launch despite what's happening everywhere else.

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#35 Sketchbaz
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Why does everyone think europe = sonyland??

Europe
Pop. 700 million.
ps2 owners. 25-30 million

US
Pop. 300 million
ps2 owners. 35 million

Mr_sprinkles
40 million were sold in Europe. And don't count the 700 million as a real figure, as most of them are from the poorer places in Europe. You're looking at the UK, France, Germany, Holland, Spain and Italy (to a lesser degree). Those are the major markets in Europe. With roughly 300 million people between them.
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wish non european would stop talking about europ like they know what its like here. we aren't poor like 70% of the us population.trasherhead
funny, the only country in europe with more money per person than the US is luxembourg. shows how much you know about europe I guess.
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Nintendo owns Europe now More DS's sold in Europe than the USA, true storybullet_math

Link? (Not from Zelda)

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#38 trasherhead
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Why does everyone think europe = sonyland??

Europe
Pop. 700 million.
ps2 owners. 25-30 million

US
Pop. 300 million
ps2 owners. 35 million

Mr_sprinkles
And released in germany/norway/sweeden/denmark/ finland/ england/ france/ netherland/belgium =200 million people.
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Europe love their playstatioin cant wait for the launch..ps3 goin to sell another million
beyondgamez

How long do you think it will talk to sell that million.

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They think Europe is already a done deal, because they were Sonyland last gen.

News flash: That was last gen. You know, when your console wasn't $600 and had games?

EDIT: 3333rd post.

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I bought a PS2 at launch here in England and there was one good game for it.
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]wish non european would stop talking about europ like they know what its like here. we aren't poor like 70% of the us population.Mr_sprinkles
funny, the only country in europe with more money per person than the US is luxembourg. shows how much you know about europe I guess.

That's not money per person, that's GDP per Capita. Thanks to huge oil reserves and vast natural resources the US has a huge GDP. The average person in the main European countries earns more. For example the minimum wage in England is £5.60 or something around that number, that's around $10 per hour MINUMUM.
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why does everyone think europe = sonyland??

Europe
Pop. 700 million.
ps2 owners. 25-30 million

US
Pop. 300 million
ps2 owners. 35 million

trasherhead
And released in germany/norway/sweeden/denmark/ finland/ england/ france/ netherland/belgium =200 million people.

He actually included the Eastern European countries?

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[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]More games available by the time it launches on Europe.[/QUOTE

And what games will those be?

VF5- was never really big in EU

Motorstorm - No offline miltiplayer and atrocious load times.

So just like in NA and japan the PS3 will be the "Resistance box"

Yellow_Rose

? PS3 will launch with VF5, Oblivion, Resistance, Call of duty 3, Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword.

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]wish non european would stop talking about europ like they know what its like here. we aren't poor like 70% of the us population.Mr_sprinkles
funny, the only country in europe with more money per person than the US is luxembourg. shows how much you know about europe I guess.

I'd like to see that statistics please, since i live in norway which is on top on the UN chart on wealth.
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#45 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why does everyone think europe = sonyland??

Europe
Pop. 700 million.
ps2 owners. 25-30 million

US
Pop. 300 million
ps2 owners. 35 million

Mass_Effect

And released in germany/norway/sweeden/denmark/ finland/ england/ france/ netherland/belgium =200 million people.

He actually included the Eastern European countries?

No offence to the people in easter europ, but they are still suffering from the cold war and the rule of the soviet union.
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[QUOTE="bullet_math"]Nintendo owns Europe now More DS's sold in Europe than the USA, true storyNintega91

Link? (Not from Zelda)

There's alot of sources out there, i remember seeing ones on Gaf for the UK/Germany here's one
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#47 Nintega91
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I bought a PS2 at launch here in England and there was one good game for it.SolidSnake35

Where as most people with sense already enjoyed the huge number of quality DC games whilst they waited for a price drop and good games on the PS2.

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"] No offence to the people in easter europ, but they are still suffering from the cold war and the rule of the soviet union.

No they're not, they're emerging as a viable economic force since the fall of communisma and their population alone ensures that they remain significant
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? PS3 will launch with VF5, Oblivion, Resistance, Call of duty 3, Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword.

z_gaming_master

Already made my comments on VF5 and Motorstorm.

I guess you didn't hear Heavenly Sword was pushed back

And Oblivion and CoD3 are already on 360.

So again, "resistance box"

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#50 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="trasherhead"]wish non european would stop talking about europ like they know what its like here. we aren't poor like 70% of the us population.Sketchbaz
funny, the only country in europe with more money per person than the US is luxembourg. shows how much you know about europe I guess.

That's not money per person, that's GDP per Capita. Thanks to huge oil reserves and vast natural resources the US has a huge GDP. The average person in the main European countries earns more. For example the minimum wage in England is £5.60 or something around that number, that's around $10 per hour MINUMUM.

[QUOTE="bullet_math"][QUOTE="trasherhead"] No offence to the people in easter europ, but they are still suffering from the cold war and the rule of the soviet union.

No they're not, they're emerging as a viable economic force since the fall of communisma and their population alone ensures that they remain significant

This is a different debate but, yes they are coming along very vel, but arnt close to the standar of western europ, though they wil, probably within the next 20 years, but they would already be there if they hadn't had comunist rule for so long.