Apple CEO Tim Cook Pays a Visit to Valve's HQ in Washington -- Scared Yet?

Apple please buy vavle i will be rolling on the floor loling. Hermits hate apple so bad it would be comedy gold.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Maybe, but even Valves first party games have considerably poor performance on MAC OS C compared with Windows equivilant as benchmarks display. Its not up to valve what OS has what games, its each individual developer. App developers flock to android and iOS.... because they know thats the established market and the kinda people they are targeting are there. Core Software Game Developers know that outside of already INSANE popular franchises (Blizzard, LoL ect) that there isnt much of an audiance in comparison on the mac side of things. Hell the closest thing they will get is the mac fanboys that are dellusional enough to believe bootcamping windows offers similar or better performance :lol: ... omg I live with one, its hilarious.PC360Wii

and how is bootcamp any worse? lol Its windows 7 pro. Its the exact same thing only on MAC hardware. LOL like your custom buot rig defines the Windows experience.

Gonna be honest I have no clue what you mean by mobile hardware. What I do know is that my family has a Windows downstairs, while I have a Mac pro, and I notice nothing in terms of diminished performence out of my mac when running the Win7 partition.

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and how is bootcamp any worse? lol Its windows 7 pro. Its the exact same thing only on MAC hardware. LOL like your custom buot rig defines the Windows experience.

PurpleMan5000

Because while windows does gaming better I personally think apple does a much better job with all of its creation minded software. I also get much better "speed" from OSX then windows 7 (ie programs boot quicker stuff liek that).

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and how is bootcamp any worse? lol Its windows 7 pro. Its the exact same thing only on MAC hardware. LOL like your custom buot rig defines the Windows experience.

inb4uall

Gonna be honest I have no clue what you mean by mobile hardware. What I do know is that my family has a Windows downstairs, while I have a Mac pro, and I notice nothing in terms of diminished performence out of my mac when running the Win7 partition.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] *Looks at name* then looks at *Signature* then looks at *last post in this thread* .... im not going to get a serious response am I, but il humour. 1) You fail to factor in that bootcamp is still not 100% native and does NOT get equal performance, though it is considerably better than making a virtual machine with windows on. 2) That the majority of Apple users for MAC OS X are iMAC and MAC BOOK PRO Users, all running you guessed it, MOBILE HARDWARE.PC360Wii

Gonna be honest I have no clue what you mean by mobile hardware. What I do know is that my family has a Windows downstairs, while I have a Mac pro, and I notice nothing in terms of diminished performence out of my mac when running the Win7 partition.

no I have a have a mac pro, as in the desktop variety.

the family windows is a pretty new Dell btw. So no its not custom built but its still a windows running "natively".

More collaboration between the two to get more games to come to Mac OS would be nice. Linux wouldn't be a far shot after that.

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Gonna be honest I have no clue what you mean by mobile hardware. What I do know is that my family has a Windows downstairs, while I have a Mac pro, and I notice nothing in terms of diminished performence out of my mac when running the Win7 partition.

inb4uall

no I have a have a mac pro, as in the desktop variety.

the family windows is a pretty new Dell btw. So no its not custom built but its still a windows running "natively".

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] You mean you have an expensive laptop and your who are likely more casual than you with a 400 pound pc doesnt stand up to the mac? who would of thunk it?. Mobile hardware, as in a minature version of normal desktop hardware. Example I have an ATI 6950 Graphics card. laptops and imacs can get a ATI 6950M Graphics card ...... SAME PERFORMANCE COZ SAME NUMBERS RIGHT? ... yea no...PC360Wii

no I have a have a mac pro, as in the desktop variety.

the family windows is a pretty new Dell btw. So no its not custom built but its still a windows running "natively".

its less then a year old so Idk how often you're updating your gaming rig but I doubt you run out every month the second a new part comes out ether. as for compressing files and stuff unless its gaming related files I just do it on the OSX side. I haven't had any problems with any steam games on the win 7 side. If these advantages are so un-noticable then your arguement for running windows on a windows seems to be a pretty poor one.

ust that if Apple WOULD release a competitor to DirectX, they would get a lot more games. WPurpleMan5000

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

Really wish I could have been a fly on that wall. What would they have talked about? Here's something worth a laugh -- Half-Life 3 an OSX Exclusive title. lolmusicalmac

More collaboration between the two to get more games to come to Mac OS would be nice. Linux wouldn't be a far shot after that.

Hexagon_777

Really wish I could have been a fly on that wall. What would they have talked about? Here's something worth a laugh -- Half-Life 3 an OSX Exclusive title. lolmusicalmac

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]ust that if Apple WOULD release a competitor to DirectX, they would get a lot more games. WAdrianWerner

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]ust that if Apple WOULD release a competitor to DirectX, they would get a lot more games. WAdrianWerner

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

Traditional PC marketshare is becoming increasingly insignificant. Expect that number to mean very little very soon. musicalmac

Traditional PC market is still growing year by year and what's more PC gaming is booming. It doesn't really matter how well everything else will be doing, a platform that sells over 400 mln units a year will never have problem getting support from developers.

Altough I do thin Apple will leave PC market sometime in the futue. Mac has been such a specacular failure compared to everything else they're doing that I just can't see them sticking with it indefinitely. At the very least OSX will be killed and replaced with iOS variant.

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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]ust that if Apple WOULD release a competitor to DirectX, they would get a lot more games. WHexagon_777

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]More collaboration between the two to get more games to come to Mac OS would be nice. Linux wouldn't be a far shot after that.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]More collaboration between the two to get more games to come to Mac OS would be nice. Linux wouldn't be a far shot after that.blue_hazy_basic

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Why? You already have OpenGL on Mac. Making Mac-specific DirectX competitor would damage the platform, not help it.

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

AdrianWerner

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Why? You already have OpenGL on Mac. Making Mac-specific DirectX competitor would damage the platform, not help it.

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

AdrianWerner

quadrupal post!:o

I get the first part. The second part can be offset by considering them as loss leaders.

Hexagon_777

It makes sense for Sony or Microsoft to use this strategy, because they're selling gateways to software they make money from. WIth Apple that's not the case.

Really wish I could have been a fly on that wall. What would they have talked about? Here's something worth a laugh -- Half-Life 3 an OSX Exclusive title. lolmusicalmac

That would be the worst decision in the history of Valve.

Would be lol worthy as Valve goes under.

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I get the first part. The second part can be offset by considering them as loss leaders.

AdrianWerner

It makes sense for Sony or Microsoft to use this strategy, because they're selling gateways to software they make money from. WIth Apple that's not the case.

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[QUOTE="inb4uall"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]inb4uall

What about iTunes? And all that other software they sell? Aren't you basically tied to Apple once you go Apple?

Hexagon_777

Also, the moment they would close OSX is the moment people would generally stop buying those computers in masses, so once again the loss leader strategy wouldn't work.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Why? You already have OpenGL on Mac. Making Mac-specific DirectX competitor would damage the platform, not help it.

Even with all the modern popularity Macs have troubles breaking 5% market share and at the rate they're growing it will take like tecade or two before they reach 10%. It's forever destined to be niche platform, so forcing devs to learn whole new API instead of using existing one would be a terrible idea.

AdrianWerner

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I get the first part. The second part can be offset by considering them as loss leaders.

Hexagon_777

It makes sense for Sony or Microsoft to use this strategy, because they're selling gateways to software they make money from. WIth Apple that's not the case.

itunes is great and so is iphoto but some of the best software is thirdparty software in my opinion.

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What about iTunes? And all that other software they sell? Aren't you basically tied to Apple once you go Apple?

AdrianWerner

Also, the moment they would close OSX is the moment people would generally stop buying those computers in masses, so once again the loss leader strategy wouldn't work.

ITT: A lot of hate towards Apple.

ITT: A lot of hate towards Apple.

Nohtnym

unfortunately. Idk I'm juat not satisfied with Microsoft's products. I have a 360 but I play all mutliplats on my ps3. And I have win7 on my mac but I only use it because I HAVE to in order to game on a PC platform.

ITT: A lot of hate towards Apple.

Nohtnym

Once you get this big, hate is inevitable.

I doubt it's anything we have to worry about, I whole heartedly believe Apple will never get into serious console wars with their insane selling iPad and iPhones doing the easy work for them.

This visit could have been about anything. I think the most likely reason was to learn about Valves business culture. The second most likely reason was probably to get Valve excited about the Mac/iPhone platforms. I mean, Valve are small-time compared to Apple so a simple, practically free, visit to Valve could improve relations tremendously.

I don't think Valve being bought out is an option. That isn't really the CEO's job.

Actually, forget everything I just said. He probably went there to pray to Gabeard and learn all the secrets about HL3.

Isn't there a rumour about valve wanting to make a closed system (steam box?) and if there is any truth to that partnering with Apple for said product would probably be a good decision.

Sony are fuked.RR360DD

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Scared about a meeting for better game support? not really.... your still that 6-7% of the OS market.Heil68

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Really wish I could have been a fly on that wall. What would they have talked about? Here's something worth a laugh -- Half-Life 3 an OSX Exclusive title. lolWasdie

That would be the worst decision in the history of Valve.

Would be lol worthy as Valve goes under.

Apple please buy vavle i will be rolling on the floor loling.

dontshackzmii

Isn't there a rumour about valve wanting to make a closed system (steam box?) and if there is any truth to that partnering with Apple for said product would probably be a good decision.

SapSacPrime

Uh, no it wouldn't. Nothing about Apple meshes with the idea of a Steam Box -- it would have to primarily run Windows, it would have to be priced well below any comparable Apple product (since it would have to run x86), and it would have to leave much more room for user customizability and tinkering than Apple would ever be comfortable with. The only way that partnership works is if it boils down to "Valve does whatever they want but slap an Apple sticker on it at the end", and that isn't the sort of deal Apple tends to go for.

Oh playing HL3 on an Ipad. :shock:

Future iTVs will compete with consoles and fully support Steam! :o

Or, most probably, more games on Steam compatible with Mac, which is a good thing.

is Apple the new Microsoft? do they want to rule the world :S? I'm getting a bit scared now. Hide yo wives hide yo kids apple's coming so does the end of the world D;