Apple makes best PC gaming laptop

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]What's the rMBP's native res and how well do the 650m run games on it? Dynafrom

Native res is 2880x1800.

Games run VERY well, depending on the age of the game.

BF3 = 1680x1050, High settings for 50-60+ FPS on 64P servers.

Skyrim = 1920x1200 Ultra settings, 4x AA, 50+ FPS

All source games = 2880x1800, 8x MSAA 120+ FPS

Shogun 2 = 1920x1200, High settings, 50+ FPS.

I tend to tradeoff quality for higher FPS, but for some people, they can play at 2880x1800 @ 30 FPS.

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

I'll admit that for the specs its impressive the thinnes and lightness of it it is but its defintly not the only light weight gaming grade laptop this gigbyte laptop is lighter $1200 cheaper and is close in cpu/gpu performance(and with both running at native resolution expect it to perform similair if not better in games). It also uses a 1600x900 ips screen what your missing out on is the higher resolution and higher dpi screen of the macbook pro retina.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-shows-off-14-inch-U2440-U2442-Ultrabooks-and-Carbon-X11-notebook.76029.0.html

DJ_Headshot

The 640/630m do not come close to a 650m, which stock is 20%+ faster. The higher clocked version in the rMBP would be even more faster. For $1200, the gigabyte is a rip off, considering it's just a timeline M5 but $400 more.

20% is definely close people raved about the 8800gt when it first came out was like 80% of a 8800gtx and that was only $250 cheaper when something is $1100 cheaper and comes that close thats definatly something. Especially since given the resolution on it you don't need as much power to run games well at the native resolution so the performance diffrence is a moot point. The macbook pro retina is not a bad laptop by any means its actually very good but its not "the best gaming laptop". Its not the highest performance you can buy for the money nor is the lightest gaming grade laptop you can buy and its certinaly not the best bang for you buck laptop. What is the best at is at having the highest resolution display in a laptop and for people who value highresolution+dpi in small laptop screen it is the is the best one currently and It fills that niche for those willing to pay the high price.

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]What's the rMBP's native res and how well do the 650m run games on it? 04dcarraher

Native res is 2880x1800.

Games run VERY well, depending on the age of the game.

BF3 = 1680x1050, High settings for 50-60+ FPS on 64P servers.

Skyrim = 1920x1200 Ultra settings, 4x AA, 50+ FPS

All source games = 2880x1800, 8x MSAA 120+ FPS

Shogun 2 = 1920x1200, High settings, 50+ FPS.

I tend to tradeoff quality for higher FPS, but for some people, they can play at 2880x1800 @ 30 FPS.

:lol: @ apple laptops. Highway robbery

[QUOTE="GarGx1"]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-065-MS Resolution isn't as high as the retina screen and it's not as pretty. Battery life is good, hardware under the bonnet is better, It's lighter at 3.5Kg, doesn't come with a locked OS with minimal support outside of Apple (you'ld need to install Windows to play most games) and at £1499 it's £800 cheaper http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook-pro/specs Here's the Macbook link for UK site, no point linking the American site as a comparisson as the MSi link is for a British site also. personally I think the MSi is much better value for money. The only tech advantage the MacBook has is the Retina screen which is truely a beauty to behold, everything else is majorly underpowered for the price they are asking. The other Mac advantage is asthetic, the Mac is much prettier, this is very true for most Apple products when comparing to the other competition in the pre built PC market. I would rather have the MSi and an extra £800 in my pocket (not sure where the link options have gone but I couldn't set up the links so you'll need to copy and paste) Dynafrom

If there are laptops that can play games better, then the rMBP is not the best GAMING laptop

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

So... You claim that a very thin laptop which gets extremely hot by doing nothing, and with no air circulation is THE best gaming laptop? Enjoy your paperweight in a few months, with the dust buildup, and overheated componants, it sounds like the dumbest use of said Laptop (be gaming on it that it).

But each tohis own I guess, as long as someone does acknowlage its thier own failt, and not blame it on hardware *rolls eyes*

Dynafrom

Nope, harping on very real physics of how thin laptops in general burns to a crisp with heavy load. Do me a favor and read up on basic physics and failurerates before pulling that bull on here again thanks. I hate how some people thinks that just because they are told so, basic rules of heat, dust and slim factors does not apply anymore. And fix the attitude.

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

So... You claim that a very thin laptop which gets extremely hot by doing nothing, and with no air circulation is THE best gaming laptop? Enjoy your paperweight in a few months, with the dust buildup, and overheated componants, it sounds like the dumbest use of said Laptop (be gaming on it that it).

But each tohis own I guess, as long as someone does acknowlage its thier own failt, and not blame it on hardware *rolls eyes*

Maddie_Larkin

Nope, harping on very real physics of how thin laptops in general burns to a crisp with heavy load. Do me a favor and read up on basic physics and failurerates before pulling that bull on here again thanks. I hate how some people thinks that just because they are told so, basic rules of heat, dust and slim factors does not apply anymore. And fix the attitude.

Yeah it's pretty well known that MBPs and pretty much all laptops get hot while doing any sort of graphics or videos

having a strained back carrying a 6lb + laptop all day.Dynafrom

I understand the lure of lighter laptops for some people, I'd wager you have more pressing concerns if carrying 6 additional pounds is straining your back that much. You're more likely to develop back problems from sitting hunched over your laptop - which of course the even Macbooks are suspectible too.

I wouldn't mind having one during one of my trips abroad. Those have been lesser as of late. But, we do road trips back to Nevada and Arizona once a year.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

Native res is 2880x1800.

Games run VERY well, depending on the age of the game.

BF3 = 1680x1050, High settings for 50-60+ FPS on 64P servers.

Skyrim = 1920x1200 Ultra settings, 4x AA, 50+ FPS

All source games = 2880x1800, 8x MSAA 120+ FPS

Shogun 2 = 1920x1200, High settings, 50+ FPS.

I tend to tradeoff quality for higher FPS, but for some people, they can play at 2880x1800 @ 30 FPS.

Dynafrom

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

Why do people keep harping the same nonsense? If you don't own a retina, then how can you describe gaming performance? The retina screen is not a gimmick, it's the real deal. 2880x1800 on W7, w/ 150% DPI scaling looks phenomenal. And the "weak" GT650 is actually clocked to GTX660m levels @ stock, and with mine, I was able to get +150/+500 OC, which increased it by a additional 12%. You can play NEW games at 1920x1200, as I've tested. Yes, you need to install W7, but since I had EE given from work, it was FREE for me. A good "PC" gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. It's not a portable machine. Something you carry when you commute would be a much lighter machine. The demographics for the rMBP is not for the highschool student. It's for the moving professional who can do some gaming while sitting on a train to work. And what "cooling" issue do you speak of? Anand did a analysis of this, with almost 0 throttling in games. I bought the rMBP because it had no PC equivalent on the market, and I can afford it. For the professional who wants a mobile gaming laptop, this is the BEST option.

Dynafrom

[QUOTE="GarGx1"]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-065-MS Resolution isn't as high as the retina screen and it's not as pretty. Battery life is good, hardware under the bonnet is better, It's lighter at 3.5Kg, doesn't come with a locked OS with minimal support outside of Apple (you'ld need to install Windows to play most games) and at £1499 it's £800 cheaper http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook-pro/specs Here's the Macbook link for UK site, no point linking the American site as a comparisson as the MSi link is for a British site also. personally I think the MSi is much better value for money. The only tech advantage the MacBook has is the Retina screen which is truely a beauty to behold, everything else is majorly underpowered for the price they are asking. The other Mac advantage is asthetic, the Mac is much prettier, this is very true for most Apple products when comparing to the other competition in the pre built PC market. I would rather have the MSi and an extra £800 in my pocket (not sure where the link options have gone but I couldn't set up the links so you'll need to copy and paste) Dynafrom

Appologises for the weight I mis-read the apple site and saw 4lbs as 4kg.

It's not $800 cheaper, it's £800 that's $1264.72 (at todays exchange) more for less hardware. Apples are very pretty and Retina screens are first class but as with all Apple products they are vastly over priced and under powered. Onlt Alienware come close to Apple for rip off prices

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

The 640/630m do not come close to a 650m, which stock is 20%+ faster. The higher clocked version in the rMBP would be even more faster. For $1200, the gigabyte is a rip off, considering it's just a timeline M5 but $400 more.Dynafrom

20% is definely close people raved about the 8800gt when it first came out was like 80% of a 8800gtx and that was only $250 cheaper when something is $1100 cheaper and comes that close thats definatly something. Especially since given the resolution on it you don't need as much power to run games well at the native resolution so the performance diffrence is a moot point. The macbook pro retina is not a bad laptop by any means its actually very good but its not "the best gaming laptop". Its not the highest performance you can buy for the money nor is the lightest gaming grade laptop you can buy and its certinaly not the best bang for you buck laptop. What is the best at is at having the highest resolution display in a laptop and for people who value highresolution+dpi in small laptop screen it is the is the best one currently and It fills that niche for those willing to pay the high price.

The retina might not be the best in raw performance, however it's the best "portable" gaming laptop. What a joke that PC manufacturers still continue to make 2 inch thick, 7LB+ monsters with crap TN screens for $1799.99+, when a thinner, similarly specced, high quality rMBP goes for sub ~2100.

Dynafrom

The retina might not be the best in raw performance, however it's the best "portable" gaming laptop. What a joke that PC manufacturers still continue to make 2 inch thick, 7LB+ monsters with crap TN screens for $1799.99+, when a thinner, similarly specced, high quality rMBP goes for sub ~2100.

Dynafrom

I can't believe people took this obvious bait.

Welcome back a user I remember from over a year ago.

Hermits are stupid and insecure.

PC gamers like poorly constructed casing along with ghetto mods to their system, and are supposely anti-laptops as if they set the standards. They have trouble forking in $ for softwares, and now you're asking them to pay those amount for the best laptop in the world? They rather buy a cheap plastic Lenovo and run lowly 720p TN screens.

Mr_BillGates

Hermits are stupid and insecure.

inb4uall

TC is a generic Apple fanboy as well as an idiot. Mac's never have been, and never will be a viable option for gaming.gamebreakerz__

Right, I'm a apple fanboy, who's only apple device is a rMBP. I'd wager my PC setup stomps yours kid.

LOL

So this is the twist the whole recent MAC/PC spam thing evolved into?

:lol:

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

The retina might not be the best in raw performance, however it's the best "portable" gaming laptop. What a joke that PC manufacturers still continue to make 2 inch thick, 7LB+ monsters with crap TN screens for $1799.99+, when a thinner, similarly specced, high quality rMBP goes for sub ~2100.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

The retina might not be the best in raw performance, however it's the best "portable" gaming laptop. What a joke that PC manufacturers still continue to make 2 inch thick, 7LB+ monsters with crap TN screens for $1799.99+, when a thinner, similarly specced, high quality rMBP goes for sub ~2100.

Dynafrom

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] You really are completely oblivious to technology aren't you? You do realize than there is nothing impressive about the retina display? I guess compared to other laptops it is decent, since every laptop ever made has a GARBAGE screen. Still the, retina blows compared to something like a CRT monitor, plasma TV or CRT TV. or AMOLED mobile screen (something Apple doesn't use in their iphones, they use regular S-LCD over the vastly superior Super AMOLED Samsung uses) I also think the Retina is a TFT display as well..Mozelleple112

Says the clown asking if it's TFT tech when all LCD panels fall under TFT. Care to compare an IPS with a TN? Or MVA? A laptop can be bought for the screen; suppose you're on a train, where you can't fully extend your laptop screen. A TN panel will have it's colors distorted on anything less than perfect vertical angle, whereas I can watch my IPS screen on all sides. My PC monitor, a LG HDTV LED screen is IPS, as is my 27" secondary Samsung. The retina is on par with both displays. Pretty good for something that I can carry around.

Resolution is not the deal breaker, VIEWING angles are.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

Why do people keep harping the same nonsense? If you don't own a retina, then how can you describe gaming performance? The retina screen is not a gimmick, it's the real deal. 2880x1800 on W7, w/ 150% DPI scaling looks phenomenal. And the "weak" GT650 is actually clocked to GTX660m levels @ stock, and with mine, I was able to get +150/+500 OC, which increased it by a additional 12%. You can play NEW games at 1920x1200, as I've tested. Yes, you need to install W7, but since I had EE given from work, it was FREE for me. A good "PC" gaming laptop is a desktop replacement. It's not a portable machine. Something you carry when you commute would be a much lighter machine. The demographics for the rMBP is not for the highschool student. It's for the moving professional who can do some gaming while sitting on a train to work. And what "cooling" issue do you speak of? Anand did a analysis of this, with almost 0 throttling in games. I bought the rMBP because it had no PC equivalent on the market, and I can afford it. For the professional who wants a mobile gaming laptop, this is the BEST option.

Dynafrom

I'd give you -graham's/10, but people have kept this thread going past one or two posts w/o changing the subject.

You know what tates good, eclairs. I've not had one in years.

PC gamers are as ignorant as consolers when it comes to Mac. Similarity? Both are living in the past. Get with the time, this is post-PC era.

I'd give you -graham's/10, but people have kept this thread going past one or two posts w/o changing the subject.

You know what tates good, eclairs. I've not had one in years.

Inconsistancy

Not had one since I left the UK :(

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

PC gamers like poorly constructed casing along with ghetto mods to their system, and are supposely anti-laptops as if they set the standards. They have trouble forking in $ for softwares, and now you're asking them to pay those amount for the best laptop in the world? They rather buy a cheap plastic Lenovo and run lowly 720p TN screens.

Dynafrom

MMm, if you're talking about desktops I'd have to disagree. Sure a lot of PC gamers put gaudy looking LED fans, with ugly cases. But take for instance my rig:

I use a very simple TJ09, which is very high quality.

To be fair, the light up Apple logo on a MacBook is no better.

this is post-PC era.

Mr_BillGates

and I thought that the best gaming laptop should have two GTX680M and not a GTX650M, but then again we are in SW that everything is possible!

Cool, I could build some of the best PC's on the market for that price

That topic can't be for real!!!!!

Guess I'm just dreaming

and I thought that the best gaming laptop should have two GTX680M and not a GTX650M, but then again we are in SW that everything is possible!

MK-Professor

Whenever my GTX650M is used my battery life gets cut in half. Couldn't imagine how fast two GTX680M's would drain a typical laptop battery.

Not for $2100 it isn't. That's a rip-off that anyone (except for Apple fanboys) should see a mile away. Not only is that laptop more expensive than even an awesome desktop PC, it's can't be upgraded at all, not even the Hard Drive (which is completely solid state).

PC gamers are as ignorant as consolers when it comes to Mac. Similarity? Both are living in the past. Get with the time, this is post-PC era.

Mr_BillGates

PC gamers are as ignorant as consolers when it comes to Mac. Similarity? Both are living in the past. Get with the time, this is post-PC era.

Mr_BillGates

How does it feel to be an Apple zombie?

There is no such thing as a GAMING LAPTOP, well unless you are a peasant, then you mite think you bought urself some gaming pc, or at least thats what they tell you you bought.

There is no such thing as a GAMING LAPTOP, well unless you are a peasant, then you mite think you bought urself some gaming pc, or at least thats what they tell you you bought.

humpmasterflex

Be quiet.

There is no such thing as a GAMING LAPTOP, well unless you are a peasant, then you mite think you bought urself some gaming pc, or at least thats what they tell you you bought.

humpmasterflex

you will always be remembered as a cow.

This thread is full of lol.