Are PS 4 graphics matching upto the standard or even surpassing many PC games?

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Gotta love how every shot of UC4 cows like to brag about, is either a close up of nathan drake, or a zoomed out shot of the vehicle section.

Was watching the game on Twitch last night... even one of antagonists looked incredibly inferior to drake... and the game in normal gameplay is nothing SPECTACULAR.,

I think a big problem with gamers is that they see such small graphic updates over the life of a console... that friggin cutscenes impress them this much... the story is generic and bland as the other uncharteds its literally gamers being impressed by a game that looks slightly more real than 90% of other games. No mention of the gameplay (because there is nothing to mention, beyond smooth animations). Watching the multiplayer is a laughable snooze fest.

Will wait for bargin bin. Then laugh when the game is not mentioned after 2 weeks... other than cows posting photo mode pics of nathan in cutscenes.

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#352  Edited By IgGy621985
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Well, the game does look rather good imho.

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@MBirdy88 said:

Gotta love how every shot of UC4 cows like to brag about, is either a close up of nathan drake, or a zoomed out shot of the vehicle section.

Was watching the game on Twitch last night... even one of antagonists looked incredibly inferior to drake... and the game in normal gameplay is nothing SPECTACULAR.,

I think a big problem with gamers is that they see such small graphic updates over the life of a console... that friggin cutscenes impress them this much... the story is generic and bland as the other uncharteds its literally gamers being impressed by a game that looks slightly more real than 90% of other games. No mention of the gameplay (because there is nothing to mention, beyond smooth animations). Watching the multiplayer is a laughable snooze fest.

Will wait for bargin bin. Then laugh when the game is not mentioned after 2 weeks... other than cows posting photo mode pics of nathan in cutscenes.

Man that 10/10 and perfect review scores on a lot of sites must of really upset you

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@scatteh316 said:
@MBirdy88 said:

Gotta love how every shot of UC4 cows like to brag about, is either a close up of nathan drake, or a zoomed out shot of the vehicle section.

Was watching the game on Twitch last night... even one of antagonists looked incredibly inferior to drake... and the game in normal gameplay is nothing SPECTACULAR.,

I think a big problem with gamers is that they see such small graphic updates over the life of a console... that friggin cutscenes impress them this much... the story is generic and bland as the other uncharteds its literally gamers being impressed by a game that looks slightly more real than 90% of other games. No mention of the gameplay (because there is nothing to mention, beyond smooth animations). Watching the multiplayer is a laughable snooze fest.

Will wait for bargin bin. Then laugh when the game is not mentioned after 2 weeks... other than cows posting photo mode pics of nathan in cutscenes.

Man that 10/10 and perfect review scores on a lot of sites must of really upset you

Why? I could pick it up any time. I'm not limited to the "I have to defend the only system I own" like some.

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@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@howmakewood said:

how many of the good looking ps4 games run on 60fps? other than battlefront

@the_master_race said:

can PS4 run good looking games @60fps ?

Nice damage control. Cant win in graphics so let's quickly change the topic to performance.

It can't even do 1080p, dynamic shadows, RLR reflections, realtime GI and plethora of other effects. By the way, how many dyanmic lights does even UC4 has I'd love to know. :D

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

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If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

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#357  Edited By miiiiv
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@-Unreal- said:

Since a mod decided to close my previous thread, I guess I'll post this in here.

So I've kept away from UC4 to avoid spoilers. I had seen a screenshot of Nathan from ages ago and a glimpse of a .gif of a jeep driving part of the game. But now I've said **** it and went and watched someone play the game. I have it on order for rental so I'll get to see it first hand soon. But the video I watched is of good quality. I've also seen screenshots of the game now too. I've seen headlines written, claiming it as a 'technical masterpiece' and I'm now left wonder why?

The animation of the characters and the motion capture is nice. Excellent even. But everything else looks just good. I'm not comparing it to a game on a high end PC either. I'm keeping in mind it's running on a PS4. But even bearing that in mind, the game looks just as I'd expect a PS4 game to look. Nothing is striking me as a technical masterpiece. Particularly puzzling is the use of this term when it's almost never used by the same people to talk about other games.

It's reminding me of 'The Order 1886' getting overwhelming praise. A linear cooridor shooter with film grain, blur, letterboxed resolution and confined level design. I'm failing to see what's so special about Uncharted 4's graphics. I'd say Uncharted 3's graphics were more impressive for a PS3 game than Uncharted 4's are for a PS4 game.

I suppose this isn't the best board for an honest discussion on something like this though. But then neither is NeoGAF.

edit - oh and that motion blur. It's like 'sparingly' isn't in their vocabulary.

I think UC4 looks really good considering the hardware it's running on. Characters and animations are what really stands out though. Sure there are some compromises in texture filtering, lightning, lod distance, the use of pre-calculated global Illumination etc.

Still looks great for a game running on a tablet cpu with some extra cores and a gimped 7870.

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#358 Shawty_Beatz
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@zergforlife said:
@KillzoneSnake said:

UC4 is the current graphics king...

Even Digital Foundry denied this statement, saying it is only the best looking console title. Gameplay screenshots and videos support their assessment.

There is no way this is graphics king:

Well you guys called this a graphics king for half a decade, sooo...

Do you want me to show you cherry picked shots of other supposedly graphic kings like Crysis2/3 or SC? Because no game looks perfect 100% of the time. Nice try though.

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@howmakewood said:
@scatteh316 said:
@howmakewood said:
@scatteh316 said:

I'm an EX-PC gamers..... was rocking a 5Ghz 3770k and SLI GTX970's that were running a custom BIOS and silly clock speeds..... Everything was water cooled and I played at 2560x1440.

I'm a pure PS4 gamer now and don't miss PC gaming at all.

Perhaps the biggest difference between PS4 and my old PC is the image quality, playing every game with x16 AF and Super Sampling to post FX AA and little texture filtering took some getting used to but in no way shape or form is PC better from an graphics point of view.

The Order 1886 to this day has impressed me more visually then any game I played on my PC..... And it's not actually that blurry in person either.

"sure"

Typical response form a noob tbh...

you are free to prove otherwise

I'd love to see that proof as well. I can't imagine going from such a PC to a PS4 only would be possible for a person with a healthy pair of eyes.

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@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

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@shawty_beatz: it's not my fault that potato box takes blurry shots, gpu king or not that's what is

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Why are you posting a screenshot of an 8 year old game, I didn't know console games were so far behind. XD nah, just kidding.

@shawty_beatz said:
@zergforlife said:
@KillzoneSnake said:

UC4 is the current graphics king...

Even Digital Foundry denied this statement, saying it is only the best looking console title. Gameplay screenshots and videos support their assessment.

There is no way this is graphics king:

Well you guys called this a graphics king for half a decade, sooo...

Do you want me to show you cherry picked shots of other supposedly graphic kings like Crysis2/3 or SC? Because no game looks perfect 100% of the time. Nice try though.

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@MBirdy88 said:

Gotta love how every shot of UC4 cows like to brag about, is either a close up of nathan drake, or a zoomed out shot of the vehicle section.

Was watching the game on Twitch last night... even one of antagonists looked incredibly inferior to drake... and the game in normal gameplay is nothing SPECTACULAR.,

I think a big problem with gamers is that they see such small graphic updates over the life of a console... that friggin cutscenes impress them this much... the story is generic and bland as the other uncharteds its literally gamers being impressed by a game that looks slightly more real than 90% of other games. No mention of the gameplay (because there is nothing to mention, beyond smooth animations). Watching the multiplayer is a laughable snooze fest.

Will wait for bargin bin. Then laugh when the game is not mentioned after 2 weeks... other than cows posting photo mode pics of nathan in cutscenes.

Got to love your bitter tears about this game,is simply out of this world.

This game not only is great looking but is also a great freaking games,you don't like it to bad that is taste and is your opinion which mean totally sh** to any one here but your self.

The attention to detail in this game surpass most PC games out there,and considering that PC has way more power to gallop is even more impressive,you are just butthurt that this games got such incredibly good reception,after all the shit many like you claim about the game.

I think the problem is that you are so bitter about this game looking so freaking incredible that you have to downplay it without anything but shallow arguments and bitter tears.

Will wait for the end of the year when the game gets goty and you get quoted by me highlighting your tears even more...lol

@MBirdy88 said:

Why? I could pick it up any time. I'm not limited to the "I have to defend the only system I own" like some.

You didn't show this level of butthurt for xbox one games,but then again you use to defend the big box that couldn't while hiding behind PC.

I have read for days your bitter tears from work and damn i was like lol it really hit him hard..

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lems are going mental as usual, Uncharted 4 must really sting.

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@tormentos said:
@MBirdy88 said:

Gotta love how every shot of UC4 cows like to brag about, is either a close up of nathan drake, or a zoomed out shot of the vehicle section.

Was watching the game on Twitch last night... even one of antagonists looked incredibly inferior to drake... and the game in normal gameplay is nothing SPECTACULAR.,

I think a big problem with gamers is that they see such small graphic updates over the life of a console... that friggin cutscenes impress them this much... the story is generic and bland as the other uncharteds its literally gamers being impressed by a game that looks slightly more real than 90% of other games. No mention of the gameplay (because there is nothing to mention, beyond smooth animations). Watching the multiplayer is a laughable snooze fest.

Will wait for bargin bin. Then laugh when the game is not mentioned after 2 weeks... other than cows posting photo mode pics of nathan in cutscenes.

Got to love your bitter tears about this game,is simply out of this world.

This game not only is great looking but is also a great freaking games,you don't like it to bad that is taste and is your opinion which mean totally sh** to any one here but your self.

The attention to detail in this game surpass most PC games out there,and considering that PC has way more power to gallop is even more impressive,you are just butthurt that this games got such incredibly good reception,after all the shit many like you claim about the game.

I think the problem is that you are so bitter about this game looking so freaking incredible that you have to downplay it without anything but shallow arguments and bitter tears.

Will wait for the end of the year when the game gets goty and you get quoted by me highlighting your tears even more...lol

@MBirdy88 said:

Why? I could pick it up any time. I'm not limited to the "I have to defend the only system I own" like some.

You didn't show this level of butthurt for xbox one games,but then again you use to defend the big box that couldn't while hiding behind PC.

I have read for days your bitter tears from work and damn i was like lol it really hit him hard..

You are clearly over thinking it.

I said the same thing about TLOU ... I said the same thing about UC3. I mildly enjoyed UC2 at the time. but then you guys criticise other companies for rehashes and depending on franchises to much, yet here we are at Uncharted 5. (including PS Vita game). Now the only enhancement is the visual presentation. which while really good... will not make people play this game beyond its release hype and "shiny attraction" honeymoon period... happened with all 3 other main ones, happened with TLOU. Nothing has changed, its a 10 hour nice thrill, with no legs.

Also, I love how you forget a 10 is a 10 in its genre... now better than every other damn game out because they don't have 10s.

You are like Azatis... you make up these dellusions of me belonging to groups, and ultimately, given the responses I've had the last few days, its more like cows are getting upset that even though they have a 10, people like me are still saying is a shallow game where it will sit on their shelves, and they will go back to fifa, or cod or whatever casual s*it they were playing the week before.... because beyond its presentation it has no substance.... its not hate, its a fact.

I own no Xbox games worth a damn, literally the mrs has used it more as a kinect fitness, and TV watching device than anything.

But yes, keep given yourselves these justifications.

I call a spade a spade, I call a cheap thrill where a "10" doesn't stack up to other genre's 8 or 9s. And come a few weeks time... I will be right, again.

10 hour campaign. I mean Damn, at least Mario Galaxy 2 had some substance... and actually got quite difficult when going for completion and was remotely creative. I dont limit by dislike for these "10s" to Naughty dog though ... 6 hour MGS4 getting a 10 and "best graphics" when clearly it was a blurry muddy brown mess was a complete joke... more proof that critics and casuals rather watch games than play ones with any substance. "Hey it looks like a movie! 10/10!"

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@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Which screenshots are you questioning?

I have seen nothing in this thread that can't be run on today's hardware.

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@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:

Nice damage control. Cant win in graphics so let's quickly change the topic to performance.

It can't even do 1080p, dynamic shadows, RLR reflections, realtime GI and plethora of other effects. By the way, how many dyanmic lights does even UC4 has I'd love to know. :D

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

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Can someone tell me how 1080p direct feeds from PS4 are cherry picked? Can you lower settings on that?

I'm assuming cows are angry I'm not posting cutscene shots?

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@the_master_race said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:

Nice damage control. Cant win in graphics so let's quickly change the topic to performance.

It can't even do 1080p, dynamic shadows, RLR reflections, realtime GI and plethora of other effects. By the way, how many dyanmic lights does even UC4 has I'd love to know. :D

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

I took some some shots 4 u guys , unfortunately PS4 photo-mode sucks ....

Damn, even GTA V looks better than that and that's a massive open world game and that too 'last gen' as cows would say. I told it in 2014 that the only parts where UC4 will look good is either is heavily controlled setpieces or closeup cutscenes. No wonder Naughty Duds have to resort to show close up character models in cutscenes every 2 minutes to distract from the actual in game graphics.

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@MBirdy88 said:

You are clearly over thinking it.

I said the same thing about TLOU ... I said the same thing about UC3. I mildly enjoyed UC2 at the time. but then you guys criticise other companies for rehashes and depending on franchises to much, yet here we are at Uncharted 5. (including PS Vita game). Now the only enhancement is the visual presentation. which while really good... will not make people play this game beyond its release hype and "shiny attraction" honeymoon period... happened with all 3 other main ones, happened with TLOU. Nothing has changed, its a 10 hour nice thrill, with no legs.

Also, I love how you forget a 10 is a 10 in its genre... now better than every other damn game out because they don't have 10s.

You are like Azatis... you make up these dellusions of me belonging to groups, and ultimately, given the responses I've had the last few days, its more like cows are getting upset that even though they have a 10, people like me are still saying is a shallow game where it will sit on their shelves, and they will go back to fifa, or cod or whatever casual s*it they were playing the week before.... because beyond its presentation it has no substance.... its not hate, its a fact.

I own no Xbox games worth a damn, literally the mrs has used it more as a kinect fitness, and TV watching device than anything.

But yes, keep given yourselves these justifications.

I call a spade a spade, I call a cheap thrill where a "10" doesn't stack up to other genre's 8 or 9s. And come a few weeks time... I will be right, again.

10 hour campaign. I mean Damn, at least Mario Galaxy 2 had some substance... and actually got quite difficult when going for completion and was remotely creative. I dont limit by dislike for these "10s" to Naughty dog though ... 6 hour MGS4 getting a 10 and "best graphics" when clearly it was a blurry muddy brown mess was a complete joke... more proof that critics and casuals rather watch games than play ones with any substance. "Hey it looks like a movie! 10/10!"

And you are over reacting you should drop your pathetic hate on what appear to be fantastic game,if this game was on PC you would be sucking it to it,and proclaiming how great the games was but is not on PC.

And this is coming from some one who freaking love Undertale,a fantastic game is a fantastic game no matter were it lies,Undertale is great,Ori and the blind Forest is great,there is no need for damage controls or the need to find pathetic excuses to downplay the games,Ori is an old school platformer and Undertale look like a Snes game.

There are not 5 Uncharted games only 4 and one is a game for Vita,the main console series has seeing 4 games 10 years since the PS3 launched.Just so you can compare there will be 4 Forza game games in 3 years b y then end of this year.

Forza 5,Forza Horizon 2,Forza 6,and Forza Horizon 3

And 3 Halo games since 2010.

I am not counting Halo wars,Halo ODST or the collection,nor the Halo wars 2 coming this year also.

All of this is irrelevant because COD and Assassins creed do it worse and still get good scores,but is even more irrelevant because if the game is great well is great period,the difference here is that Halo is not done by Bungie any more which was the developer of the original series and quality has drop on the game,it has being unable to retain the series shine it use to.

Uncharted on the other hand scored even Higher than Uncharted 3,and is a better game so why should any one downplay it on the fact that is a sequel did you cry about Halo 5 and down play it for a sequel.? I don't think so but then again you have a soft spot for xbox games.

That is funny because TLOU still is being played online not only on PS3 but also on PS4 and surpasses more than 10 million i am sure between both versions after all the PS3 version was like 8 millions in alone.

No i don't i freaking argued with you and you defended the xbox one and i trow it all over you face many times,this is not the first time i point to your double standards and favoritism for the xbox brand,again did you make this argument for Forza or Halo.?

No what you do is downplay a damn game that got 10 because you can't freaking stand it,again your opinion mean sh** to any one but your self,i don't care if you think that Forza 8 is better than Uncharted 10,the way the industry measure quality is by score so irrelevant to Forza being a racer and Uncharted not,the last got a higher score than the first so it is of higher quality regardless of the genre that is in.

Is like people who say QB is not like Uncharted yeah freaking right even the cinematic feel they try to copy and failed period,a game doesn't have to be freaking 5000 hours long to be good a good game is a good game period regardless of being 10 or 100,some games work with long hours of gameplay other doesn't period.

You are just bitter and butthurt..lol

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@zergforlife said:

Can someone tell me how 1080p direct feeds from PS4 are cherry picked? Can you lower settings on that?

I'm assuming cows are angry I'm not posting cutscene shots?

Right. What else can we do when we don't have a PS4 to game capture and take pictures with? I just find what I can on google, and that's what I have to roll with.

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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@zergforlife said:

Can someone tell me how 1080p direct feeds from PS4 are cherry picked? Can you lower settings on that?

I'm assuming cows are angry I'm not posting cutscene shots?

Right. What else can we do when we don't have a PS4 to game capture and take pictures with? I just find what I can on google, and that's what I have to roll with.

The shots I've posted are strictly from PS4 users who have the game and are uploading direct shots with 0 editing done.

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@zergforlife: Even better, then!

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#374 Zergforlife
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Graphics king:

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#375 scatteh316
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

It can't even do 1080p, dynamic shadows, RLR reflections, realtime GI and plethora of other effects. By the way, how many dyanmic lights does even UC4 has I'd love to know. :D

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

Would LOVE to see a picture of your rig and a screen cap of your desk top with you name in Notepad and CPU-Z and GPU-Z open.

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@scatteh316 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

Would LOVE to see a picture of your rig and a screen cap of your desk top with you name in Notepad and CPU-Z and GPU-Z open.

Would love to do all you asked but I'm outta country right now on a project. Will a previously posted screencap work?

Though, wondering how would this disprove anything I said?

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I'm an EX-PC gamers..... was rocking a 5Ghz 3770k and SLI GTX970's that were running a custom BIOS and silly clock speeds..... Everything was water cooled and I played at 2560x1440.

I'm a pure PS4 gamer now and don't miss PC gaming at all.

Perhaps the biggest difference between PS4 and my old PC is the image quality, playing every game with x16 AF and Super Sampling to post FX AA and little texture filtering took some getting used to but in no way shape or form is PC better from an graphics point of view.

The Order 1886 to this day has impressed me more visually then any game I played on my PC..... And it's not actually that blurry in person either.

That reads as if you said "PC has better graphics because of x, y, z but PC definitely doesn't have better graphics"

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This just proves that you don't have the GPU power to play PC games with bull shit level super sampling that is in the PC screen shots here making your argument pointless and void.

@zeeshanhaider said:
@scatteh316 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

Would LOVE to see a picture of your rig and a screen cap of your desk top with you name in Notepad and CPU-Z and GPU-Z open.

Would love to do all you asked but I'm outta country right now on a project. Will a previously posted screencap work?

Though, wondering how would this disprove anything I said?

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#379  Edited By Jereb31
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@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

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#380 Jereb31
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@scatteh316 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:

Well seeing how you can get THIS AAAE/94 on MC for only $300, I can't say I mind. :D

Ewwwwwwwwwww..............is this what cows call graphics king? What year is this 2010?

Besides, we all know PC games were judged with a higher standard as per former GS editor. So an AAAA on consoles is barely A on PC. :P Adding on top of that Sony's on publication awarding it 10/10. Try again.

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

Would LOVE to see a picture of your rig and a screen cap of your desk top with you name in Notepad and CPU-Z and GPU-Z open.

That... that's kind of creepy O_o

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#381  Edited By Jereb31
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@scatteh316 said:

This just proves that you don't have the GPU power to play PC games with bull shit level super sampling that is in the PC screen shots here making your argument pointless and void.

@zeeshanhaider said:
@scatteh316 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@shawty_beatz said:

Sorry bro but your first shot is awfully blurry and both are in 800p, nice try though. Also, please show me all those 2010 games that look better than UC4 and have the same/better tech.

Your eyes must be fucked up with playing too many 900pStation games, not my fault. Oh and I would take the word of Digital Foundry over some random Sony drone any time of the day.

All of which begs the question: could these new consoles run Crysis 3? Ryse delivers the full suite of CryEngine features with excellent image quality and it's still just a launch title. Given the experience of working on such a product, we have little doubt that Crytek could produce a Crysis Trilogyof sorts for next-generation consoles with few compromises.

Would LOVE to see a picture of your rig and a screen cap of your desk top with you name in Notepad and CPU-Z and GPU-Z open.

Would love to do all you asked but I'm outta country right now on a project. Will a previously posted screencap work?

Though, wondering how would this disprove anything I said?

Scatteh316 -> "Oh hwehwehwehwe, I have you now!! Your system that is more powerful than 2 PS4's combined obviously cannot do 4k at 60fps and is therefore invalid. *inner thoughts "F*CK I NAILED it that time"*

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#382  Edited By scatteh316
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@jereb31 said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

Don't post screen shots and brag about graphics that your rig is not capable of playing....... That's like posting a picture of some dudes super hot girl friend and then trying to her pass her off as some thing your ugly ass could get when in reality your girl friend looks like a man.

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@scatteh316 said:

This just proves that you don't have the GPU power to play PC games with bull shit level super sampling that is in the PC screen shots here making your argument pointless and void.

@zeeshanhaider said:

Would love to do all you asked but I'm outta country right now on a project. Will a previously posted screencap work?

Though, wondering how would this disprove anything I said?

My 970 runs circle around the pathetic 900pStation. But the question still remain how does this disprove anything I said? Did it make the cheap ass tablet CPU and 570 level GPU in 900pStation any better or it improved UC4 technically in any way or did it take away anything what Crytek achieved with Crysis 2 in 2011 that Naughty Duds still couldn't do in 2016?

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@scatteh316 said:

@jereb31 said:

@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

Don't post screen shots and brag about graphics that your rig is not capable of playing....... That's like posting a picture of some dudes super hot girl friend and then trying to her pass her off as some thing your ugly ass could get when in reality your girl friend looks like a man.

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#385  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@jereb31 said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

Cows with UC4:

-Framerate don't count

-Resolution don't count

-Multiplats don't count

-Directfeed don't count

-Realtime Shadows and GI don't count

-Lighting don't count

-Scale don't count

-Draw distance don't count

-AA don't count

-AF don't count

-MP don't count

- Only cutscenes with character closeup counts

That's, a lot of don't counts for something cows call an undisputed graphics king.

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#387 Jereb31
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@scatteh316 said:
@jereb31 said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

Don't post screen shots and brag about graphics that your rig is not capable of playing....... That's like posting a picture of some dudes super hot girl friend and then trying to her pass her off as some thing your ugly ass could get when in reality your girl friend looks like a man.

How about I post graphics that PC is capable of otherwise, don't post any pics of any games you don't own as you aren't able to play it, hur dur dur.

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#388  Edited By loe12k
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Ryse, the Order, Tombraider, Uncharted 4 from what i have seen have been the best games graphically on console so far.

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#389 Jereb31
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@scatteh316 said:
@jereb31 said:
@shawty_beatz said:
@scatteh316 said:

If PC gamers are going to show what are in essence screen shots built for just that.. being screens shots then I need to see FRAPS running.

NeoGAF has a PC thread and it's sole purpose for the insane image quality and it simply involves cranking super sampling and all the mods and effects work into over drive purely to take a screen shot, many have said in the threads that at this quality nearly all of the games are unplayable as they're below 30fps.

Now Hermits have a habit of showing off over sampled bull shots of PC games...... SO I would love to see fraps in these shots so that they can prove they're actually taken at PLAYABLE settings..... Any idiot can turn the settings and AA up for a few seconds just to take a screen shot.....

Exactly and these same hermits usually don't even own a high-end gaming PC, they're just googling those images to damage control. Not to mention that those same hermits cry "lolphotomode doesn't count".

So is the argument changing from, PS4 vs PC graphics to PS4 vs what PC I have graphics is it...

Don't post screen shots and brag about graphics that your rig is not capable of playing....... That's like posting a picture of some dudes super hot girl friend and then trying to her pass her off as some thing your ugly ass could get when in reality your girl friend looks like a man.

Wait wait, this means i'm not allowed to say a Ferrari is faster than ford fiesta as I don't own either, amiright HAHAHAH.

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I took some with framerate and HUD.

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E3 version the cut scene for uncharted 4 in my opinion was running on a PC, thats the level PC can deliver. If uncharted 4 was on PC it would be 60fps or higher and running higher resolution with better AA solutions.

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#392  Edited By scatteh316
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Stock Crysis 2 looks shit and dated..... Even modded the lighting looks very dated......

@zeeshanhaider said:
@scatteh316 said:

This just proves that you don't have the GPU power to play PC games with bull shit level super sampling that is in the PC screen shots here making your argument pointless and void.

@zeeshanhaider said:

Would love to do all you asked but I'm outta country right now on a project. Will a previously posted screencap work?

Though, wondering how would this disprove anything I said?

My 970 runs circle around the pathetic 900pStation. But the question still remain how does this disprove anything I said? Did it make the cheap ass tablet CPU and 570 level GPU in 900pStation any better or it improved UC4 technically in any way or did it take away anything what Crytek achieved with Crysis 2 in 2011 that Naughty Duds still couldn't do in 2016?

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@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

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@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

You can get it here: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1174/?

You'll also need the turbo lighting mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/657/?

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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

You can get it here: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1174/?

You'll also need the turbo lighting mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/657/?

Oh dear, you forgot mods don't count either. You're spoiling the developers vision of how the game should look. :p

Apparently Blood and Wine is also coming with a graphics upgrade as well.

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@GarGx1 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

You can get it here: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1174/?

You'll also need the turbo lighting mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/657/?

Oh dear, you forgot mods don't count either. You're spoiling the developers vision of how the game should look. :p

Apparently Blood and Wine is also coming with a graphics upgrade as well.

Is the graphics upgrade only on PC with Blood and Wine or are consoles getting the graphics upgrade as well?

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There's no need to debate about it, PC has several times the capability of PS4 but for the money PS4 hardware can yield some modern aesthetics just fine obviously, it's jut farther and fewer in between. I own a 970gtx/core i7 and until recently had a PS4 as well. Screenshots don't really tell the story from either side but you can easily see the graphics king is PC when actually playing comparisons, AA, tessellation..things like that. Hell even pics of God of War 3 still look pretty darn good considering, but you can see the PS4's limitations quite clearly when actually playing them but still they look and play fine. Yet what I notice more than anything is that in order to get the best graphics from a PS4 or any console for that matter, it takes a good developer several years, a very high budget and a willingness to sell out to being an exclusive to keep from going bankrupt in order to make a game with graphics like UC4. On PC, even an indie developer can create vividly detailed graphics if using a modern engine because they don't have to account for weak hardware by using various coding tricks which is what takes up the bulk of time from these exclusives.

But at the end of this month, I'm buying the 1080gtx, several times more powerful than my 970

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#398  Edited By Zergforlife
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

You can get it here: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1174/?

You'll also need the turbo lighting mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/657/?

Oh dear, you forgot mods don't count either. You're spoiling the developers vision of how the game should look. :p

Apparently Blood and Wine is also coming with a graphics upgrade as well.

Is the graphics upgrade only on PC with Blood and Wine or are consoles getting the graphics upgrade as well?

Probably not for consoles considering they already run pretty bad for W3.

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@zergforlife said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95:

That color pallet looks different and the shadow draw looks longer. What tweaks are you using? (I want them.)

You can get it here: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1174/?

You'll also need the turbo lighting mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/657/?

Oh dear, you forgot mods don't count either. You're spoiling the developers vision of how the game should look. :p

Apparently Blood and Wine is also coming with a graphics upgrade as well.

Is the graphics upgrade only on PC with Blood and Wine or are consoles getting the graphics upgrade as well?

Probably not for consoles considering they already run pretty bad for W3.

That's what I was guessing, but you never know if they found some magic optimization techniques. Lol

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#400 Wizard
Member since 2015 • 940 Posts

@GarGx1: They really need a giant asterisk next to these PC v. PS4 threads.

No 4k, no framerate, texture filtering, AA, no dynamic or actual volumetric lighting, 2k-4k textures, or HBAO.

Just face models?