Are PS 4 graphics matching upto the standard or even surpassing many PC games?

In what world does UC4 beat PC games?

I don't, because I rather play them on 60fps on 1440p, 980ti could run games on 4k with 30fps, but I prefer the smoother experience, too bad consoles dont

Uncharted 4 looks great for the hardware it is running on.

But the reason it looks great is mainly due to art direction.

Most people don't concentrate too much on the background so most of the detail is up close.

If you look at the open areas in the game you will notice the severe lack of detail in objects further away.

I am talking cardboard tree levels of quality.

The draw distance and LOD has always suffered on console hardware.

This is why when people post the best looking screenshots they usually post close ups of the face and in a small area.

While UC4 is a good looking game it is obvious where they had to make cuts visually.

One thing you can easily notice in gameplay that photomode doesn't have is the dithering certain objects like hair or shadows.

But to sum this up I am rather pleased with current visuals in games for the most part although I want to see more of a push for draw distance and LOD which is far more distracting.

Games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate and Unity have awesome close ups but their draw distance and LOD is pretty jarring.

Although increasing draw distance and LOD can be extremely demanding as when forcing settings beyond max in The Witcher results in frame rates around the 40s at 2560x1440 with 2 970s.

@casharmy: that's alot of words for nothing. So not only do you admit that the original reveal was bullshit but you don't disprove my BF comparison.

Good to know.

Also, lol at the other thread at how you disproved SC to me.

This is even funnier when you realize your game originla showing is BS while SC just keeps getting better.

what a dumbass thread.

@RyviusARC said:

Uncharted 4 looks great for the hardware it is running on.

But the reason it looks great is mainly due to art direction.

Most people don't concentrate too much on the background so most of the detail is up close.

If you look at the open areas in the game you will notice the severe lack of detail in objects further away.

I am talking cardboard tree levels of quality.

The draw distance and LOD has always suffered on console hardware.

This is why when people post the best looking screenshots they usually post close ups of the face and in a small area.

While UC4 is a good looking game it is obvious where they had to make cuts visually.

One thing you can easily notice in gameplay that photomode doesn't have is the dithering certain objects like hair or shadows.

But to sum this up I am rather pleased with current visuals in games for the most part although I want to see more of a push for draw distance and LOD which is far more distracting.

Games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate and Unity have awesome close ups but their draw distance and LOD is pretty jarring.

Although increasing draw distance and LOD can be extremely demanding as when forcing settings beyond max in The Witcher results in frame rates around the 40s at 2560x1440 with 2 970s.

SO much wrong in this post. First of all photomode keeps the same quality as gameplay's, they both dither at some places and don't at others. Nothing is enhanced in PM. There are plenty of outdoor areas with long draw distance and more than presentable LOD. Granted they're not as detailed for obvious reason, even PC games suffer from LOD issues too. But You'd be surprised people are more impress with Uc4's sweeping vistas than up close models.

Star Citizen is in it's own league, but other than that, i believe most PC gamers play their games with specs equivalent to current gen consoles (mid/high specs, 1080p, 30/60fps).

Have yet to play Uncharted 4, but going by the vids, it's one of the best looking games on any platform.

@gpuking: why do you keep posting shots that prove UC4 isn't better than many pc maxed out games?

I already posted a foliage comparison with forest maps in the tread.

If you want we can make Tatoine vs Madagascar comparison, but it's not going to go well for you.

Just what games are we comparing here, you hermits can't just pick every multiplatform games and pit them together against one UC4, that's like the most unfair thing ever in a comparison lol. Stick to one PC candidate for overall representation. So is it SC, BattleFront, TW3 or Tomb Raider?

Uncharted 4's graphical design makes the game look absolutely stunning while Star Citizen utilizes high-end effects to achieve that amazing look. One is not better than the other. Enjoy them both for what it is in my opinion. Star Citizen isn't built to be a flashy 5 to 10 hours game with shallow gameplay.

Also looking forward to UC4 tonight at midnight when I play it thanks to the pre-downloading.

Neither is UC4 mate. It's more like a 14-17 hours game rated 10/10 here and 94 meta, hardly shallow;). Oh did I mention it's actually a completed game, when is SC coming out?

@gpuking said:

@RyviusARC said:

Uncharted 4 looks great for the hardware it is running on.

But the reason it looks great is mainly due to art direction.

Most people don't concentrate too much on the background so most of the detail is up close.

If you look at the open areas in the game you will notice the severe lack of detail in objects further away.

I am talking cardboard tree levels of quality.

The draw distance and LOD has always suffered on console hardware.

This is why when people post the best looking screenshots they usually post close ups of the face and in a small area.

While UC4 is a good looking game it is obvious where they had to make cuts visually.

One thing you can easily notice in gameplay that photomode doesn't have is the dithering certain objects like hair or shadows.

But to sum this up I am rather pleased with current visuals in games for the most part although I want to see more of a push for draw distance and LOD which is far more distracting.

Games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate and Unity have awesome close ups but their draw distance and LOD is pretty jarring.

Although increasing draw distance and LOD can be extremely demanding as when forcing settings beyond max in The Witcher results in frame rates around the 40s at 2560x1440 with 2 970s.

SO much wrong in this post. First of all photomode keeps the same quality as gameplay's, they both dither at some places and don't at others. Nothing is enhanced in PM. There are plenty of outdoor areas with long draw distance and more than presentable LOD. Granted they're not as detailed for obvious reason, even PC games suffer from LOD issues too. But You'd be surprised people are more impress with Uc4's sweeping vistas than up close models.

PS4 is known to suffer heavily from draw distance and LOD.

And resolution can help a lot with showing more detail.

Keep in mind I didn't say UC4 looked bad just that if it was on PC it would get rid of some of the draw backs suck as lower draw distance, LOD and pop in.

This post sums it up pretty good. UC4 looks great, especially considering the hardware it's running on. When you run games on a tablet cpu with some extra cores and a gimped 7870 there will be obvious compromises.

they will never match high spec pc graphics

Shallow gameplay isn't the same as the amount of content a game has. What does uncharted offers in terms of gameplay compared to star citizen?

@RyviusARC said:

@gpuking said:

@RyviusARC said:

Uncharted 4 looks great for the hardware it is running on.

But the reason it looks great is mainly due to art direction.

Most people don't concentrate too much on the background so most of the detail is up close.

If you look at the open areas in the game you will notice the severe lack of detail in objects further away.

I am talking cardboard tree levels of quality.

The draw distance and LOD has always suffered on console hardware.

This is why when people post the best looking screenshots they usually post close ups of the face and in a small area.

While UC4 is a good looking game it is obvious where they had to make cuts visually.

One thing you can easily notice in gameplay that photomode doesn't have is the dithering certain objects like hair or shadows.

But to sum this up I am rather pleased with current visuals in games for the most part although I want to see more of a push for draw distance and LOD which is far more distracting.

Games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate and Unity have awesome close ups but their draw distance and LOD is pretty jarring.

Although increasing draw distance and LOD can be extremely demanding as when forcing settings beyond max in The Witcher results in frame rates around the 40s at 2560x1440 with 2 970s.

SO much wrong in this post. First of all photomode keeps the same quality as gameplay's, they both dither at some places and don't at others. Nothing is enhanced in PM. There are plenty of outdoor areas with long draw distance and more than presentable LOD. Granted they're not as detailed for obvious reason, even PC games suffer from LOD issues too. But You'd be surprised people are more impress with Uc4's sweeping vistas than up close models.

PS4 is known to suffer heavily from draw distance and LOD.

And resolution can help a lot with showing more detail.

Keep in mind I didn't say UC4 looked bad just that if it was on PC it would get rid of some of the draw backs suck as lower draw distance, LOD and pop in.

In an open world sure, but UC4's distant shadow LOD is pretty much the same as TW3 PC version's so in this instance you can't rate down UC4's LOD bias, just other open world multiplatforms. Also being an exclusive helps to optimize the engine even further so the LOD wouldn't be nearly as severe as a multiplat.

I've been gaming for over 30 years, I build /buy a pc when I feel like it, but the last 8 years I have been primarly playing on a console but that doesn't mean I didn' play on the pc. I build like 5 game pc's since 2010. I sold my last one last year, because I didn't feel the need that have one at that time. I don't feel the need to have one right now either, not a beast pc anyway, my pc now is comparable to the consoles in power and very power friendly.

I might build one again because of the new cards nvidia will release, and because of the release of the virtuix omni.

but what does that have to do with it anyway, the question was.

Are PS 4 graphics matching upto the standard or even surpassing many PC games?

no they don't, the difference in hardware power is just too much.

Who says UC4 only has content? But what good is a complex series of gameplay when they're not exciting or enjoyable to play? Gameplay comparison belongs to a different thread but you're not trying to downplay UC4's visual due to gameplay now are you?

No, I only responded to your comment, beside I already know that uncharted 4 has nothing in terms of visuals in comparison to other titles.

@gpuking: why can't we compare multiple games? You compare every ps4 exclusive to SC.

But i've only compared BF so far.

Switching to SQ42 only makes it worse

Of course it looks better than anything on PC. Best looking games on PC are literally Xbox 360 ports like that new Tomb Raider game.

I mean look at League of Legends. That's the most popular game on PC and it looks like shit. Hermits act like they care about graphics but they obviously don't.

@locopatho said:

I suppose a game like Cuphead gets a 0 for graphics, because it looks nothing like reality?

Cuphead gets a 0 for graphics because of that chromatic aberration

It's still cool but just whyyyyyy do devs use CA, damn hipster devs I tell you :P

Pfft weaksauce consoles are weak.

Now that will change when MS launches the 10TF upgradable Xbox Won. Forza Horizon 3 graphics king baby. :P

Er, I didn't include KZSF, Infamous, DriveClub or Until Dawn when I was comparing The Order to SC now did I? It's always been a one on one fight. It's like you're using BattleFront's forest in a statement that would somehow give SC an advantage in foliage rendering which is absurd lol. But speaking of foliage here's some for you. I don't think Endor level even has grass lol.

Uncharted 4 is 900p 60 frames multiplayer how can it match PC? The single player can only hit 30 frames.

@gpuking: you keep claiming each new ps4 exclusive is gfx king, all the time. get off it.

And those pics literally prove my point. Battlefront looks better in terms of foliage.

@deadline-zero0 said:

@gpuking: you keep claiming each new ps4 exclusive is gfx king, all the time. get off it.

And those pics literally prove my point. Battlefront looks better in terms of foliage.

BF has some high res textures but there's hardly any grass thus saving tons resources on alpha maps. They are also not as dynamic as UC4's, the lack of volumetric lighting doesn't help either. You can easily see more depth in UC4's foliage.

lol

Cows gonna cow. They can dish it out but not take it. Typical.

When someone calls out the PS4 for not performing as well as the PC, all the excuses come out and eveyones a lem. They act like it's unfair, taboo and pointless.

'News at 10, $2000 PC more powerful than 2013 console'.

'bu bu it's about teh games'

'I don't care about 60fps'

Why challenge the PC and act like bitches when challenged back?

Don't bother with him. He has no idea what most graphical features like volumetric lighting or dynamic shadows do. Hell he probably doesn't even know what a texture is. I exposed him a few months ago in a Star Citizen thread. Didn't know what something basic like volumetric lighting was. I mean he claims "lack of volumetric lighting" when it is right in the picture you posted lol.

@gpuking: hardly any grass.....................................riiiiight

Also funny because according to DF, Uncharted 4 uses a pseudo-volumetric lighting solution and not actually a full volumetric one. The game also suffers from low resolution shadows(its weak point), 4X Anisotropic filtering, has worse hair effects than Tomb Raider, worst textures and features pre-calculated Global Illumination(a game like Crysis 3 released over 3 years ago had 3rd generation real-time global illumination).

The game still looks gorgeous but there were several compromises.

@Juub1990: shhh, that doesn't matter. best gfx of all time. Naughty Gods, etc

I own both..the most irrelevant console to own is an xbox one since PC gets more than half their major exclusives

What are you saying that Uncharted 4 isn't fantastic looking game? That's a bit strange for one of the faithful.

Love all those flat low res textures.

Your damage control at this point is pathetic, just admit it's a graphical marvel for consoles and go about your day.

They are low res and flat? What am I saying that's not fact here?

Nope.

I really have hit a nerve there, bud.

So you've never played Uncharted 4 either, we're on equal footing there. However the PC game screenshots I posted are all my very own, which gives me, at least, a base to argue from. I'm not entirely basing my view on screenshots and compressed YouTube videos. As I've explained before I much prefer to post my own screenshots instead of pulling them off Google, that way I give a true representation of how I play games, instead of going with the "this what PC can do but I can't" thing.

Lol, you're worse than Tormental with the fakeboy and lemming accusations. please quote me being biased towards Xbox One, at anytime, ever. It's true that I rarely agree with the faithful but I'm certainly not an Xbot. In fact, I must be the strangest Lemming on this site seeing as I do not own an Xbox One (I never will either and way MS are going with the App Store I'll never buy another game from that shit hole either) yet I do own a PS4. Yes I am just as biased as you are but my bias is towards PC. Now would you kindly stop with the insults, they're counterintuitive to a healthy discussion.

I will indeed play UC4, it appears to be the best in the series, it all depends when I can fit it in around Stellaris and Total War: Warhammer but I guess it's only a ten hour play through so I may get it for the weekend, or I might wait until later in the year, haven't decided yet. I don't feel like I'm missing much anyway with games coming out that are much more to my taste.

Anyway I'm off to play Stellaris. Have fun.

@dynamitecop:

They are identical.. read the reviews. You posting a pic from a further Lod with motion blur doesn't change that. Such a pathetic attempt.

UC4's Grass during gameplay (Cows are posting photomodes btw)

UC4 is the best looking console game from technical perspective as said by the experts at Digital Foundry.

And DF >>>>>>>>> anyone on this forum.

No need to make yourselves look stupid.

UC4's obviously more impressive than PC games.

Thanks for the info :)

@gpuking said:

@RyviusARC said:

@gpuking said:

@RyviusARC said:

Uncharted 4 looks great for the hardware it is running on.

But the reason it looks great is mainly due to art direction.

Most people don't concentrate too much on the background so most of the detail is up close.

If you look at the open areas in the game you will notice the severe lack of detail in objects further away.

I am talking cardboard tree levels of quality.

The draw distance and LOD has always suffered on console hardware.

This is why when people post the best looking screenshots they usually post close ups of the face and in a small area.

While UC4 is a good looking game it is obvious where they had to make cuts visually.

One thing you can easily notice in gameplay that photomode doesn't have is the dithering certain objects like hair or shadows.

But to sum this up I am rather pleased with current visuals in games for the most part although I want to see more of a push for draw distance and LOD which is far more distracting.

Games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate and Unity have awesome close ups but their draw distance and LOD is pretty jarring.

Although increasing draw distance and LOD can be extremely demanding as when forcing settings beyond max in The Witcher results in frame rates around the 40s at 2560x1440 with 2 970s.

SO much wrong in this post. First of all photomode keeps the same quality as gameplay's, they both dither at some places and don't at others. Nothing is enhanced in PM. There are plenty of outdoor areas with long draw distance and more than presentable LOD. Granted they're not as detailed for obvious reason, even PC games suffer from LOD issues too. But You'd be surprised people are more impress with Uc4's sweeping vistas than up close models.

PS4 is known to suffer heavily from draw distance and LOD.

And resolution can help a lot with showing more detail.

Keep in mind I didn't say UC4 looked bad just that if it was on PC it would get rid of some of the draw backs suck as lower draw distance, LOD and pop in.

In an open world sure, but UC4's distant shadow LOD is pretty much the same as TW3 PC version's so in this instance you can't rate down UC4's LOD bias, just other open world multiplatforms. Also being an exclusive helps to optimize the engine even further so the LOD wouldn't be nearly as severe as a multiplat.

Witcher's draw distance/ LOD is pretty horrendous. You even get light sources popping up 10-20 feet infront of you in some cases, Even mods don't fix it.

Wrong, http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/949/?

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@gpuking said:

@RyviusARC said:

@gpuking said:

SO much wrong in this post. First of all photomode keeps the same quality as gameplay's, they both dither at some places and don't at others. Nothing is enhanced in PM. There are plenty of outdoor areas with long draw distance and more than presentable LOD. Granted they're not as detailed for obvious reason, even PC games suffer from LOD issues too. But You'd be surprised people are more impress with Uc4's sweeping vistas than up close models.

PS4 is known to suffer heavily from draw distance and LOD.

And resolution can help a lot with showing more detail.

Keep in mind I didn't say UC4 looked bad just that if it was on PC it would get rid of some of the draw backs suck as lower draw distance, LOD and pop in.

In an open world sure, but UC4's distant shadow LOD is pretty much the same as TW3 PC version's so in this instance you can't rate down UC4's LOD bias, just other open world multiplatforms. Also being an exclusive helps to optimize the engine even further so the LOD wouldn't be nearly as severe as a multiplat.

Witcher's draw distance/ LOD is pretty horrendous. You even get light sources popping up 10-20 feet infront of you in some cases, Even mods don't fix it.

Other games have that same issue with light sources.

I'd say the draw distance in The Witcher 3 is rather good. I notice very little of pop in with the latest patch and some config tweaks.

Maybe your PC is having issues.