Yeah, you should get a PS4 like the almost everyone else is. Have to teach MS a lesson.
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]360 offers many of the most difficult games released this gen (tho all shmups). here's a list of the difficult ones [spoiler] mushihimesama hd mushihimesama futari ketsui dodonpachi daifukkatsu black label dodonpachi saidaioujou pink sweets muchi muchi pork espgaluda II [/spoiler] first person in the world 1CCed futari 1.01 ultra this month (game was released in 2006 on 360)not to mention zatsuza in before they're easy because you credit feed in before arcadegameslol in before shmupslol the rush of making the top 25 leaderboards is intensely awesome, especially while competing worldwide to become the next superplayer to be paid/employed by CAVE.i don't think anything could have made my point about how easy gaming has become better than by showing us a collection of bullet hell games that could have been quarter munchers 20 years ago if you didn't look at how great the resolution is.lol, core gamers.
there were about 3 hard games total last gen and 2 of them were on wii.
you guys need to get your definitions of things straight because playing the easy ass shyt that has been 99.9% of the last gen is not what i would call hardcore.
Some-Mist
So much this. I'm still finding great games. I got Grid for a few bucks on the xboxlive sale and its one of the best racers I've played (except for the drifting bits since I suck and need to figure out how to do it).Backlogged on current systems. Find it hard to believe you people play this much.
brennanhuff
This post is a concentrated nugget of truth that truthfully dictates the TRUE value of gaming to the one playing. Ive attempted to bring this up in the past but system wars only likes the metagame. Fact is that no two gamers game alike and thus no person can dictate the true worth of a console/platform... my xbox has been stuffed like a thanksgiving turkey since day 1 yet to sone short sighted folk, it has no games. Doesnt make sense.Backlogged on current systems. Find it hard to believe you people play this much.
brennanhuff
my god i wrote "truth" alot :P
I was down on the whole idea of the PS4 until I realized I want to play the exclusives like Killzone 4. I'm sure when they show off some badass games I'll be pre-ordering a NextBox like a good little consumer. Not because I think the specs are going to trump my PC, but because they hold some of my beloved franchizes hostage. It's about the games you want to play. Wait until they make an announcement before going off on Microsoft. At the end of the day, it's all about playing what you want to play.donalbanesir, logic, common sense, and maturity the likes of which your post makes has no place here in System Wars :) But yeah, I agree, lol
This post is a concentrated nugget of truth that truthfully dictates the TRUE value of gaming to the one playing. Ive attempted to bring this up in the past but system wars only likes the metagame. Fact is that no two gamers game alike and thus no person can dictate the true worth of a console/platform... my xbox has been stuffed like a thanksgiving turkey since day 1 yet to sone short sighted folk, it has no games. Doesnt make sense.[QUOTE="brennanhuff"]
Backlogged on current systems. Find it hard to believe you people play this much.
TheEroica
my god i wrote "truth" alot :P
#truth, #freedom and #legendary Live, Learn and Love the Sony way.What I don't understand is how people didn't see this coming from a company that's been doing this for decades.
Get some market share > change market so you have to pay more > change market so you pay for things you don't even want or already pay for
Think about it... they've always done this.
360 offers many of the most difficult games released this gen (tho all shmups). here's a list of the difficult ones [spoiler] mushihimesama hd mushihimesama futari ketsui dodonpachi daifukkatsu black label dodonpachi saidaioujou pink sweets muchi muchi pork espgaluda II [/spoiler] first person in the world 1CCed futari 1.01 ultra this month (game was released in 2006 on 360)not to mention zatsuza in before they're easy because you credit feed in before arcadegameslol in before shmupslol the rush of making the top 25 leaderboards is intensely awesome, especially while competing worldwide to become the next superplayer to be paid/employed by CAVE.i don't think anything could have made my point about how easy gaming has become better than by showing us a collection of bullet hell games that could have been quarter munchers 20 years ago if you didn't look at how great the resolution is.sure, they could've been seen as quarter crunchers 20 years ago (in before arcadegameslol) and it's one of the only genres to maintain and even push it's difficulty and competitive nature over the years (in before shmupslol), but your point (according to your original post) was that there were about 3 hard games total last gen and 2 were on the Wii. Posting a bunch of extremely difficult and competitive bullet hell shooters released between 2006 and 2012 exclusively to the 360 pretty much invalidated your point. and assuming you're referring to la-mulana.. it looks like it's from 20 years ago too[spoiler] [/spoiler] but that doesn't take away from how awesome of a game it is.[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
lol, core gamers.
there were about 3 hard games total last gen and 2 of them were on wii.
you guys need to get your definitions of things straight because playing the easy ass shyt that has been 99.9% of the last gen is not what i would call hardcore.
Riverwolf007
Hypocrites much? That is one of the worse comparisons I've ever read. One's a stationary object while the other is mobile. Of course you'd expect them to do different things.Unlike Cows and b!tches, I am actually gonna wait til they release some info before crying about it.
If you are wanting exclusives (Kinect and XBLA don't count I guess) than you might as well go get PS4. Microsoft is an American company. If a game does not sale well such as Alan Wake or Deadlight they are gonna port it to PC to get the profit back. If a game does better than expected like Fez or Fable then again......port it to PC and make a little extra.
Microsoft does not care about the exclusive label. They are gonna put games on Microsoft platforms. Nintendo has strted to do it with the Wii / Wii U and 3DS. Sony is starting to do it with PS3 / PS4 and Vita.
Funny- In the last few years Microsoft has had as many exclusives as the Wii. But only Microsoft gets flack for it. Microsoft has more actually but we don't count Kinect games (for a reason I suppose) or XBLA games even though XBLA are some of the better games released this gen.
Microsoft is not gonna be stupid like Sony. They are not gonna destroy the company to make 100 people in a game forum that won't buy their exclusives anyways happy. Funny- Everyone wants their phone to do 100 different things but when a console does it people cry. Hypcrites much?
timbers_WSU
no way im leaveing MS bros cant wait for kinectimals now with iguanas and joyride 2 now with monster truck and happy elmo seasme street land 3 rise of oscar the grouch, such amazing games ill be playing for year to come thanks MS for always makeing sure i have amazing hardcore games to play :roll:
Hmm, whilst Wii was getting nothing, PS3 was getting SSBB & MKR clones and 360 got Halo 4 & Forza Horizon with Gears J coming soon so I dunno, seems fairly core in comparison to the others. :o :P
SecretPolice
Oh, so you only take into account one year? Now if you want to count Gears J then you must also count Ni No Kuni, TLOU, GoW:A and Behond:TS
Nice try though
Why would I make my call on anything at this point with niether of the consoles being released, no real price point, no officially wording on what it will or will not do besides a bunch of rumor mill articles. Just enough with this garbage. Wait until they announce what it will do.
Microsoft sucks, fact, but I won't claim loyalty to anything.
If MS puts out decent product I want to use, I might get it.
Right now it's Playstation time for me.
I hope MS can get it together. If not, will be able to save my money by buying one console next gen.
Not just yet but MS needs to step their game up. I want more core games, new IPs and less Kinect games.
it took you this many years of getting plowed in the ass by M$ to realize this?
damn you like getting abused
it took you this many years of getting plowed in the ass by M$ to realize this?
damn you like getting abused
OldSnakePS3
LOL
Look. Only time will tell what MS is up to. My feeling is that MS is not stupid, and the alst couple years of this gen they have been slacking, but all of this is in prep for the 720. Most of their partners and studios have not been making games probably because they are working on next gen titles. MS is also not dumping money on the 360 because they can put it toward a) research and development of the 720, and b) selling the console at a loss to make a better price point.
All of this is speculation but MS has been ahead of the curve in many respects in the past and I don't think they will pass up an open opportunity at first place.
EDIT: As far as jumping ship goes if the 720 blocks used games OR has to be always online I'll stick with my PC this generation.
Same with me, the 360 was looking good in the first half of its life, with console exclusives like Mass Effect, Halo, Gears, Forza, Banjo, and of course the multiplats seemed to have less trouble on the 360 too. But now I think I'll just stick with the PS4 next gen, I'm dissapointed in Halo, Gears is done for me, even being a die-hard Forza fan might not be enough for me to stay since even that franchise feels like its stagnating a bit.
why is it the folks that make claims like I've about given up on said system have never been seen before on system wars dedicated to that system they are supposedly giving up on.
The difference here is that those extra things the ps3 and 360 do the pc does a bazillion times better all the way around. So do the phones. I owned a Vita at one point, and the social aspect of the thing was just plain garbage. The music and video player, while adequate, are not as loud as the players in my Note 2. Also, my Note 2 is so far beyond the Vita in terms of social networking that it makes the Vita look like a joke. Now social networking as far as gaming goes is a different story altogether. XBOX Live and PSN were made for that sort of thing, Live even more so. It's just that youtube, hulu, and netflix are better off away from the big three so the big three can do what they do the best, or are supposed to do the best, and that's providing great games.Unlike Cows and b!tches, I am actually gonna wait til they release some info before crying about it.
If you are wanting exclusives (Kinect and XBLA don't count I guess) than you might as well go get PS4. Microsoft is an American company. If a game does not sale well such as Alan Wake or Deadlight they are gonna port it to PC to get the profit back. If a game does better than expected like Fez or Fable then again......port it to PC and make a little extra.
Microsoft does not care about the exclusive label. They are gonna put games on Microsoft platforms. Nintendo has strted to do it with the Wii / Wii U and 3DS. Sony is starting to do it with PS3 / PS4 and Vita.
Funny- In the last few years Microsoft has had as many exclusives as the Wii. But only Microsoft gets flack for it. Microsoft has more actually but we don't count Kinect games (for a reason I suppose) or XBLA games even though XBLA are some of the better games released this gen.
Microsoft is not gonna be stupid like Sony. They are not gonna destroy the company to make 100 people in a game forum that won't buy their exclusives anyways happy. Funny- Everyone wants their phone to do 100 different things but when a console does it people cry. Hypcrites much?
timbers_WSU
why is it the folks that make claims like I've about given up on said system have never been seen before on system wars dedicated to that system they are supposedly giving up on.
WilliamRLBaker
There are a ton of people who have never been anything but negative to everthing MS, people who hold them to unreachable standards, these people pretend to give them a chance, but in reality will never ever ever support them. You are right with that statement.
At the same time I am (was) a huge Xbox fan, the last few years have not been kind, at best they have been good but completely unsuprising. I hate the focus on Kinect, If they make that a huge cornerstone of the durango I have trouble beliving that MS will have a console as great sounding as the PS4 (which is being marketed as a system built for gamers and developers).
Not exactly an XBOX hardcore player (i was around 2003-2011). I own both PS3 and 360, but this time I'm going more practical and minimal this generation. And PS4 seems a more logical choice for "core" games, imo. However, I'm not buying one at launch.
That being said, I've had enough of the XBOX platform because of their Kinect-focus strategy, TV-Multimedia focus strategy, lack of Exclusive New IPs, and I honestly find NO VALUE in XBLG. It's a big waste of money. How any gamer pays for this annually, even at discount prices, is way beyond me.
I prefer variety and I see it happening with PS4 (already seen it with PS3). Hell, even Nintendo offers more on the table than MS. Sony seems more encouraging towards developers for game development than MS, as I see it. I don't know why MS has shifted their market or why they refuse to build on new IPs or exclusives, they have enough resources to do so. And at this point it's quite disconcerting in seeing where they are going into Generation 8.
this seems to be a common trend in how 360 fans feelNot exactly an XBOX hardcore player (i was around 2003-2011). I own both PS3 and 360, but this time I'm going more practical and minimal this generation. And PS4 seems a more logical choice for "core" games, imo. However, I'm not buying one at launch.
That being said, I've had enough of the XBOX platform because of their Kinect-focus strategy, TV-Multimedia focus strategy, lack of Exclusive New IPs, and I honestly find NO VALUE in XBLG. It's a big waste of money. How any gamer pays for this annually, even at discount prices, is way beyond me.
I prefer variety and I see it happening with PS4 (already seen it with PS3). Hell, even Nintendo offers more on the table than MS. Sony seems more encouraging towards developers for game development than MS, as I see it. I don't know why MS has shifted their market or why they refuse to build on new IPs or exclusives, they have enough resources to do so. And at this point it's quite disconcerting in seeing where they are going into Generation 8.
KingsofQueens
Less Kinect games? I highly doubt that, Microsoft is making a killing off Kinect so theyre not gonna just drop it, It looks like the future of the Kinectbox 720 is more sesame street and Kinectimals, Nothing more.Not just yet but MS needs to step their game up. I want more core games, new IPs and less Kinect games.
HaloPimp978
Although the word never appears in your post; this has rhetorical written all over it. :Pwhy is it the folks that make claims like I've about given up on said system have never been seen before on system wars dedicated to that system they are supposedly giving up on.
WilliamRLBaker
for me, the $100 WIFI adapter MS sold for 360 was enough to make me switch to Playstation 3, since WIFI was free
for me, the $100 WIFI adapter MS sold for 360 was enough to make me switch to Playstation 3, since WIFI was free
drakekratos
*looks at username*
I will pretty much always buy all consoles, even the WiiU will end up in my house because of games like Mario/Metroid/Zelda.
I will probably start off with the next Xbox as I did with the 360 as my first console this gen (I have 2 now)
I purchased my PS3 when God of War III came out then continued to enjoy the rest of the PS3 library.
Games like Gears of War, God of War, Halo (not so much for me), Uncharted is what drives me to buy all systems. As for multiplats I buy them on the system that runs them better, I don't care which one it is. I sure would have hated to buy a game like Skyrim on PS3, but some games are best on PC (my primary system) anyways.
I think next-gen you will see a lot more Xbox users switching to PS4 than vice versadrakekratosI just don't see that happening. People tend to like what they have already as they've invested time and money in certain games and systems. I expect a knock down drag out fight between Sony and MS with no clear winner for years to come except us gamers who will reap the benefits of their battle. I'm sticking with MS myself. Can't say I have heard one of my four buds say they are getting a PS4. Of course thats only four people, lol :)
[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]this seems to be a common trend in how 360 fans feel And yet you are judging everything by rumors only. Black Tusk is a MS first party working on a new game., They will no doubt, as its their business model, pay for a couple of third part exclusives. And until they show their hand you just don't know what they will do. I don't care what they do with Kinect so long as I get some new IPs and some updates to my favs Halo/Gears/Forza/Fable and all my fav multiplats. Hey, at the end of the day it juts seems like you want to go in a different direction no matter what MS does and that's your right. But at least take a wait and see approach., IMO.Not exactly an XBOX hardcore player (i was around 2003-2011). I own both PS3 and 360, but this time I'm going more practical and minimal this generation. And PS4 seems a more logical choice for "core" games, imo. However, I'm not buying one at launch.
That being said, I've had enough of the XBOX platform because of their Kinect-focus strategy, TV-Multimedia focus strategy, lack of Exclusive New IPs, and I honestly find NO VALUE in XBLG. It's a big waste of money. How any gamer pays for this annually, even at discount prices, is way beyond me.
I prefer variety and I see it happening with PS4 (already seen it with PS3). Hell, even Nintendo offers more on the table than MS. Sony seems more encouraging towards developers for game development than MS, as I see it. I don't know why MS has shifted their market or why they refuse to build on new IPs or exclusives, they have enough resources to do so. And at this point it's quite disconcerting in seeing where they are going into Generation 8.
drakekratos
[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]this seems to be a common trend in how 360 fans feel And yet you are judging everything by rumors only. Black Tusk is a MS first party working on a new game., They will no doubt, as its their business model, pay for a couple of third part exclusives. And until they show their hand you just don't know what they will do. I don't care what they do with Kinect so long as I get some new IPs and some updates to my favs Halo/Gears/Forza/Fable and all my fav multiplats. Hey, at the end of the day it juts seems like you want to go in a different direction no matter what MS does and that's your right. But at least take a wait and see approach., IMO. Black Tusk? Never heard of em.Not exactly an XBOX hardcore player (i was around 2003-2011). I own both PS3 and 360, but this time I'm going more practical and minimal this generation. And PS4 seems a more logical choice for "core" games, imo. However, I'm not buying one at launch.
That being said, I've had enough of the XBOX platform because of their Kinect-focus strategy, TV-Multimedia focus strategy, lack of Exclusive New IPs, and I honestly find NO VALUE in XBLG. It's a big waste of money. How any gamer pays for this annually, even at discount prices, is way beyond me.
I prefer variety and I see it happening with PS4 (already seen it with PS3). Hell, even Nintendo offers more on the table than MS. Sony seems more encouraging towards developers for game development than MS, as I see it. I don't know why MS has shifted their market or why they refuse to build on new IPs or exclusives, they have enough resources to do so. And at this point it's quite disconcerting in seeing where they are going into Generation 8.
shawn30
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] this seems to be a common trend in how 360 fans feeldrakekratosAnd yet you are judging everything by rumors only. Black Tusk is a MS first party working on a new game., They will no doubt, as its their business model, pay for a couple of third part exclusives. And until they show their hand you just don't know what they will do. I don't care what they do with Kinect so long as I get some new IPs and some updates to my favs Halo/Gears/Forza/Fable and all my fav multiplats. Hey, at the end of the day it juts seems like you want to go in a different direction no matter what MS does and that's your right. But at least take a wait and see approach., IMO. Black Tusk? Never heard of em.
They're the ones that made........ummmmm........ They also had some input in ........... ahhhhhhh......, yeah who the F are Black Tusk?
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