are there still any juice left for the xbox360??
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an[QUOTE="Sins-of-Mosin"]Just Cause 2 looks just as good as Uncharted 2. I'll take Gears of War 2 over that MGS4 movie any day. The Xbox 360 has plenty of power left to show off. I don't know if you noticed but a lot of games are stunning in visuals. Both exclusives and multi-platforms so this whole judge by visuals isn't much a factor now as many games can argue for the title. It's all in the gameplay now.bbsteven26and mario kart look as good as gt 5
No, but the Gears2 looks better than MGS4 part is correct. Only KZ2 and U2 on PS3 look better than it.
[QUOTE="mike4realz"]sure its got some juice left...it's selling its games pretty wellbbsteven26
so you play with sales number or quality of the game?
Hypocrite. Why are YOU the one talking about "quality of the game" when your entire first post was focused on only graphics?
Say what you want about Halo Reach, but years from now people will still be playing it (just like Halo 2). Killzone 2 was an online graveyard within 6-8 months in comparison. So keep it up with these graphics threads.
[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]
[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]
It's always possible...maybe some extra code to make certain GPU or CPU perform better.
For example, in the PS3 it has that 8th idle SPE. Rumor has it that Sony may be unlocking it to work with MOVE. That may or may not happen, but it is entirely possible and plausible.
Persistantthug
that's optimization tho, not more power
ie: people who put hoodscoops or spoilers on their cars doesn't make the car faster or give the engine more horsepower
Unlocking that 8th SPE would indeed quality as "more power".
Yeah, but that has always been there, developers just couldn't use it. I am pretty sure it will be for the 3D crap though.[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
8th SPU CANT be "unlocked".Its there so that if one stops working that one can take the "job".Its just your imagination...it neve happened in history something like this but cows are so desperate to leave 360 behind that they even have sweet dreams about this.
And yea BTW,IF by some magician from Sony it could get unlocked that would be its 7th spu cus one serves the purpose for OS.
Bus-A-Bus
The 8th (idle) SPE was locked to increase yields ratios in the early days of the Cells manufacturing for PS3. That was long ago now.
If a developer such as Naughty Dog, Sony's top flight developer, asked Sony to use that 8th SPE for UNCHARTED 3, to help push the game to 1080p, for example....Sony would do it without even blinking.
That's what good DEV. MANAGERS do for their artists....something Sony has decades of experience with.
I dont think you understand what you are talking about.MAYBE just MAYBE even you have one spu not working properly so that one that was locked will "replace" not working one.If they made game using locked yields game would not work on many ps3 cus many of them have one spu not working,thats the whole story and thats why its impossible.
Bus-A-Bus,
I know exactly what I'm talking about
In the PlayStation 3, one SPE is locked-out during the test process, a practice which helps to improve manufacturing yields, and another one is reserved for the OS, leaving 6 free SPEs to be used by games' code.
In case you aren't quite understanding, Sony was having a percentage of chips where all 8 SPE's weren't working, but since the chips were expensive to make and supply was short 4-5 years ago, they only required 7 SPE's to work. So to this day, there is a small and dwindling percentage of working PS3's that have a 90nm CELL where 1 of the 8 SPE's literally don't work.
Are you understanding now?
I see lots of delusional xbots saying GeoW 2 and Just Cause 2 are on par with what the PS3 has Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain. This year claims about SC: Conviction, Alan Fake and Hahoo: Reach will take over the graphix crown the outcome well.. we got 2 sub-hd (with robot facial and movement animations) and 1 good looking game. Now the counter from the lem's "but Crysis 2 and Rage are the best looking games on consoles" but what they fail to realize is that those games are not due till next year and will not look identical. PS3 has shown that it is capable of producing the best visuals the 360 not so much. So my question to the lems is why after all these years do you all think Crysis 2 will look identical to the PS3's version?
Keep in mind while answering that question that Final Fantasy was supposed to look identical as well and look how that turned out.
I dont think it really needs to pump out the best graphics in order for it to continue being great. Lord knows the PS2 was lacking graphically, but it ended up being the most successful game console ever.
I see lots of delusional xbots saying GeoW 2 and Just Cause 2 are on par with what the PS3 has Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain. This year claims about SC: Conviction, Alan Fake and Hahoo: Reach will take over the graphix crown the outcome well.. we got 2 sub-hd (with robot facial and movement animations) and 1 good looking game. Now the counter from the lem's "but Crysis 2 and Rage are the best looking games on consoles" but what they fail to realize is that those games are not due till next year and will not look identical. PS3 has shown that it is capable of producing the best visuals the 360 not so much. So my question to the lems is why after all these years do you all think Crysis 2 will look identical to the PS3's version?
Keep in mind while answering that question that Final Fantasy was supposed to look identical as well and look how that turned out.
mRiGhTbAcKaTyOu
Halo: Reach also renders at a sub-HD res.
the ps3 has been dominate and i favor the ps3 but can we wait until after e3 before we have this discussion?
360 still has far more quality games than PS3. Graphycs wise PS3 wins by a small margin with 2 games (KZ2 and Uncharted2) but it´s not more powerfull. Both equally capable.
PAL360
As far as games coming out now, Id say there about even, maybe even favoring PS3 more. But yeah, over all 360 does still have a bit more better games because it came out earlier.
360 still has far more quality games than PS3. Graphycs wise PS3 wins by a small margin with 2 games (KZ2 and Uncharted2) but it´s not more powerfull. Both equally capable.
PAL360
Yes, the PS3 is more powerful.
XBOX 360 can barely do 720p native with its 2010 retail exclusives, let alone 1080p. PS3 is doing that with some of its games. As we get further along, more and more games will also be rendered native 1080p.
There's a reason that 4 1/2 years has passed and the XBOX 360's graphics aren't up to PS3 standards......powerwise, it's inferior to the PS3.
People should stop lying to themselves about it....seriously.
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
360 still has far more quality games than PS3. Graphycs wise PS3 wins by a small margin with 2 games (KZ2 and Uncharted2) but it´s not more powerfull. Both equally capable.
Persistantthug
Yes, the PS3 is more powerful.
XBOX 360 can barely do 720p native with its 2010 retail exclusives, let alone 1080p. PS3 is doing that with some of its games. As we get further along, more and more games will also be rendered native 1080p.
There's a reason that 4 1/2 years has passed and the XBOX 360's graphics aren't up to PS3 standards......powerwise, it's inferior to the PS3.
People should stop lying to themselves about it....seriously.
Wow and the funniest thing is you believe all that.
While i wont argue that the PS3 is slightly more powerful than the 360, its the devs and built from the ground up engines that are the secret to PS3's graphical superiority.
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
360 still has far more quality games than PS3. Graphycs wise PS3 wins by a small margin with 2 games (KZ2 and Uncharted2) but it´s not more powerfull. Both equally capable.
Yes, the PS3 is more powerful.
XBOX 360 can barely do 720p native with its 2010 retail exclusives, let alone 1080p. PS3 is doing that with some of its games. As we get further along, more and more games will also be rendered native 1080p.
There's a reason that 4 1/2 years has passed and the XBOX 360's graphics aren't up to PS3 standards......powerwise, it's inferior to the PS3.
People should stop lying to themselves about it....seriously.
alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution.[QUOTE="mike4realz"]sure its got some juice left...it's selling its games pretty wellbbsteven26
so you play with sales number or quality of the game?
Do you play games based on Graphics or the quality of the game?
Games get better looking as the generation progresses, regardless of platform. That's how it usually goes.
What does it really matter since the best looking 360 games look better than 99% of PS3 games.
[QUOTE="mike4realz"]sure its got some juice left...it's selling its games pretty wellbbsteven26
so you play with sales number or quality of the game?
Gameplay is the biggest part in quality of a game
Gameplay>Graphics.
KillZone has way better graphics then Halo. So what?
Didn't do squat for lasting appeal and fun compared to Halo.
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
360 still has far more quality games than PS3. Graphycs wise PS3 wins by a small margin with 2 games (KZ2 and Uncharted2) but it´s not more powerfull. Both equally capable.
Yes, the PS3 is more powerful.
XBOX 360 can barely do 720p native with its 2010 retail exclusives, let alone 1080p. PS3 is doing that with some of its games. As we get further along, more and more games will also be rendered native 1080p.
There's a reason that 4 1/2 years has passed and the XBOX 360's graphics aren't up to PS3 standards......powerwise, it's inferior to the PS3.
People should stop lying to themselves about it....seriously.
alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution. What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="Persistantthug"]alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution. What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?Yes, the PS3 is more powerful.
XBOX 360 can barely do 720p native with its 2010 retail exclusives, let alone 1080p. PS3 is doing that with some of its games. As we get further along, more and more games will also be rendered native 1080p.
There's a reason that 4 1/2 years has passed and the XBOX 360's graphics aren't up to PS3 standards......powerwise, it's inferior to the PS3.
People should stop lying to themselves about it....seriously.
Floppy_Jim
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mayceV"] alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution.Bus-A-Bus
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
Wasnt there a big back and forth about which looked better UC or GeoW at that time ?
What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mayceV"] alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution.Bus-A-Bus
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
I'll go with that. Not sure if I'm believing the hype around Crysis' graphics.
i thought the x360 was over after gears 2 ..... but AW proved me wrong, the difference isn't massive but it's was ok .... the point is the par now is even higher and it may take some time for the x360 to go beyond that.
Crysis2, Rage will be perfect to see how thing will go, but i think they are overhyped, based on Crysis 2 trailer, it was nothing special, and Rage is ???????? ... i don't know what they are recieving their hype for !!!!!!
after GOW3, Sony doesn't have any upcoming super games except GT5 .... we shall wait in E3 ...... the truth shall free us all (lemmings and cow).
i thought the x360 was over after gears 2 ..... but AW proved me wrong, the difference isn't massive but it's was ok .... the point is the par now is even higher and it may take some time for the x360 to go beyond that.
Crysis2, Rage will be perfect to see how thing will go, but i think they are overhyped, based on Crysis 2 trailer, it was nothing special, and Rage is ???????? ... i don't know what they are recieving their hype for !!!!!!
after GOW3, Sony doesn't have any upcoming super games except GT5 .... we shall wait in E3 ...... the truth shall free us all (lemmings and cow).
2mrw
Well its pretty evident,you know,when EVERY SINGLE preview states Crysis 2 and RAGE have some of if not the best graphics they ever seen.I mean,those two(Id and Crytek)were always at the top with pushing the system and technical expertise so i would not really doubt that,especially after so many positive things people said about them.I NEVER have seen any game,be it UC2,Gears 2,GOW III or even KZ2 get so much hype and praise for their graphics.And yea,have in mind that while those studios are extremely talented they also have best tech in the world bar none.
What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mayceV"] alright lets use your "logic" The Ps3 was weaker than the 360 up until Kz2, the 360 had the graphics king in 05, 06 , 07 08, then lost it in 09. for four years the Ps3 was inferior to the 360 until a sudden spark o magic happened and it suddenly more powerful. the 360 isn't pushed as far as the Ps3. on a tech standard they are on the same level, the Ps3 might be slightly more powerful but its nothing to claim ownage about. Its funny cows accepted they were on the same tech level a while back now they come back around with a disproved theory claiming revolution.Bus-A-Bus
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
Rage is open world/60FPS, no? I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not impressed with Crysis 2 so far either but the final product should be amazing.[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?Floppy_Jim
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
Rage is open world/60FPS, no? I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not impressed with Crysis 2 so far either but the final product should be amazing.Well...yea its open but it uses some different techniques for textures(megatextures) which dont require ram,they are streamed from disk so no more low res textures like in other open world games,they are super hi res.Crytek is sure they have the best looking game in their hands and i have no reason not to believe them or Id,they said so,their past speaks for themselves and previews went crazy when they showed the game.Here are all the previews from other day,RAGE previews(pay attention that alot of them say extra crisp environments).
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/04/brinks-wedgwood-rage-is-probably-one-of-the-best-looking-games-i've-ever-seen/
"id Tech5 is ideally suited to that, and if you've seen it, you know it's beautiful, it's absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the best-looking games that I've ever seen."
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/rage/preview-2320.html
"And what do we see? Well, perhaps the best-looking video game of all time."
"Gearbox Software's Borderlands is a decent enough reference point. Like Borderlands, RAGE is a quasi open world post-apocalyptic FPS set in a sci-fi Wild West - all deep south accents and heavy guitar twangs. But there the similarities end, because in visual terms, RAGE blows Borderlands, and almost every other game, out of the water."
"The devil is in the detail, and the detail is fuelled by id's next-generation game engine id Tech 5. Tim begins his demo out in the wasteland, just looking around. The searing desert sun burns deep shadows on red rock. Textures buzz with detail*. Shrubs sway in the wind. Water pools reflect RAGE's virtual world with crystal clarity. And the frame rate... oh, the frame rate. RAGE's world is not photo-realistic, but it is so colourful, vibrant and smooth that it seems beyond real."
*Thats what i like to hear for console game.
"The first thing that springs to mind during these initial encounters is how stunningly detailed Rage looks – crisp and smooth, id are showing the game for the first time on Xbox 360, rather than the high-end PC used in previous demos. "For us technology is key, and gameplay is key," explains Willits "With id Tech 5 we've been able to create a uniquely textured world. Gone are the days of these space corridors with the same textures over and over again – areas you get bored with because you've seen them time and time again." In reality, even Rage's mundane rocky outcrops look handcrafted, and later on, settlements add a splash of colour as well as a graphic novel quality to proceedings. The engine really needs to be seen running to appreciate how accomplished it is - we were assured Rage was running at 720p on the Xbox 360, with 60 frames per second the target across all platforms."
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/previews/xbox-360/985/rage?o=1#listing
"RAGE is a gorgeous game. The Xbox 360 version of id's post-apocalyptic shooter, running at 60 frames per second, stunned at a recent Bethesda event, and removed any doubts as to whether the idTech 5 engine would hold up nearly three years after the game's unveiling."
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/rage-id-game-preview/
"Instead he just fires up Rage, created with the new id Tech 5. The game is at least a year away from release, but visually, it's almost flawless. Textures are busy with detail and eye-wateringly clean. Lighting is sharp. And the game runs fast, seldom if ever dipping so much as a toe below the 60-frames-per-second watermark, even when Willits jumps in a dune buggy and begins pelting across the landscape at extreme speed."
"And here's the thing: the Rage demo is not running on some obscene high-end PC, but a regular Xbox 360. "John Carmack just loves to get things running as fast as humanly possible," Willits says casually. No kidding. The legendary coder's black magic mojo clearly hasn't left him yet, and the purchase of id by Bethesda's parent company ZeniMax Media is making more sense every frame-packed second."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rage-may-2010-preview
"During this time, all I could do was sit back and marvel at the graphics. Rage is easily one of the best looking games I've seen, even with the entirety of 2010 left as development time for id to further polish it. The crazy part? The demo was shown on an Xbox 360"
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1087379p1.html
"This is running in real-time? On a 360? Right now? What? That's not typical over-eager preview hyperbole – those were my actual thoughts while id's Tim Willits and Matt Hooper walked me and a gaggle of press through some early moments in Rage."
"I knew it was going to look spectacular. It's id. It's the developer that, as they put it, "invented first-person shooters," and Rage is their Next Big Thing. It is very big - id Tech 5 renders environments and animations like you've never seen in a game, with unparalleled fluidity and expressiveness."
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/rage/preview/yet-another-rage-preview-more-minds-blown/a-2010050314203399014/g-200708061214094073
All that and running at 60fps in open world game???Id is still one of top dogs when it comes to graphics.
[QUOTE="2mrw"]
i thought the x360 was over after gears 2 ..... but AW proved me wrong, the difference isn't massive but it's was ok .... the point is the par now is even higher and it may take some time for the x360 to go beyond that.
Crysis2, Rage will be perfect to see how thing will go, but i think they are overhyped, based on Crysis 2 trailer, it was nothing special, and Rage is ???????? ... i don't know what they are recieving their hype for !!!!!!
after GOW3, Sony doesn't have any upcoming super games except GT5 .... we shall wait in E3 ...... the truth shall free us all (lemmings and cow).
Well its pretty evident,you know,when EVERY SINGLE preview states Crysis 2 and RAGE have some of if not the best graphics they ever seen.I mean,those two(Id and Crytek)were always at the top with pushing the system and technical expertise so i would not really doubt that,especially after so many positive things people said about them.I NEVER have seen any game,be it UC2,Gears 2,GOW III or even KZ2 get so much hype and praise for their graphics.And yea,have in mind that while those studios are extremely talented they also have best tech in the world bar none.
Crysis 2 gets its hype mainly from Crysis 1, and that's on PC, consoles are different story. Rage has a single trailer, dun know so much about it, wether it was PC version or not .......... previews dun mean anything, unless you have an actul gameplay...... seeing is believing.What did it have in 2007 to beat Uncharted?Floppy_Jim
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
Rage is open world/60FPS, no? I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not impressed with Crysis 2 so far either but the final product should be amazing. do you still buy this crap ??? AW was hyped for the samething, open world my as* ...... look at the final product, the game is linear. ..... driving some car around doesn't mean the game is sandbox or open world.Rage is open world/60FPS, no? I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not impressed with Crysis 2 so far either but the final product should be amazing.[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
It had nothing,but thats exactly the point.UC1 came and was the best looking but Gears 2 then came year later and looked better,then cam KZ2 UC and GOW III in very short time and all of the sudden cows act like nothing can beat those.Crysis 2,Rage and even Gears 3 will probably beat those games,as will new ps3 exclusives...
Bus-A-Bus
Well...yea its open but it uses some different techniques for textures(megatextures) which dont require ram,they are streamed from disk so no more low res textures like in other open world games,they are super hi res.Crytek is sure they have the best looking game in their hands and i have no reason not to believe them or Id,they said so,their past speaks for themselves and previews went crazy when they showed the game.Here are all the previews from other day,RAGE previews(pay attention that alot of them say extra crisp environments).
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/04/brinks-wedgwood-rage-is-probably-one-of-the-best-looking-games-i've-ever-seen/
"id Tech5 is ideally suited to that, and if you've seen it, you know it's beautiful, it's absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the best-looking games that I've ever seen."
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/rage/preview-2320.html
"And what do we see? Well, perhaps the best-looking video game of all time."
"Gearbox Software's Borderlands is a decent enough reference point. Like Borderlands, RAGE is a quasi open world post-apocalyptic FPS set in a sci-fi Wild West - all deep south accents and heavy guitar twangs. But there the similarities end, because in visual terms, RAGE blows Borderlands, and almost every other game, out of the water."
"The devil is in the detail, and the detail is fuelled by id's next-generation game engine id Tech 5. Tim begins his demo out in the wasteland, just looking around. The searing desert sun burns deep shadows on red rock. Textures buzz with detail*. Shrubs sway in the wind. Water pools reflect RAGE's virtual world with crystal clarity. And the frame rate... oh, the frame rate. RAGE's world is not photo-realistic, but it is so colourful, vibrant and smooth that it seems beyond real."
*Thats what i like to hear for console game.
"The first thing that springs to mind during these initial encounters is how stunningly detailed Rage looks – crisp and smooth, id are showing the game for the first time on Xbox 360, rather than the high-end PC used in previous demos. "For us technology is key, and gameplay is key," explains Willits "With id Tech 5 we've been able to create a uniquely textured world. Gone are the days of these space corridors with the same textures over and over again – areas you get bored with because you've seen them time and time again." In reality, even Rage's mundane rocky outcrops look handcrafted, and later on, settlements add a splash of colour as well as a graphic novel quality to proceedings. The engine really needs to be seen running to appreciate how accomplished it is - we were assured Rage was running at 720p on the Xbox 360, with 60 frames per second the target across all platforms."
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/previews/xbox-360/985/rage?o=1#listing
"RAGE is a gorgeous game. The Xbox 360 version of id's post-apocalyptic shooter, running at 60 frames per second, stunned at a recent Bethesda event, and removed any doubts as to whether the idTech 5 engine would hold up nearly three years after the game's unveiling."
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/rage-id-game-preview/
"Instead he just fires up Rage, created with the new id Tech 5. The game is at least a year away from release, but visually, it's almost flawless. Textures are busy with detail and eye-wateringly clean. Lighting is sharp. And the game runs fast, seldom if ever dipping so much as a toe below the 60-frames-per-second watermark, even when Willits jumps in a dune buggy and begins pelting across the landscape at extreme speed."
"And here's the thing: the Rage demo is not running on some obscene high-end PC, but a regular Xbox 360. "John Carmack just loves to get things running as fast as humanly possible," Willits says casually. No kidding. The legendary coder's black magic mojo clearly hasn't left him yet, and the purchase of id by Bethesda's parent company ZeniMax Media is making more sense every frame-packed second."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rage-may-2010-preview
"During this time, all I could do was sit back and marvel at the graphics. Rage is easily one of the best looking games I've seen, even with the entirety of 2010 left as development time for id to further polish it. The crazy part? The demo was shown on an Xbox 360"
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1087379p1.html
"This is running in real-time? On a 360? Right now? What? That's not typical over-eager preview hyperbole – those were my actual thoughts while id's Tim Willits and Matt Hooper walked me and a gaggle of press through some early moments in Rage."
"I knew it was going to look spectacular. It's id. It's the developer that, as they put it, "invented first-person shooters," and Rage is their Next Big Thing. It is very big - id Tech 5 renders environments and animations like you've never seen in a game, with unparalleled fluidity and expressiveness."
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/rage/preview/yet-another-rage-preview-more-minds-blown/a-2010050314203399014/g-200708061214094073
All that and running at 60fps in open world game???Id is still one of top dogs when it comes to graphics.
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="2mrw"]
i thought the x360 was over after gears 2 ..... but AW proved me wrong, the difference isn't massive but it's was ok .... the point is the par now is even higher and it may take some time for the x360 to go beyond that.
Crysis2, Rage will be perfect to see how thing will go, but i think they are overhyped, based on Crysis 2 trailer, it was nothing special, and Rage is ???????? ... i don't know what they are recieving their hype for !!!!!!
after GOW3, Sony doesn't have any upcoming super games except GT5 .... we shall wait in E3 ...... the truth shall free us all (lemmings and cow).
2mrw
Well its pretty evident,you know,when EVERY SINGLE preview states Crysis 2 and RAGE have some of if not the best graphics they ever seen.I mean,those two(Id and Crytek)were always at the top with pushing the system and technical expertise so i would not really doubt that,especially after so many positive things people said about them.I NEVER have seen any game,be it UC2,Gears 2,GOW III or even KZ2 get so much hype and praise for their graphics.And yea,have in mind that while those studios are extremely talented they also have best tech in the world bar none.
Crysis 2 gets its hype mainly from Crysis 1, and that's on PC, consoles are different story. Rage has a single trailer, dun know so much about it, wether it was PC version or not .......... previews dun mean anything, unless you have an actul gameplay...... seeing is believing.Crysis 2 gets the hype because its devs are hyping its CONSOLE gfx to heavens,and previewers(people like you and me,no reason not to believe them)that saw pre alpha console real time gameplay were in awe,same goes for RAGE.And its not ordinary:"Game looks great","Game is beautiful"...its pretty much this"Best looking game of all time","Best looking console game","Most beautiful game..."its some serious praise.Plus the fact that both games are done by people who are industry leaders when it comes to gfx technology and one of them invented 3d graphics in games clearly says something.
if by any 'juice left' you mean quality titles coming up, then its a big YES... surely there are some great upcoming exclusive titles for 360... Let devs worry how they can optimise their game engines / improve their technical abilities or knowledge in order to release better looking titles...
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Rage is open world/60FPS, no? I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not impressed with Crysis 2 so far either but the final product should be amazing.TintedEyes
Well...yea its open but it uses some different techniques for textures(megatextures) which dont require ram,they are streamed from disk so no more low res textures like in other open world games,they are super hi res.Crytek is sure they have the best looking game in their hands and i have no reason not to believe them or Id,they said so,their past speaks for themselves and previews went crazy when they showed the game.Here are all the previews from other day,RAGE previews(pay attention that alot of them say extra crisp environments).
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/04/brinks-wedgwood-rage-is-probably-one-of-the-best-looking-games-i've-ever-seen/
"id Tech5 is ideally suited to that, and if you've seen it, you know it's beautiful, it's absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the best-looking games that I've ever seen."
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/rage/preview-2320.html
"And what do we see? Well, perhaps the best-looking video game of all time."
"Gearbox Software's Borderlands is a decent enough reference point. Like Borderlands, RAGE is a quasi open world post-apocalyptic FPS set in a sci-fi Wild West - all deep south accents and heavy guitar twangs. But there the similarities end, because in visual terms, RAGE blows Borderlands, and almost every other game, out of the water."
"The devil is in the detail, and the detail is fuelled by id's next-generation game engine id Tech 5. Tim begins his demo out in the wasteland, just looking around. The searing desert sun burns deep shadows on red rock. Textures buzz with detail*. Shrubs sway in the wind. Water pools reflect RAGE's virtual world with crystal clarity. And the frame rate... oh, the frame rate. RAGE's world is not photo-realistic, but it is so colourful, vibrant and smooth that it seems beyond real."
*Thats what i like to hear for console game.
"The first thing that springs to mind during these initial encounters is how stunningly detailed Rage looks – crisp and smooth, id are showing the game for the first time on Xbox 360, rather than the high-end PC used in previous demos. "For us technology is key, and gameplay is key," explains Willits "With id Tech 5 we've been able to create a uniquely textured world. Gone are the days of these space corridors with the same textures over and over again – areas you get bored with because you've seen them time and time again." In reality, even Rage's mundane rocky outcrops look handcrafted, and later on, settlements add a splash of colour as well as a graphic novel quality to proceedings. The engine really needs to be seen running to appreciate how accomplished it is - we were assured Rage was running at 720p on the Xbox 360, with 60 frames per second the target across all platforms."
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/previews/xbox-360/985/rage?o=1#listing
"RAGE is a gorgeous game. The Xbox 360 version of id's post-apocalyptic shooter, running at 60 frames per second, stunned at a recent Bethesda event, and removed any doubts as to whether the idTech 5 engine would hold up nearly three years after the game's unveiling."
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/rage-id-game-preview/
"Instead he just fires up Rage, created with the new id Tech 5. The game is at least a year away from release, but visually, it's almost flawless. Textures are busy with detail and eye-wateringly clean. Lighting is sharp. And the game runs fast, seldom if ever dipping so much as a toe below the 60-frames-per-second watermark, even when Willits jumps in a dune buggy and begins pelting across the landscape at extreme speed."
"And here's the thing: the Rage demo is not running on some obscene high-end PC, but a regular Xbox 360. "John Carmack just loves to get things running as fast as humanly possible," Willits says casually. No kidding. The legendary coder's black magic mojo clearly hasn't left him yet, and the purchase of id by Bethesda's parent company ZeniMax Media is making more sense every frame-packed second."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rage-may-2010-preview
"During this time, all I could do was sit back and marvel at the graphics. Rage is easily one of the best looking games I've seen, even with the entirety of 2010 left as development time for id to further polish it. The crazy part? The demo was shown on an Xbox 360"
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1087379p1.html
"This is running in real-time? On a 360? Right now? What? That's not typical over-eager preview hyperbole – those were my actual thoughts while id's Tim Willits and Matt Hooper walked me and a gaggle of press through some early moments in Rage."
"I knew it was going to look spectacular. It's id. It's the developer that, as they put it, "invented first-person shooters," and Rage is their Next Big Thing. It is very big - id Tech 5 renders environments and animations like you've never seen in a game, with unparalleled fluidity and expressiveness."
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/rage/preview/yet-another-rage-preview-more-minds-blown/a-2010050314203399014/g-200708061214094073
All that and running at 60fps in open world game???Id is still one of top dogs when it comes to graphics.
LOL.AW?It had one translated spanish/danish(dont know exactly) preview which said it looks as good as UC2,but RAGE and Crysis 2 were ALWAYS hyped to be next big things and they are done by the best developers in business as far as tech goes.
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Bus-A-Bus
^Ah, someone who uses links :P Now if it truly is "open world" and tops linear graphical powerhouse like KZ, Uncharted, Gears and whatnot then sure, that's amazing. New graphics king, etc. I'd just be cautious with my optimism.
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
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Floppy_Jim
^Ah, someone who uses links :P Now if it truly is "open world" and tops linear graphical powerhouse like KZ, Uncharted, Gears and whatnot then sure, that's amazing. New graphics king, etc. I'd just be cautious with my optimism.
Im not really saying it will be gfx king,my bet would be that it will be on par with todays best looking games,same with Crysis 2,its just "proof" that there will be more great looking games for 360 as it will be also for ps3.I mean some people act butthurth because they are scared their exclusive games will be surpassed by games that they can ALSO play on their syste :roll:
ID have always been PC first, rage and doom 4 will be decent on consoles, but the PC version will obliterate the console versions in terms of graphics
crytek talk too much imo, crysis was poorly optimized just like metro 2033, ill be LOling my head off when rage runs at 60fps and has better graphics then crysis and has less system requirements.
[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
Well its pretty evident,you know,when EVERY SINGLE preview states Crysis 2 and RAGE have some of if not the best graphics they ever seen.I mean,those two(Id and Crytek)were always at the top with pushing the system and technical expertise so i would not really doubt that,especially after so many positive things people said about them.I NEVER have seen any game,be it UC2,Gears 2,GOW III or even KZ2 get so much hype and praise for their graphics.And yea,have in mind that while those studios are extremely talented they also have best tech in the world bar none.
Crysis 2 gets its hype mainly from Crysis 1, and that's on PC, consoles are different story. Rage has a single trailer, dun know so much about it, wether it was PC version or not .......... previews dun mean anything, unless you have an actul gameplay...... seeing is believing.Crysis 2 gets the hype because its devs are hyping its CONSOLE gfx to heavens,and previewers(people like you and me,no reason not to believe them)that saw pre alpha console real time gameplay were in awe,same goes for RAGE.And its not ordinary:"Game looks great","Game is beautiful"...its pretty much this"Best looking game of all time","Best looking console game","Most beautiful game..."its some serious praise.Plus the fact that both games are done by people who are industry leaders when it comes to gfx technology and one of them invented 3d graphics in games clearly says something.
plzzz, spare me the hype ..... every game can be hyped to heaven, especially by its dev. , not to mention Crytech and id are depending on their reputations to market their games, and lets' not forget they are mainly PC dev, any idiot can make gfx kings when working on PC, Can you imagine how U2 or GOW3 will look like if they were made for PC???? the games would be beautiful but i need to see with my eyes to judge our new gfx king on consoles.
Wow you fall for all that? Didn't AW get the same treatment?[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
Well...yea its open but it uses some different techniques for textures(megatextures) which dont require ram,they are streamed from disk so no more low res textures like in other open world games,they are super hi res.Crytek is sure they have the best looking game in their hands and i have no reason not to believe them or Id,they said so,their past speaks for themselves and previews went crazy when they showed the game.Here are all the previews from other day,RAGE previews(pay attention that alot of them say extra crisp environments).
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/04/brinks-wedgwood-rage-is-probably-one-of-the-best-looking-games-i've-ever-seen/
"id Tech5 is ideally suited to that, and if you've seen it, you know it's beautiful, it's absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the best-looking games that I've ever seen."
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/rage/preview-2320.html
"And what do we see? Well, perhaps the best-looking video game of all time."
"Gearbox Software's Borderlands is a decent enough reference point. Like Borderlands, RAGE is a quasi open world post-apocalyptic FPS set in a sci-fi Wild West - all deep south accents and heavy guitar twangs. But there the similarities end, because in visual terms, RAGE blows Borderlands, and almost every other game, out of the water."
"The devil is in the detail, and the detail is fuelled by id's next-generation game engine id Tech 5. Tim begins his demo out in the wasteland, just looking around. The searing desert sun burns deep shadows on red rock. Textures buzz with detail*. Shrubs sway in the wind. Water pools reflect RAGE's virtual world with crystal clarity. And the frame rate... oh, the frame rate. RAGE's world is not photo-realistic, but it is so colourful, vibrant and smooth that it seems beyond real."
*Thats what i like to hear for console game.
"The first thing that springs to mind during these initial encounters is how stunningly detailed Rage looks – crisp and smooth, id are showing the game for the first time on Xbox 360, rather than the high-end PC used in previous demos. "For us technology is key, and gameplay is key," explains Willits "With id Tech 5 we've been able to create a uniquely textured world. Gone are the days of these space corridors with the same textures over and over again – areas you get bored with because you've seen them time and time again." In reality, even Rage's mundane rocky outcrops look handcrafted, and later on, settlements add a splash of colour as well as a graphic novel quality to proceedings. The engine really needs to be seen running to appreciate how accomplished it is - we were assured Rage was running at 720p on the Xbox 360, with 60 frames per second the target across all platforms."
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/previews/xbox-360/985/rage?o=1#listing
"RAGE is a gorgeous game. The Xbox 360 version of id's post-apocalyptic shooter, running at 60 frames per second, stunned at a recent Bethesda event, and removed any doubts as to whether the idTech 5 engine would hold up nearly three years after the game's unveiling."
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/rage-id-game-preview/
"Instead he just fires up Rage, created with the new id Tech 5. The game is at least a year away from release, but visually, it's almost flawless. Textures are busy with detail and eye-wateringly clean. Lighting is sharp. And the game runs fast, seldom if ever dipping so much as a toe below the 60-frames-per-second watermark, even when Willits jumps in a dune buggy and begins pelting across the landscape at extreme speed."
"And here's the thing: the Rage demo is not running on some obscene high-end PC, but a regular Xbox 360. "John Carmack just loves to get things running as fast as humanly possible," Willits says casually. No kidding. The legendary coder's black magic mojo clearly hasn't left him yet, and the purchase of id by Bethesda's parent company ZeniMax Media is making more sense every frame-packed second."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rage-may-2010-preview
"During this time, all I could do was sit back and marvel at the graphics. Rage is easily one of the best looking games I've seen, even with the entirety of 2010 left as development time for id to further polish it. The crazy part? The demo was shown on an Xbox 360"
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1087379p1.html
"This is running in real-time? On a 360? Right now? What? That's not typical over-eager preview hyperbole – those were my actual thoughts while id's Tim Willits and Matt Hooper walked me and a gaggle of press through some early moments in Rage."
"I knew it was going to look spectacular. It's id. It's the developer that, as they put it, "invented first-person shooters," and Rage is their Next Big Thing. It is very big - id Tech 5 renders environments and animations like you've never seen in a game, with unparalleled fluidity and expressiveness."
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/rage/preview/yet-another-rage-preview-more-minds-blown/a-2010050314203399014/g-200708061214094073
All that and running at 60fps in open world game???Id is still one of top dogs when it comes to graphics.Bus-A-Bus
LOL.AW?It had one translated spanish/danish(dont know exactly) preview which said it looks as good as UC2,but RAGE and Crysis 2 were ALWAYS hyped to be next big things and they are done by the best developers in business as far as tech goes.
crytek made 2 unoptimized benchmarking games (farcry and crysis) they are not talented by any means. also they attack other games too much, LOL halo has a bad story lolz
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
Not just any juice but rather the high octane juice known as Alan Wake & Reach. :P
Kokuro_Kun
Don't forget Crackdown 2. ;)
Come on man. Without the Halo 3 beta this game would be toast. And without the uncharted 2 beta there would be no infamous, see i can do that too.[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="2mrw"] Crysis 2 gets its hype mainly from Crysis 1, and that's on PC, consoles are different story. Rage has a single trailer, dun know so much about it, wether it was PC version or not .......... previews dun mean anything, unless you have an actul gameplay...... seeing is believing.2mrw
Crysis 2 gets the hype because its devs are hyping its CONSOLE gfx to heavens,and previewers(people like you and me,no reason not to believe them)that saw pre alpha console real time gameplay were in awe,same goes for RAGE.And its not ordinary:"Game looks great","Game is beautiful"...its pretty much this"Best looking game of all time","Best looking console game","Most beautiful game..."its some serious praise.Plus the fact that both games are done by people who are industry leaders when it comes to gfx technology and one of them invented 3d graphics in games clearly says something.
plzzz, spare me the hype ..... every game can be hyped to heaven, especially by its dev. , not to mention Crytech and id are depending on their reputations to market their games, and lets' not forget they are mainly PC dev, any idiot can make gfx kings when working on PC, Can you imagine how U2 or GOW3 will look like if they were made for PC???? the games would be beautiful but i need to see with my eyes to judge our new gfx king on consoles.Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
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[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
Crysis 2 gets the hype because its devs are hyping its CONSOLE gfx to heavens,and previewers(people like you and me,no reason not to believe them)that saw pre alpha console real time gameplay were in awe,same goes for RAGE.And its not ordinary:"Game looks great","Game is beautiful"...its pretty much this"Best looking game of all time","Best looking console game","Most beautiful game..."its some serious praise.Plus the fact that both games are done by people who are industry leaders when it comes to gfx technology and one of them invented 3d graphics in games clearly says something.
plzzz, spare me the hype ..... every game can be hyped to heaven, especially by its dev. , not to mention Crytech and id are depending on their reputations to market their games, and lets' not forget they are mainly PC dev, any idiot can make gfx kings when working on PC, Can you imagine how U2 or GOW3 will look like if they were made for PC???? the games would be beautiful but i need to see with my eyes to judge our new gfx king on consoles.Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="2mrw"] plzzz, spare me the hype ..... every game can be hyped to heaven, especially by its dev. , not to mention Crytech and id are depending on their reputations to market their games, and lets' not forget they are mainly PC dev, any idiot can make gfx kings when working on PC, Can you imagine how U2 or GOW3 will look like if they were made for PC???? the games would be beautiful but i need to see with my eyes to judge our new gfx king on consoles.2mrw
Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .Well ok...i remember when HHG came and said"Yo,new build of GOW III looks *salve of praising*) and the WHOLE SW got nuts just because well known fanboy seen the new build,and he was the ONLY ONE that said it.This time you have much more PROFESSIONAL writers saying the same thing...
Crytek and Id are the technically the best developers in the world,they make the most advanced engines and the games and their games set benchmarks.All i know is Crysis 2 even on consoles uses things other devs could not dream about:real time GI,destructible environments,procedural deformation...and all that in game that supposedly looks breathtaking.
[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .Well ok...i remember when HHG came and said"Yo,new build of GOW III looks *salve of praising*) and the WHOLE SW got nuts just because well known fanboy seen the new build,and he was the ONLY ONE that said it.This time you have much more PROFESSIONAL writers saying the same thing...
Crytek and Id are the technically the best developers in the world,they make the most advanced engines and the games and their games set benchmarks.All i know is Crysis 2 even on consoles uses things other devs could not dream about:real time GI,destructible environments,procedural deformation...and all that in game that supposedly looks breathtaking.
i won't comment on HHG, coz, well, you didn't have to bring him, it's like saying " i heard patcher saying bla bla bla" .... i was hyped for GOW3, and his words really got me even more hyped but i never brought him into serious conversation. i am sure both games will look stunning, hopefully crysis will deliver, this is what i am looking forward too, but i will wait for gameplay. btw what are real time GI,procedural deformation ???[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="2mrw"] plzzz, spare me the hype ..... every game can be hyped to heaven, especially by its dev. , not to mention Crytech and id are depending on their reputations to market their games, and lets' not forget they are mainly PC dev, any idiot can make gfx kings when working on PC, Can you imagine how U2 or GOW3 will look like if they were made for PC???? the games would be beautiful but i need to see with my eyes to judge our new gfx king on consoles.2mrw
Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .ID are the most talented in the industry, maybe nintendo was back in the day (1980s) but its all ID now
LOL.AW?It had one translated spanish/danish(dont know exactly) preview which said it looks as good as UC2,but RAGE and Crysis 2 were ALWAYS hyped to be next big things and they are done by the best developers in business as far as tech goes.Bus-A-Bus
Aww, look at how cute you guys are. Makes me wanna pinch some cheeks! So there is a spanish/danish preview that said what cyrsis 2 and/or rage are the next big titles that look as good as uc2? Dude UC2 isn't even the best looking game on the ps3 anymore. As for your hope of calling crytek the best developers in the bussiness as tech goes......ROFL. They are very talented yes, but you can beleive this......you have no idea what you're talking about, lol. Yes you can beleive that. Wanna know why? Dude if you only knew you would've kept the trap shut, so here we go. There are many talented devs in the industry and not one is any better than the other. Wanna job working as a developer? You better be the best of the best my friend. That is what you can beleive.
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Please,your fanboyism is showing...Easier to make on PC??Why??Because you have to make optimized,yet great looking game for 100000000... combinations of hardware?With consoles Id and Crytek get tools,list of what to do and not to do,and fixed hardware that with good use can bring fantastic results.They hired alot of well known console programmers,had more then 3 yrs of work with best engines in world and most talented people in industry,why wouldnt they deliver?What does UC2 do that is so un believable and not possible for Crytek and Id to make because they are mostly PC developers?As far as i remember Id had gfx king on xbox last gen,and it was their first console game...
BTW those people who saw the games are from pretty well known gaming sites,they are no biased fanboys(at least not like here on SW) and they probably played majority of games that are today considered to be best looking,they have the credibility.If they were reviewing it and 10 sites gave it perfect 10s for gfx and said there is nothing better would you not believe that it looks special?For the end,i didnt even say it will be gfx king,i just pasted what previews have said,my bet is that they will look at least as good as todays best looking games...
lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .ID are the most talented in the industry, maybe nintendo was back in the day (1980s) but its all ID now
i give them credit for Q2 and Q3 arena .... that's about it ... Doom games dun apeal to me in anyway, and i never finished doom 3 on the xbox .[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"][QUOTE="2mrw"] lol. i think you are praising id and Crytech more than they do to their games ...... "best engines in world and most talented people in industry" !!!!!!! this is fanboyism. different combinations dun mean anything considering that the minimum of crysis is at least more powerful than any console out there ( hardware wise) which means the limitations on consoles are still more serious than the 10000000000 PC combinations. previews again dun mean anything .... seeing is believing, previews are always hyping, never saw a preview which crtitcized a game . And i actually never saw anyone bringing PREVIEWS to prove a point .2mrw
Well ok...i remember when HHG came and said"Yo,new build of GOW III looks *salve of praising*) and the WHOLE SW got nuts just because well known fanboy seen the new build,and he was the ONLY ONE that said it.This time you have much more PROFESSIONAL writers saying the same thing...
Crytek and Id are the technically the best developers in the world,they make the most advanced engines and the games and their games set benchmarks.All i know is Crysis 2 even on consoles uses things other devs could not dream about:real time GI,destructible environments,procedural deformation...and all that in game that supposedly looks breathtaking.
i won't comment on HHG, coz, well, you didn't have to bring him, it's like saying " i heard patcher saying bla bla bla" .... i was hyped for GOW3, and his words really got me even more hyped but i never brought him into serious conversation. i am sure both games will look stunning, hopefully crysis will deliver, this is what i am looking forward too, but i will wait for gameplay. btw what are real time GI,procedural deformation ???Hmm...procedural deformation...whatever you shoot in game,be it mailbox,some barrels,steel construction,cars...it will deform.When you shoot at front end of car airbags will come out.There will(at least from what guy from In crysis said who was there)also be alot more particle effects,destructed little stuff flying around when you shoot and lot of more light sources then original Crysis,more similar to KZ2.Trees falling down from explosions,they also said there will be earthquakes and buildings sliding down...He also said that that GDC10 demo looks ancient in comparison to new build,thats all i know :)
Oh yea...real time Gi is effect of bouncing lights.As i heard(b3d and their pdf presentation) consoles will have one bounce while PCs up to 3(its demanding).
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]LOL.AW?It had one translated spanish/danish(dont know exactly) preview which said it looks as good as UC2,but RAGE and Crysis 2 were ALWAYS hyped to be next big things and they are done by the best developers in business as far as tech goes.
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Aww, look at how cute you guys are. Makes me wanna pinch some cheeks! So there is a spanish/danish preview that said what cyrsis 2 and/or rage are the next big titles that look as good as uc2? Dude UC2 isn't even the best looking game on the ps3 anymore. As for your hope of calling crytek the best developers in the bussiness as tech goes......ROFL. They are very talented yes, but you can beleive this......you have no idea what you're talking about, lol. Yes you can beleive that. Wanna know why? Dude if you only knew you would've kept the trap shut, so here we go. There are many talented devs in the industry and not one is any better than the other. Wanna job working as a developer? You better be the best of the best my friend. That is what you can beleive.
I have just answered his question.He said that AW had similar previews and it flopped and i said it had not.Only one foreign small site said it looks on par with KZ2,UC2 and Crysis and it was ONLY said by ONE preview,that spanish.Now you might wanna look at the last page,there is previews from well known site praising RAGE.From IGN,Destructuid,Eurogamer,Gamespot...no danish or spanish.So...who is better known for its tech then Id and Crytek?As far as i know its been more then 3 yrs since Crysis came and no game on PC still cant surpass it,Id is long developing RAGE so they are occupied but for them its the same,when their game comes out its the best looking game on market.It was like that since first Doom to Doom 3,and for crytek it was Far Cry to Crysis now soon to be Crysis 2...
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