Are video games getting worse?

It's a simple question.

If yes, when do you think they peaked?

I honestly think so.

I see a large trend towards dumbing down games and making them easy/taking no skill, and alot of copying, especially among fps with little originality..

There are little rays of hope like bioshock or dead island, so we might be ok.

almost forgot. I think they peaked right before the great recession. 2008ish.

why did you touch your self this evening?Nengo_Flow

If you want anything done right you've gotta do it yourself these days.

Kidsnowadays don't appreciate the satisfaction of a HARD days work.

I honestly think so.

I see a large trend towards dumbing down games and making them easy/taking no skill, and alot of copying, especially among fps with little originality..

There are little rays of hope like bioshock or dead island, so we might be ok.

almost forgot. I think they peaked right before the great recession. 2008ish.

MakeMeaSammitch

If Bioshock Infinite is anything to go by, I'd say no.

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

I honestly think so.

I see a large trend towards dumbing down games and making them easy/taking no skill, and alot of copying, especially among fps with little originality..

There are little rays of hope like bioshock or dead island, so we might be ok.

almost forgot. I think they peaked right before the great recession. 2008ish.

DragonfireXZ95

If Bioshock Infinite is anything to go by, I'd say no.

PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

If Bioshock Infinite is anything to go by, I'd say no.

evildead6789

The majority of people seem to enjoy it so I'd say it's pretty good.

A lot of games are more about graphics than gameplay now, and then you have DLC, so yes!!!

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

I honestly think so.

I see a large trend towards dumbing down games and making them easy/taking no skill, and alot of copying, especially among fps with little originality..

There are little rays of hope like bioshock or dead island, so we might be ok.

almost forgot. I think they peaked right before the great recession. 2008ish.

evildead6789

Bethesda games were the same thing for the most part, especially Oblivion. Fallout 3 sucked, too.

And it was okay for a while, not very good.

A lot of games are more about graphics than gameplay now, and then you have DLC, so yes!!!

mitu123

Wrong.

EA shooters are more about graphics then gameplay now.

It's a simple question.

If yes, when do you think they peaked?

Big_Red_Button

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

A lot of games are more about graphics than gameplay now, and then you have DLC, so yes!!!

Jebus213

Wrong.

EA shooters are more about graphics then gameplay now.

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

It's a simple question.

If yes, when do you think they peaked?

blackace

SW threads have never been good.

LoosingENDS needs to start making more threads.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

A lot of games are more about graphics than gameplay now, and then you have DLC, so yes!!!

mitu123

Wrong.

EA shooters are more about graphics then gameplay now.

I can't think of any other games.

If they are getting worse, it's the fault of the consumer. We can blame the developers or the publishers, but we vote with our wallets. Don't like a particular game, don't support it. What you can do is support the games you really like, or stick it to the big developers and publishers and buy indie games or support kickstaters that you think look great. If games are getting worse, then we the consumers need to change who we support with our wallets.

The publishers are. LustForSoul

Nah it's just buisness.

Do really think Elder Scrolls games will ever be as complex as they once were? It's all about the money. There's nothing wrong with that.

I just move on.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

If Bioshock Infinite is anything to go by, I'd say no.

PhazonBlazer

The majority of people seem to enjoy it so I'd say it's pretty good.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Wrong.

EA shooters are more about graphics then gameplay now.

Jebus213

I can't think of any other games.

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"] Bioshock infinite just sucksevildead6789

The majority of people seem to enjoy it so I'd say it's pretty good.

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]I'm sure there are others besides EA shooters...

mitu123

I can't think of any other games.

I thought Killzone was always about bad graphics and generic gameplay :P

If they are getting worse, it's the fault of the consumer. We can blame the developers or the publishers, but we vote with our wallets. Don't like a particular game, don't support it. What you can do is support the games you really like, or stick it to the big developers and publishers and buy indie games or support kickstaters that you think look great. If games are getting worse, then we the consumers need to change who we support with our wallets.

dream431ca

According to your logic, the problem isn't just video games getting worse, but the human race getting overall stupider and more easily impressed.

What a terrifying notion. Not only is my hobby being put to crap, my species is devolving.

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

seanmcloughlin

I like how people only name a few.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Wrong.

EA shooters are more about graphics then gameplay now.

Jebus213

I can't think of any other games.

You can't think of ANY other games that are all flash and no substance? :?

No, there's just a hell of a lot more of em. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

Jebus213

I like how people only name a few.

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. With Bioshock Infinite alone coming this year along with GTA V and TLOU which will likely be very very good games

In fact go to metacritic and all time high game scores and look at the top 20 games. Look how many came this gen 

I'll name more for you then not just the top 20 in MC

GTA IV

SMG 1 and 2

Bioshock

Uncharted 2

Portal 1 and 2

Batman AA and AC

Mass effect series 

Skyrim

etc. etc.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

seanmcloughlin

I like how people only name a few.

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. With Bioshock Infinite alone coming this year along with GTA V and TLOU which will likely be very very good games

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

seanmcloughlin

I like how people only name a few.

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. 

No, the majority need to be getting better.

Naming a select few games that this forum praises and overrates doesn't count. 

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I can't think of any other games.

Jebus213

I thought Killzone was always about bad graphics and generic gameplay :P

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen. 

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no" 

seanmcloughlin

I like how people only name a few.

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. With Bioshock Infinite alone coming this year along with GTA V and TLOU which will likely be very very good games

Bioshock Infinite was a great example of everything wrong with video games. Nobody cares about gameplay. They just care about spectacles. They care about "TOTALLY EPIC" setpieces and don't care if the game is stupid easy and simple. Tomb Raider, Far Cry, Uncharted and the DMC reboot are all great examples of this, but let's focus on Bioshock Infinite:

It had beautiful graphics, good writing, and a great story (kinda).

But how was the gameplay? It was a generic shooter with regenerating shields, two weapons at a time, incredibly easy and it took no effort to play. I played on 1999 and it was easy as hell.

The original Bioshock had decent character progression, resource scarcity, exploration, good level design, more tactical, thoughtful gunplay, and was overall the better game. Infinite played like crap.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

If they are getting worse, it's the fault of the consumer. We can blame the developers or the publishers, but we vote with our wallets. Don't like a particular game, don't support it. What you can do is support the games you really like, or stick it to the big developers and publishers and buy indie games or support kickstaters that you think look great. If games are getting worse, then we the consumers need to change who we support with our wallets.

Big_Red_Button

According to your logic, the problem isn't just video games getting worse, but the human race getting overall stupider and more easily impressed.

What a terrifying notion. Not only is my hobby being put to crap, my species is devolving.

Not to worry. At least your still intelligent enough to realize something :P

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I like how people only name a few.

Jebus213

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. 

No, the majority need to be getting better.

Naming a select few games that this forum praises and overrates doesn't count. 

Sa basically name games in a very tiny margin in a way that you can easily blow off to suit your argument? yeah no thanks, that's just fvcking dumb

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I like how people only name a few.

Jebus213

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. 

No, the majority need to be getting better.

Naming a select few games that this forum praises and overrates doesn't count. 

The majority? What do you mean?

In fact go to metacritic and all time high game scores and look at the top 20 games. Look how many came this gen 

seanmcloughlin

Gersttman is disappoint..

No.

No. Games can't keep up with the ridiculously high expectations set by a bunch of cynical and jaded Internet warriors who have simply played too many games. Hobby fatigue happens to everyone. Take a break, long or small, go do other things and then start playing games again and you'll realize just how fun many of them are.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I like how people only name a few.

Big_Red_Button

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. With Bioshock Infinite alone coming this year along with GTA V and TLOU which will likely be very very good games

Bioshock Infinite was a great example of everything wrong with video games. Nobody cares about gameplay. They just care about spectacles. They care about "TOTALLY EPIC" setpieces and don't care if the game is stupid easy and simple. Tomb Raider, Far Cry, Uncharted and the DMC reboot are all great examples of this, but let's focus on Bioshock Infinite:

It had beautiful graphics, good writing, and a great story (kinda).

But how was the gameplay? It was a generic shooter with regenerating shields, two weapons at a time, incredibly easy and it took no effort to play. I played on 1999 and it was easy as hell.

The original Bioshock had decent character progression, resource scarcity, exploration, good level design, more tactical, thoughtful gunplay, and was overall the better game. Infinite played like crap.

Cool opinion, I disagree.

It's not perfect but if you people want good games and then p!ss in the face of an actual good one (it can still be good with overdone gameplay) then what do you expect the industry to do? 

It's a good game, some overrate it a bit but it's still a damn fine example of good gaming. Deal with it. 

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

A few is all you need to prove it wrong. 

seanmcloughlin

No, the majority need to be getting better.

Naming a select few games that this forum praises and overrates doesn't count. 

Sa basically name games in a very tiny margin in a way that you can easily blow off to suit your argument? yeah no thanks, that's just fvcking dumb

and you're saying games are getting better because you're hyped up over Bioshock Infinite.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

In fact go to metacritic and all time high game scores and look at the top 20 games. Look how many came this gen 

Jebus213

Gersttman is disappoint..

So let me repeat what you just posted

"I've been proven wrong so I will just post a dumb pic with no comeback or real argument"

Sure MC is not the best place ever but you can't really argue with it all the same especially when gamerankings has a very similar list

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The souls series and Bioshock series came this gen.

So I don't just say no, I say "Fvck no"

Jebus213

I like how people only name a few.

I'd argue that the first game now that I've had extensive time with infinite is easily still the best one gameplay wise, also some of the pacing in infinie is a bit off thanks to the Tears. [spoiler] Mainly how fast you are thrust into a revolution and then turned into enemy #1 by the VOX, it felt very forced. [/spoiler]

If he means better in a very recent sense, I'd tend to agree with him actually. But mostly from the sequelitis that has plagued the tail end of this gen.