Are we finally allowed to say 360 will never top KZ2 or U2.

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#1 LiquidSnake1001
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Halo Reach and Alan Wake both look fantastic but still not near the level of Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. A year after Killzone's release MS haven't shown a game near it's level graphically so I think it's fair to say PS3 is the more powerful machine, some may think I'm stating the obvious but many seem to think they're equal.

Yes I know Reach was in Pre Alpha so it could still suprise us.

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#2 Animal-Mother
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PS3 HAS TEH POWAH,

In all honesty lets wait and find out. 360's got some games comin this year so. WIll just have to play the "patience is a virtue" game

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Halo Reach and Alan Wake both look fantastic but still not near the level of Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. A year after Killzone's release MS haven't shown a game near it's level graphically so I think it's fair to say PS3 is the more powerful machine, some may think I'm stating the obvious but many seem to think they're equal.

Yes I know Reach was in Pre Alpha so it could still suprise us.

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Pre alpha. None of them are out.

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You can say what you want, but time will tell if that's true or not.

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Halo Reach and Alan Wake both look fantastic but still not near the level of Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. A year after Killzone's release MS haven't shown a game near it's level graphically so I think it's fair to say PS3 is the more powerful machine, some may think I'm stating the obvious but many seem to think they're equal.

Yes I know Reach was in Pre Alpha so it could still suprise us.

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Alpha to be more precise.

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#6 mD-
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You can say what you want, but time will tell if that's true or not.

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#7 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Come back again once the games are out and can be played by all.

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#8 88mphSlayer
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i would've sacrificed some of those graphics for splitscreen co-op

just 'sayin

(i don't play console games for the graphics)

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#9 lundy86_4
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How about we wait until the gen is finished before we make rash decisions now.

It's been shown that both systems are quite close with each other, and it's the differences in engines that help give a game the graphical edge.

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#10 i_am_interested
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no, because game technology progresses and it pretty much makes sense that games a year or two from now will look better than games today

all it takes is one game

ND could release 5 uncharteds on ps3 and 360 games could fail to pass everyone of them until one day a game is released that tops the 5th game

take crysis 2 for instance, chances are on 360 (and ps3) its going to look better than uncharted 2 and killzone 2 but its not coming out til around march 2011

we should expect these games (k2 and u2) to be passed on 360, the questions are when and by who

another interesting question is whether or not theyll be passed on 360 by the time kz3 and uc3 come out

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#11 Tessellation
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cool opinion,both of those games are technically more impressive than uc 2 n killzone 2 in many different ways and also metro 2033 and crysis 2 say hi.
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It actually is pretty funny though, Microsoft said themselves they would have a game that looks as good as Killzone 2, but they sure seem to be struggling to do so.
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#13 Chaos_HL21
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This generation is over? I didn't even hear news that the PS4 and next Xbox are coming out. I must be out of the loop...

We can't say that the 360 will never top KZ2 or U2, right now it doesn't but that doesn't mean it will never. Also does having the best graphics really matter? Did it help the Xbox beat the PS2?

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#14 WilliamRLBaker
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what we've seen of reach surpasses the fakey heavily compressed doctored photos of ff13 on 360...so what does that mean?

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#15 SilentlyMad
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When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.
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what we've seen of reach surpasses the fakey heavily compressed doctored photos of ff13 on 360...so what does that mean?

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Two things: Fake? and finally, it means nothing.
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#17 FIipMode
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what we've seen of reach surpasses the fakey heavily compressed doctored photos of ff13 on 360...so what does that mean?

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Who told you the FF13 photos are compressed and doctored? They came straight form Kotaku.
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#18 Supabul
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No you not allowed, the 360 is more powerfull. FF 13 looks better on 360 and Reach is the best looking FPS made even better than Crysis. Alan Wake will destory any openworld game this year for visual beauty, just look at infamous that game looks awful.

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#19 i_am_interested
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When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.SilentlyMad
i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever read
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.i_am_interested
i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever read

How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

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#21 bandicoot89
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it all depends on the developers' work. the 360 is even equipped with a better gfx card than the ps3's. technically I don't see how the ps3 can be much more powerful than the 360. but they do have talented developers

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#22 blues35301
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Reach I think looks average at best. People saying its a graphics king are kidding themselves or in massive denial. Alan Wake on the other hand I have a feeling will take console graphics king from UC2.

This is coming from someone who owns and loves both KZ2 and UC2 and plays my pc and ps3 way more than my 360. Alan Wake might have the best lighting in gaming, maybe even above Crysis. I'll have to see some more daytime gameplay to judge. I don't think the 360 can pull off those Crysis godrays though. If only the pc version hadn't been cancelled.

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.SilentlyMad

i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever read

How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

uncharted has the best anamations in video game history. best grafx next closes games is kz2. this is the opinion of most professional reviewers so your post fails.

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Until this gen is over, no.

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#25 kozzy1234
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IMO Gears2 is as good graphically as Killzone2.

Uncharted2 though is the best looking console game without question and will be hard to beat (crysis2 is the only one that has a chance imo)

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.SilentlyMad

i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever read

How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

Ah, yes...The old "linear and scripted" excuse:lol:. Mmmkay. So when do you lemmings expect to get a game as "linear and scripted" for comparisons sake? Matter of fact, where is the "game coming out shortly" that the MS PR staff said would top KZ2? It's been a year, right? Linear, scripted, open world, or whatever; Where is this game MS was talking about?

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#27 todd2r
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KZ2 was terrible!!!!!! Id rather have a root canal done than play that P.O.S. Uncharted 2 was excellent. One of the best adventures I have ever played. However, the game has no replay value and the multiplayer is garbage. As far as the 360 is concerned, Halo blows IMO. On the other hand, Gears of War is excellent. But its just like Uncharted. Excellent single player, terrible multiplayer. If the ps3 had gears of war, all the ps3 fanboys would **** their pants. so dont say 360 has nothing that tops Crapzone 2 or Uncharted 2 because they do.

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Until this gen is over, no.

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#29 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Until this gen is over, no.

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Agreed, and never say never. ;)

Never say die/. But I agree with you guyds

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#30 newyork11362
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best graphics this gen is easily mlb 09 the show, and hopefully mlb 10 the show in a week or so
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We should wait until we play these titles.
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#32 PAL360
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Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

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#33 LegendofYaslint
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Seriously, ANOTHER graphics thread???

I'm starting to think people on system wars honestly care more about graphics than any other aspect of a game.

I just think it's really funny how much people talk about it when I've never played a game where I actually payed attention to the graphics for more than the first couple hours. By the end of any great game I forgot about how it looks and just enjoy playing the game.

Graphics are nice of course, but if Halo Reach (for example) came out and looked better than uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 and also sacrificed all the huge levels and scale for a more linear game, I would consider that a step backwards in the franchise, no matter how good it looked. When they can make a game with top level graphics that actually has a ton of replay value THEN I'll be impressed. But all these linear corridor action games are getting really boring.

Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2 being the exceptions due to the amazing story and little touches. Games like Killzone 2 and MW2 though were piles of crap in terms of single player.

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Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

PAL360
Seems like there is one person here who is unwilling to accept things...
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In Gameplay enough said

K/M2

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

Chutebox

Seems like there is one person here who is unwilling to accept things...

So...what whoud i accept?

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#37 SilentlyMad
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In Gameplay enough said

K/M2

marcos27pr

What is amazing is how great Shepard looks even if you make your own Shep. That just has always blown me away. I can make a Femshep and still looks amazing also it is not just the default one.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

PAL360

Seems like there is one person here who is unwilling to accept things...

So...what whoud i accept?

The fact that you have not played these games and can not make a concrete conclusion based on the videos or photos we see.
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]When will a PS3 exclusive have better models then Fight Night. Since you only mention very linear and scripted games I just assume game size does not matter.SilentlyMad

i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever read

How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

nothing went over my head, especially your use of the word '"very" halo reach is linear and scripted just like uncharted 2 and killzone 2, doesnt matter if the environments are bigger, if theyre not open world, theyre linear and scripted
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

PAL360

Seems like there is one person here who is unwilling to accept things...

So...what whoud i accept?

You should accept the wait. People are just getting way ahead of themselves.
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] i dont know if its the dumbest so ill just say its one of the dumbest comparisons ive ever readi_am_interested

How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

nothing went over my head, especially your use of the word '"very" halo reach is linear and scripted just like uncharted 2 and killzone 2, doesnt matter if the environments are bigger, if theyre not open world, theyre linear and scripted

ok buddy whatever. I am not even bothering anymore. I laugh at these threads anyways. Go ahead and believe Halo games are just as linear as UC2 if it makes you feel better.
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#43 Chutebox
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In Gameplay enough said

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Yup, Shepard def. has a better tan.

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]How did that go over your head? Reach for example is on a far bigger scale then either of the two games he mentions. Larger map, more enemies, more vehicles, more open world. UC2 and KZ2 are very linear and scripted. So again why does Drake or any of the Killzone guys not have as good of models as Fight Night since the size of the game does not matter.

SilentlyMad

nothing went over my head, especially your use of the word '"very" halo reach is linear and scripted just like uncharted 2 and killzone 2, doesnt matter if the environments are bigger, if theyre not open world, theyre linear and scripted

ok buddy whatever. I am not even bothering anymore. I laugh at these threads anyways. Go ahead and believe Halo games are just as linear as UC2 if it makes you feel better.

does halo reach have levels?

because thats a pretty good indication of something being "linear" and "scripted"

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#45 PAL360
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@Animal-mother and Chutebox

I agree we have to play a game to figure its actual quality. Still you dont need to play it to figure it looks good :?

Also most sw posts/threads are about games that are not out....

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#46 Chutebox
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@Animal-mother and Chutebox

I agree we have to play a game to figure its actual quality. Still you dont need to play it to figure it looks good :?

Also most sw posts/threads are about games that are not out....

PAL360
I don't see many people denying those games look good. There really is no denying that.
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#47 mayceV
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but remember that halo reach has loads more going on and Alan wake is open world. Just wait for Firebird first game they are a studio made to push the system. besides Halo reach hit alpha the day before yesterday you are jumping to conclusions my friend :)
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[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

In Gameplay enough said

Chutebox

Yup, Shepard def. has a better tan.

much more Polygons Even tho the character its 100% editablek2/me2

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Neither U2 or KZ2 is comparable to reach and AW. Because both of those 360 games are sandbox types with large scale gameplay. While the PS3 counterparts are corridor, linear games.

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#50 FIipMode
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Neither U2 or KZ2 is comparable to reach and AW. Because both of those 360 games are sandbox types with large scale gameplay. While the PS3 counterparts are corridor, linear games.

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AW isn't even a sandbox.