Are we finally allowed to say 360 will never top KZ2 or U2.

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

AW and Halo Reach are not even out yet so how are they graphics king? I think we need to wait until they drop to make comparisons, but as of right now UC2 and KZ2 are console graphics king. 360 was out a whole year before PS3 and as of right now they don't have a game that looks better than a year old game (KZ2).

Mass Effect 2 looks as good as Killzone 2.

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

EVOLV3

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

vaderhater

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

vaderhater

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

vaderhater

Sure, you can say it.

But that doesn't make it true. :wink:

The best looking console game will be GOW3 hands down. SSM are dev gods and all others shall bow down to them when GOW3 releases. As for the 360 not having U2 or KZ2.. They have Halo so they don't need them.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

FIipMode

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

As it stands right now there isn't a single game on the Xbox 360 that looks on par with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2. Also, there isn't anything in the near future that looks as good either. Maybe in a couple years someone will surprise us, but by that time the Playstation 3 would have gotten an ever greater looking game so the Xbox is always going to be playing catch-up in terms of graphics.

Shewgenja

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

Power wise? No way, PC will never be beat this gen power wise, and PS3 currently is at 2nd with 360 3rd and Wii 4th. That is the way it will stay.

Quality wise is a different thing. Wii currently has the highest rated exclusivegame on MC (Super Mario Galaxy) and yet is the weakest system. PS3 also has Uncharted 2. PC has, well, most games other than Out of the Park Baseball have been ported to consoles at the 96 level but still.360 is still the black sheep as the only system without an exclusive at least at96. It could very well beat that someday soon, maybe withGears of War 3?

Right now it is currently 3rd weakest. and a bit behind on the quality but if anything it has a very high amount of games, with less shovelware than Wii (though less quality titles than PC, and PS3 depending on how exclusive you choose the games).

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Crysis2 is going to hurt alot for guys like you. It is going to be the best time here! And you guys keep bringing it on yourselves!:lol:

ToScA-

Thanks :) I'm an amateur with the photoshop but I think I did alright.

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Crysis2 is going to hurt alot for guys like you. It is going to be the best time here! And you guys keep bringing it on yourselves!:lol:

vaderhater

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

Dragon Age Origins says Hi.

..as does Crytek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEw24335oWk

"The PS3 was the lowest common denominator, but now it runs as the top level"

Cevat Yerli... Quote.. unquote.

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Crysis2 is going to hurt alot for guys like you. It is going to be the best time here! And you guys keep bringing it on yourselves!:lol:

vaderhater

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

FIipMode

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

We've already seen the new CryEngine running on PS3. Are there any vids of it running on 360, or are you just assuming it will be better for some reason?

FIipMode

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

Mass Effect 2 looks as good as Killzone 2.

Shoaka

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]You know what guys? How come when a multiplat across the 360,PS3 and the PC comes along it is obvious that the PC version will look the best? Well its because of the power the PC has.

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

vaderhater

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]You know what guys? How come when a multiplat across the 360,PS3 and the PC comes along it is obvious that the PC version will look the best? Well its because of the power the PC has.

So please oh please explain why in most multiplat situations the 360 bests the PS3 time and time again huh? Where is this power? Why doesnt it show itself on these multiplats yet there is so many different combinations of PC hardware that can best the consoles?

Actually alot of the same guys post again and again how the 360 cant do this and that but have no clue or way of explaining how they came to such conclusions. Its really laughable.

vaderhater

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Have you seen FF13 lately?FIipMode

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Have you seen FF13 lately?FIipMode

I have an example and a developer quote, for the record.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Oh look one example:roll:

vaderhater

Have you seen FF13 lately?FIipMode

My oh my, i find it funny how Playstation fans now find graphics so important, considering it never mattered to them last gen. Anjunaddict

My oh my, i find it funny how Playstation fans now find graphics so important, considering it never mattered to them last gen. Anjunaddict

I think that's a fallacy. A LOT of die-hard playstation fans were very much concerned about graphics las tgen. The hype for FFX was quite palpable, as well as games like God of War and Gran Turismo 3 and 4. Whenever a developer actually made that thing sweat bullets it was praised. KillZone and Black also ring a bell tbh.

Cows have always cared about graphics.. Just not the cowsuals.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Shewgenja's got a couple examples for you also.FIipMode

It actually is pretty funny though, Microsoft said themselves they would have a game that looks as good as Killzone 2, but they sure seem to be struggling to do so.TintedEyes

I'm willing to bet that exclusives on the Xbox360 can look better then the PS3's if MS put the same time and money.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Well no one has really proven much of anything yet. I mean really all the examples could be counted on one hand. Why is it a chore to find these examples if the PS3 is so powerful?

vaderhater

I was just responding to the claims about Crysis.. Which the lead developer has already come out and said the PS3 is their lead platform.. What was your earlier question? I'll take a crack at it.

Your allowed to voice your opinion, yes. the 360 will never produce a exclusive that looks as good or better than UC2 or KZ2. Its pretty obvious that they dont have development to do so or it would of been done by now.djsifer01

[QUOTE="Shoaka"]

Mass Effect 2 looks as good as Killzone 2.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Your allowed to voice your opinion, yes. the 360 will never produce a exclusive that looks as good or better than UC2 or KZ2. Its pretty obvious that they dont have development to do so or it would of been done by now.Anjunaddict

Thing is Microsoft said themselves they would have a game that looks as good as Killzone 2, so don't act like they don't care that much about graphics because they do very much.

"We congratulate Sony and Guerilla Games for their efforts with Killzone 2, however this is only the beginning of a new wave. The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far."

Link

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Your allowed to voice your opinion, yes. the 360 will never produce a exclusive that looks as good or better than UC2 or KZ2. Its pretty obvious that they dont have development to do so or it would of been done by now.Anjunaddict

That's a weighted comparison. KillZone 1 wasn't exactly a heavy hitter.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]It actually is pretty funny though, Microsoft said themselves they would have a game that looks as good as Killzone 2, but they sure seem to be struggling to do so.AdmiralBison

I'm willing to bet that exclusives on the Xbox360 can look better then the PS3's if MS put the same time and money.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]It actually is pretty funny though, Microsoft said themselves they would have a game that looks as good as Killzone 2, but they sure seem to be struggling to do so.ToScA-

I'm willing to bet that exclusives on the Xbox360 can look better then the PS3's if MS put the same time and money.

I do not. The system has been out a year longer and had power that was supposedly much easier to access than the PS3. Where is the hidden power going to start coming from?

its really a joke to say gears and other gamesis "nowhere near" the graphics of uncharted 2

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Your allowed to voice your opinion, yes. the 360 will never produce a exclusive that looks as good or better than UC2 or KZ2. Its pretty obvious that they dont have development to do so or it would of been done by now.Shewgenja

That's a weighted comparison. KillZone 1 wasn't exactly a heavy hitter.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Shoaka"]

Mass Effect 2 looks as good as Killzone 2.

jyoung312

Mass Effect 2 looks damn great. I don't know how you quantify whether or not it looks better than uncharted 2 or killzone, but it's undeniably good looking. And not only does it look great, it's an incredible game. There isn't a game on PS3 that is better, and certainly not Killzone 2. Killzone 2 is crap. It's a terrible, generic shooter. Why you would even mention it in a bickering fest about which person's toy is better is beyond me. So go back to devising new ways to try and justify your brand loyalty with outlandish superiority claims.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] Microsoft are not putting that much effort in their first party support as Sony.

I'm willing to bet that exclusives on the Xbox360 can look better then the PS3's if MS put the same time and money.

Shewgenja

I do not. The system has been out a year longer and had power that was supposedly much easier to access than the PS3. Where is the hidden power going to start coming from?

Its exactly the oposite, TC. Metro2033, Alan Wake and Reach prove 360 can top KZ2 and U2 graphics level. Other multiplats like Rage and Crysis2 will most likelly do it aswell.

Most non biased ppl already know 360 and PS3 are no diferent. Still i understant PS3 only owners wont accept it since they think more expensive means better...

PAL360

your basing this off games that arent even out? until a game comes out that beats kz2/uc2/soon to be gow3 i think TC is right..and no geow2 isnt better bc ms released a statement saying congratulations to kz2 but we'll soon have a game that looks better. if geow2 was better they wouldve just said...kz2 is nice but look at geow2.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] Microsoft are not putting that much effort in their first party support as Sony.

I'm willing to bet that exclusives on the Xbox360 can look better then the PS3's if MS put the same time and money.

Shewgenja

I do not. The system has been out a year longer and had power that was supposedly much easier to access than the PS3. Where is the hidden power going to start coming from?

thats something i dont understand either. its been out longer, its SOO much easier to develop for...wouldnt it be that much easier to develop a "graphics king" instead of the console thats stupid hard to develop for?

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Instead of asking for more examples, why don't you address the ones that have already been shown to you?Shewgenja

I was just responding to the claims about Crysis.. Which the lead developer has already come out and said the PS3 is their lead platform.. What was your earlier question? I'll take a crack at it.

Then there are the plain clueless whom oh for example GTA4 say "oh look at haw much smoother the framerate is for the PS3 and bla bla bla"

OH really guys??? I mean could that be contributed to the fact that the 360 is running a higher rez version of the game with AA? Also why does that stuff never factor in with the power discussions around here?

[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Hell no it doesn't.MangaJ

Mass Effect 2 looks damn great. I don't know how you quantify whether or not it looks better than uncharted 2 or killzone, but it's undeniably good looking. And not only does it look great, it's an incredible game. There isn't a game on PS3 that is better, and certainly not Killzone 2. Killzone 2 is crap. It's a terrible, generic shooter. Why you would even mention it in a bickering fest about which person's toy is better is beyond me. So go back to devising new ways to try and justify your brand loyalty with outlandish superiority claims.

Halo Reach and Alan Wake both look fantastic but still not near the level of Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. A year after Killzone's release MS haven't shown a game near it's level graphically so I think it's fair to say PS3 is the more powerful machine, some may think I'm stating the obvious but many seem to think they're equal.

Yes I know Reach was in Pre Alpha so it could still suprise us.

LiquidSnake1001

[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Hell no it doesn't.MangaJ

Mass Effect 2 looks damn great. I don't know how you quantify whether or not it looks better than uncharted 2 or killzone, but it's undeniably good looking. And not only does it look great, it's an incredible game. There isn't a game on PS3 that is better, and certainly not Killzone 2. Killzone 2 is crap. It's a terrible, generic shooter. Why you would even mention it in a bickering fest about which person's toy is better is beyond me. So go back to devising new ways to try and justify your brand loyalty with outlandish superiority claims.

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Well lets see....I asked a question earlier and no one addressed that one to so....

vaderhater

I was just responding to the claims about Crysis.. Which the lead developer has already come out and said the PS3 is their lead platform.. What was your earlier question? I'll take a crack at it.

Then there are the plain clueless whom oh for example GTA4 say "oh look at haw much smoother the framerate is for the PS3 and bla bla bla"

OH really guys??? I mean could that be contributed to the fact that the 360 is running a higher rez version of the game with AA? Also why does that stuff never factor in with the power discussions around here?

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="ToScA-"] I share this opinion.karsa-orlong

I do not. The system has been out a year longer and had power that was supposedly much easier to access than the PS3. Where is the hidden power going to start coming from?

thats something i dont understand either. its been out longer, its SOO much easier to develop for...wouldnt it be that much easier to develop a "graphics king" instead of the console thats stupid hard to develop for?