Are we over reacting, or is PC going to crap over next gen consoles?

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#201 mitu123
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The thing about a PC is that even when next gen comes along for consoles a PC will have a large backlog of games while the new consoles will barely have anything out.RyviusARC
Yeah and that's why I tend to wait a while to get a new console...
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#202 Sali217
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The thing about a PC is that even when next gen comes along for consoles a PC will have a large backlog of games while the new consoles will barely have anything out.RyviusARC
Yeah, but do people really just trash their previous console the moment they get a new one?
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#203 ActionRemix
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You've apparently got faulty hardware.......personally I've never had a Computer break on within 3 years. All the hardware I get has withstood fairly well. bblundell
I sure do. Narrowed it down to the CPU, PSU, and MOBO. Not sure how to check those without extra parts I can swap in. I guess I'll make a thread on it.

Most likely you went cheap on the PSU. Or got a faulty memory module, that can happen.

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The RAM's fine. The PSU is 750W w/ 80 Plus.

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#204 Valknut4
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If you got faulty hardware, you would know it. If its not faulty an died 3 months after you built it. You did soemthing wrong.

Thing with PC's pre built or self built, its 90% of the time end users fault they're not working. Consoles its 90% manufactures fault its wrong, IE built in defects like RROD, Disc read errors, or over heating.

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#205 AdrianWerner
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With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

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#206 Valknut4
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With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

AdrianWerner

Facebook gamers ruin that ideal do they not, seeing how there is more of them then any of the 3 big consoles.

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#207 ActionRemix
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With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

AdrianWerner

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

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#208 AdrianWerner
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Facebook gamers ruin that ideal do they not, seeing how there is more of them then any of the 3 big consoles.

Valknut4

No, why would they? They do not negate the existence of typical hardcore titles afterall.
Plus, even browser games are a sign of this trend. They are traditionally put into casual category, but many of them would count as pure hardcore if ported to consoles.

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#209 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

ActionRemix

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

Well, people who think it's too much hassle aren't really hardcore gamers, aren't they? :)

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#210 rzepak
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Well this year E3 showed theres a change. Last year I remember games being showcased on consoles, this year it was on PCs with xbox pads.

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#211 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

AdrianWerner

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

Well, people who think it's too much hassle aren't really hardcore gamers, aren't they? :)

I guess not, but the whole point of consoles is to target this demographic. They're too hardcore for browser games but unable to build/buy a gaming PC. This even includes tech savvy people.

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#212 AdrianWerner
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I guess not, but the whole point of consoles is to target this demographic. They're too hardcore for browser games but unable to build/buy a gaming PC. This even includes tech savvy people.

ActionRemix

I would say that browser games as a whole are more hardcore than motion-controls casual console games though :)

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#213 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

I guess not, but the whole point of consoles is to target this demographic. They're too hardcore for browser games but unable to build/buy a gaming PC. This even includes tech savvy people.

AdrianWerner

I would say that browser games as a whole are more hardcore than motion-controls casual console games though :)

I think you might be right, although a lot of browser games seem to resemble this: http://www.gamesdash.com/game/363/herd-em-up : D

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#214 GioVela2010
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Can a $400, even $500 console compete with PC hardware at launch? Maybe? But I don't see MS or Sony wanting to take losses, so $500 will be $500 in value, not $700.

If consoles are not up to par with PC next gen then I am just going to wait about 2 years and upgrade my rig, have that as my main platform, Halo is not enough, Sony has nothing for me.

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Why would u think they won't sell them at a $100 dollar loss for the first 6 months or so? Within 9 months they'd be breaking even on a console with a 6-9 year life span that's making billions per year from Xbox Live alone
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#215 mitu123
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

ActionRemix

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

They can if they got off their lazy assess!>.>

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That being said, I've never met an adult PC gamer who wasn't dysfunctional, didn't live with their parents, getting food stamps, or had major responsibilities like kids, a mortgage, a wife, and a career. I'm sure they exist, but I've never seen them.

By contrast I've met MANY adult console gamers who do their workouts on WiiFit or Kinect, play a little CoD, watch a Netflix movie and go to sleep, to juggle challenging careers and family life.

ZombieKiller7

You can't use the same example as a pro and a con in the same argument, no matter how differently you word it. That isn't a SW rule, it's aimple fact.

Other than that I'm not sure what adults are left who don't game on the PC. You've got the mad, the sad, the unemployed, the parent, the home owner, the married and the people with jobs? I guess that leaves the lonely, the criminals and the homeless to play on consoles!

Have I got that right?

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#217 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

That being said, I've never met an adult PC gamer who wasn't dysfunctional, didn't live with their parents, getting food stamps, or had major responsibilities like kids, a mortgage, a wife, and a career. I'm sure they exist, but I've never seen them.

By contrast I've met MANY adult console gamers who do their workouts on WiiFit or Kinect, play a little CoD, watch a Netflix movie and go to sleep, to juggle challenging careers and family life.

GarGx1

You can't use the same example as a pro and a con in the same argument, no matter how differently you word it. That isn't a SW rule, it's aimple fact.

Other than that I'm not sure what adults are left who don't game on the PC. You've got the mad, the sad, the unemployed, the parent, the home owner, the married and the people with jobs? I guess that leaves the lonely, the criminals and the homeless to play on consoles!

Have I got that right?

Well, console gamers do pop up an awful lot in those news articles about people killing each other over vidoe games...

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#218 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

ActionRemix

Well, people who think it's too much hassle aren't really hardcore gamers, aren't they? :)

I guess not, but the whole point of consoles is to target this demographic. They're too hardcore for browser games but unable to build/buy a gaming PC. This even includes tech savvy people.

Who the heck really wants to be a "hardcore gamer" anyways? I was playing Starhawk this morning and owning a high-leveled player pretty badly, so he sent me all kinds of hate-mail calling me almost every curseword under the sun. When you let video games control your life like that and take them that seriously it's sheer stupidity.

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#219 fadersdream
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Can a $400, even $500 console compete with PC hardware at launch? Maybe? But I don't see MS or Sony wanting to take losses, so $500 will be $500 in value, not $700.

If consoles are not up to par with PC next gen then I am just going to wait about 2 years and upgrade my rig, have that as my main platform, Halo is not enough, Sony has nothing for me.

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#220 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

mitu123

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

They can if they got off their lazy assess!>.>

Can you build and fix your own car? Probably not. It's hard and requires a large time investment to learn. Sure, a lot of people can change a flat/replace and HDD, but they're SOL when they encounter a more intense problem.It's just not worth the time/money for most people, even if they have the aptitude for it.

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#221 santoron
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

ActionRemix

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

You don't have to build a PC, if the work intimidates you. And repairing a PC is within the scope of a lot more people than repairing a console, so how does that matter?
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#222 zeta
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

santoron

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

You don't have to build a PC, if the work intimidates you. And repairing a PC is within the scope of a lot more people than repairing a console, so how does that matter?

But SolidREV is more impatient, rather than typical gamer person. I don't understand why you're bringing him up as if he represents the casual gaming community (even more so, since 90% of his gaming is just call of duty).
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#223 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

With consoles' increasing focus on casuals and growing mobile, I think PC is quickly becoming the last safe heaven for hardcore :)

ActionRemix

PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

Oh god SolidRev, bro gamer to the max

P.S. there is a reason PC brands such as AlienWare, CyberPower PC, Digital Storm, iBuypower, Origin and etc exist

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#224 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]PC gaming is way too much hassle for the typical console gamer. See: SolidREV.

The fact is, most people can't build or repair a computer even if they're given a visual guide.

ActionRemix

They can if they got off their lazy assess!>.>

Can you build and fix your own car? Probably not. It's hard and requires a large time investment to learn. Sure, a lot of people can change a flat/replace and HDD, but they're SOL when they encounter a more intense problem.It's just not worth the time/money for most people, even if they have the aptitude for it.

Not comparable seeing how a PC is much easier to build than a car...

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#225 ShadowMoses900
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This thread seems like something an insecure Hermit would make because they regret spending all that money and time on upgrading their PC, only to realise that they arn't happy with it, but instead of admitting it they are trying to justify it.

Just another case of buyers remorse, but hey that's what SW is all about....

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This thread seems like something an insecure Hermit would make because they regret spending all that money and time on upgrading their PC, only to realise that they arn't happy with it, but instead of admitting it they are trying to justify it.

Just another case of buyers remorse, but hey that's what SW is all about....

ShadowMoses900

Do you even know Saltymeatballs? Refute the points instead of claiming "buyer's remorse" every time. At the end of the day, he may be off the mark with a few things, but he's correct with regards to them competing with PC's on a hardware basis. The evolution moves too fast for the PC.

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#227 clone01
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This thread seems like something an insecure Hermit would make because they regret spending all that money and time on upgrading their PC, only to realise that they arn't happy with it, but instead of admitting it they are trying to justify it.

Just another case of buyers remorse, but hey that's what SW is all about....

lundy86_4

Do you even know Saltymeatballs? Refute the points instead of claiming "buyer's remorse" every time. At the end of the day, he may be off the mark with a few things, but he's correct with regards to them competing with PC's on a hardware basis. The evolution moves too fast for the PC.

Agreed, I'm a consolite, and PC will always look better. It can always be upgraded. That being said, I think hermits that call consoles garbage are a little out of line.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This thread seems like something an insecure Hermit would make because they regret spending all that money and time on upgrading their PC, only to realise that they arn't happy with it, but instead of admitting it they are trying to justify it.

Just another case of buyers remorse, but hey that's what SW is all about....

clone01

Do you even know Saltymeatballs? Refute the points instead of claiming "buyer's remorse" every time. At the end of the day, he may be off the mark with a few things, but he's correct with regards to them competing with PC's on a hardware basis. The evolution moves too fast for the PC.

Agreed, I'm a consolite, and PC will always look better. It can always be upgraded. That being said, I think hermits that call consoles garbage are a little out of line.

Yep, yep. I play all my systems and enjoy them all. The consoles have a natural step down in graphics, but I think that's more than acceptable in order to play their unique games. Heck, many even look damn good.

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#229 glez13
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I'm just gonna guess it's gonna be the same as since the PC changed to the current format. Maybey changing a little bit and give consoles more breathing space than previous gens because of the apparent direction software is taking. PC can't overwhelm hardware wise without the proper software.

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#230 GamerwillzPS
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Oh please. :roll:

Consoles will never be on par with PC.