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#1 locopatho
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So since graphics king threads have been done a million times over,

I'd like to try something different and ask for AI king!

Imma say Gears, some will laugh at me but the enemies take cover well, blindfire, flank, throw grenades, one suppresses you while another rushes you with shotgun, etc. They will also heal each other and run over to finish you off if you downed.

It's not "flashy" but it's just really solid, brutal and believeable. They never do stupid stuff or get stuck on walls, etc.

What game do you think has the best AI?

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#2 2-10-08
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Halo 3

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#3 BigBoss154
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Killzone 2/3 and F.E.A.R.

Gears is pretty good, too.

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#4 WilliamRLBaker
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Halo series always had better AI then most every other FPS.

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#5 dercoo
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The kings are

Fear 1

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Killzone 2/3

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#6 jedikevin2
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FEAR 1 by a long shot....
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#7 locopatho
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FEAR 1 by a long shot.... jedikevin2
What's so great about FEAR ai may I ask you? I played it about an hour on PC and a few hours on 360 and didn't notice much special?
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#8 WilliamRLBaker
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*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

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#9 BigBoss154
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*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

...Why the hell did you play on easy? :?

The AI's behaviour changes with the different difficulty. On Elite, they'll work in teams to try and flank you, draw you from cover by throwing grenades and then ambush you, they'll play dead, shift/shimmy from cover to cover when they are taking heavy fire, and rush you when they hear that you are reloading.

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#10 GTSaiyanjin2
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I had a lot of fun with the AI in Halo reach, even if it was very predictable. The Ai in Killzone 3 was also very good.

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#11 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]FEAR 1 by a long shot.... locopatho
What's so great about FEAR ai may I ask you? I played it about an hour on PC and a few hours on 360 and didn't notice much special?

They react to you, work as a team, when out of ammo will attempt to sneak around and attack with hands(also they can run out of ammo), work with cover fire while attemping to flank, the scripting groups of enemies always work together (close end, ranged enemies), and the voice acting relates to their movements. Go play the game on the hardest difficulty and see.

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#13 kuraimen
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I got to admit that Killzone has some of the IA I've seen in a FPS.
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#14 dercoo
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*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

lol. Killzone Easy AI,

GG designed the diffulculty curve to increase AI inteligence along with the standard health and damage buffs.

Elite AI is in another universe to "easy" AI

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#15 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]FEAR 1 by a long shot.... jedikevin2

What's so great about FEAR ai may I ask you? I played it about an hour on PC and a few hours on 360 and didn't notice much special?

They react to you, work as a team, when out of ammo will attempt to sneak around and attack with hands(also they can run out of ammo), work with cover fire while attemping to flank, the scripting groups of enemies always work together (close end, ranged enemies), and the voice acting relates to their movements. Go play the game on the hardest difficulty and see.

O sounds interesting. I like when games difficulty levels are something other then just extra health and damage for the baddies :)
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#16 Michael0134567
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Definitely not Gears of War,because they're horrible,especially in multiplayer.Probably Halo for me.

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#17 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] What's so great about FEAR ai may I ask you? I played it about an hour on PC and a few hours on 360 and didn't notice much special?locopatho

They react to you, work as a team, when out of ammo will attempt to sneak around and attack with hands(also they can run out of ammo), work with cover fire while attemping to flank, the scripting groups of enemies always work together (close end, ranged enemies), and the voice acting relates to their movements. Go play the game on the hardest difficulty and see.

O sounds interesting. I like when games difficulty levels are something other then just extra health and damage for the baddies :)

*coughCODcough* :P

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#18 locopatho
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Definitely not Gears of War,because they're horrible,especially in multiplayer.Probably Halo for me.

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The bots aren't good. I was thinking of single player enemies.
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#19 Michael0134567
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*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

There's your problem right there.

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#20 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

They react to you, work as a team, when out of ammo will attempt to sneak around and attack with hands(also they can run out of ammo), work with cover fire while attemping to flank, the scripting groups of enemies always work together (close end, ranged enemies), and the voice acting relates to their movements. Go play the game on the hardest difficulty and see.

BigBoss154

O sounds interesting. I like when games difficulty levels are something other then just extra health and damage for the baddies :)

*coughCODcough* :P

Though that can still be fun in an arcadey, learn the pattern to stop dying, Super Ghouls and Ghosts sort of way :P
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#21 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Definitely not Gears of War,because they're horrible,especially in multiplayer.Probably Halo for me.

locopatho
The bots aren't good. I was thinking of single player enemies.

You meant single player?They're definitely better than in multiplayer.
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#22 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Did everybody forget about RAGE or something? That game by far seems to have some of the best AI (if not THE best AI) I've ever seen in games.

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#23 Randoggy
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Did everybody forget about RAGE or something? That game by far seems to have some of the best AI (if not THE best AI) I've ever seen in games.

XVision84
Well seeing as no one has played it and the simple the fact that the game isn't out, people shouldn't be counting it.
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#24 Joel_Pichardo
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Kilzone 2/3, Uncharted series and Resistance series.

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#25 T_0_D
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My vote would be for Civilization IV or perhaps Star Craft II above all the fps AI's.

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#26 SaltyMeatballs
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Halo series, FEAR 1 also was good I believe.

Did everybody forget about RAGE or something? That game by far seems to have some of the best AI (if not THE best AI) I've ever seen in games.

XVision84
Haven't played it but it looks good. Anyway what about non-FPS games? I know it's easy to just look at FPS's. :P
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#27 Lucianu
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I can say without a doubt - Gothic series the absolute king of NPC AI.

For FPSs, Unreal Tournament '99, the bots are incredible.

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#28 theuncharted34
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Killzone 2. The AI is just Fierce.

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#29 theuncharted34
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Did everybody forget about RAGE or something? That game by far seems to have some of the best AI (if not THE best AI) I've ever seen in games.

XVision84

True. But it's not out yet :P

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#30 Kiro0
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Well it's honestly hard for me to think of any outside of FPSes. Thief had pretty good AI back in the day, as did Half Life. More modern examples have all pretty much been said: Halo 3, FEAR 1, Killzone 2/3.

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#31 AmayaPapaya
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Kilzone 2/3, Uncharted series and Resistance series.

Joel_Pichardo

When I think of Uncharted, I don't really think of it as an AI king. The only props I have for it is that the enemies aren't all knowing like most games. If your hiding behind cover and move spots, they will still go after you in the spot they last saw you, provided you moved without being seen. If you hide long enough, they will realize you are not there, and you can start stealth killing them. Other than that, the AI does have some problems, and doesn't do much beyond other games. Let alone Killzone or Resistance (mainly R1 though).

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#32 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

first of all, it would be much quicker just to put "LOL" instead of **laughs**, i mean isnt that why LOL was invented? lmao and secondly are you really that ignorant? evryone knows killzone has some pretty good AI! **laughs**, **laughs so hard he pops a major blood vessel***

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Desperados: dead or alive
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#34 Zaibach
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Killzone 2's AI kicked my butt 3 ways from sunday

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#35 doubalfa
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halo reach was tough and elites were tough to the point of annoying, the had massive healt bost and whenever they shields ran out the would go into cover, if they were outnumbering you they all rushd to get to you
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#36 Vaultl101egend
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Halo,Killzone, Gears,Fear 1, and Fallout 3 (Lol JK Bout that last one)
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#37 muscleserge
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I like Crysis AI, to me it seemed quite intelligent.
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#38 MetroidPrimePwn
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl. The AI is given much more room to move around that it is in most games *coughF.E.A.R.cough* but still manages to perform the same sort of tasks that impress people so much in those games. They use cover effectively, they work together, having one person or a group distract your attention with fire while others attempt to flank, and they do all this regardless of whether they're in corridor-like sewers or a more open construction zone or a forest area.

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#39 nethernova
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Gears is pretty good, too.

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No, it's not. Friendly AI on insane nearly made me break my controller a few times.
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#40 millerlight89
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So since graphics king threads have been done a million times over,locopatho

King threads in general have been over done.

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#41 UCF_Knight
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Self ownage in the first few posts. I love threads like this. Anyway, I'll go with Starcraft II.
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#42 Doom_HellKnight
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  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
  • FEAR
  • Crysis

Pick one. :P

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#43 Dante2710
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FEAR by a long shot.
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#44 brickdoctor
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Far Cry 2 had decent AI if I remember correctly.

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#45 SaltyMeatballs
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  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
  • FEAR
  • Crysis

Pick one. :P

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Not Crysis.
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[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]

  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
  • FEAR
  • Crysis

Pick one. :P

SaltyMeatballs

Not Crysis.

It had it's problems. Certainly. But I thought it performed pretty damn well, considering the environment it was made to perform in.

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#47 ironman388
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AI war: fleet command

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

Randoggy
Try playing on something other than easy perhaps? Tool.

I don't recall it being that great even on Elite.
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I don't even know how to quantify the quality of the AI--the only time I can recognize the quality of the AI is when it sucks ass. Otherwise, I don't expect much from AI to even put any title on a pedestal.
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#50 locopatho
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I don't even know how to quantify the quality of the AI--the only time I can recognize the quality of the AI is when it sucks ass. Otherwise, I don't expect much from AI to even put any title on a pedestal. Stevo_the_gamer
You've neeeeeever been impressed or outwitted by AI? Never had those dam marines flush you out with grenades in half life 1? Never had the Chinese and Persians launch a simultaneous pincer assault on your Civ 4 empire? Dayum!