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#151 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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wow no-one on here has played the original crysis? all the games listed so far are corridoor shooters.. not so much great AI.. morelike scriptedSPBoss
The original Crysis' A.I. is dumb as hell. Not as dumb as Crysis 2's A.I., but still not very good.
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#152 millerlight89
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wow no-one on here has played the original crysis? all the games listed so far are corridoor shooters.. not so much great AI.. morelike scriptedSPBoss
Crysis has some of the worst AI I have ever seen :P They somehow manage to make it worse in the second.

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#153 magnax1
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Stalker has great AI. It usually tries to work together to flank you, and does a really good job with using cover effectively.

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#154 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Halo Reach.

One single Elite can be a problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOLm13VUQg

tormentos

Good AI isn't cheap AI. That's cheap because they soak up a billion shots.

Exactly they are not smart they are just almost undestructible,instead to making him smarter they just increase the damage that they inflict and the damage it take to kill them. Killzone 2 has far superior AI than Halo,i guess Halo fans would admit this by now,i was wrong also Resistance is a tad over Halo,but mainly because you just can't hide for 5 second to regain all your health,and because hiding in Resistance won't serve you for much,when enemies can fire and even see you through walls.

They are smart and their high damage threshold comes from their shields. If you run to cover after your shields have gotten decimated, often the Elite who did so will follow you to finish the job. They do a good job of maintaining distance when you're strong and closing in when your weak. The elite AI in Halo is very good, though the other enemies not so much. Grunts are pratically brain dead, as are hunters for the most part. Drones are sporadic and hard to predict, but not particurarly challenging. Elites though, they duck, dodge, jump and use armor abilities to get the job done.

Shame they still fall prety to the noob combo. They also pause once their shields are down... but if you want to really see stupid strong Elites, throw on Mythic and Thunderstorm. Energy sheilds are near impossible to destroy, and I've seen a mid level brute take a rocket to the face and keep coming.

Anyway, I'm going to agree with FEAR. Such impressive AI - I remember I was fighting one group. Two were keeping me busy while another snuck around through some corridors, had to went at least 20% backwards in the level to get the drop on me. Very impressive.

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#155 iHarlequin
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Dwarf Fortress.
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#156 BlbecekBobecek
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Killzone 2 & 3, Resistance 1 & 2, and F.E.A.R. come to mind.

Pug-Nasty

Resistance 2 actually has one of the WORST AI of all FPS. Its almost as bad as CoD.

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#157 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Killzone 2 & 3, Resistance 1 & 2, and F.E.A.R. come to mind.

BlbecekBobecek

Resistance 2 actually has one of the WORST AI of all FPS. Its almost as bad as CoD.

Not from my most recent playthrough, not even by a long shot. Very good A.I.

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#158 WiiMan21
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Killzone 2 and 3, as well as F.E.A.R.

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#159 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Killzone 2 & 3, Resistance 1 & 2, and F.E.A.R. come to mind.

Pug-Nasty

Resistance 2 actually has one of the WORST AI of all FPS. Its almost as bad as CoD.

Not from my most recent playthrough, not even by a long shot. Very good A.I.

I found AI to be the biggest issue in Resistance 2. Enemies chasing you and ignoring all AI soldiers (to an extreme degree), noone ever uses cover or tries to flank you, etc etc. Imho its really miles behind Killzone 2 and FEAR.

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#160 Solid_Tango
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Resistance 1 had one of the most aggresive AI ever, if you stay in aplace for too long, the chrimera will come at you and shoot you, if you stay on cover for too long, they will throw granades at you and go after you.
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#161 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Gears is pretty good, too.

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No, it's not. Friendly AI on insane nearly made me break my controller a few times.

Painfully dumb isn't it.

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#162 Maroxad
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Best AI: Ultima 7. (not the AI during combat however)
Worst AI: Sims 1. Unless you think dancing around the fire and jumping in the swimming pool with very low energy is a good idea.

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#163 DivineSword  Moderator
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Killzone 2 for me, Killzone 3 was a walk in the park for me. As for the other series nothing come close base on my gaming exxperience.

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#164 Darth_DuMas
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Path of Go An MS AI research project.

Also likely a Chessmaster entry and a Fritz chess entry.

Fight Night Champion. A.I. adapts to you and forces you to adapt too.

It's likely Path of Go could well come close to being an a.i. king.

Thought of another, A.I. Wars.

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#165 Pug-Nasty
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Killzone 2 for me, Killzone 3 was a walk in the park for me. As for the other series nothing come close base on my gaming exxperience.

-DarthMaul-

The A.I. in 3 seemed at least as good as 2 to me, but it was more game design that allowed it to be easier. The last levels in KZ2 are brutal and absoultely painful to try to complete on Elite, but that's more to do with the amount of enemies, as well as the weaponry they have, rather than how smart they are.

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#166 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Joel_Pichardo"]

Kilzone 2/3, Uncharted series and Resistance series.

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When I think of Uncharted, I don't really think of it as an AI king. The only props I have for it is that the enemies aren't all knowing like most games. If your hiding behind cover and move spots, they will still go after you in the spot they last saw you, provided you moved without being seen. If you hide long enough, they will realize you are not there, and you can start stealth killing them. Other than that, the AI does have some problems, and doesn't do much beyond other games. Let alone Killzone or Resistance (mainly R1 though).

Now that's a load of bull. In UC1 on crushing they're already pointing directly at you behind walls without even seeing you.

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#167 MFDOOM1983
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F.E.A.R. 1 and Stalker series for me.
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#168 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="-DarthMaul-"]

Killzone 2 for me, Killzone 3 was a walk in the park for me. As for the other series nothing come close base on my gaming exxperience.

Pug-Nasty

The A.I. in 3 seemed at least as good as 2 to me, but it was more game design that allowed it to be easier. The last levels in KZ2 are brutal and absoultely painful to try to complete on Elite, but that's more to do with the amount of enemies, as well as the weaponry they have, rather than how smart they are.

the enemies in 2 were more tactical and took cover better then friendly A.I. in 3 they are more laid back but traveled more on the battlefield

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#169 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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FEAR 1 by a long shot.... jedikevin2

I'm going to say CSS: The bots are so smart they usually run around the corners spraying headshots. It's almost like they are using aimbots and wallhacks but since they are bots, you know that they are just that good :P

Na but seriously, I agree with you about FEAR. Even today the AI is still awesome compared to most games. I thought Crysis had some decent AI at some points.

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#170 T1GERBLOOD
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Killzone's AI isn't smart. Killzone 3 was way too easy and the only hard part of Killzone 2 was the palace and thats because of the infinite enemies. Halo's AI isn't scripted and use squad tactics all the time. Halo's AI is incredibly smart and is easily the best in video games.
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#171 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Halo Reach.

One single Elite can be a problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOLm13VUQg

tormentos

Good AI isn't cheap AI. That's cheap because they soak up a billion shots.

Exactly they are not smart they are just almost undestructible,instead to making him smarter they just increase the damage that they inflict and the damage it take to kill them. Killzone 2 has far superior AI than Halo,i guess Halo fans would admit this by now,i was wrong also Resistance is a tad over Halo,but mainly because you just can't hide for 5 second to regain all your health,and because hiding in Resistance won't serve you for much,when enemies can fire and even see you through walls.

I fail to see how much damage an enemy can withstand has any saying on how good the A.I. is. Competent A.I. is implementation of tactics, not the length of the lifebar or how much armor there is. From what I saw in the video it took cover, used grenades, and was quite aggressive. His health doesn't change that.

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="ocstew"] Good AI isn't cheap AI. That's cheap because they soak up a billion shots.Rekunta

Exactly they are not smart they are just almost undestructible,instead to making him smarter they just increase the damage that they inflict and the damage it take to kill them. Killzone 2 has far superior AI than Halo,i guess Halo fans would admit this by now,i was wrong also Resistance is a tad over Halo,but mainly because you just can't hide for 5 second to regain all your health,and because hiding in Resistance won't serve you for much,when enemies can fire and even see you through walls.

I fail to see how much damage an enemy can withstand has any saying on how good the A.I. is. Competent A.I. is implementation of tactics, not the length of the lifebar or how much armor there is. From what I saw in the video it took cover, used grenades, and was quite aggressive. His health doesn't change that.

I would agree, save there is nothing in that video that shows it to be a particularly good AI. It is decent, but most the reason the battle was tough because it could soak a large amount of damage. I think the point is: tough enemy != good ai. Good AI is most noticeable on the most fragile enemies as they have the least artificial padding to make them tough. As good ai does not equate tough enemy either. Good AI in many situations is nothing to do with being tough, but rather responding appropriately. A lot of games have stealth elements for instance that have to be factored in at varying complexity which adds to the AI's superiority, even if it may actually make said AI easier to defeat.

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#173 UnrealLegend
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I would say Halo: Reach... but the friendly AI suck at driving :|

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#174 savagetwinkie
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  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
  • FEAR
  • Crysis

Pick one. :P

Doom_HellKnight
stalker has some of the worst ai i've ever seen, i remember watching two ai guys shoot at each other for over an our while i went around and did my business, i got some militia or something ot chase me to the starting town, and watched the town fight with the militia, but it was generally some of the dumbest moments in games I've ever seen, and this was rivaling me and my friends doing stupid things to the ai back in golden eye.
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#175 skektek
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I really don't notice AI much unless it is either really bad (glitchy or cheating) or really good. Killzone 2/3's AI is really challenging and fun to play against.

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#176 xYamatox
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Halo series always had better AI then most every other FPS.

WilliamRLBaker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDudzZqdwNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0dXdkw9A7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PLOnG1Kj_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyWqYYEN5XQ

Amazing AI.

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#177 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

So since graphics king threads have been done a million times over,millerlight89

King threads in general have been over done.

I'm going to go make a king of making king threads in SW thread. I just need to figure out nominations....

:P

Really though, I'd say Halo and Killzone out of all the games I've played and remembered. I don't think I've come across any AI that has wowed me though.

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#178 Lonelynight
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Crysis.
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#179 Calvin079
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Black Ops Campaign on the DS has some of the best AI I've seen yet. You can wait for your two squad mates to do most of the work, and they'll save a guy or two for you, but they're perfectly capable of taking the brunt of the battle. The enmy too, will dive in and out of cover, and will have you dead in twosecondsif you aren't a good fast shot.