Artifical Intelligence King!

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]There is no part of me that can honestly understand how anyone could truthfully say Killzone 2. I have not played Killzone 3 so I can not say but I doubt it is much different then KZ2 or the demo which was not good at all also. I will give one example and this was not on easy difficultly either. When a Helghast was hiding behind cover he would almost always raise his head up a few inches above his hiding spot and turn it from side to side then all I would have to do is keep my gun planted there for a easy head shot since after turning his head side to side he would raise it up at the same exact spot. The enemy pretty much just let me know where to shot. rybe1025

Sounds like you never played on Elite. Or even veteran. The AI's behaviour is completely different with the increasing difficulty.

I'm not going to bother with trying converse with you if you are going to ignore the facts, which you have just done.And my sig has nothing to do anything. You can't take a joke? Because that's all it is.

I'm done.

There is no part of me that can honestly understand how anyone could truthfully say Killzone 2. I have not played Killzone 3 so I can not say but I doubt it is much different then KZ2 or the demo which was not good at all also. I will give one example and this was not on easy difficultly either. When a Helghast was hiding behind cover he would almost always raise his head up a few inches above his hiding spot and turn it from side to side then all I would have to do is keep my gun planted there for a easy head shot since after turning his head side to side he would raise it up at the same exact spot. The enemy pretty much just let me know where to shot. rybe1025

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Halo Reach.

One single Elite can be a problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOLm13VUQg

ocstew

Killzone 2 has far superior AI than Halo,i guess Halo fans would admit this by now,i was wrong also Resistance is a tad over Halo.tormentos

DEAR GOD.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

rumbalumba

oh, you. :lol:

Only Baker. Always gets shot down when making a biased PS3 post :P

F.E.A.R. (the first one)

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Halo Reach.

One single Elite can be a problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOLm13VUQg

tormentos

Damn man, im sure you could find a way to praise the games on your favourite system without bashing the ones on the oposite one! Claiming that Reach has a bad AI is as bad as claiming that the moon is blue.

All A.I. in all games fail to impress me at all. Its all very scripted and their actions are highly predictable and it never changes. FEAR 1 was pretty good though. Probably the only game worth noting its A.I. for. But then again FEAR2 and 3 sucked hard when it came to A.I. so perhaps it was only during its time that FEAr 1 was amazing.

*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

Damn man, im sure you could find a way to praise the games on your favourite system without bashing the ones on the oposite one! Claiming that Reach has a bad AI is as bad as claiming that the moon is blue.PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]Damn man, im sure you could find a way to praise the games on your favourite system without bashing the ones on the oposite one! Claiming that Reach has a bad AI is as bad as claiming that the moon is blue.tormentos

Resistance: Fall of Man had amazing AI. Certainly better than 2.

FEAR 1 for pure combat and STALKER: Call of Pripyat overall (despite the occasional bugs and crappy animations).

Halo series always had better AI then most every other FPS.

WilliamRLBaker

Oh c'mon. Halo AI was atrocious. Your NPCs can't even drive a vehicle or man a turrent properly. Very often, the NPC gets into the driver's seat and just chills out.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Halo series always had better AI then most every other FPS.

jhcho2

Oh c'mon. Halo AI was atrocious. Your NPCs can't even drive a vehicle or man a turrent properly. Very often, the NPC gets into the driver's seat and just chills out.

Halo AI is atrocious because it has a flaw?

FEAR's A.I. was ridiculously fun to play against.

I don't like the Killzone series much, but those games have excellent A.I. Halo series and Crysis/Warhead have great A.I also.

Mrs. Pac Man. The ghosts know the maze and they know it very well and how to get to pacman.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]There is no part of me that can honestly understand how anyone could truthfully say Killzone 2. I have not played Killzone 3 so I can not say but I doubt it is much different then KZ2 or the demo which was not good at all also. I will give one example and this was not on easy difficultly either. When a Helghast was hiding behind cover he would almost always raise his head up a few inches above his hiding spot and turn it from side to side then all I would have to do is keep my gun planted there for a easy head shot since after turning his head side to side he would raise it up at the same exact spot. The enemy pretty much just let me know where to shot. rybe1025

Sounds like you never played on Elite. Or even veteran. The AI's behaviour is completely different with the increasing difficulty.

If you haven't played it on Elite then you can't be speaking for the AI on Elite difficulty.... :|

There actually is a huge difference, on Elite you still take quite a few hits before dying, the AI is what is mostly different, then again you'd know that if you had actually played it on Elite, which you have not.

MGS4 AND KZ2 imo. MGS4 for it being a very impressive system and the insane amount of detail to the core mechanics to AI, and the bosses AI are on a whole other level. And KZ2 because of the different adjusments and maneuvers they do.

.. Why is it that when talking about AI, its always just about FPS.. And no other genre?sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

BigBoss154

...Why the hell did you play on easy? :?

The AI's behaviour changes with the different difficulty. On Elite, they'll work in teams to try and flank you, draw you from cover by throwing grenades and then ambush you, they'll play dead, shift/shimmy from cover to cover when they are taking heavy fire, and rush you when they hear that you are reloading.

To me the AI king is either STALKER SoC or FEAR 1, hard to judge between those, The human ai seems better in FEAR 1, but is competent in STALKER, the dogs, and other mutants tho... OOOh the horror, those are really good.

Honerbly mentions:

KZ2: It is almost up to FEAR level of ai in higher settings, altho the FEAR ai seems to take more advantage of the invioments, otherwise they seem pretty much the same "kind"

Halo: this is a bit of an odd one, because some enemies in the Halo games have great ai, and other enemy types I have a feeling they forgot to code ai for alltogether :S So it ranges from really good, to pretty bad.

Crysis: The ai in crysis is quite good alltogether, however with the destructibleenvioments and constant repathingthe enemies often do some really stupid things.

*laughs* Killzone 2 and 3 good AI? Killzone 2 alone enemies will just stare at you as you knife them. Its how I got through killzone2 on easy in about 5 hours using nothing but the knife when I had the choice and 5 hours on normal using the knife whenever I had a choice. I've yet to play killzone 3 but Guerilla hasn't ever been capable of making good AI.

WilliamRLBaker

No wonder you are lemming then. :D

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The AI kings are obviously Killzone 2/3 and FEAR as most ppl here said, but Army of Two: The 40th Day had surprisingly good AI too.

KZ 2&3 on elite. I could not even finish KZ2 the last battle is extremely hard. I had to take a break. oh and Men of War on Hard

Oblivion8)

Black and whiteSome-Mist

Now there's a good answer, such a wonderful game as well.

People in this thread only seem to play corridor shooters though :(

Playing a game on easy does not count!!

FEAR is the best I've played. They are relentless and never give you breathing room.

Uncharted 3 Beta has pretty damn good AI in the co-op modes. :o

From what I've played, KZ2 takes the cake. I haven't played 3 yet, though.

Wolfenstein 3D easily

Killzone 2 & 3, Resistance 1 & 2, and F.E.A.R. come to mind.

wow no-one on here has played the original crysis? all the games listed so far are corridoor shooters.. not so much great AI.. morelike scriptedSPBoss

I've played it, but the A.I. is definitely not one of its strong suits.