As gamers, here is why we can't afford to have Sony go out of business

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]They are the only ones who seem to care about games as their core focus anymore. They actually put the effort in to make a bunch of new IPs. MS only bothers to offer the bare minimum in terms of exclusives. If it's not a game that will turn into a huge, massively successful franchise, they aren't going to support it or keep making it.GamerwillzPS

Just like every other company in the world besides Sony. Just replace game with movie, music artist, tv show or whatever. Which is why Sony is headed torwards bankruptcy because they waste money on crap nobody wants.

So why did you purchase the PS3?

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Sony is the GM of Japan.

If they get to any serious trouble the gov will step in.

Right now they need to burn off the fat in the company, and focus on what works (like the movie&game divisions)

clyde46

Like meant for example.

Their enertainment devisions as a whole are doing very well. What hurt them was their electronic division.

They still often sell Sony products at price inflation comparable to Apple, except unlike Apple no one buys them.

MS need leave console market alone, its enough with 2 consoles.

Sony leaving would just leave a vacuum for some other company to fill. Then again, the traditional idea of a console (a big box you plug into your tv and stick games into) is archaic and will be eventually replaced with services instead of machines. So any company that replaces sony's role in the game market may approach it from a different angle.

Sony going out of business wouldnt bother me much at all. Seeing as this is probably the last gen I will get a console.

However, it would still be sad to see people lose jobs. And as you say, Sony provides competition for both MS as well as Nintendo.

MS need leave console market alone, its enough with 2 consoles.

Wiiyou

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

Just like every other company in the world besides Sony. Just replace game with movie, music artist, tv show or whatever. Which is why Sony is headed torwards bankruptcy because they waste money on crap nobody wants.

_Cadbury_

So why did you purchase the PS3?

Yea but just hope deep down inside he knows his words dont mean anything.

Great post and I agree with the whole thing.

What market structure do videogames fall in? Oligopoly? Monopolistic Competition?Arbiterisl33t69

[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"]What market structure do videogames fall in? Oligopoly? Monopolistic Competition?charizard1605

At at no point did quality suffer, or the customer get screwed no matter who ruled the market, or by how much.

This won't change if Sony goes out of business.

What market structure do videogames fall in? Oligopoly? Monopolistic Competition?Arbiterisl33t69

Duopoly (MS & Sony) with Nintendo having monopoly in it's "own" category imo (which both duopolies tried to counter).

The graphics card and CPU race on the PC is also duopolistic (AMD vs Nvidia and AMD vs Intel).

[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"]What market structure do videogames fall in? Oligopoly? Monopolistic Competition?charizard1605

With PS1 stomping the Sega Saturn and outselling the N64 by a 3-to-1 ratio?

Yeah right...

Unless you mean the adversting and games in which case I'd agree (altho neither Sega nor Nintendo could counter Sony's propaganda machine).

Also, the Sega Master System was competitive to NES (or "famiclone") in the Euro zone and South America.

And in the PS2 era Xbox established itself as a visible (in some ways superior) competitor.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

Just like every other company in the world besides Sony. Just replace game with movie, music artist, tv show or whatever. Which is why Sony is headed torwards bankruptcy because they waste money on crap nobody wants.

JohnnyCageMK

So why did you purchase the PS3?

I really didn't think so many of the games would be as mediocre as they are. You gotta admit that besides the Uncharted series and MGS4 the others are only hyped up because they are exclusive.

I have a similar opinion as yours towards 360 exclusives. They are not as excellent as you lems make them out to be.

If Sony is on the verge of collapse, then the entire Japanese electronics industry may be as well. I agree that (without SEGA), Sony going away would be a bad thing. But Playstation actually keeps Sony alive, despite Vita troubles. They're better off than Panasonic and SHARP.

the king of sheep is lame

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

So why did you purchase the PS3?

GamerwillzPS

I really didn't think so many of the games would be as mediocre as they are. You gotta admit that besides the Uncharted series and MGS4 the others are only hyped up because they are exclusive.

I have a similar opinion as yours towards 360 exclusives. They are not as excellent as you lems make them out to be.

Honestly video game companies come and go. It would suck for Sony but I wouldn't think it'd be the end of the world.

Then again I don't see either three going completely out of business.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

:lol: truth hurts huh?

charizard is actually right. Because the PS2 was so damn dominating it forced Microsoft to go all out if they wanted to compete. They got every single 3rd party franchise (besides a couple like Yakuza that only sell in Japan anyway), locked up a lot of 3rd party exclusives early this gen and ever since the 360 has been the main go to console this gen. That's why most games are lead developed for it, that's why it has the biggest and best selling exclusives, best online service. I mean if it wasn't for XBL just imagine how much worse PSN would currently be. It was as bad as Wii's online in 2006.

So if anything it would be bad if MS left the console race because then Sony would go back to the stone age like they did with PS3 to start the gen. MS is the company pushing the industry forward and has made things like online play a standard feature. Sony is not needed anymore and all they are doing is wasting Naughty Dog and MLB games which are the only things PS3 is good for.

JohnnyCageMK

Why do you think Sony is still needed? They don't really provide competition anymore. Mainly just an alternative for weaboos and people that can't afford a couple pennies a day for XBL. MS has full 3rd party support, top notch exclusives, and a great online service. That definitely wouldn't change without Sony.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

:lol: truth hurts huh?

charizard is actually right. Because the PS2 was so damn dominating it forced Microsoft to go all out if they wanted to compete. They got every single 3rd party franchise (besides a couple like Yakuza that only sell in Japan anyway), locked up a lot of 3rd party exclusives early this gen and ever since the 360 has been the main go to console this gen. That's why most games are lead developed for it, that's why it has the biggest and best selling exclusives, best online service. I mean if it wasn't for XBL just imagine how much worse PSN would currently be. It was as bad as Wii's online in 2006.

So if anything it would be bad if MS left the console race because then Sony would go back to the stone age like they did with PS3 to start the gen. MS is the company pushing the industry forward and has made things like online play a standard feature. Sony is not needed anymore and all they are doing is wasting Naughty Dog and MLB games which are the only things PS3 is good for.

GamerwillzPS

Are you serious? With all Sony's exceptional 1st party devs such as Naughty Dog? I really don't think so... :roll:

Microsoft going under would cause the least amount of damage.

Naughty dog? meh

true. sony helps move the industry forward. let's hope they don't fck themselves over next gen like they did with the ps3.

Agreed. Microsoft already acts like a tyrant sometimes, and if they had a monopoly on the Western developer console market it would be a nightmare.

Agreed. Microsoft already acts like a tyrant sometimes, and if they had a monopoly on the Western developer console market it would be a nightmare.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Agreed. Microsoft already acts like a tyrant sometimes, and if they had a monopoly on the Western developer console market it would be a nightmare.

rilpas

[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Agreed. Microsoft already acts like a tyrant sometimes, and if they had a monopoly on the Western developer console market it would be a nightmare.

Bigboi500

I hope Sony doesn't ever drop out. MS would glady overcharge for just about everything related to the consoles.

any gamer that wishes for game company go out of bussiness good or bad is not a gamer.

Nah, the fanboys on this site are playing. Everybody knows that Sony going down wouldn't do any good to the industry. Nobody's that stupid :P.

The main reason I am worried about Sony going out of business is because of the boom in online multiplayer this generation, PSN is free but if Sony goes out of business we will be stuck with Xbox Live which costs monthly payments, for someone like me who does not constantly play online, this would be a bad thing because I have months where I play lots of online multiplayer but then there are other months where I mainly play single player, a 'pay as you play' option would have been much better for Xbox Live.

The only good thing about Sony going out of business would be the end of the Metal Gear Solid series.

Seeing Sony's current state though, I can't see them not charging for online next gen. It would really bring them lots of money, and the competition is doing it anyways. They need to charge online more than MS does.

The main reason I am worried about Sony going out of business is because of the boom in online multiplayer this generation, PSN is free but if Sony goes out of business we will be stuck with Xbox Live which costs monthly payments, for someone like me who does not constantly play online, this would be a bad thing because I have months where I play lots of online multiplayer but then there are other months where I mainly play single player, a 'pay as you play' option would have been much better for Xbox Live.

The only good thing about Sony going out of business would be the end of the Metal Gear Solid series.

RageQuitter69

Yeah, I wouldn't mind if they made the online access cards more expensive, but instead gave you 1 years worth of actual online time, not 1 year whether you're online or not. That'd be much more complicated, but at the same time also more fair. Either way, you can always just buy them 3 months at a time.

I always consider Sony to be the balance between MS & Nintendo. Without that balance, everything will break free, Nintendo monopolize handheld & MS monopolize consoles (maybe not, but I can imagine MS & Nintendo target at entirely different audience, not healthy at all), unless another company with the same vision as Sony step in.

I don't want sony to leave because i know apple will join in

If Sony exits then someone else will just enter the market.

[QUOTE="RageQuitter69"]

The main reason I am worried about Sony going out of business is because of the boom in online multiplayer this generation, PSN is free but if Sony goes out of business we will be stuck with Xbox Live which costs monthly payments, for someone like me who does not constantly play online, this would be a bad thing because I have months where I play lots of online multiplayer but then there are other months where I mainly play single player, a 'pay as you play' option would have been much better for Xbox Live.

The only good thing about Sony going out of business would be the end of the Metal Gear Solid series.

XVision84

Yeah, I wouldn't mind if they made the online access cards more expensive, but instead gave you 1 years worth of actual online time, not 1 year whether you're online or not. That'd be much more complicated, but at the same time also more fair. Either way, you can always just buy them 3 months at a time.

Personally I think the industry will be much better without Sony.

JohnnyCageMK

^ Agreed.

I dont want Sony to go out of business. The PS3 is my most played console this gen.

I want Sony to get their sh1t straight with the Vita.

I want all Cows to die.

It looks to me like MS isn't competing with the Sony anymore but competing with Nintendo instead with the whole casual Kinect approuch. They're just keeping a vague watch over Sony and it's PS3 now but I doubt they consider them worthy competitors. They want some of that casual pie.

Personally I think the industry will be much better without Sony.

JohnnyCageMK

I dont want Sony to go out of business. The PS3 is my most played console this gen.

I want Sony to get their sh1t straight with the Vita.

I want all Cows to die.

RyanShazam

Make this man king of the earth.

Now.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I dont want Sony to go out of business. The PS3 is my most played console this gen.

I want Sony to get their sh1t straight with the Vita.

I want all Cows to die.

GamerZem

Make this man king of the earth.

Now.

[QUOTE="GamerZem"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I dont want Sony to go out of business. The PS3 is my most played console this gen.

I want Sony to get their sh1t straight with the Vita.

I want all Cows to die.

rjdofu

Make this man king of the earth.

Now.

Little Johnny? How is that?

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I dont want Sony to go out of business. The PS3 is my most played console this gen.

I want Sony to get their sh1t straight with the Vita.

I want all Cows to die.

GamerZem

Make this man king of the earth.

Now.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="GamerZem"]

Make this man king of the earth.

Now.

RyanShazam

Little Johnny? How is that?

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] But you just agreed with little Johnny :|.rjdofu

Little Johnny? How is that?